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2014-06-26 12:59:27 PM  
No tickee, no washee...
 
2014-06-26 02:15:23 PM  
Let it go....because, man, it's gone...
 
2014-06-26 02:24:34 PM  
Fark these two dumbasses.

But Lisa Iriarte said they should get the money "because it's not their fault the state updated the numbers later."

Lisa, what's that string of numbers next to the lottery numbers? Is that a date? Of when those numbers correspond to a drawing?

It's 100% their fault for not looking at what date the numbers are shown for. If they hadn't updated the site, then you hold the tickets until they update the site. If the lottery commission actually farked up and put the wrong winning numbers up you might have a point. Otherwise you're farking dumbasses all around.
 
2014-06-26 02:59:01 PM  
Go fark yourselves. YOU threw away a winning lotto ticket...not the people at the lotto office. This one's on YOU.
 
2014-06-26 02:59:13 PM  
scan your tickets, even if you think they're losers

or don't buy any and save yourself some money

/you can't lose if you don't play
 
2014-06-26 02:59:33 PM  
He could always just try to find the cave he lived in on prehistoric earth.
 
2014-06-26 02:59:33 PM  
Haven't other people been paid after reviewing sales records and video before?  I seem to recall that
 
2014-06-26 02:59:58 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark these two dumbasses.

But Lisa Iriarte said they should get the money "because it's not their fault the state updated the numbers later."

Lisa, what's that string of numbers next to the lottery numbers? Is that a date? Of when those numbers correspond to a drawing?

It's 100% their fault for not looking at what date the numbers are shown for. If they hadn't updated the site, then you hold the tickets until they update the site. If the lottery commission actually farked up and put the wrong winning numbers up you might have a point. Otherwise you're farking dumbasses all around.


And we're done here

/dumb asses
 
2014-06-26 03:00:04 PM  
To be fair, they do have a good case for getting the money back.  Yes, they were idiots for throwing it out, but they did check the website and thought they had lost... and they can easily prove it should be theirs.  That's pretty solid evidence, ticket or no.
 
2014-06-26 03:01:15 PM  
Sounds like their stupidity will keep them
*takes off sunglasses*.
Suffern
 
2014-06-26 03:01:20 PM  
I may had been a silent partner with them. Can I sue 'em?
 
2014-06-26 03:01:39 PM  
Salvatore Cambria and Erick Onyango, of Suffern, N.Y.,  say they threw the Powerball ticket away because they thought it was a loser after checking the winning numbers on the lottery's website - which, they claim, hadn't been updated.

Well, that's something.
 
2014-06-26 03:02:17 PM  

reillan: To be fair, they do have a good case for getting the money back.  Yes, they were idiots for throwing it out, but they did check the website and thought they had lost... and they can easily prove it should be theirs.  That's pretty solid evidence, ticket or no.


they also have video from the place they bought it from showing the purchase of three tickets, the 2nd being the winner
 
2014-06-26 03:02:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark these two dumbasses.

But Lisa Iriarte said they should get the money "because it's not their fault the state updated the numbers later."

Lisa, what's that string of numbers next to the lottery numbers? Is that a date? Of when those numbers correspond to a drawing?

It's 100% their fault for not looking at what date the numbers are shown for. If they hadn't updated the site, then you hold the tickets until they update the site. If the lottery commission actually farked up and put the wrong winning numbers up you might have a point. Otherwise you're farking dumbasses all around.


This.

That's how I did it.
*gets ticket*
*checks lottery site*
Huh...didn't win. oh we- oh wait, that's the date for last week. Let me check back in an hour
*one hour later*
Hey, the new numbers are up and.....yep. Looks like I will still be going to work tommorow and not shiatting on the boss's BMW after all.
 
2014-06-26 03:04:21 PM  
Isn't it ironic.

You win the lottory and throw the ticket away the next day.
 
2014-06-26 03:05:24 PM  
I'm impressed at the level of evidence they brought to prove they had the winning ticket.  But that's just it, isn't it?  They had the winning ticket.  Unless they can prove the state intentionally defrauded them, that's the end of the case.
 
2014-06-26 03:05:30 PM  

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/from NJ Lottery site
//don't care enough to fix it
 
2014-06-26 03:05:44 PM  

MythDragon: I will still be going to work tommorow and not shiatting on the boss's BMW


THAT's your job...NOT shiatting on someone's car? Y'all hiring?
 
