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2014-06-26 09:09:11 PM
But criticism of the zoo's actions has focused on the fact that the adult bears involved were hand-raised


Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.
 
2014-06-26 09:13:23 PM

Calmamity: But criticism of the zoo's actions has focused on the fact that the adult bears involved were hand-raised


Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.


Coincidentally, my dick was hand-raised.
 
2014-06-26 09:36:55 PM

Calmamity: Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.


Yep. Daddy bear had already mauled to death one of the cubs and was mistreating this one. And mamma bear was neglecting it. It was likely only a matter of time before this cub was brutally killed by its father.
 
2014-06-26 10:26:26 PM
Could it not have been raised by humans?
 
2014-06-26 10:29:24 PM

Calmamity: But criticism of the zoo's actions has focused on the fact that the adult bears involved were hand-raised

Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.


This. I'm sorry cute things don't always have nice endings, but I am completely okay with the zoo's decision.
 
2014-06-26 10:31:17 PM
Couldn't they have just, I dunno, shipped it to another zoo?
 
2014-06-26 10:31:38 PM
When will the rest of the world learn to be as sentimental an overly emotional as Americans?
Don't they have Disney movies?
 
2014-06-26 10:32:48 PM
They could just show all of the harm they have brought to the world with their neutrality in WW2, and the criminal organizations their banks have supported in the name of greed.
 
2014-06-26 10:33:04 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Calmamity: Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.

Yep. Daddy bear had already mauled to death one of the cubs and was mistreating this one. And mamma bear was neglecting it. It was likely only a matter of time before this cub was brutally killed by its father.


Only a matter of time... So they get out in front of it and make 100% sure he's killed.
 
2014-06-26 10:35:04 PM
Wow, what a ridiculous reason. did they think the cub would grow up to have PTSD and shoot up a school? I'm suprised they didn't kill off some panthers and a mountain goat "just to be sure".
 
2014-06-26 10:42:31 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Calmamity: Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.

Yep. Daddy bear had already mauled to death one of the cubs and was mistreating this one. And mamma bear was neglecting it. It was likely only a matter of time before this cub was brutally killed by its father.


Boar bears will often kill a sows cubs to cause her to become in heat.
 
2014-06-26 10:44:23 PM

Dwindle: When will the rest of the world learn to be as sentimental an overly emotional as Americans?


I'm not sure Americans are necessarily overly emotional.  We have had a fair number of mass shootings lately and don't seem to be to broken up about it.  I'm not sure which country would qualify as "overly emotional" but you could give an honorable mention to North Koreans (even if they were acting) for bawling their eyes out of Kim Jong Ill's death.

/not sure how South Korea rates with all those K-dramas I keep hearing about.
 
2014-06-26 10:47:51 PM
Not this shiat again. How about we all agree to let professionals do their thing, and keep the layman mob opinions to a minimum?
 
2014-06-26 11:00:26 PM
The Dahlholzli Zoo in the Swiss city of Bern said it decided to put down the bear cub after its father, named Misha, mauled its sibling to death and threatened to do the same to Cub 4.
Putting a bear cub/s with their father is the worst thing ever. Father bears fark, and leave it up to the mother to care for it. Did they think it was cute to show a human like bear family?
 
2014-06-26 11:04:36 PM

That Guy Jeff: Not this shiat again. How about we all agree to let professionals do their thing, and keep the layman mob opinions to a minimum?


Have you ever seen a bear family with the father hanging around? This shiat isn't a damn fairy tale.
 
2014-06-26 11:06:51 PM
Checks... yep, Bern. They're all nuts there.
 
2014-06-26 11:07:56 PM

That Guy Jeff: Not this shiat again. How about we all agree to let professionals do their thing, and keep the layman mob opinions to a minimum?


Yes those men in the nice uniforms running that camp are professionals. We must never question them.
 
2014-06-26 11:11:17 PM
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2014-06-26 11:11:26 PM
There's another bear cub, wild one, Exploring NE Cincinnati OH for past few days.  Neither parent has ever been seen; they likely deeper in urban/suburban woods attempting to breed, 'cuz 'tis the season.
 
2014-06-26 11:14:58 PM

That Guy Jeff: Not this shiat again. How about we all agree to let professionals do their thing, and keep the layman mob opinions to a minimum?


So you're saying we should remain neutral?
 
2014-06-26 11:15:49 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Calmamity: Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.

Yep. Daddy bear had already mauled to death one of the cubs and was mistreating this one. And mamma bear was neglecting it. It was likely only a matter of time before this cub was brutally killed by its father.


And, as long as zoological gardens are breeding (by design or by mistake) common species, they will also have to take on some responsibility that Mother Nature would otherwise have. And yeah, that does mean population control.

Sometimes, perpetuating a species artificially also means controlling that same population artificially. It's, uh, not always pretty.

/"Nature, red in tooth and claw," etc...
 
