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2014-06-26 08:52:42 AM  
Probably.  We know what it takes to stop it, basically, isolation.

The only way you can contract the disease is by coming in contact with the diarrhea or blood of an infected person, which pretty much only happens after the incubation period ends.

If you use proper infection control measures, the disease stops.
 
2014-06-26 08:56:48 AM  
Well, World War Z is free on Prime, apparently, and so I started watching it last night thinking that even though it looked ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit I'd give it a chance since I didn't have to pay for it. And based on that, I think I have the authority to say that no, the United States is not prepared.

I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.
 
2014-06-26 10:08:35 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, World War Z is free on Prime, apparently, and so I started watching it last night thinking that even though it looked ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit I'd give it a chance since I didn't have to pay for it. And based on that, I think I have the authority to say that no, the United States is not prepared.

I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.


You want to know how it ends. You do.
 
2014-06-26 10:11:27 AM  
Nuke it from orbit, only way.
 
2014-06-26 10:11:48 AM  
I worry about Ebola as much as I worry about Global Warming.
 
2014-06-26 10:11:56 AM  

dittybopper: Probably. We know what it takes to stop it, basically, isolation.


I disagree.  The relentless pursuit of efficiency in health care has resulted in a real dearth of spare beds.  A mass casualty event would start straining the system pretty quickly.
 
2014-06-26 10:12:29 AM  
Well sounds like time to go see president Madagascar.
 
2014-06-26 10:12:36 AM  
Bring it on! I had broccoli for lunch!
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-06-26 10:13:01 AM  
Close all the airports except the ones in Kansas.
 
2014-06-26 10:13:24 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: Pocket Ninja: Well, World War Z is free on Prime, apparently, and so I started watching it last night thinking that even though it looked ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit I'd give it a chance since I didn't have to pay for it. And based on that, I think I have the authority to say that no, the United States is not prepared.

I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.

You want to know how it ends. You do.


the invaders have died from microbial infections to which they had no immunity, since "there are no bacteria in Mars."
 
2014-06-26 10:13:35 AM  
Is this the one we duct tape our houses shut, or the one we wear those goofy hospital masks that asian women wear?
 
2014-06-26 10:14:03 AM  

Oldiron_79: Well sounds like time to go see president Madagascar.


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2014-06-26 10:15:12 AM  

Oldiron_79: Well sounds like time to go see president Madagascar.


He's always ready for an outbreak of Ebola.
 
2014-06-26 10:16:05 AM  

dittybopper: Probably.  We know what it takes to stop it, basically, isolation.

The only way you can contract the disease is by coming in contact with the diarrhea or blood of an infected person, which pretty much only happens after the incubation period ends.

If you use proper infection control measures, the disease stops.


That and we do extensive testing for anyone going in and out of Africa. My best friend has been there 4 times, and had to take extensive medical testing, get several vaccinations, the whole 9 yards.
 
2014-06-26 10:16:06 AM  

dittybopper: Probably.  We know what it takes to stop it, basically, isolation.

The only way you can contract the disease is by coming in contact with the diarrhea or blood of an infected person, which pretty much only happens after the incubation period ends.

If you use proper infection control measures, the disease stops.


Exactly. In cases like these I'd say simply prohibit members of that population travel outside their country.
 
2014-06-26 10:17:39 AM  
Vast epidemics are pretty much a thing of the past, our cities are far cleaner and less vermin-infested than they were in the middle ages.  Most of the outbreaks today occur in places with few toilets.
 
2014-06-26 10:18:02 AM  
Hopefully some day they can develop a vaccine so that parents can choose not to use it.
 
2014-06-26 10:20:51 AM  

kling_klang_bed: dittybopper: Probably.  We know what it takes to stop it, basically, isolation.

The only way you can contract the disease is by coming in contact with the diarrhea or blood of an infected person, which pretty much only happens after the incubation period ends.

