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(Newser)   Evil boss fails to give woman schedule that would allow her avoid all traffic, gets sued   (newser.com) divider line 31
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2014-06-26 07:55:02 PM  
3 votes:
I'm amazed at how many of you don't understand why dude's sister has a 9 hour schedule. Most states have employment laws on the books that *require* a 30 minute lunch and 2 15 minute breaks. Every employer I have ever had has forced me to work a 9 hour day so that they can get 8 hours of actual work out of you. This is VERY common.
2014-06-26 06:54:58 PM  
3 votes:

Jeng: I'll admit I don't know the laws on this type of thing, but I think the boss should have worked a bit to make her firing not over a medical issue.


They did. She got a medical leave. When she came back, her schedule was changed to allow her to avoid rush hour. Her duties were also changed, and she objected to that. She was later fired.

You know who else gets stressed out and anxious during the typical New Jersey commute?

Everyone.
2014-06-26 06:43:39 PM  
3 votes:

Watubi: But, since it was a mental health issue, I'm guessing most here would just tell her "get over it" and have zero sympathy for her.


And rightly so. You can't just decide to get over cancer. You can, however, sack up and stop being such a whiny wussbag about traffic.
2014-06-26 06:34:01 PM  
3 votes:
I'll admit I don't know the laws on this type of thing, but I think the boss should have worked a bit to make her firing not over a medical issue.

Firing people over medical issues tends to generate a nice settlement for the person fired.
2014-06-26 07:15:43 PM  
2 votes:

Combustion: Watubi: Well, if she had cancer, Farkers would be on her side.  But, since it was a mental health issue, I'm guessing most here would just tell her "get over it" and have zero sympathy for her.  If the company has other employees working this alternate schedule at her former pay rate, she has a valid argument.

You sound mentally unhealthy...


Mental health accommodations are tough to get.

However, this woman apparently didn't have any actual issues, she just suddenly and for no reason became "anxious" driving in traffic. The manager tried to accommodate her, but it didn't work.

Accommodations don't have to be exactly what the employee wants, they have to be "reasonable" and if they're too burdensome to the employer, they are not required. If there's just no way to allow this woman to work on a schedule where she won't have to drive in traffic, then they can in fact fire her.
2014-06-26 07:07:52 PM  
2 votes:

ongbok: Sounds like my little sister. Her boss is an "evil biatch", her words, because she won't let her off an hour early everyday so she can pick up her son from daycare before 6. Her boss tried to compromise and have her come in at 7 instead of 8 so she could get off at 4, but that was unacceptable to my little sister. I asked her why does she think she can skip out everyday an hour early and not make up that time, and with a straight face she said that they should have to make an exception for her because she is a single mother.


Ahh, women climbing onto the cross of motherhood. Single moms love to play that card too, as if that makes them more special than all the other parents on the planet.
2014-06-26 06:54:15 PM  
2 votes:
You know what? Fark this planet. We can't go extinct soon enough.
2014-06-26 06:47:38 PM  
2 votes:
While the demoting her part is extremely questionable, I'm sorta leaning towards the employer side here. In a way I can empathize with the employer on this one. Where I work, we have this lady in our department who we had to accommodate her on the work schedule because of her young daughter. She said she can't work weekends because she can never find a babysitter, and we're kind of out in the country, so that's a partially believable story. But, lady never has to work weekends, and has what most people call a schedule to kill for, only works four days a week and is off by 5PM at the latest and still gets 40 hours.

She cries and moans that she never gets promoted when the opportunity comes up, but refuses to accept or understand that she'll never be made a supervisor since she refuses to work weekends. She even threatens to quit every single time that it's brought up that she might have to work weekends some day.
2014-06-26 06:43:15 PM  
2 votes:
She should work my schedule 6pm-2:30am.
2014-06-26 06:42:36 PM  
2 votes:
Sounds like my little sister. Her boss is an "evil biatch", her words, because she won't let her off an hour early everyday so she can pick up her son from daycare before 6. Her boss tried to compromise and have her come in at 7 instead of 8 so she could get off at 4, but that was unacceptable to my little sister. I asked her why does she think she can skip out everyday an hour early and not make up that time, and with a straight face she said that they should have to make an exception for her because she is a single mother.
2014-06-26 06:35:56 PM  
2 votes:
Phhhhsst!! MY job makes me wear pants.
2014-06-26 03:32:57 PM  
2 votes:
Hey, here's the deal: You show up at work whenever you feel like it and we'll pay you whatever we feel like, ok?
2014-06-27 02:26:31 AM  
1 votes:

Fafai: inglixthemad: Ahh, women climbing onto the cross of motherhood.

