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2014-06-26 07:42:04 AM  
10 votes:
Man with a gun shoots a criminal: Absolute justification for unrestricted global access to firearms.

Man with a gun shoots 20 5 year olds: Random isolated incident.
2014-06-26 12:24:35 AM  
8 votes:
I don't go to businesses that have no gun signs. I usually carry a gun.

I do go to the post office, but I can secure my gun in a locked compartment in my car. Few violent crimes in the Post Office, lots of violent crimes in stores and gas stations, and restaurants.

Businesses are free to make any rules regarding guns they wish. There are always other options for me.

I guess I'm a gun totin' zealot, but if I'm ever shot at again I want to be able to shoot back.
2014-06-26 07:38:53 AM  
6 votes:
I of course called Keith's Superstore in Lumberton, MS to find out what their logic was. Long story short, they were quite rude, and refused to answer any questions pertaining to this incident. Perhaps I should've asked why they didn't post a "No Knives" sign!

Yes, I'm sure he asked his questions in a non-rude manner.  That whole article is dripping with assholeishness.
2014-06-26 07:35:30 AM  
4 votes:

feckingmorons: I don't go to businesses that have no gun signs. I usually carry a gun.

I do go to the post office, but I can secure my gun in a locked compartment in my car. Few violent crimes in the Post Office, lots of violent crimes in stores and gas stations, and restaurants.

Businesses are free to make any rules regarding guns they wish. There are always other options for me.

I guess I'm a gun totin' zealot, but if I'm ever shot at again I want to be able to shoot back.


No you're a normal adult human who is making normal adult human decisions such as, "Oh shiat this store doesn't want me to carry inside, I guess I'll find somewhere else to spend my money."  Maybe a little paranoid but no more so than a guy in the suburbs putting motion sensor lights on all four corners of his house.
2014-06-26 11:51:24 AM  
3 votes:

Loreweaver: onyxruby: dookdookdook: Fair enough. How about we agree to begin by restricting gun ownership for psychotics, sociopaths, and admitted tea partiers

If someone is crazy enough they shouldn't have a gun than they are crazy enough to be locked in a mental ward as representing a danger to themselves or others. I'm no tea party sympathizer, but the idea of restricting rights based on political party affiliation strikes me as a very nazi like attitude.

Well, considering Tea Party members have demonstrated time and again that they are a danger to the public (good), I'd say it's pretty reasonable to restrict their access on the merits of mental illness.


Which ones do you consider tea party types?

Hell even the instigator of Feinsteins PTSD was not a tea party type. It was a democrat that killed Moscone and Milk.


Nidal Hasan - Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat and Muslim.
Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter - black liberal/Obama voter
Seung-Hui Cho - Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
James Holmes - the "Dark Knight"/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occupy guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas - Leftist Democrat
James J. Lee who was the "green activist"/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel - progressive liberal Democrat.
Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter - Leftist, Marxist.
Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters - families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat - killed Kennedy...
Karl Pierson, Hated the GOP, Christians and was anti gun. (the media even went back and scrubbed their articles where his friends and family described him as radical socialist)
2014-06-26 08:04:56 AM  
3 votes:

Tricky Chicken: But of course, this is all just because guns are bad.


Trust me, people around here don't see me as a "guns are bad" kind of person.  I'm just naturally curious about mentality of people who seem to be stuck in a state of hyper-vigilance to the point that it seems they seek out opportunities to defend themselves.  Not saying you're that type, but an awful lot of vocal "second-amentment rights advocates" seem to fit that mold.
2014-06-26 07:57:20 AM  
3 votes:

GoldSpider: feckingmorons: I guess I'm a gun totin' zealot, but if I'm ever shot at again I want to be able to shoot back.

It sounds like you frequently put yourself into places/situations where you fear you may be shot at.  I wonder why that is.


I was getting shot at in a 'secure' federal building in Washington DC a few months ago. The reason I frequent there is to get a paycheck.

