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(KHOU Houston)   What's worse than being bitten by a recluse spider? Being bitten by a recluse spider in bed. What's worse than that? You don't know you were bitten until much later when you're in crippling pain. What's worse than that? Doctors misdiagnose the bite   (khou.com) divider line 91
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2014-06-26 02:51:35 AM
Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.
 
2014-06-26 09:07:21 AM

JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.


What about a bite from a recluse wombat?
 
2014-06-26 09:25:13 AM

gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?


Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?
 
2014-06-26 09:26:20 AM

K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?


Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem?
 
2014-06-26 09:26:20 AM
My sister was bitten by a recluse once.

To be fair, bites from Bill Watterson can be painful.
 
2014-06-26 09:26:24 AM
"There's no pain in the world that can describe. It's like someone sticking a knife in there and carving your leg out," explained Leclaire from her hospital bed. "I'd rather be bitten by a snake."

Because you can just laugh off snake venom.
 
2014-06-26 09:28:23 AM
Knew a guy who got bit, not once but twice. He waited almost a month to go to the doctor...


/CSB
 
2014-06-26 09:30:36 AM
I think I got bitten by something brown recluse-like when stationed in Hawaii.  Nobody is quite sure what actually bit me (there are a LOT of bugs in the tropics), but when I got cleaned up from a field exercise I had a bit on my left arm.  In a few days it swelled up to the size of a ping pong ball and it gave me lockjaw.  They shot me up full of antibiotics, lanced the thing and pulled a chunk of dead tissue the size of a jelly bean out of my arm.  After that they swabbed it out and put a strip of gauze in the hole to keep it from healing over the top and festering.  Hurt like crap for about three days after. 
It left a scar that I  still have (this happened in '86), and for years I told girls that it was a bullet wound.

A Venezualan friend of mine says that that's pretty much how they handle bad bug bites where he grew up, but they use some leaf that has antibiotic properties for the "wick".

/CSB mode off
 
2014-06-26 09:31:55 AM
If you want to see what happens when you are bitten and don't seek medical attention do a GIS or YIS for Brown Recluse spider bite pictures.

I warn you, you'd better have a strong stomach.
 
2014-06-26 09:32:37 AM

Muta: K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?


Or a truckload of recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem with a live one in the middle trying to eat it's way out.
 
2014-06-26 09:33:34 AM
www.deathmetal.org

Jeff Hanneman (Slayer), anyone?
 
2014-06-26 09:35:46 AM

fireclown: I think I got bitten by something brown recluse-like when stationed in Hawaii.  Nobody is quite sure what actually bit me (there are a LOT of bugs in the tropics), but when I got cleaned up from a field exercise I had a bit on my left arm.  In a few days it swelled up to the size of a ping pong ball and it gave me lockjaw.  They shot me up full of antibiotics, lanced the thing and pulled a chunk of dead tissue the size of a jelly bean out of my arm.  After that they swabbed it out and put a strip of gauze in the hole to keep it from healing over the top and festering.  Hurt like crap for about three days after. 
It left a scar that I  still have (this happened in '86), and for years I told girls that it was a bullet wound.

A Venezualan friend of mine says that that's pretty much how they handle bad bug bites where he grew up, but they use some leaf that has antibiotic properties for the "wick".

/CSB mode off


Same thing happened to me, but it was MRSA and on my balls.
 
2014-06-26 09:36:02 AM

moos: Knew a guy who got bit, not once but twice. He waited almost a month to go to the doctor...


/CSB


My uncle got a bite on his ankle. It was pretty farking gross.
 
2014-06-26 09:36:07 AM
I like how they wait to the very end of the article to casually throw in this line:

Experts also say that the arachnids can hide in bed sheets and shoes.
 
2014-06-26 09:36:48 AM
To be fair to the people who misdiagnosed her, brown recluse spider bites are uncommon even in endemic areas, exceedingly rare in others.

Outside of brown recluse territory, the "spider bite" is almost invariably MRSA, which looks very similar with a black necrotic center, surrounding red area, and severe pain. People even swear they saw the spider, but where I work (the Northeast) there are almost no such spiders, and these "bites" resolve with MRSA treatment.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/ NEJMcp070747
"Skin and soft-tissue infections represent the majority of the community-associated MRSA disease ....Necrotic skin lesions are a common presentation and are often incorrectly attributed to bites by brown recluse spiders (even in areas where these spiders do not live) or insect bites"

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/ NEJMra041184
"The brown recluse spider, L. reclusa, is responsible for most episodes of envenomation in its native range in central and southern states that include southeastern Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, northern Georgia, and southern portions of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Iowa....Five additional native loxosceles spiders occupy widespread areas in the southwestern United States. In Brazil, L. intermedia, L. gaucho, and L. laeta are medically important6; of these, L. laeta is the most toxic."
 