If you use proper infection control measures, the disease stops.

That and we do extensive testing for anyone going in and out of Africa.


I got back from Botswana a few months ago and walked off the plane and into a taxi without so much as a 'how was your trip'.

There are regulations on yellow fever vaccinations if you're going to a yellow fever area but we don't 'do extensive testing for anyone going in and out of Africa' by any means. My team goes to Nigeria all the time and they are just told "you should get hepatitis vaccine'. No tests on return.
 
2014-06-26 10:21:00 AM  
yeah I don't think it would spread too easily in a developed nation
 
2014-06-26 10:21:35 AM  

dittybopper: coming in contact with the diarrhea or blood


There goes my weekend.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-06-26 10:21:39 AM  
Pocket Ninja:
I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.

The book is high on my suggestion list, though.  It takes a realistic approach to a non-realistic event and it actually is provides a lot of incite in problems we have to face with real disasters.  I didn't bother with the movie after the trailer came out and the river of fast zombies shiat.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-06-26 10:22:21 AM  

Headso: yeah I don't think it would spread too easily in a developed nation


So we have to make sure it doesn't get into the South.

//ok.. that's enough.  Let me go sit over in the corner now.
 
2014-06-26 10:24:16 AM  
If Ebola beats us in the World Cup, we'd be eliminated.
 
2014-06-26 10:24:40 AM  
Periodically there is a plague of one kind or another that culls the human heard. Technology has prevented a few of these natural purges over the last century or so, but nobody bats a thousand. It's scary and all encompassing and fills the world with grief and horror. But then it's over and the those who are left have the planet pretty much all to themselves. When the Bubonic plague gutted Europe supply and demand meant that laborers had a stronger bargaining position which led to the end of the Feudal system. The reason the Vikings never had a permanent settlement in North America was because there were too many native Americans who were able to repel them. Years later when the Spaniards came, their population was only a fraction of what it had been, and Whitey was here to stay. Sooner or later something is going to sweep across the globe and cut that 7 billion number down significantly, and some 300 or so years after they will talk about the residual benefits of it having happened.
 
2014-06-26 10:25:00 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Vast epidemics are pretty much a thing of the past, our cities are far cleaner and less vermin-infested than they were in the middle ages.  Most of the outbreaks today occur in places with few toilets.


I take it that you have never been to NYC.
 
2014-06-26 10:25:10 AM  
We have Dustin Hoffman and Cuba Gooding, Jr. We're good.
 
2014-06-26 10:25:34 AM  

CruJones: Is this the one we duct tape our houses shut, or the one we wear those goofy hospital masks that asian women wear?


It's the one where we all walk around work in space suits like that scene in ET.
 
2014-06-26 10:25:54 AM  

d23: Pocket Ninja:
I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.

The book is high on my suggestion list, though.  It takes a realistic approach to a non-realistic event and it actually is provides a lot of incite in problems we have to face with real disasters.  I didn't bother with the movie after the trailer came out and the river of fast zombies shiat.


If you enjoyed the book, you should really hear the audiobook, which has a stellar cast.
 
2014-06-26 10:26:29 AM  
Came for President Madagascar, leaving satisfied.
 
2014-06-26 10:27:28 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Vast epidemics are pretty much a thing of the past, our cities are far cleaner and less vermin-infested than they were in the middle ages.  Most of the outbreaks today occur in places with few toilets.


You don't say
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2014-06-26 10:27:39 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Vast epidemics are pretty much a thing of the past, our cities are far cleaner and less vermin-infested than they were in the middle ages.  Most of the outbreaks today occur in places with few toilets.


Or with high anti-vaxxer populations
 
2014-06-26 10:32:27 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, World War Z is free on Prime, apparently, and so I started watching it last night thinking that even though it looked ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit I'd give it a chance since I didn't have to pay for it. And based on that, I think I have the authority to say that no, the United States is not prepared.

I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.


