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(Talking Points Memo)   Chris McDaniels is shaping up to be shoo-in for the 2014 election cycle's Sen. Bluto Blutarsky Memorial "What? Did you say 'over'?" Award for Poor Sportsmanship   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
    More: Amusing, McDaniel, legal theory, open primary, Thad Cochran, R-MS  
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2707 clicks; posted to Politics » on 26 Jun 2014 at 7:36 PM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-06-26 05:18:42 PM  
That's PRESIDENT Blutarsky.
 
2014-06-26 05:34:33 PM  
Oh Please Fark'in Proceed Chris...
 
2014-06-26 05:38:06 PM  
he is out of his damn mind!
 
2014-06-26 05:59:00 PM  
Is there really a law that says such a thing? That would be a very stupid law.
 
2014-06-26 06:01:45 PM  

ManateeGag: he is out of his damn mind!


Forget it, he's rolling.
 
2014-06-26 06:28:31 PM  

Nabb1: Is there really a law that says such a thing? That would be a very stupid law.


There's a law that's been ruled as unenforceable, so... kind of?
 
2014-06-26 06:52:42 PM  
"We likewise know that we have a statute, a law in our state

Love how he had to explain what a statute is, must have forgot his audience for a second there.
 
2014-06-26 07:08:38 PM  
I just wanted to congratulate you for not writing "shoe-in."
 
2014-06-26 07:33:43 PM  
"Naturally sometimes it's difficult to contest an election, obviously, but we do know that 35,000 Democrats crossed over," McDaniel said. "And we know many of those Democrats did vote in the Democratic primary just three weeks ago which makes it illegal."

That's impressive, given that only 85,000 people voted in the Democratic primary. Getting 40% of them to turn up for the other party's primary would be pretty impressive.

What I really like about this story is how democratic operatives are giving him free legal advice on how to fight this in court to drag it on as long as possible.
 
2014-06-26 07:41:21 PM  

nmrsnr: What I really like about this story is how democratic operatives are giving him free legal advice on how to fight this in court to drag it on as long as possible.


I have a feeling that the Democratic Party in MS is doing a lot of giggling right now while egging this guy on.
 
2014-06-26 07:42:33 PM  
Common misconception.

I was taught a similar thing in High School because of a bumbling teacher answering a question about the differences between primaries and the General, although he said that in both the primaries (closed in my birth state) and the general you could only vote for a Democrat if you are a Democrat and a Republican if you are a Republican.

I got that misconception corrected in college, thankfully.
 
2014-06-26 07:42:52 PM  
This situation requires a really futile and senseless gesture on somebody's part.  And McDaniel's just the guy to do it.
 
2014-06-26 07:43:42 PM  
And now that I read the article, I see he references a law that was declared "unenforceable".
 
2014-06-26 07:44:01 PM  
10 million democrats descended on capitol hill and voted out chris mcdaniels
 
2014-06-26 07:44:12 PM  
Those darn blacks are at it again!
 
2014-06-26 07:46:06 PM  
Nothing like seeing a cocksure, mouthy twit get his comeuppance. He just cannot stand that he got his ass whipped by a bunch of poor black Democrats.

Lovin' it!
 
2014-06-26 07:48:00 PM  

Somacandra: nmrsnr: What I really like about this story is how democratic operatives are giving him free legal advice on how to fight this in court to drag it on as long as possible.

I have a feeling that the Democratic Party in MS is doing a lot of giggling right now while egging this guy on.


MS GOP'er: Go and tell your master that we have been charged by God with a sacred quest. If he will give us food and shelter for the night, he can join us in our quest for the Holy Grail.
MS Democrat:worker : Well, I'll ask him, but I don't think he'll be very keen. Uh, he's already got one, you see.
MS GOP'er: What?
MS GOP flunkie: He says they've already got one!
MS GOP'er: Are you sure he's got one?
MS Democrat worker: Oh, yes. It's very nice-a. (I told him we already got one.)
 
2014-06-26 07:48:40 PM  

a particular individual: I just wanted to congratulate you for not writing "shoe-in."


Well, in this doggy-dog world, for all intensive purposes, he might as well have.

Anyone feel like an eggcorn?
 
2014-06-26 07:49:12 PM  
He doesn't like blacks even when they vote GOP.
 