2014-06-26 11:18:35 PM

Active introvert: Wow, what a ridiculous reason. did they think the cub would grow up to have PTSD and shoot up a school? I'm suprised they didn't kill off some panthers and a mountain goat "just to be sure".


This isnt los angeles, they have standards.
 
2014-06-26 11:34:51 PM

Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Bathia_Mapes: Calmamity: Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.

Yep. Daddy bear had already mauled to death one of the cubs and was mistreating this one. And mamma bear was neglecting it. It was likely only a matter of time before this cub was brutally killed by its father.

Boar bears will often kill a sows cubs to cause her to become in heat.


Lots of animals do that.  Cats for instance.  Not just lions, domestic cats do that.  Problem is very few people know how domestic cats operate when ferral.
But given that probably any person who has taken ,oh I don't know...some kind of class on animals, knows that, why would they keep the male in the same pen as the female and cubs?  That seems ridiculously stupid.
 
2014-06-26 11:41:52 PM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: That Guy Jeff: Not this shiat again. How about we all agree to let professionals do their thing, and keep the layman mob opinions to a minimum?

So you're saying we should remain neutral?


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2014-06-26 11:52:15 PM
Sponsored by Steiff?
 
2014-06-26 11:56:59 PM

brandent: Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Bathia_Mapes: Calmamity: Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.

Yep. Daddy bear had already mauled to death one of the cubs and was mistreating this one. And mamma bear was neglecting it. It was likely only a matter of time before this cub was brutally killed by its father.

Boar bears will often kill a sows cubs to cause her to become in heat.

Lots of animals do that.  Cats for instance.  Not just lions, domestic cats do that.  Problem is very few people know how domestic cats operate when ferral.
But given that probably any person who has taken ,oh I don't know...some kind of class on animals, knows that, why would they keep the male in the same pen as the female and cubs?  That seems ridiculously stupid.


Because the public that funds the zoo wants to see a Happy Bear Family, with a Daddy Bear and a Mommy Bear and a Baby Bear, and so the zoo WILL have a Happy Bear Family even if it has to leave a pile of Baby Bear corpses tall enough to blot out the sun.
 
2014-06-26 11:57:15 PM
Well, stuffing the bear is better than feeding it to the kids.
 
2014-06-27 12:21:19 AM

Mock26: Well, stuffing the bear is better than feeding it to the kids.


I can't bear the thought.
 
2014-06-27 12:22:32 AM

Tatterdemalian: brandent: Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Bathia_Mapes: Calmamity: Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.

Yep. Daddy bear had already mauled to death one of the cubs and was mistreating this one. And mamma bear was neglecting it. It was likely only a matter of time before this cub was brutally killed by its father.

Boar bears will often kill a sows cubs to cause her to become in heat.

Lots of animals do that.  Cats for instance.  Not just lions, domestic cats do that.  Problem is very few people know how domestic cats operate when ferral.
But given that probably any person who has taken ,oh I don't know...some kind of class on animals, knows that, why would they keep the male in the same pen as the female and cubs?  That seems ridiculously stupid.

Because the public that funds the zoo wants to see a Happy Bear Family, with a Daddy Bear and a Mommy Bear and a Baby Bear, and so the zoo WILL have a Happy Bear Family even if it has to leave a pile of Baby Bear corpses tall enough to blot out the sun.


Then the bears can fark in the shade.
 
2014-06-27 12:40:46 AM

Mock26: Well, stuffing the bear is better than feeding it to the kids.


Bear is fine meal. Just remember to cook it thru. You will also need to wear gloves when caping it also.
 
2014-06-27 12:45:00 AM
That's what you get when you import Russian bears.  The only wild bear in Switzerland, known as "M25", is considered a nuisance whenever it crosses back into the country from Austria, even though it did help to solve a murder.
 
2014-06-27 12:46:34 AM
There was a time this wouldn't have made news.  Then the vacuous vacuums of empty news cycles attacked us and we responded in the way we best knew how.  I'm still waiting for my petition for a "Zoo News" tab at CNN to be acknowledged.  It's only a matter of time.
 
2014-06-27 01:06:37 AM

flucto: Yes those men in the nice uniforms running that camp are professionals. We must never question them.


Whatever you're on, it sounds hilarious. If you ever feel like sharing...

Subby is a drama king. Zoo did the right thing. As did the other zoo mentioned.

Really, if you don't get how raising animals in unnatural habitats works, you should shove your head in a bucket of effluent before imagining you have an opinion about how said habitats should be managed.
 
2014-06-27 01:12:38 AM

o_blah: Couldn't they have just, I dunno, shipped it to another zoo?


Do you have any idea what UPS charges to ship a bear?
 
2014-06-27 01:20:15 AM

jtown: o_blah: Couldn't they have just, I dunno, shipped it to another zoo?

Do you have any idea what UPS charges to ship a bear?


Especially if they have to haul it a fur piece.
 
2014-06-27 01:31:41 AM
So you see, children, today you are young, holding hands, thinking of the future - tomorrow you are clutching the cadaver of your lover.