2014-06-26 03:07:19 PM  
scenario:
Dumbass 1 buys his ticket
some random dolt who bought a ticket for 'fun' buys the next ticket.. never checks it..
Dumbass 2 buys his ticket.

they do some research and notice that their two tickets surround the winning ticket and make a claim.  Unlikely but enough of a chance to be believable.

unless you have the receipt that shows you bought all three tickets together.  Then no, you get nothing.
 
2014-06-26 03:07:38 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: MythDragon: I will still be going to work tommorow and not shiatting on the boss's BMW

THAT's your job...NOT shiatting on someone's car? Y'all hiring?


They will be. I'm getting fired. I had one job!
 
2014-06-26 03:09:23 PM  

smallerGov: scenario:
Dumbass 1 buys his ticket
some random dolt who bought a ticket for 'fun' buys the next ticket.. never checks it..
Dumbass 2 buys his ticket.

they do some research and notice that their two tickets surround the winning ticket and make a claim.  Unlikely but enough of a chance to be believable.

unless you have the receipt that shows you bought all three tickets together.  Then no, you get nothing.


The system knows which tickets were bought when and which per transaction, that's easy to prove. And videotape
 
2014-06-26 03:10:07 PM  
Wait. The US sends their garbage to Ontario? We send our garbage to Michigan!
 
2014-06-26 03:11:54 PM  
Can I sue you?

Sue me, what did I do?

Sue you, sue everybody.
 
2014-06-26 03:12:31 PM  

reillan: To be fair, they do have a good case for getting the money back.  Yes, they were idiots for throwing it out, but they did check the website and thought they had lost... and they can easily prove it should be theirs.  That's pretty solid evidence, ticket or no.


The think is that the state is under no onus to go paying off people who win, unless presented with a valid winning tiket.  When someone picks the winning numbers, the state does not institute a manhunt for the winner, throwing all state resources into finding said person.  People can - and do - fail to turn in winning tickets all the time.  If they have no ticket, then the state can just stand there and look at them blank-faced.

And even proving they bought the ticket doesn't mean anything.  There isn't anything to stop you from giving the ticket to someone else, at which point it is theirs.  "I bought it" doesn't automatically mean "I am the legal owner now".  Without proof of current ownership, the state would be negligent to award them money that may not be theirs.
 
2014-06-26 03:12:51 PM  
Those two piece of shiat and that dumb coont Lisa are why the rest of the world hates Americans and the rest of the universe hates Earth.
 
2014-06-26 03:13:19 PM  
Not the first time a winning ticket has been thrown away.

/ check those numbers.
 
2014-06-26 03:13:40 PM  
They're blaming someone else for my stupidity?  Well, I never!  My stupidity is my business and I'll assign blame where I choose, thank you very much!
 
2014-06-26 03:15:09 PM  
It's like buying a Willy Wonka chocolate bar and then eating the whole thing, golden wrapper and all.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-26 03:17:41 PM  
I understand the lawyer trying to make a buck but at what point do you just laugh them out of the office.
 
2014-06-26 03:18:18 PM  
Does this event involve the lottery system, the state of New Jersey, or dumbasses?
*reads TFA*
Trifecta!
 
2014-06-26 03:19:11 PM  
I hope they get the money.

It was an honest error and they can make a convincing case. I have no problem with this.
 
2014-06-26 03:19:15 PM  
The reason the lottery comission cannot be held liable for the site not being updated is very simple.  It clearly says that the numbers are not official.  Even when they do the drawings live, they are not official until verified.

Now, that being said, I don't exactly disagree with their case.  They know, and can prove where they got the ticket.  The lottery database can easily back up their claim, and produce a re-preint ticket.  If they are stonewalling, it's reasonable to assume that they lottery is just hoping it will go away.

But these guys actually DO have case.

Now, THAT being said, you should NEVER throw away your tickets.  You take them to the local lottery store, and scan them.  Then, and only then, do you toss away the losers.
//You're welcome for the free advice.
 
2014-06-26 03:19:17 PM  
faqsmedia.ign.com
 
2014-06-26 03:23:26 PM  
No, I can totally see this happening.  The other day I was going to buy a lottery ticket, only when I got to the store my friend Rico was all like, hey man, want to score some weed?  And I was like, no way, man, cause I'm like totally a straight edge dude now and then somehow a police dog started barking at me, and I'm like Rico is a narc?  Dude, what's going on?  Then I was running from someone and I got pepper sprayed again I think since I was all yellow and burning and I think that's why I fell in the river.  And I never got the lottery ticket, so I should totally sue someone since I didn't win.
 
