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(Seattle Times)   Teachers will be protesting Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's meddling in their business. You know they're serious because they're doing it during summer vacation   (seattletimes.com) divider line 16
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2014-06-26 05:41:25 PM  
3 votes:

umad: B.L.Z. Bub: But seriously, I'm not exactly married to the idea of testing to evaluate teachers' performance. I'm open to alternative ideas, it's just that I have yet to hear any GOOD alternatives proposed.

Because there is no good alternative. The only way to know if a student learned anything is to ask them to demonstrate what they have learned.


I think we could hire a few dozen more administrators. Then we would have better teaching.
2014-06-26 10:58:37 PM  
2 votes:

get real: SubBass49: I'm just gonna leave this here...

Badass Teachers Association
Badass Teachers Association (facebook)

Yeah, teachers are getting sick of being pariahs and catching blame for the failings of our sackless politicians to address the ACTUAL issues (poverty, glorification of idiocy, parents that never hold their crotchfruit accountable for a damn thing, etc) that contribute to student failure.  Notice I said STUDENT failure, not teacher failure.

Like you all like to say to the waiters and waitress.....get a different job!  Someone deciding to be a teacher in this day and age and acting like they did not know what to expect is amusing.


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2014-06-26 07:32:54 PM  
2 votes:

JoieD'Zen: uberaverage: JoieD'Zen: cretinbob: You know teachers don't get paid during the summer, right cockgobblermitter?

I love this!

My Dad was a teacher for 27 years and got paid 27 summers. Also has been paid for 26 years since he retired.

I was referencing the use of cockgobblermitter.
Glad your dad got paid summers.


I am the mitter who gobblecocked this. My 70th approved link. I needed to get off 69, it was exhausting me.
2014-06-26 05:27:26 PM  
2 votes:
It just breaks my heart to see people disagree with our beneficence oligarch overlords.
2014-06-26 05:08:15 PM  
2 votes:

Intrepid00: I still can't figure out the beef with common core. Someone tell me.


It's different.
2014-06-26 09:18:22 PM  
1 votes:

umad: Teacher like typing detected. Perhaps you can point out where anyone has suggested that every student has to ace the test for it to count in the teacher's favor.


So the idiot kids who aren't the teacher's fault will be magically excluded from the test average?  No?
2014-06-26 09:06:33 PM  
1 votes:

Geotpf: JohnnyApocalypse: JoieD'Zen: Good. The Gates are also pushing GMO foods and questionable vaccines in other countries.

7/10

I'd give you more points, but I don't think you were trying to troll. It seemed an obvious sarcasto-response to me...

Yeah, that's one of those comments where I have no idea if he's trolling or not.


24 carat trolled.
2014-06-26 09:02:35 PM  
1 votes:

Rent Party: Teachers are the only organization I have ever seen that actively works against having their performance measured as part of an incentive program.


That's because teaching is the only job where "your" performance evaluation is a test given to someone else.

Think of one of the dumber kids you encountered in school.  The ones who inspired the phrase "you can't cure stupid."  The one who tried to lick a live wire, and who mocked the other kids for paying attention in class.  The idea here is that we're going to test that kid, and penalize his teacher because he is that kid.  We're going to blame the kid's current teacher for every bit of stupid that kid has accumulated.

This is like blaming a chef because a customer is obese at the end of a meal.  It's like blaming a doctor for terminal cancer patients who die from terminal cancer.  The only reason we even consider doing something that stupid is that it teachers are paid from taxes, and we as a society are obsessed with proving that they don't deserve the money and are part of a system that should be dismantled.
2014-06-26 06:22:14 PM  
1 votes:

meat0918: Mr. Eugenides: Aetre: Teacher, here.

Honestly, the Common Core initiative would be FINE if it would just eliminate its testing component. Just sayin'.

Without measurement there is no accountability.  How do you propose to objectively measure performance without testing?

Graduation rates


That doesn't work.  A district can always graduate kids who haven't actually learned how to read.

Testing is fine.  You need to figure out what kids are actually learning.  But it's a stupid way to evaluate teachers, because test scores have a lot more to do with the intelligence of the students than the skill of the teacher.
2014-06-26 06:18:04 PM  
1 votes:

BravadoGT: Wangiss: drayno76: Common core: why my daughter will not darken the door of public education.

Challenge: Finding an education program that isn't common core or Christian psycho babble.

I love that you're taking an active role. That's what the world needs. If you want to talk shop about homeschooling, EIP.

Send them to a Jewish school.   Good education, and they have no interest whatsoever in proselytizing to your kid.


Yea, but will they bowl on Saturday?
2014-06-26 05:56:05 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Eugenides: Aetre: Teacher, here.

Honestly, the Common Core initiative would be FINE if it would just eliminate its testing component. Just sayin'.

Without measurement there is no accountability.  How do you propose to objectively measure performance without testing?


Graduation rates
2014-06-26 05:28:19 PM  
1 votes:
"Badass Teachers Association"?

Really?
2014-06-26 05:15:21 PM  
1 votes:
This thread is certainly derpy enough to be confined to the Politics tab.
2014-06-26 05:06:59 PM  
1 votes:
Teacher, here.

Honestly, the Common Core initiative would be FINE if it would just eliminate its testing component. Just sayin'.
2014-06-26 05:03:00 PM  
1 votes:
Don't really have anything to contribute, so I am just going to leave this here...

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2014-06-26 03:53:00 PM  
1 votes:
Good. The Gates are also pushing GMO foods and questionable vaccines in other countries.
 
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