2014-06-26 09:36:49 AM

ChipNASA: Muta: K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?

Or a truckload of recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem with a live one in the middle trying to eat it's way out.


Or the Holocaust.
 
2014-06-26 09:37:26 AM

ChipNASA: Muta: K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?

Or a truckload of recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem with a live one in the middle trying to eat it's way out.


I think that was an episode of Doctor Who.
 
2014-06-26 09:38:22 AM

abhorrent1: moos: Knew a guy who got bit, not once but twice. He waited almost a month to go to the doctor...


/CSB

My uncle got a bite on his ankle. It was pretty farking gross.


My brother got bit on the shin at summer camp. In a letter shortly after, he said "oh, yeah, I also got bit by a spider". My mom freaked when she saw the bite. It was pretty much healed by the time he was picked up from camp.
 
2014-06-26 09:40:40 AM
People's reaction to Brown Recluse bites varies widely.  Some people have little reaction, others go into shock.  Losing flesh to necrosis is common, though.  One of the questions to determine if you've been bitten by a Black Widow or Brown Recluse is, "Is this the worst pain you've ever experienced?".  I've got a book titled "The Red Hourglass: Lives of the Predators" that is a good read on the subject.  Author is disturbed and disturbing.
 
2014-06-26 09:42:13 AM

K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?


Am I the only one who has that dream?
 
2014-06-26 09:43:02 AM
I actually was bitten by a brown recluse in bed. On my big toe. I jerked my foot and smashed and smeared it in my bed sheets. Everything about it was horrible.
 
2014-06-26 09:44:23 AM
I ran into a guy with a huge bandage on his arm.  I asked what happened, he said he was bit by a recluse a YEAR AND A HALF AGO.  I was shocked a bite could last so long.
 
2014-06-26 09:44:25 AM

foo monkey: fireclown: I think I got bitten by something brown recluse-like when stationed in Hawaii.  Nobody is quite sure what actually bit me (there are a LOT of bugs in the tropics), but when I got cleaned up from a field exercise I had a bit on my left arm.  In a few days it swelled up to the size of a ping pong ball and it gave me lockjaw.  They shot me up full of antibiotics, lanced the thing and pulled a chunk of dead tissue the size of a jelly bean out of my arm.  After that they swabbed it out and put a strip of gauze in the hole to keep it from healing over the top and festering.  Hurt like crap for about three days after. 
It left a scar that I  still have (this happened in '86), and for years I told girls that it was a bullet wound.

A Venezualan friend of mine says that that's pretty much how they handle bad bug bites where he grew up, but they use some leaf that has antibiotic properties for the "wick".

/CSB mode off

Same thing happened to me, but it was MRSA and on my balls.


O_0 !

I don't know what to say, except that I sympathize and I hope you recovered fully.
 
2014-06-26 09:44:39 AM

King Something: ChipNASA: Muta: K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?

Or a truckload of recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem with a live one in the middle trying to eat it's way out.

Or the Holocaust.


Or the Holocaust that leaves only Justin Bieber and his many fans alive.  And you.
 
2014-06-26 09:44:52 AM

JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.


Getting bit by Pamela Anderson?
 
2014-06-26 09:44:58 AM
That pretty much sounds exactly how everyone I know who was bitten by one had it happen.  Bit, misdiagnosed, develop huge gaping sore, re-diagnose
 
2014-06-26 09:45:45 AM

lake_huron: To be fair to the people who misdiagnosed her, brown recluse spider bites are uncommon even in endemic areas, exceedingly rare in others.

Outside of brown recluse territory, the "spider bite" is almost invariably MRSA, which looks very similar with a black necrotic center, surrounding red area, and severe pain. People even swear they saw the spider, but where I work (the Northeast) there are almost no such spiders, and these "bites" resolve with MRSA treatment.