This was also an act of an untreated mentally ill person.  If he were treated appropriately, he would still be alive, and so would several of my co-workers and friends. But of course, this is all just because guns are bad.
2014-06-26 07:40:11 AM  
3 votes:
Good for him! Props to the guy. Too bad people with CCW are far more likely to get killed or kill an innocent than stop an actual bad guy.
2014-06-26 09:41:08 AM  
2 votes:

GoldSpider: It sounds like you frequently put yourself into places/situations where you fear you may be shot at.  I wonder why that is.


Last time I faced off with people trying to kill me was in my driveway.  There was a huge storm during the day and the neighborhood lost power. So when I got home from work at about 10pm, I walked around the house looking for storm damage. When I came from the back yard in to the driveway and locked the gate behind me I started walking back to the front of my house, but I heard 2 guys yelling that they were going to kill me. They had chosen to take advantage of the blackout and the fact that all police and emergency services were busy handling traffic duty and storm issues to come kill whoever they thought I was.
They started backing me in to the corner between my house and my fence while I was trying to explain that I wasn't whoever they thought I was. They weren't listening, so I subtly unconcealed the gun on my him and grabbed it. As I was about to draw, the "back-up guy" (behind the truly angry man) must have saw what was about to happen, because he grabbed his friend by the shoulders and pulled him back, literally apologizing for the confusion and dragging his friend away.
Legally, I could have shot them both. They came on to my property, during a blackout, 2 to 1, for the stated purpose of killing me.
So are you saying I shouldn't frequent my own home?
I carry a gun because I'm not under the misunderstanding that I could rely on the police to help me in an emergency or that I might never have to face off with people trying to kill me for no reason.
2014-06-26 08:48:32 AM  
2 votes:
FreakyBunny:  Cheney and Bush broke international law and as a consequence over 100,000 people were killed.

The Iraq Resolution a/k/a The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 passed  the Senate 77 - 23 and House 297 - 133.  Just shy of 60% of Democrat Senators voted for it.
2014-06-26 07:42:45 AM  
2 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: So I'll be justified next the I carry my suitcase nuke with me?


Translation: I don't always herp. But when I do, I derp.
2014-06-26 07:32:14 AM  
2 votes:
So I'll be justified next the I carry my suitcase nuke with me?
2014-06-26 12:13:48 AM  
2 votes:
Sounds like a move by the upper management. I'll bet the manager who got stabbed would rather have that sign down. But then again, maybe it is a good idea because the gun totin' zealots might pop out of the woodwork.
2014-06-26 02:40:18 PM  
1 vote:

primarycolorman: Aforementioned ISIS just took over most of Iraqi with about 3,000 bubba's and an army/populace that didn't like the federal.


You are hilariously misinformed.
2014-06-26 02:08:34 PM  
1 vote:

rooftop235: Sounds like a move by the upper management. I'll bet the manager who got stabbed would rather have that sign down. But then again, maybe it is a good idea because the gun totin' zealots might pop out of the woodwork.


As a 'moderate' gun totin' zealot I can assure you that posting the sign is like waving a flag at a bull.

dualplains: Almost all. But you can insert the 'guns' into ALL the 'mass shootings', so, yeah. Guns are the problem.

/Why is this math so hard?


That's only because you're looking at 'mass shootings' and not 'mass killings'.  The largest mass killings in the country are traditionally all arson.  Using explosives is fairly rare in the country, but about as effective on average as a spree shooter.

Chummer45: So two guys suddenly became homicidal maniacs determined to murder a random stranger for no reason whatsoever, but then totally came to their senses when they realized you had a gun? I sense a whiff of bullshiat in the air.


1.  Who said they were 'homicidal maniacs'?  They could just be marginal psychopaths.
2.  They weren't after a random stranger, they got a random stranger
3.  Don't you remember all the stories about crooks running away when they hear a 12 gauge pump?  You're definitely smelling shiat, but it's not from a bull.

Chummer45: Fun fact: many gun stores and gun shows don't allow concealed or open carry of loaded guns.


True, but this is often imposed on them for liability purposes.  Last several I went to amounted to openly carried firearms needed to be locked open with a zip tie, and concealed firearms were not to be pulled unless there was a critical need.