2014-06-26 03:27:10 PM  
This case is actually very simple. Do the lottery rules say "You must produce the actual, original winning ticket." or do they say "You must prove you purchased the winning ticket".

Because, if it is the latter, and this guy's serial number claim pans out, then they are owed the money. If it is the former then screw them - they threw away $1M.
 
2014-06-26 03:27:25 PM  

CruJones: Haven't other people been paid after reviewing sales records and video before?  I seem to recall that


Yes, that has happened before. Not sure, how long 7-11 holds on to their security videos, though.

Those guys are dumbarses. As someone pointed out, the website shows the draw date and number.
They didn't catch that. Then they tossed the ticket. Then they took the lottery's word for it. Then they waited past the deadline to claim your winnings. At some point it's time to grow a spine and admit that you're the one at fault every step of the way.
 
2014-06-26 03:33:58 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: MythDragon: I will still be going to work tommorow and not shiatting on the boss's BMW

THAT's your job...NOT shiatting on someone's car? Y'all hiring?


It's part of my job. It's not explicitly written in the job description, but it's one of those implied things that falls under 'perform other duties as required'.
I could probably get fired for failing to not shiat on his car.
 
2014-06-26 03:35:35 PM  

Farking Canuck: If it is the former then screw them - they threw away $1M.


In my state, it says explicitly you have to send in the original signed.  They repeatedly state you need to make a photocopy and send it registered mail in case a meteor strikes the USPS van.  But sans the hand of God, they need you to send them the original.
 
2014-06-26 03:40:16 PM  

RedfordRenegade: Isn't it ironic.

You win the lottory and throw the ticket away the next day.


Only if it's raining.
 
2014-06-26 03:43:19 PM  

phalamir: Farking Canuck: If it is the former then screw them - they threw away $1M.

In my state, it says explicitly you have to send in the original signed.  They repeatedly state you need to make a photocopy and send it registered mail in case a meteor strikes the USPS van.  But sans the hand of God, they need you to send them the original.


There is no way in hell I would even let a winning ticket out of my sight. The second I saw those numbers line up I would be out the door on the way to the main lottery office.
 
2014-06-26 03:44:39 PM  
That one's for a lamborghini, might want to hold on to that one.
 
2014-06-26 03:46:10 PM  
The cases where someone got money after proving they bought a ticket were where they HAD a winning ticket and there was some question about who actually purchased the thing.

These dopes don't have their tickets. So even though it's PROBABLY a winning ticket, it can't be verified as a CERTAIN winning ticket; so these losers are SOL.
 
2014-06-26 03:49:08 PM  
Yes, this relevant piece is long, but it's worth the read: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=749519
 
2014-06-26 03:49:08 PM  
While they are crying in court some garbage man is busy digging for an early retirement...
 
2014-06-26 03:52:28 PM  
What "my dog ate it" doesn't work?
 
2014-06-26 03:57:29 PM  
"They even told me, 'You don't need a lawyer, don't get one. We know you're in the right,'".

cdn.crushable.com
 
2014-06-26 03:57:35 PM  

scottydoesntknow: phalamir: Farking Canuck: If it is the former then screw them - they threw away $1M.

In my state, it says explicitly you have to send in the original signed.  They repeatedly state you need to make a photocopy and send it registered mail in case a meteor strikes the USPS van.  But sans the hand of God, they need you to send them the original.

There is no way in hell I would even let a winning ticket out of my sight. The second I saw those numbers line up I would be out the door on the way to the main lottery office.


I am not disagreeing with you, just telling you what the state lottery website said.  Though considering they repeatedly said "mail in" I wonder if they would take a ticket directly from your hand. In any account, they were quite adamant that they needed the original.
 
2014-06-26 04:00:00 PM  
Article has a helpful picture of what an Illinois lottery ticket would look like.
 
2014-06-26 04:01:30 PM  
But Lisa Iriarte said they should get the money "because it's not their fault the state updated the numbers later."

31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-06-26 04:03:15 PM  
The State has a pretty damn good idea who's won, hell-Cali's tracked down people with unclaimed MegaMillions tix via news reports utilizing liquor store security footage(one woman still had the ticket in her glovebox 6 months later-I'd bet the last guy was an illegal, since he never came forth) but you look over the "Remaining Prizes" on these scratcher games & you just know somebody's thrown million-dollar tickets away.  Ah well, beats the Irish Sweepstakes
 
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