Interesting.  Does the venom stay for an extended period in the wound or does it break down after a while?  Seems like you would start treating for the symptoms of the bite after a certain point, rather than try to neutralize the venom.
 
2014-06-26 09:46:06 AM
This thread is just fine without pics, KTHANKXBYE.
 
2014-06-26 09:46:08 AM
i2.mirror.co.uk
o hai!!
 
2014-06-26 09:46:55 AM

Cold_Sassy: If you want to see what happens when you are bitten and don't seek medical attention do a GIS or YIS for Brown Recluse spider bite pictures.

I warn you, you'd better have a strong stomach.


I'm melting. . .
 
2014-06-26 09:48:20 AM

Toy Boat: King Something: ChipNASA: Muta: K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?

Or a truckload of recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem with a live one in the middle trying to eat it's way out.

Or the Holocaust.

Or the Holocaust that leaves only Justin Bieber and his many fans alive.  And you.


I am very upset that my contribution got misquoted out.   ChipNASA better exercise caution when he starts his car.  It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow but expect something sometime.
 
2014-06-26 09:48:26 AM

foo monkey: fireclown: I think I got bitten by something brown recluse-like when stationed in Hawaii.  Nobody is quite sure what actually bit me (there are a LOT of bugs in the tropics), but when I got cleaned up from a field exercise I had a bit on my left arm.  In a few days it swelled up to the size of a ping pong ball and it gave me lockjaw.  They shot me up full of antibiotics, lanced the thing and pulled a chunk of dead tissue the size of a jelly bean out of my arm.  After that they swabbed it out and put a strip of gauze in the hole to keep it from healing over the top and festering.  Hurt like crap for about three days after. 
It left a scar that I  still have (this happened in '86), and for years I told girls that it was a bullet wound.

A Venezualan friend of mine says that that's pretty much how they handle bad bug bites where he grew up, but they use some leaf that has antibiotic properties for the "wick".

/CSB mode off

Same thing happened to me, but it was MRSA and on my balls.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-26 09:53:10 AM
Misunderstood Spider my ass.
 
2014-06-26 09:54:37 AM

wxboy: I like how they wait to the very end of the article to casually throw in this line:

Experts also say that the arachnids can hide in bed sheets and shoes.


Only an expert would know that.
 
2014-06-26 09:56:29 AM

Muta: Toy Boat: King Something: ChipNASA: Muta: K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?

Or a truckload of recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem with a live one in the middle trying to eat it's way out.

Or the Holocaust.

Or the Holocaust that leaves only Justin Bieber and his many fans alive.  And you.

I am very upset that my contribution got misquoted out.   ChipNASA better exercise caution when he starts his car.  It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow but expect something sometime.


... sidles quietly back into the saloon through the iconic swinging doors, and peers out into the dusty street, awaiting the inevitable standoff ...
 
2014-06-26 09:56:43 AM
The whole "brown recluse bite results in lost limb" is pretty much a myth. There's plenty of stories of bites, but few actual spiders turned in from patients saying "this bit me. "

In reality, what causes skin tissue death in these cases is bacteria from a puncture wound, or an existing medical condition.  That's why they give you anti biotics, not ANTI VENOM.

Patients who are immuno compromised are very common, so the slightest puncture to their skin can have severe consequences. Think of all the diabetics that lose limbs due to blisters on their foot.

Keep in mind that many of these cases come from locations where the spider doesn't even live.
 
2014-06-26 09:57:07 AM
spiders.ucr.edu

entomology.unl.edu

Where they are, and what they look like.  Note the "violin" mark on the little guys back.
 
2014-06-26 09:57:29 AM
I'd just like to say that I am glad this has not devolved into the typical Spider Thread.TM

That is all.
 
2014-06-26 09:57:50 AM

foo monkey: fireclown: I think I got bitten by something brown recluse-like when stationed in Hawaii.  Nobody is quite sure what actually bit me (there are a LOT of bugs in the tropics), but when I got cleaned up from a field exercise I had a bit on my left arm.  In a few days it swelled up to the size of a ping pong ball and it gave me lockjaw.  They shot me up full of antibiotics, lanced the thing and pulled a chunk of dead tissue the size of a jelly bean out of my arm.  After that they swabbed it out and put a strip of gauze in the hole to keep it from healing over the top and festering.  Hurt like crap for about three days after. 
It left a scar that I  still have (this happened in '86), and for years I told girls that it was a bullet wound.