You want armed though, visit a jewelry show.

squirrelflavoredyogurt: Since he was attacked successfully 5-6 times, I'd say he wasn't successful in stopping the attack. Since it says he "chased him down" I'd pretty much say it confirms he finished with the stabbing and left before he was "chased down". You don't chase down something that is standing still stabbing someone. Every verb in the article indicates that he, in no way, stopped the attack.


Stabbing somebody 5-6 times takes what, 2-3 seconds?  He could have seen the guy pulling the gun and decided to run, to which the CCW'er responded by chasing.  Doesn't mean that he didn't stop the attack.
2014-06-26 11:49:35 AM  
1 vote:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Chummer45:  But I am anti gun-culture/gun lobby.  The thing that I find so disturbing about the gun culture in the US is that it is something that was relatively recently invented and perpetuated by the gun industry's lobby, which prioritizes increasing and maximizing gun sales over safety.  Their lobbying record is proof of that.  But most gun nuts I talk to have no awareness of that fact, or are just willfully blind to it.  Instead of acknowledging that our gun laws need to be tightened up, they just go on talking about how any increased regulation is nothing less than a ploy by liberal gun grabbers who are going to get us all killed by disarming us.

You DO understand that no matter how great the restrictions placed on our Second Amendment rights, the anti-gun lobby will not be satisfied until all guns are banned, period, right?  We're talking BEYOND an Australian-style "turn them all in" type of gun control law. And while you seem to assume that the indignation against "tightening up" our gun laws is merely a result of the "gun industry's lobby", you're missing one "minor" fact...the NRA's political clout doesn't come from gun manufacturers, it comes from the fact that millions of Americans are "single issue voters" on the gun control issue.

Your position reminds me of this quote:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me."

With that in mind:  Fark you, Buddy...I don't care how many guns you own.  Your hypocrisy makes you worse than the hard-core "guns are evil, period, and nobody who isn't a government employee should ever have access to them" folks.  THEY at least have the balls to live up to their ideals and actually live with all of the implications of their positio ...



So because I own guns but I'm not a second amendment bullshiat spouting gun nut, that makes me a hypocrite?  I think you've just beautifully demonstrated why there is no reasoning with the second amendment crowd.  You can't even have a conversation about gun regulations without being accused of being a gun-grabbing hitler enthusiast.

And they say liberals are the ones who argue based on emotions rather than reason.....
2014-06-26 11:16:36 AM  
1 vote:
Here's a link to another article which suggests the CCW didn't STOP shiat, the manger was stabbed 5-6 times, the CCW just chased him down and held him at gunpoint until the cops arrived.

http://www.wdam.com/story/25019587/lumberton-stabbing-sends-store-ma na ger-to-hospital

Also, it wasn't a random bad guy out to stab someone, it was a disgruntled employee who was out stab specifically this guy.

I'd say the CCW was a minor help in the apprehension of the guy whom they probably would have caught anyway. If I were the manager I would have preferred the CCW call the police and get some pressure on my wounds as opposed to chasing the bad guy out of the store.

Of course if you have a gun your probably looking be the hero who stops the bad guy and not the person who helps keep the already bleeding from multiple stab wounds to the neck, chest, and arm guy alive.
2014-06-26 10:56:06 AM  
1 vote:

reillan: Noam Chimpsky: Do armed robbers even no how to read?

Are you an armed robber?


He said read, not write.
2014-06-26 10:40:06 AM  
1 vote:

Dog Welder: I of course called Keith's Superstore in Lumberton, MS to find out what their logic was. Long story short, they were quite rude, and refused to answer any questions pertaining to this incident. Perhaps I should've asked why they didn't post a "No Knives" sign!

Yes, I'm sure he asked his questions in a non-rude manner.  That whole article is dripping with assholeishness.


The story aside, that guys blogging is awful.