2014-06-26 07:51:53 PM  
I was driving through southeast Ohio with no reception of anything but Mark Levin last night and heard all this

This outrage is setting up ole' Chris for a potus 16 run in the world of conservative heroes, I betcha
 
2014-06-26 07:56:09 PM  
"Naturally sometimes it's difficult to contest an election, obviously, but we do know that 35,000 Democrats crossed over," McDaniel said. "And we know many of those Democrats did vote in the Democratic primary just three weeks ago which makes it illegal."


Hey, he is a right winger. He doesn't need things like "evidence" to prove his allegations are right.
 
2014-06-26 07:58:27 PM  
Sore Loerman
 
2014-06-26 07:58:57 PM  

Nabb1: Is there really a law that says such a thing? That would be a very stupid law.


Yes for open primaries it's the law (at least for the state). But that doesn't mean the allegations he is making are true.

Like they said here:

Voters in Mississippi don't register by party and the state has open primaries. Voters are only barred from voting in one party's primary and then voting in another party's runoff, but voters who didn't vote in the initial primary are not barred from voting in a runoff election.

This on the other hand I am pretty sure is made up bullshiat:

"We likewise know that we have a statute, a law in our state that says you cannot participate in a primary unless you intend to support that candidate," McDaniel said. "And we know good and well that these 35,000 democrats have no intention to do that. They'll be voting for [Democratic nominee] Travis Childers in November. We know that. They know that. And so that makes their actions illegal."
 
2014-06-26 07:59:05 PM  
Chris McDaniel is just another liberal distraction from Benghazi.
 
2014-06-26 07:59:16 PM  

Truffle Kerfuffle: Sore Loerman


Er, Sore LoSerman

/damn keyboard
 
2014-06-26 08:00:06 PM  

John the Magnificent: a particular individual: I just wanted to congratulate you for not writing "shoe-in."

Well, in this doggy-dog world, for all intensive purposes, he might as well have of.


FTFY
 
2014-06-26 08:01:24 PM  
If 35,000 individuals who voted in the Democratic primary race also voted in the subsequent Republican primary runoff, then their votes were cast illegally and state Senator McDaniel's argument that the election should be invalidated is reasonable.

I am therefore certain that Senator McDaniel or a member of his legal counsel will be able to readily supply documentation of such a quantity of unlawful votes. I will await the followup report of that documentation being released to the public.
 
2014-06-26 08:02:25 PM  

2wolves: He doesn't like blacks even when they vote GOP.


As it was put so well in the previous thread:

"Republicans hate the idea of black people voting so much that they'll even complain when they vote for republicans."

Props to James! for that one.
 
2014-06-26 08:05:55 PM  
I bet if McDaniel had won with some Dem votes this would not even be an issue for him. He'd be praising the "will of the people."
 
2014-06-26 08:06:08 PM  
Chris McDaniels stars in "D'Jagoff Unchained".
 
2014-06-26 08:08:23 PM  
But wait, there's more! McDaniels has only begun to fight!
 
2014-06-26 08:20:01 PM  

DrBenway: But wait, there's more! McDaniels has only begun to fight!


Not THIS is the tea party infighting I was hoping to see.
 
2014-06-26 08:27:10 PM  
Operation Chaos?
 
2014-06-26 08:27:18 PM  
This is bad news for me. I registered as a Republican so I could vote for the worst candidate in the primaries, to make it easier for the Democrats: i.e., in 2008 I voted for Huckabee. So in theory, since Huckabee wasn't the nominee, I should have been allowed to vote in the general election? I guess I could have written him in.

In 2012, I did vote for Romney. In fact, I voted for him several times. I wrote him in for the Register of Probate, the Register of Deeds, and Clerk of the Court. I would have gladly given him my vote for Dog Warden or Town Clerk. The man deserve some sort of consolation prize.
 
2014-06-26 08:44:52 PM  
"And we know many of those Democrats did vote in the Democratic primary just three weeks ago which makes it illegal."

No, you don't know that. You might suspect it but you have no way of proving it.
 
2014-06-26 08:45:19 PM  
Thisisanoutragejpg
 
2014-06-26 08:49:46 PM  

Corvus: DrBenway: But wait, there's more! McDaniels has only begun to fight!

Not THIS is the tea party infighting I was hoping to see.


And you'll notice that they still managed to find a way to blame it on the Democrats.
 
2014-06-26 08:52:55 PM  
How about going for the Budd Dwyer award for entertaining press conferences.
 
2014-06-26 09:00:38 PM  

GameSprocket: How about going for the Budd Dwyer award for entertaining press conferences.


