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(Philly.com)   When suing for compensation from a crippling car accident, please try to limit your 5k races. And 10k. And half marathons. And marathons   (philly.com) divider line 55
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2014-06-26 01:21:12 PM  
During his guilty plea hearing, Herman admitted that, though the car accident did occur, his injuries and chiropractic treatment records were fabricated.

Geez.  What was going on in Herman's head?
 
2014-06-26 01:27:15 PM  
"Mr. Herman has already inflicted upon himself emotional punishment, even without sentencing," the attorney wrote. "His self-inflicted ruination includes the consequences of the painful process of accepting and confessing to responsibility."

Remember when you farked up as a kid and your parents let you choose your own punishment?  Neither do I.

This is why I could never be an attorney.  They gave it their best shot, which is their job.  But I just don't think I could live with myself.
 
2014-06-26 02:45:28 PM  
The attorney stressed that the fraud was a "one-shot" crime "of fortuitous opportunity,"

How the fark is that a defense?  "Oh yeah, he did it.  But how can you expect a man to be honest when there's an opportunity to commit a crime??"
 
2014-06-26 03:06:42 PM  
So, the guy has to serve five months behind bars for insurance fraud, and this was his first criminal offense? Seems a bit harsh. It's not like he burned his house down, endangering the lives of fire fighters. He submitted a bogus injury claim, that's all. He's an idiot for running marathons, though. In cases like these, insurance companies hire private detectives to spy on the people with questionable claims. He should've known better.
 
2014-06-26 03:12:31 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: During his guilty plea hearing, Herman admitted that, though the car accident did occur, his injuries and chiropractic treatment records were fabricated.

Geez.  What was going on in Herman's head?


Excellent.
 
2014-06-26 03:13:01 PM  
If you fabricate a chiropratic report, does the rule of double-negatives mean you actually did derive some medical benefit from it?
 
2014-06-26 03:15:07 PM  

Diogenes: "Mr. Herman has already inflicted upon himself emotional punishment, even without sentencing," the attorney wrote. "His self-inflicted ruination includes the consequences of the painful process of accepting and confessing to responsibility."

Remember when you farked up as a kid and your parents let you choose your own punishment?  Neither do I.

This is why I could never be an attorney.  They gave it their best shot, which is their job.  But I just don't think I could live with myself.


Remember when that rich kid drove drunk and killed four people, and he got to choose rehab over jail?
 
2014-06-26 03:15:09 PM  
A chiropractor involved in a scam?  You don't say
 
2014-06-26 03:16:20 PM  
I am shocked, SHOCKED, that a chiropractor would commit insurance fraud.


Flakeloaf: If you fabricate a chiropratic report, does the rule of double-negatives mean you actually did derive some medical benefit from it?


Yes.  This ^^.   Awesome.
 
2014-06-26 03:19:31 PM  

Diogenes: Remember when you farked up as a kid and your parents let you choose your own punishment?


Yes, but every option sucked.
 
2014-06-26 03:23:16 PM  
Chiropractors are frauds by definition.
 
2014-06-26 03:24:30 PM  
Having been in a very bad car accident and suffered mainly soft tissue damage, I can tell you that soft tissue damage is impossible to prove, the ER told me my hand was fine, but I couldn't pick anything up over a pound or 2 for months.  I got 0 compensation for the hand injury I guess I should have gone to a Chiropractor instead of a real doctor.  My attorney told me not being able to bowl was not grounds for compensation.

/I also broke my nose, the reconstructive surgery was covered.
 
2014-06-26 03:24:41 PM  

Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.


People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.
 
2014-06-26 03:24:45 PM  
Finish this sequence:

Lawyer
Chiropractor
Chriopractor's Lawyer
????
 
2014-06-26 03:25:39 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.

People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.


Some people think The Jerk Hut is great, but I went in there and an old Mexican lady microwaved my food right in front of me.
 
2014-06-26 03:26:08 PM  

Mark Ratner: So, the guy has to serve five months behind bars for insurance fraud, and this was his first criminal offense? Seems a bit harsh


Seems a bit lenient to me.

I don't care that he didn't physically hurt or put anyone in danger.  He was going for major fraud and he did so knowingly and perpetuated his fraud for....how long?
 
2014-06-26 03:29:58 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: During his guilty plea hearing, Herman admitted that, though the car accident did occur, his injuries and chiropractic treatment records were fabricated.

Geez.  What was going on in Herman's head?


i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-06-26 03:30:01 PM  
his picture won't help get him any sympathy.
 
2014-06-26 03:30:02 PM  

gfid: Mark Ratner: So, the guy has to serve five months behind bars for insurance fraud, and this was his first criminal offense? Seems a bit harsh

Seems a bit lenient to me.

I don't care that he didn't physically hurt or put anyone in danger.  He was going for major fraud and he did so knowingly and perpetuated his fraud for....how long?