A Venezualan friend of mine says that that's pretty much how they handle bad bug bites where he grew up, but they use some leaf that has antibiotic properties for the "wick".

/CSB mode off

Same thing happened to me, but it was MRSA and on my balls.


For your sake, I hope the wick did not stick out farther than Mr. Happy.  The insult to injury would be crushing.

Almost as bad as when I thought I found a pubic hair and then peed out of it.
 
2014-06-26 09:59:16 AM

valkore: lake_huron: To be fair to the people who misdiagnosed her, brown recluse spider bites are uncommon even in endemic areas, exceedingly rare in others.

Outside of brown recluse territory, the "spider bite" is almost invariably MRSA, which looks very similar with a black necrotic center, surrounding red area, and severe pain. People even swear they saw the spider, but where I work (the Northeast) there are almost no such spiders, and these "bites" resolve with MRSA treatment.

Interesting.  Does the venom stay for an extended period in the wound or does it break down after a while?  Seems like you would start treating for the symptoms of the bite after a certain point, rather than try to neutralize the venom.


Seems like some of the advancement is contributed to by gangrene or necrosis.  Or both, I guess.  Don't they all go together?

Venom
 
2014-06-26 09:59:41 AM

fireclown: [spiders.ucr.edu image 585x413]

[entomology.unl.edu image 600x397]

Where they are, and what they look like.  Note the "violin" mark on the little guys back.


They also only have six eyes.  You can't see it on casual inspection, but it's interesting.
 
2014-06-26 10:02:20 AM

fireclown: [spiders.ucr.edu image 585x413]

[entomology.unl.edu image 600x397]

Where they are, and what they look like.  Note the "violin" mark on the little guys back.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2014-06-26 10:06:06 AM

Toy Boat: Seems like some of the advancement is contributed to by gangrene or necrosis. Or both, I guess. Don't they all go together?


That's pretty much how they explained it to me.  The toxin itself had done it's damage, causing an ugly swelling and about 2 ccs of liquified/mostly dead tissue.  After that got cleaned out, the plan was to keep it from getting infected any further.  The "wick" is to 1)drain out some really yucky fluids and 2)keep the hole open so that it doesn't heal over, leaving a possibly infected pocket which could go ugly and be even more destructive.

I was pretty lucky, ending up with a small (5mm?) circular scar.  It gets a lot worse.  Don't GIS brown recluse bites without thinking twice.
 
2014-06-26 10:06:17 AM

King Something: ChipNASA: Muta: K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?

Or a truckload of recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem with a live one in the middle trying to eat it's way out.

Or the Holocaust.


Or the Spanish Inquisition, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
 
2014-06-26 10:10:57 AM
Even the doctor who saved her got it wrong: "She's a very lucky woman. Not only have we saved her leg, but she's alive," said Jaffer.

I'm thinking that should be: "Not only is she alive, but she's alive."  Because I can't think of a single thing the leg would be good for if she were dead.
 
2014-06-26 10:12:12 AM
That quote should read, "Not only is she alive, but we saved her leg."
 
2014-06-26 10:14:58 AM

Prey4reign: Because I can't think of a single thing the leg would be good for if she were dead.


You need a better imagination.
 
2014-06-26 10:16:24 AM
This happened to me. I even had the dead spider with me and the idiot Doctor told me it wasn't a spider bite. I had to go to a dermatologist to get treatment. Idiot family practice doctors are not helpful if you have anything but a sniffle.
 
2014-06-26 10:19:32 AM

Toy Boat: Muta: Toy Boat: King Something: ChipNASA: Muta: K3rmy: gopher321: JoieD'Zen: Nothing is worse than being bit by a recluse.

What about a bite from a recluse wombat?

Or a recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher?

Or a truckload of recluse wombat dressed like a clown that talks like Fran Drescher and has a BO problem with a live one in the middle trying to eat it's way out.

Or the Holocaust.

Or the Holocaust that leaves only Justin Bieber and his many fans alive.  And you.

I am very upset that my contribution got misquoted out.   ChipNASA better exercise caution when he starts his car.  It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow but expect something sometime.

... sidles quietly back into the saloon through the iconic swinging doors, and peers out into the dusty street, awaiting the inevitable standoff ...

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-26 10:20:43 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: This thread is just fine without pics, KTHANKXBYE.


niketalk.com

Tic tock..
 
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