Well, that's certainly a Second Amendment Solution.
 
2014-06-26 09:09:59 PM  
Christ, what a pussy.
 
2014-06-26 09:10:13 PM  
That's okay. McDaniel's local draft board has been notified that he is now all eligible for military service.
 
2014-06-26 09:17:37 PM  

Dimensio: If 35,000 individuals who voted in the Democratic primary race also voted in the subsequent Republican primary runoff, then their votes were cast illegally and state Senator McDaniel's argument that the election should be invalidated is reasonable.



I remember reading on election night that estimates were about 5000 Democratic voters, not even enough to turn the election. Now, if 35K democratic voters did really vote only 20% of such voters would need to be legitimate and he'd still lose.

However, I think that (a) it is widely improbable that 35K Democratic votes were cast and (b) that there were not at least 6-7K of them that were legitimate.
 
2014-06-26 09:22:40 PM  
What a farking tittybaby.
 
2014-06-26 09:31:20 PM  

worlddan: Dimensio: If 35,000 individuals who voted in the Democratic primary race also voted in the subsequent Republican primary runoff, then their votes were cast illegally and state Senator McDaniel's argument that the election should be invalidated is reasonable.


I remember reading on election night that estimates were about 5000 Democratic voters, not even enough to turn the election. Now, if 35K democratic voters did really vote only 20% of such voters would need to be legitimate and he'd still lose.

However, I think that (a) it is widely improbable that 35K Democratic votes were cast and (b) that there were not at least 6-7K of them that were legitimate.


I think your math is off.  The margin of victory was just under 7,000, so 80% of that 35,000 would need to be legit, assuming all of them voted for Cochran.
 
2014-06-26 09:33:24 PM  
Given that most people have to vote at the same precincts as the primaries, isn't it just a matter of election officials checking the voting rolls as people sign in to say "You already voted in the primary" and barring them from the runoff vote?  That's what election officials are supposed to do as their job, right?
 
2014-06-26 09:36:46 PM  
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2014-06-26 09:37:45 PM  

mrmopar5287: Given that most people have to vote at the same precincts as the primaries, isn't it just a matter of election officials checking the voting rolls as people sign in to say "You already voted in the primary" and barring them from the runoff vote?  That's what election officials are supposed to do as their job, right?


What the hell are you talking about?
 
2014-06-26 09:54:11 PM  

Dimensio: I am therefore certain that Senator McDaniel or a member of his legal counsel will be able to readily supply documentation of such a quantity of unlawful votes. I will await the followup report of that documentation being released to the public.


That's why he is demanding the poll books right now. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/chris-mcdaniel-campaign-joe-nosef-cir c uit-clerks-runoff-thad-cochran

However he doesn't seem to realize that each county keeps it own poll books (lists of who voted)
 
2014-06-26 09:55:01 PM  

John the Magnificent: a particular individual: I just wanted to congratulate you for not writing "shoe-in."

Well, in this doggy-dog world, for all intensive purposes, he might as well have of.

Anyone feel like an eggcorn?


Fixt
 
2014-06-26 09:55:16 PM  

cretinbob: What the hell are you talking about?


Where I live you are assigned a voting precinct that is a school cafeteria, church basement, firehouse garage, etc.  Just a polling place where people go to vote, and mine is the basement of the Lutheran Church.  When you show up you have to state your name and address and the clerk pulls your registration card that has your signature on it.  You sign, signatures are compared, and then you are given a party ballot that you request (partisan primaries) and that is marked on your card that then goes into a roster of cards of all the people that voted.  That way the election commission has a roster of people who voted, what party they declared in the primary, and that's it.  There can also be poll watchers from any candidate or party who get to sit at tables and check your name off their own list of registered voters that has party affiliations from prior elections on it, so that way they can take the lists throughout the day and send door-to-door campaigners to remind people to vote if they're not crossed off the list.  But those poll watchers obviously aren't allowed to campaign inside the polling places or within 100 feet of the entrance.

If Mississippi prohibits Democrats who voted in the Democrat primary from crossing over to the Republican run-off election all they would have to do is get that catalog of voters who voted Democrat in the primary and check voters as they came to the Republican run-off election.  State your name and address, check the cards of Democrats that already voted, and "You can't vote, please leave" for those that are trying to double dip, so to speak.

That is the job of election officials: to prevent voter fraud.  In this case voter fraud would be defined as voters who already voted Democrat in the primary to come back and vote in the Republican run-off.
 
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