Not to mention all the other fraud he was most likely involved in.
 
2014-06-26 03:32:23 PM  
And the Penna. Chiropractic Board has, as of today, not yet taken action against his license?  He plead guilty six months ago.

http://www.licensepa.state.pa.us/Details.aspx?agency_id=1&license_id= 4 53570">http://www.licensepa.state.pa.us/Details.aspx?agency_id=1&licen se_id=4 53570&

I couldn't imagine a crime (although not conducted, per se, during the conduct of his profession) that would show more convincing evidence that he is unethical and not of good moral character which should disqualify him from licensure.  I mean, he makes his living submitting claims to insurance companies!
 
2014-06-26 03:32:45 PM  
FTFA:

Herman's defense attorney, in a sentencing memorandum, argued for a non-custodial sentence, calling the incident "an isolated mistake in a law-abiding life."

And this is where the judge should have said, "Really?  An isolated mistake?  10 years!"
He went through a lot of trouble, including falsifying documents to create his claim.  This goes well beyond simple fraud, or a simple mistake.  If he is sorry for what he did, it's only because he got caught.
 
2014-06-26 03:39:36 PM  
Sounds like he may have been...

Overcompensating?
 
2014-06-26 03:42:15 PM  
Dude is slow as fark.  Check out his times: https://www.athlinks.com/athletes/40881016/Profile
 
2014-06-26 03:42:20 PM  
Subby .......FTFY


img.fark.net
 
2014-06-26 03:43:08 PM  

AloysiusSnuffleupagus: And the Penna. Chiropractic Board has, as of today, not yet taken action against his license?  He plead guilty six months ago.

http://www.licensepa.state.pa.us/Details.aspx?agency_id=1&license_id= 4 53570">http://www.licensepa.state.pa.us/Details.aspx?agency_id=1&licen se_id=4 53570&

I couldn't imagine a crime (although not conducted, per se, during the conduct of his profession) that would show more convincing evidence that he is unethical and not of good moral character which should disqualify him from licensure.  I mean, he makes his living submitting claims to insurance companies!


It's a board predicated on insurance fraud. Why would they ban a member for doing their normal job?
 
2014-06-26 03:43:36 PM  

Big Beef Burrito: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.

People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.

Some people think The Jerk Hut is great, but I went in there and an old Mexican lady microwaved my food right in front of me.


But she was Mexican so it's all good.
 
2014-06-26 03:43:44 PM  

CruJones: A chiropractor involved in a scam?  You don't say


Yep, everything they do is a scam.  I was one here advertising that they could treat autism.
 
2014-06-26 03:45:50 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.

People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.


People also swear by: priests, acupuncture, reiki, homeopathy, healing crystals, the paleo diet, and ancient aliens.
 
2014-06-26 03:46:08 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.

People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.


Antivaxers mostly.
 
2014-06-26 03:46:40 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Dude is slow as fark.  Check out his times: https://www.athlinks.com/athletes/40881016/Profile


Dude, did you read the article?  He's got serious neck and back problems of course he's going to be slow duh.
 
2014-06-26 03:47:02 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.

People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.


Tons of people also believe that a zombie carpenter is going take them all to a happy place any day now. And tons of other people think that a pedophile warmonger makes for the ultimate role model. And tons of people (literally) think that eating a dozen snack cakes every day is an acceptable behavior.  And tons of people think vaccines are going to give their kids autism. And tons of people think GMO food is evil. And tons of people buy apple products.

So "tons of people" doesn't really imply anything positive.
 
2014-06-26 03:47:26 PM  

Russ1642: People also swear by: priests, acupuncture, reiki, homeopathy, healing crystals, the paleo diet, and ancient aliens.


chubby milfs at last call.

/but that one actually works
 
2014-06-26 03:47:42 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Big Beef Burrito: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.

People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.

Some people think The Jerk Hut is great, but I went in there and an old Mexican lady microwaved my food right in front of me.

But she was Mexican so it's all good.


Now I feel like the jerk.
 
2014-06-26 03:50:53 PM  

Big Beef Burrito: The Googles Do Nothing: Big Beef Burrito: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.

People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.

Some people think The Jerk Hut is great, but I went in there and an old Mexican lady microwaved my food right in front of me.

But she was Mexican so it's all good.

Now I feel like the jerk.


I have been to a totally different kind of Mexican jerk hut
 
2014-06-26 03:55:46 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Diogenes: Remember when you farked up as a kid and your parents let you choose your own punishment?

Yes, but every option sucked.


My parents left it open ended.

No TV for two days? Keep going.
No TV for a week? Keep going.
No TV for a month? Well, we were going to say two weeks, but a month works.
 
2014-06-26 03:57:32 PM  

Russ1642: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Russ1642: Chiropractors are frauds by definition.