/glad the ccw guy stopped the stabbing
//the store can put the sign up. Its their property.
2014-06-26 10:30:46 AM  
1 vote:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Chummer45:  But I am anti gun-culture/gun lobby.  The thing that I find so disturbing about the gun culture in the US is that it is something that was relatively recently invented and perpetuated by the gun industry's lobby, which prioritizes increasing and maximizing gun sales over safety.  Their lobbying record is proof of that.  But most gun nuts I talk to have no awareness of that fact, or are just willfully blind to it.  Instead of acknowledging that our gun laws need to be tightened up, they just go on talking about how any increased regulation is nothing less than a ploy by liberal gun grabbers who are going to get us all killed by disarming us.

You DO understand that no matter how great the restrictions placed on our Second Amendment rights, the anti-gun lobby will not be satisfied until all guns are banned, period, right?  We're talking BEYOND an Australian-style "turn them all in" type of gun control law. And while you seem to assume that the indignation against "tightening up" our gun laws is merely a result of the "gun industry's lobby", you're missing one "minor" fact...the NRA's political clout doesn't come from gun manufacturers, it comes from the fact that millions of Americans are "single issue voters" on the gun control issue.

Your position reminds me of this quote:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me."

With that in mind:  Fark you, Buddy...I don't care how many guns you own.  Your hypocrisy makes you worse than the hard-core "guns are evil, period, and nobody who isn't a government employee should ever have access to them" folks.  THEY at least have the balls to live up to their ideals and actually live with all of the implications of their positio ...


So just to sum this up;

Safe storage laws == disarming the populace
Mandatory safety course == disarming the populace
background check == disarming the populace

Somebody should probably tell my government that because we have safe storage laws, mandatory safety courses, and background checks and yet somebody forgot to come take away my guns!

In other words, don't be stupid.
2014-06-26 10:22:59 AM  
1 vote:
Chummer45:  But I am anti gun-culture/gun lobby.  The thing that I find so disturbing about the gun culture in the US is that it is something that was relatively recently invented and perpetuated by the gun industry's lobby, which prioritizes increasing and maximizing gun sales over safety.  Their lobbying record is proof of that.  But most gun nuts I talk to have no awareness of that fact, or are just willfully blind to it.  Instead of acknowledging that our gun laws need to be tightened up, they just go on talking about how any increased regulation is nothing less than a ploy by liberal gun grabbers who are going to get us all killed by disarming us.

You DO understand that no matter how great the restrictions placed on our Second Amendment rights, the anti-gun lobby will not be satisfied until all guns are banned, period, right?  We're talking BEYOND an Australian-style "turn them all in" type of gun control law. And while you seem to assume that the indignation against "tightening up" our gun laws is merely a result of the "gun industry's lobby", you're missing one "minor" fact...the NRA's political clout doesn't come from gun manufacturers, it comes from the fact that millions of Americans are "single issue voters" on the gun control issue.

Your position reminds me of this quote:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me."

With that in mind:  Fark you, Buddy...I don't care how many guns you own.  Your hypocrisy makes you worse than the hard-core "guns are evil, period, and nobody who isn't a government employee should ever have access to them" folks.  THEY at least have the balls to live up to their ideals and actually live with all of the implications of their position.
2014-06-26 10:16:33 AM  
1 vote:

Rhino_man: The businesses are free to decide whether or not to allow guns


Actually no they aren't, did you notice the big CHEVRON logo in the first picture? Lawyers and Insurance Underwriters decide what the business is allowed to do. They make a demand and you bow down and say "Yes Master" or you go out of business.

But on a lighter note: Spend a day at the range with an instructor, learn a little bit about the law and shoot a few targets, pay a few bucks for the little red sticker on the back of your permit and those stupid little "ROB ME" signs become mere suggestions for the normal honest person just like they are for criminals and lunatics.

dualplains: Tricky Chicken: dookdookdook: Man with a gun shoots a criminal: Absolute justification for unrestricted global access to firearms.

Man Known lunatic with access to a legally purchased gun that no proposed restrictions would have made illegal shoots 20 5 year olds: Random isolated incident.

Just a little clarification.  You can insert the 'person with documented mental problems' into almost all the mass shootings, but guns are the problem not neglecting mentally ill people.