Hate to tell you, but the first half WAS the good part.
 
2014-06-26 10:32:40 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Periodically there is a plague of one kind or another that culls the human heard. Technology has prevented a few of these natural purges over the last century or so, but nobody bats a thousand. It's scary and all encompassing and fills the world with grief and horror. But then it's over and the those who are left have the planet pretty much all to themselves. When the Bubonic plague gutted Europe supply and demand meant that laborers had a stronger bargaining position which led to the end of the Feudal system. The reason the Vikings never had a permanent settlement in North America was because there were too many native Americans who were able to repel them. Years later when the Spaniards came, their population was only a fraction of what it had been, and Whitey was here to stay. Sooner or later something is going to sweep across the globe and cut that 7 billion number down significantly, and some 300 or so years after they will talk about the residual benefits of it having happened.


I was going to comment on the economic benefits of having an epidemic wipe out labor competition, but you've covered it. When disease kills people, the poor people who are left benefit by seizing opportunities that didn't exist prior to the epidemic. The Black Plague ended feudalism in Western Europe. Without competition, skilled laborers could set their own prices and gradually evolved into a non-aristocratic merchant class.
 
2014-06-26 10:35:09 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Periodically there is a plague of one kind or another that culls the human heard. Technology has prevented a few of these natural purges over the last century or so, but nobody bats a thousand. It's scary and all encompassing and fills the world with grief and horror. But then it's over and the those who are left have the planet pretty much all to themselves. When the Bubonic plague gutted Europe supply and demand meant that laborers had a stronger bargaining position which led to the end of the Feudal system. The reason the Vikings never had a permanent settlement in North America was because there were too many native Americans who were able to repel them. Years later when the Spaniards came, their population was only a fraction of what it had been, and Whitey was here to stay. Sooner or later something is going to sweep across the globe and cut that 7 billion number down significantly, and some 300 or so years after they will talk about the residual benefits of it having happened.


WHAT??? Can't hear ya...
 
2014-06-26 10:37:30 AM  
"The chance of Ebola spreading out of West Africa is very, very low,"

"But critical differences between SARS and Ebola make the Ebola virus much less threatening"

"Unlike SARS, Ebola doesn't pass easily from person to person. "Transmission requires very close contact with bodily fluids, like blood or mucus," Gendreau says. "You need prolonged contact with somebody."



Big scary headline is big and scary.
 
2014-06-26 10:38:16 AM  

Catsaregreen: I worry about Ebola as much as I worry about Global Warming.


OK guys, there's you cue. Begin the barrage of insults and talking down to this poster about how he doesn't believe in science. Copy paste some charts and assume that he's a Republican and then throw in some Derp.  You'll have him believing the propaganda in no time. It's Fark after all.
 
2014-06-26 10:38:48 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, World War Z is free on Prime, apparently, and so I started watching it last night thinking that even though it looked ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit I'd give it a chance since I didn't have to pay for it. And based on that, I think I have the authority to say that no, the United States is not prepared.

I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.


Oh please tell me you stopped right after the plane crash.

The remaining movie is actually a reshoot, because the original climax was considered boring.

So they got Brad Pitt and one soldier from previous scenes and everyone else is new. Not only that, all the other actors have gone home so he can only call his wife or commander friends offscreen.

It's hilariously tonally dissonant to the rest if the movie too.

The only joy I get from that POS movie is how two types of awful movie merge into a shiat sandwich.

Enjoy!
 
2014-06-26 10:39:01 AM  
'"The chance of Ebola spreading out of West Africa is very, very low," says infectious disease specialist Kamran Khan, with St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto.'

Anyone not understand this and that all this ebola scare-talking is the standard media OMFGWAGD!

500 case with 338 deaths in three countries does not qualify as an epidemic. With ebola the WHO is obviously concerned, but not about to panic.
 
2014-06-26 10:39:47 AM  

tothekor: We have Dustin Hoffman and Cuba Gooding, Jr. We're good.