People swear by them. I'd never go to one, but tons of people seem to think they work.

People also swear by: priests, acupuncture, reiki, homeopathy, healing crystals, the paleo diet, and ancient aliens.


sandboxtactics.com
 
2014-06-26 04:06:53 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Dude is slow as fark.  Check out his times: https://www.athlinks.com/athletes/40881016/Profile


I've been looking for a service like that, strangely enough.  Thanks!  And yeah, I wouldn't post times like that anywhere publicly.
 
2014-06-26 04:10:35 PM  

Mark Ratner: So, the guy has to serve five months behind bars for insurance fraud, and this was his first criminal offense? Seems a bit harsh. It's not like he burned his house down, endangering the lives of fire fighters. He submitted a bogus injury claim, that's all. He's an idiot for running marathons, though. In cases like these, insurance companies hire private detectives to spy on the people with questionable claims. He should've known better.


Well, it's a teeny bit worse than just that.

When USAA did not immediately honor his claim, Herman hired a lawyer and demanded the company pay out $60,000 - $17,527 for the reimbursement of treatment expenses and the remainder to compensate him for pain and suffering.

He submitted a bonus injury claim and then sued when it was declined.  And tacked on some extra fake "damages" from the denial.  Then ran some races.

Pretty damned ballsy.
 
2014-06-26 04:11:51 PM  

GoldSpider: The Googles Do Nothing: Dude is slow as fark.  Check out his times: https://www.athlinks.com/athletes/40881016/Profile

I've been looking for a service like that, strangely enough.  Thanks!  And yeah, I wouldn't post times like that anywhere publicly.


LOL.  That should have been part of his defense.  "Of course I was injured!  Did you see my times?!"
 
2014-06-26 04:21:56 PM  
My wife and I were in a minor accident in January and the person we hit recently said they were about to turn in their medical bills for 'treatment'.  The accident consisted of my wife encroaching into her lane and scraping the side of her car.  She stopped about 30 feet past our car in a congested 25 mph zone.

We sent our insurance company the dashcam footage that she doesn't know we have.  It will be interesting to see where this one goes.
 
2014-06-26 04:24:49 PM  
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2014-06-26 05:18:33 PM  

Mark Ratner: So, the guy has to serve five months behind bars for insurance fraud, and this was his first criminal offense? Seems a bit harsh. It's not like he burned his house down, endangering the lives of fire fighters. He submitted a bogus injury claim, that's all. He's an idiot for running marathons, though. In cases like these, insurance companies hire private detectives to spy on the people with questionable claims. He should've known better.


And this is coming from a guy that has a gorgeous Indian model for a fiancee?
 
2014-06-26 05:20:49 PM  

99.998er: Mark Ratner: So, the guy has to serve five months behind bars for insurance fraud, and this was his first criminal offense? Seems a bit harsh. It's not like he burned his house down, endangering the lives of fire fighters. He submitted a bogus injury claim, that's all. He's an idiot for running marathons, though. In cases like these, insurance companies hire private detectives to spy on the people with questionable claims. He should've known better.

And this is coming from a guy that has a gorgeous Indian model for a fiancee?


We broke up. She's now dating a plumber.
 
2014-06-26 05:35:02 PM  
Looking at the Athlinks times, he is indeed slow. Thought I was really slow, taking 38 minutes to do a 10k, six months after bariatric surgery. Chiropracters. Doctors in the sense that DeVry  graduates are fully qus\alified.
 
2014-06-26 05:53:07 PM  

Ex-Texan: Thought I was really slow, taking 38 minutes to do a 10k.


Did you mean 5k, 'cause 38 minutes is NOT slow for a 10k.
 
2014-06-26 05:58:02 PM  
seriously people that try these kind of scams and then blow it getting caught doing shiat they should not be able to do if their injuries were legit.

Even worse in this case as the guy had training in a profession that would have provided him extra insight into what his supposed injuries would limit him too.
 
2014-06-26 06:35:02 PM  
"Personal stresses, provided by work pressures and economic circumstances resulting from the divorce, weakened Mr. Herman's judgment and contributed to precipitating the infraction," McCarrie wrote in the memorandum.

I farking hate lawyers and this type of bullshiat.
 
2014-06-26 07:20:04 PM  
He has ugly Chiclet teeth.
 
2014-06-27 04:17:38 AM  

MartinaMcSorley: He has ugly Chiclet teeth.


And a very punchable face.
 
2014-06-27 08:41:47 AM  

Grandemadaca: Ex-Texan: Thought I was really slow, taking 38 minutes to do a 10k.

Did you mean 5k, 'cause 38 minutes is NOT slow for a 10k.


Yeah, holy crap.  If you can do 10K in 38 minutes you are very fast unless you consider yourself an elite runner.  99% of weekend warriors cannot do that.
 
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