Almost all.  But you can insert the 'guns' into ALL the 'mass shootings', so, yeah.  Guns are the problem.

/Why is this math so hard?


Because you try too hard to massage the language to arrive at a predetermined result. The school massacre that claimed the most lives involved fire and bombs, no Guns. The largest Terrorist Attack in the US involved Airplanes and knives, no Guns. The Boston Marathon, bomb (stolen gun after the attack).

So yeah, I suspect that every "shooting" involves a gun,
and liquids are involved in every drowning
and vehicles are involved in every vehicular accident
and fire and smoke are involved in every arson
and every snake bite involved a snake
andevery bear attack involved a bear.

Since there are more guns in the US than there are people and we still manage to have a population I suspect that most people who own them know how to properly and safely own and use them. Except for a few Liberal Utopias, both violent crime (with and without a gun) and firearms related accidents have decreased to the lowest level in decades according to both the DOJ and the FBI despite the Liberalization of gun laws across the country.
2014-06-26 09:59:11 AM  
1 vote:

LazyMedia: Chummer45: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Rhino_man: The people who AREN'T reasonable are the open carry farkwits who lose their mind and act like spoiled children when a business tells them not to carry.

Most of the "open carry farkwits" I've heard about don't go into businesses that have "no guns" signs up, they merely publicize the fact that such stores have banned them from being armed.  This upsets the stores in question, since lots of gun owners are quite willing to boycott such stores.  Hell, I STILL will not own a S&W product due to S&W's former owner's actions during the '90s.  Sure, ownership has changed hands, but if a company tries to fark with my rights by publicly fellating our common enemies, their "brand" is forever tainted, and I'm not alone in this.  Same deal with Ruger.


Yes - Smith and Wesson was definitely the equivalent of Stalin for supporting reasonable gun regulations, and should be vilified as the traitor to our god-given rights to buy Smith and Wesson products with minimal regulation that it is.

But you don't understand. They were selling TRIGGER LOCKS with all their pistols. TRIGGER LOCKS. Greatest threat to our Constitutional rights since the Alien & Sedition Acts of 1798.


The S&W trigger locks that were built into the gun, have serious design flaws that are very dangerous.
2014-06-26 09:51:23 AM  
1 vote:

LazyMedia: Chummer45: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Rhino_man: The people who AREN'T reasonable are the open carry farkwits who lose their mind and act like spoiled children when a business tells them not to carry.

Most of the "open carry farkwits" I've heard about don't go into businesses that have "no guns" signs up, they merely publicize the fact that such stores have banned them from being armed.  This upsets the stores in question, since lots of gun owners are quite willing to boycott such stores.  Hell, I STILL will not own a S&W product due to S&W's former owner's actions during the '90s.  Sure, ownership has changed hands, but if a company tries to fark with my rights by publicly fellating our common enemies, their "brand" is forever tainted, and I'm not alone in this.  Same deal with Ruger.


Yes - Smith and Wesson was definitely the equivalent of Stalin for supporting reasonable gun regulations, and should be vilified as the traitor to our god-given rights to buy Smith and Wesson products with minimal regulation that it is.

But you don't understand. They were selling TRIGGER LOCKS with all their pistols. TRIGGER LOCKS. Greatest threat to our Constitutional rights since the Alien & Sedition Acts of 1798.



How DARE S&W try to make their products safer around children!!??  How DARE S&W admit that its products are actually pretty dangerous and must be handled and stored responsibly? Monsters.
2014-06-26 09:41:15 AM  
1 vote:

cherryl taggart: Years ago, I was married to a "if I can't have you, no one can" type.  So, my lawyer strongly encourage me to get trained, and get a CCW permit.  I did, and have kept it current, even though I haven't carried in years.