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2014-06-27 07:01:22 AM

laulaja: There's another bear cub, wild one, Exploring NE Cincinnati OH for past few days.  Neither parent has ever been seen; they likely deeper in urban/suburban woods attempting to breed, 'cuz 'tis the season.


The news this morning said he is wandering around Montgomery now. I hope he can sneak off into the woods and disappear. I have a really bad feeling that someone is going to shoot him because bear.
 
2014-06-27 07:30:37 AM

Calmamity: But criticism of the zoo's actions has focused on the fact that the adult bears involved were hand-raised


Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.


It's the wildlife version of home schooling.

mauled its sibling to death and threatened to do the same to Cub 4.

Was he like "Good night, cub 4. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."
 
2014-06-27 07:44:51 AM
in unrelated news, the Zoo's restaurant is now carrying cubby burgers.
 
2014-06-27 08:20:12 AM

bittermang: Bathia_Mapes: Calmamity: Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.

Yep. Daddy bear had already mauled to death one of the cubs and was mistreating this one. And mamma bear was neglecting it. It was likely only a matter of time before this cub was brutally killed by its father.

Only a matter of time... So they get out in front of it and make 100% sure he's killed.


This.  Why couldn't have a rescue raised it until it was old enough to be released into the wild?  Or even if a rescue was not available, just let it go.  It'd had about 50/50 odds.

/You know, since you were going to kill it anyway a-holes.
 
2014-06-27 08:22:40 AM

Meisaims: Calmamity: But criticism of the zoo's actions has focused on the fact that the adult bears involved were hand-raised

Yeah, and look what dicks they turned out to be.

This. I'm sorry cute things don't always have nice endings, but I am completely okay with the zoo's decision.


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2014-06-27 08:29:10 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: The Dahlholzli Zoo in the Swiss city of Bern said it decided to put down the bear cub after its father, named Misha, mauled its sibling to death and threatened to do the same to Cub 4.
Putting a bear cub/s with their father is the worst thing ever. Father bears fark, and leave it up to the mother to care for it. Did they think it was cute to show a human like bear family?


Yes.  Hello, how about moving the father to another holding area until the cubs are able to hold their own?  Or would that make too much sense?
 
2014-06-27 08:32:40 AM

Soulcatcher: Cincin


I hope he gets down into Camp Dennison or so where there is plenty of water, food, and green space.
 
2014-06-27 09:13:26 AM
It wasn't named Marcus was it?
 
2014-06-27 09:16:54 AM

Cold_Sassy: drjekel_mrhyde: The Dahlholzli Zoo in the Swiss city of Bern said it decided to put down the bear cub after its father, named Misha, mauled its sibling to death and threatened to do the same to Cub 4.
Putting a bear cub/s with their father is the worst thing ever. Father bears fark, and leave it up to the mother to care for it. Did they think it was cute to show a human like bear family?

Yes.  Hello, how about moving the father to another holding area until the cubs are able to hold their own?  Or would that make too much sense?


Again, it would lead to protests and demands that the zoo be shut down, because All Babies Need Their Daddies. In fact, taking the more brutal path lads to the subtle chilling of dissent that keeps the protests quieter than they otherwise would be. It's not like seeking revenge against the zoo will bring the baby bear back to life, after all.

/see what I did there?
//bet you didn't even notice that NOT seeking revenge against the zoo won't bring the baby bear back to life, either
///but it will encourage more zoos to start doing the same to their rejected animal babies
 
2014-06-27 09:39:22 AM
Maybe it's different for this particular subspecies, but the father should not have been in the same enclosure as the mother and cubs. My education in zoology comes entirely from PBS, but from what I know, in the wild mother bears do everything they can to keep adult males away from their cubs. Even their fathers.

Bears really don't go for the whole 2.5 kids, a dog and a white picket fence thing.
 
2014-06-27 11:04:53 AM
Well, as usual, the more details you know...

These bears were hand-raised and had always been kept together. They were actually a gift from russian president Medvedev, so the city of Bern couldnt really say "err, no thanks, rather not". The city already has a brown bear family living happily with cubs in a cute park in the old part of the town, there the bear dad was separated while the cubs were cubs. They tried it with these parents too, but it seemed to stress the parents too much to be apart.

So, they crossed their fingers, let them all be together and it didnt go well. Dad killed one and started harassing the second, while mum looked the other way. So "Nr 4" was put down and the parents neutered.

Why do they allow animals in captivity to breed? It keeps them busy in a more or less natural way. Not much else to do for an animal in a zoo.
 
2014-06-27 12:55:56 PM
so what we are saying here is that what Bern does with their bears is questionable? What, noooooo
 
2014-06-27 02:23:34 PM
RIP Chicago Cubs.

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Sorry it was the Swiss that finally had to put an end to you.
 
2014-06-27 02:38:42 PM

lohphat: It wasn't named Marcus was it?


His name was Cub Paulson
 
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