I hate this. I see so many stay at home Moms on social media who get their whole identity from motherhood while demanding recognition and acknowledgement from everyone for their choices. And sympathy. They want us to feel bad for them. They don't even see how lucky they are. Staying at home with a toddler is a privilege. I had the chance to do it for 6 months with my son and it was an incredibly rewarding experience to see him grow and bond with him. it was one of the high points of my life thus far. Some people work so much they miss out on seeing their kids grow up. Anyone who complains about staying at home with a child is incredibly ungrateful and no doubt a terrible parent. I feel bad for their kids. These people should be ridiculed to the fullest extent.


What we are basically seeing is a type of neo-Victorianism, where the role of Mother has been elevated to a holy and select office. Of course, in Victorian times, middle-class and upper-class woman could afford to be pedestel mommie - they had live-in nurses or nannies. Only the poor, common drudges had to actually raise their kids themselves.
2014-06-26 09:05:36 PM  
1 votes:

Watubi: Well, if she had cancer, Farkers would be on her side.  But, since it was a mental health issue, I'm guessing most here would just tell her "get over it" and have zero sympathy for her.  If the company has other employees working this alternate schedule at her former pay rate, she has a valid argument.


Because doctors can prove cancer and pretty much have to take her word for it on her mental health issues.

So, yeah, no sympathy from me either.

/has mental health issues
/maybe
2014-06-26 08:13:37 PM  
1 votes:

Jeng: I'll admit I don't know the laws on this type of thing, but I think the boss should have worked a bit to make her firing not over a medical issue.

Firing people over medical issues tends to generate a nice settlement for the person fired.


I was all against this as the boss sets the hours and there is no law stopping that as long as you are paid overtime, etc. Then I read the article and saw she was considered disabled and not accommodated, did a doctor provide evidence for her to give her employer? If she did not then the employer is in the right, if she did then that's where they messed up. Just telling you boss you get anxiety driving is not enough.

Though we get very little information and do not know the work history so its all conjecture.

/Not a lawyer but I have dealt with employment law and disability regulations
2014-06-26 08:11:44 PM  
1 votes:
If traffic causes her so much anxiety that it becomes a medical issue her license needs to be revoked, shes too dangerous to be on the road.

There are also several ways to solve this problem:

Use public transportation
Car pool with a coworker who lives close
take an alternate route and avoid the highway
have someone drive her to work
sue

My father always told me, never make your problems your bosses problems, that s how you get promoted to customer.
2014-06-26 07:40:09 PM  
1 votes:

devildog123: umad: You know what? Fark this planet. We can't go extinct soon enough.

I would recommend you go first.  Pills are pretty painless I hear, but if you want quick, you can't beat a pistol in your mouth.  Oh wait, let me guess. you think YOU'RE good and special enough to live your life out, but people you dislike don't deserve that opportunity.  Got it.


If I ever decide to off myself you will know about it. I will take every one of you worthless farkers with me that I can.
2014-06-26 07:34:40 PM  
1 votes:

Watubi: Well, if she had cancer, Farkers would be on her side.  But, since it was a mental health issue, I'm guessing most here would just tell her "get over it" and have zero sympathy for her.  If the company has other employees working this alternate schedule at her former pay rate, she has a valid argument.


Her particular mental health issue is something everyone who works will suffer from. Since it'd be stupid to give everyone in society special treatment for it, it then just seems like we should treat it as something you're just required to do if you're going to work, especially when you decided to live so far away from home that it takes you ages to commute.
2014-06-26 07:31:42 PM  
1 votes:

umad: You know what? Fark this planet. We can't go extinct soon enough.


I would recommend you go first.  Pills are pretty painless I hear, but if you want quick, you can't beat a pistol in your mouth.  Oh wait, let me guess. you think YOU'RE good and special enough to live your life out, but people you dislike don't deserve that opportunity.  Got it.
2014-06-26 07:30:24 PM  
1 votes:

inglixthemad: Ahh, women climbing onto the cross of motherhood.