I later worked at a place that had a stranger on employee assault prior to my getting hired.  I was issued a manual that said no weapons would be tolerated.  Instead, we were given emergency alert buttons that have a range that supposedly extended to the parking lot.  If we felt threatened, we were to hit the panic buttons and the cops would show up.  After several situations in the parking lots, in which the cops did not arrive, we were told to leave our buttons inside when leaving,  All of this because the insurance company liability issues.  Most everybody that wasn't management started carrying a variety of items that could double as a weapon.  It was surreal.


I was, at one time, employed as a cashier in a grocery store and while there I primarily worked third shift hours.

I was informed one day that another third-shift employee had been assaulted, struck and robbed by a customer.

Evidently, she asked if carrying pepper spray would be permissible. Reportedly, she was told that doing so was forbidden. She later resigned.

I purchased a canister of pepper spray and I began carrying it in a way that kept it visibly hanging from my pocket at all times. I never asked permission. No one said anything about it.

/Even after an incident of a pepper spray release in the produce department.
//I was nowhere nearby at the time.
2014-06-26 09:35:30 AM  
1 vote:
CSB:

I worked with a boss who told me that if we ever were getting robbed, under NO circumstances was anyone to hit the silent alarm while the robbers were there.  His reasoning is that the cops were going to be coming in with their guns drawn, the robbers already have their guns out, and we were the ones either getting hit in the crossfire or taken hostage.

/Just give them the money as quickly and politely as possible
2014-06-26 09:34:43 AM  
1 vote:
Years ago, I was married to a "if I can't have you, no one can" type.  So, my lawyer strongly encourage me to get trained, and get a CCW permit.  I did, and have kept it current, even though I haven't carried in years.

I later worked at a place that had a stranger on employee assault prior to my getting hired.  I was issued a manual that said no weapons would be tolerated.  Instead, we were given emergency alert buttons that have a range that supposedly extended to the parking lot.  If we felt threatened, we were to hit the panic buttons and the cops would show up.  After several situations in the parking lots, in which the cops did not arrive, we were told to leave our buttons inside when leaving,  All of this because the insurance company liability issues.  Most everybody that wasn't management started carrying a variety of items that could double as a weapon.  It was surreal.
2014-06-26 09:27:27 AM  
1 vote:

onzmadi: feckingmorons: I don't go to businesses that have no gun signs. I usually carry a gun.

I do go to the post office, but I can secure my gun in a locked compartment in my car. Few violent crimes in the Post Office, lots of violent crimes in stores and gas stations, and restaurants.

Businesses are free to make any rules regarding guns they wish. There are always other options for me.

I guess I'm a gun totin' zealot, but if I'm ever shot at again I want to be able to shoot back.

sorry about your penis


Your psychological obsession with feckingmoron's genitals is not an appropriate subject for this discussion.
2014-06-26 09:22:30 AM  
1 vote:

Chummer45: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Rhino_man: The people who AREN'T reasonable are the open carry farkwits who lose their mind and act like spoiled children when a business tells them not to carry.

Most of the "open carry farkwits" I've heard about don't go into businesses that have "no guns" signs up, they merely publicize the fact that such stores have banned them from being armed.  This upsets the stores in question, since lots of gun owners are quite willing to boycott such stores.  Hell, I STILL will not own a S&W product due to S&W's former owner's actions during the '90s.  Sure, ownership has changed hands, but if a company tries to fark with my rights by publicly fellating our common enemies, their "brand" is forever tainted, and I'm not alone in this.  Same deal with Ruger.


Yes - Smith and Wesson was definitely the equivalent of Stalin for supporting reasonable gun regulations, and should be vilified as the traitor to our god-given rights to buy Smith and Wesson products with minimal regulation that it is.


But you don't understand. They were selling TRIGGER LOCKS with all their pistols. TRIGGER LOCKS. Greatest threat to our Constitutional rights since the Alien & Sedition Acts of 1798.
2014-06-26 09:21:47 AM  
1 vote:

Dog Welder: I of course called Keith's Superstore in Lumberton, MS to find out what their logic was. Long story short, they were quite rude, and refused to answer any questions pertaining to this incident. Perhaps I should've asked why they didn't post a "No Knives" sign!

Yes, I'm sure he asked his questions in a non-rude manner.  That whole article is dripping with assholeishness.