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I read this article last night and actually found it a little re assuring.

You have to have "Close body contact" either contact with blood, or mucus to contract the disease.  A little research indicates a lot of cases are linked to consumption of "bushmeat" (not that bush, and not THAT BUSH either).

If cases of it started turning up state side, I would imagine a massive public health response that could stop something like this in it's tracks.

I would worry more about a Flu pandemic....
 
2014-06-26 10:39:47 AM  

Arkanaut: If Ebola beats us in the World Cup, we'd be eliminated.


Pulling a Yellow Fever Card on that post.
 
2014-06-26 10:41:22 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: Pocket Ninja: Well, World War Z is free on Prime, apparently, and so I started watching it last night thinking that even though it looked ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit I'd give it a chance since I didn't have to pay for it. And based on that, I think I have the authority to say that no, the United States is not prepared.

I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.

You want to know how it ends. You do.


Snape kills Dumbledore.
 
2014-06-26 10:42:52 AM  
Good. Our Ebola league could use a few more Ebolers.
 
2014-06-26 10:43:17 AM  
The new matra of the US of Mommyocracy, "FEAR SAFETY, FEAr SAFETY, FEAR SAFETY,"  OMG!!!!  want someone pass a law so we will FELL safe?   Politicans and Government, "SURE!"  Just check another freedom at the door please.
 
2014-06-26 10:43:25 AM  

dittybopper: Probably.  We know what it takes to stop it, basically, isolation.

The only way you can contract the disease is by coming in contact with the diarrhea or blood of an infected person, which pretty much only happens after the incubation period ends.

If you use proper infection control measures, the disease stops.


Yeah, stay home for a week and don't drink directly out of the sewer.  This is where most 3rd world countries have a problem.
 
2014-06-26 10:44:36 AM  
This thing doesn't spread like the flu or the cold; you actually have to have prolonged contact with other bodily fluids. Given the difficulty the disease has in spreading, even if an infection made it to the US, there'd be very little spread. Between public health measures and cultural attitudes about sickness, it seems unlikely to go anywhere.

Or we could go back to fear mongering, that works, too.
 
2014-06-26 10:45:51 AM  

machoprogrammer: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Vast epidemics are pretty much a thing of the past, our cities are far cleaner and less vermin-infested than they were in the middle ages.  Most of the outbreaks today occur in places with few toilets.

Or with high anti-vaxxer populations


Simple, only allow kids with vaccines into public school. Sure a few private schools may allow them, but a concentrated population unvaccinated children will up in nature taking its course.
 
2014-06-26 10:46:58 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, World War Z is free on Prime, apparently, and so I started watching it last night thinking that even though it looked ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit I'd give it a chance since I didn't have to pay for it. And based on that, I think I have the authority to say that no, the United States is not prepared.

I will also say that "free" was still too expensive for that movie, which was every bit as ridiculous and stupid and utterly without merit as I was expecting. It was also boring, repetitive, predictable garbage, one of the dumbest concepts and worst book adaptations I've ever seen. I gave up halfway through and haven't decided yet whether I'll inflict the rest of it upon myself.


How will you follow along with the sequel?
 
2014-06-26 10:47:37 AM  

GORDON: dittybopper: Probably.  We know what it takes to stop it, basically, isolation.

The only way you can contract the disease is by coming in contact with the diarrhea or blood of an infected person, which pretty much only happens after the incubation period ends.

If you use proper infection control measures, the disease stops.

Yeah, stay home for a week and don't drink directly out of the sewer.  This is where most 3rd world countries have a problem.


You may want to go to the hospital for this one. Internal bleeding and 105 degree fevers and all that.
 
2014-06-26 10:47:46 AM  
if it wipes out the anti-vaxers, do we care?
 
2014-06-26 10:47:55 AM  
Common Cold PWNS all other diseases for numbers killed.
 
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