I hate this. I see so many stay at home Moms on social media who get their whole identity from motherhood while demanding recognition and acknowledgement from everyone for their choices. And sympathy. They want us to feel bad for them. They don't even see how lucky they are. Staying at home with a toddler is a privilege. I had the chance to do it for 6 months with my son and it was an incredibly rewarding experience to see him grow and bond with him. it was one of the high points of my life thus far. Some people work so much they miss out on seeing their kids grow up. Anyone who complains about staying at home with a child is incredibly ungrateful and no doubt a terrible parent. I feel bad for their kids. These people should be ridiculed to the fullest extent.
2014-06-26 07:14:34 PM  
1 votes:

Sergeant Grumbles: ongbok: Sounds like my little sister. Her boss is an "evil biatch", her words, because she won't let her off an hour early everyday so she can pick up her son from daycare before 6. Her boss tried to compromise and have her come in at 7 instead of 8 so she could get off at 4, but that was unacceptable to my little sister. I asked her why does she think she can skip out everyday an hour early and not make up that time, and with a straight face she said that they should have to make an exception for her because she is a single mother.

8-5? Isn't that a 9 hour day?
Not defending your sister, but that seems a bit like bullshiat all by itself? And if she has to come in early, does she even have time to drop the kid off?


Most place, at least around here, have a nine hour day because you have an hour lunch that you are off the clock for. But yes she does have time to drop off her son if she started at 7, she says doing that would inconvenience her. Her main thing is that she wants our mother to take him to school and pick him up so she can hang out with her friends without having to be bothered with picking him up or waking up early to get him ready and take him to school, and she thinks that complaining about how evil and inflexible her boss is being will get that to happen.
2014-06-26 07:09:58 PM  
1 votes:

Watubi: Well, if she had cancer, Farkers would be on her side.  But, since it was a mental health issue, I'm guessing most here would just tell her "get over it" and have zero sympathy for her.  If the company has other employees working this alternate schedule at her former pay rate, she has a valid argument.


Depends on the context. Most people get stressed about traffic, even though they could just middle lane it, put on an audio book, and just get there eventually. People get so wound up, it ruins their whole morning because "other drivers are stupid".
I suppose if that affects you super bad, i'd consider alternate hours. As long as you could produce commensurate with your pay at that position.
But this smells like there were other issues at work.
2014-06-26 07:08:12 PM  
1 votes:
Fulton accommodated, but only temporarily, and also changed her position to a lower-level clerical one, says DeGerolamo. She filed a complaint in May 2013 and was fired the same month.

I don't have all that much sympathy, but if this is true, she could have a decent case. If her medical leave was documented and she was given a lower-paying position as a result, forget the whole "traffic" silliness that puts this story on the news and focus on that. Also, getting fired after filing a complaint sounds retaliatory.
2014-06-26 06:54:38 PM  
1 votes:

laid back w/bud light: I should sue too. My previous job turned me into an alcoholic.


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2014-06-26 06:51:12 PM  
1 votes:

Watubi: Well, if she had cancer, Farkers would be on her side.  But, since it was a mental health issue, I'm guessing most here would just tell her "get over it" and have zero sympathy for her.  If the company has other employees working this alternate schedule at her former pay rate, she has a valid argument.


You sound mentally unhealthy...
2014-06-26 06:42:18 PM  
1 votes:

johnny_vegas: Gunboat: Derpy comments using this single example as an indictment of all employment lawsuits

Millennials in 3... 2.... 1....



I'm more inclined to believe her entitlement has to do with her being female moreso than a millennial, although that is quite the double-whammy.
2014-06-26 06:40:25 PM  
1 votes:
Well, if she had cancer, Farkers would be on her side.  But, since it was a mental health issue, I'm guessing most here would just tell her "get over it" and have zero sympathy for her.  If the company has other employees working this alternate schedule at her former pay rate, she has a valid argument.
2014-06-26 06:36:31 PM  
1 votes:

laid back w/bud light: I should sue too. My previous job turned me into an alcoholic.


Any job that's antagonistic enough to drive you to drink is called "fulfilling" .
2014-06-26 06:35:35 PM  
1 votes:

Gunboat: Derpy comments using this single example as an indictment of all employment lawsuits

Millennials in 3... 2.... 1....


I am surprised South Jersey is not on Fark more.

/was South Jersey when South Jersey was all 609
//Pineys are worse than carny's
2014-06-26 06:34:49 PM  
1 votes:
Had a woman work with me that wanted to do something like this, show up late, if at all and leave early. Only reason she lasted as long as she did is her parents were friends with the operations manager.
2014-06-26 06:32:18 PM  
1 votes:
I should sue too. My previous job turned me into an alcoholic.
 
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