He also plays fast and loose with the facts- the article claims that the stabbing was stopped by civilian carrying a concealed weapon- but the local news states that "he chased down" the assailant and held him at gun point until the cops arrived, not that he stopped the assault.  http://www.wdam.com/story/25019587/lumberton-stabbing-sends-store-man a ger-to-hospital
2014-06-26 09:14:33 AM  
1 vote:

Chummer45: Yes - Smith and Wesson was definitely the equivalent of Stalin for supporting reasonable gun regulations, and should be vilified as the traitor to our god-given rights to buy Smith and Wesson products with minimal regulation that it is.


Um, no.  S&W was willing to sell out it's customer base in exchange for preferential treatment in procuring government contracts.  As a member of it's customer base, I have the right to tell S&W to DIAF and take my money elsewhere.  Same deal with Bill Ruger's willingness to go along with the anti-gunners in banning standard-capacity semi-auto magazines because, at the time, his business was mostly revolvers.
2014-06-26 09:09:07 AM  
1 vote:

Tricky Chicken: dookdookdook: being a right wing militia goon qualifies as a documented mental problem?

I am not sure about 'documented, but the suggestion/argument has merits.


And people wonder why there's such opposition to laws restricting the rights of the mentally ill to own firearms?

/Remembers when homosexuality was removed as a mental illness from the DSM in '73
2014-06-26 08:35:32 AM  
1 vote:
http://www.wdam.com/story/25019587/lumberton-stabbing-sends-store-man a ger-to-hospital

So according the the only actual article I can find on the original incident (that isn't a post on a gun-nut site), the CCW guy didn't "stop" anything. He let the manager get stabbed half to death and then just chased down the perp after the fact and held him at gunpoint. The gun didn't prevent anything other than saving the cops a few hours in locating the attacker.
2014-06-26 08:30:45 AM  
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cwolf20: Since some voters who vote Democrat carry concealed or just have weapons in their house.  You just called your fellow armed voters psychotics and sociopaths. Or you insulted them by calling them Tea Partiers


Do you see what your brain did there subconsciously?

I - a liberal - put forth a gun control idea that was definitively not "ban all guns ever", yet your brain still heard "THAT DIRTY LIB'S TRYIN TO GRAB ALL OUR GUNS!"  The only logical explanation must be that I was equating "psychotics, sociopaths, and teabaggers" with "all gun owners everywhere, even democrats", otherwise how could I possibly fit the liberal stereotype you have burned into your mind?
2014-06-26 08:25:02 AM  
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onyxruby: I'm no tea party sympathizer, but the idea of restricting rights based on political party affiliation strikes me as a very nazi like attitude.


"Tea Party" != "Republican".  They'll be the first to tell you that.

Anyway, the fact that hoarding guns and calling for armed revolution against government employees and fantasizing about solving all of life's problems like you're Marshall Dillon mowing down criminal scum are defining characteristics of Tea Partiers is purely coincidental.  Saying "Tea Partiers" is just simpler.
2014-06-26 08:19:13 AM  
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Egoy3k: Maybe a little paranoid but no more so than a guy in the suburbs putting motion sensor lights on all four corners of his house.


Because carrying a loaded weapon around is exactly like turning your outside houselights on at night.

Gun Nut Logic
2014-06-26 08:16:14 AM  
1 vote:
Ima let you gun nuts finish jacking, but what if you are seated with your family at your fave Chick-fil-a and 5 black men open the door and walk in with AK-47s. Do you:
A) Flip over the table and start trading shots
B) shrug your shoulders and begrudge them their god givn rights to open carry
C) slink out the back while speed dialing the po po
2014-06-26 08:15:34 AM  
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dookdookdook: Fair enough. How about we agree to begin by restricting gun ownership for psychotics, sociopaths, and admitted tea partiers


If someone is crazy enough they shouldn't have a gun than they are crazy enough to be locked in a mental ward as representing a danger to themselves or others. I'm no tea party sympathizer, but the idea of restricting rights based on political party affiliation strikes me as a very nazi like attitude.
2014-06-26 08:10:40 AM  
1 vote:
What barbarians, who goes anywhere without several guns these days? They seem to forget we live in a *VERY* dangerous country, there are crazy people with guns around.
2014-06-26 08:10:07 AM  
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Tricky Chicken: FirstNationalBastard: So I'll be justified next the I carry my suitcase nuke with me?

Translation: I don't always herp. But when I do, I derp.


Hey, I'm not paranoid enough to think I have to be packing to go buy a carton of milk.

Obviously, that's Derpy now.
2014-06-26 08:01:09 AM  
1 vote:

White_Scarf_Syndrome: "OMG why do you carry a pistol in the car? With your son too??"
"You see all these homeless people on every single corner?"
"Well yeah, they need help.."
"When they are banging on my window my only option is to point it at them or pull forward into the intersection and get t-boned.  What would you do?"
"...."


Banging on your window is not life threatening and is no reason to pull a gun.  Don't pull a gun unless you plan to USE it.  I recommend option C - be uncomfortable for a few seconds.
2014-06-26 07:54:02 AM  
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reillan: Noam Chimpsky: Do armed robbers even no how to read?

Are you an armed robber?


The government changed it before I hit the send button.
2014-06-26 07:52:14 AM  
1 vote:

feckingmorons: I guess I'm a gun totin' zealot, but if I'm ever shot at again I want to be able to shoot back.


It sounds like you frequently put yourself into places/situations where you fear you may be shot at.  I wonder why that is.
2014-06-26 07:49:42 AM  
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feckingmorons: I don't go to businesses that have no gun signs. I usually carry a gun.

I do go to the post office, but I can secure my gun in a locked compartment in my car. Few violent crimes in the Post Office, lots of violent crimes in stores and gas stations, and restaurants.

Businesses are free to make any rules regarding guns they wish. There are always other options for me.

I guess I'm a gun totin' zealot, but if I'm ever shot at again I want to be able to shoot back.


I'm a little amused by the mention of a post office since the whole "shoot 'em all up" thing was originally called "going postal".
2014-06-26 07:47:10 AM  
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dookdookdook: Man with a gun shoots a criminal: Absolute justification for unrestricted global access to firearms.

Man Known lunatic with access to a legally purchased gun that no proposed restrictions would have made illegal shoots 20 5 year olds: Random isolated incident.


Just a little clarification.  You can insert the 'person with documented mental problems' into almost all the mass shootings, but guns are the problem not neglecting mentally ill people.
2014-06-26 07:43:44 AM  
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steve_as: Good for him! Props to the guy. Too bad people with CCW are far more likely to get killed or kill an innocent than stop an actual bad guy.


You have any stats to backup that statement?
2014-06-26 07:42:30 AM  
1 vote:
This is completely fake as I have been assured this scenario never happens.
2014-06-26 07:41:29 AM  
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Egoy3k: feckingmorons: I don't go to businesses that have no gun signs. I usually carry a gun.

I do go to the post office, but I can secure my gun in a locked compartment in my car. Few violent crimes in the Post Office, lots of violent crimes in stores and gas stations, and restaurants.

Businesses are free to make any rules regarding guns they wish. There are always other options for me.

I guess I'm a gun totin' zealot, but if I'm ever shot at again I want to be able to shoot back.

No you're a normal adult human who is making normal adult human decisions such as, "Oh shiat this store doesn't want me to carry inside, I guess I'll find somewhere else to spend my money."  Maybe a little paranoid but no more so than a guy in the suburbs putting motion sensor lights on all four corners of his house.


This. The businesses are free to decide whether or not to allow guns, and you're free to decide whether or not your (presumably concealed) carry piece is worth the hassle of finding a competing business to do what you need done.

The people who AREN'T reasonable are the open carry farkwits who lose their mind and act like spoiled children when a business tells them not to carry.

Just don't be a farkwit. It's really not hard to understand.
2014-06-26 07:39:00 AM  
1 vote:
Another responsible gun owner.
 
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