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(Some Guy)   Not News: Store posts no guns allowed sign. News: After manager was stabbed in an assault. Fark: The stabbing was stopped by a civilian with a CCW   (buzzpo.com) divider line 377
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2014-06-26 08:11:01 AM  
Cheese and rice. Two cups of coffee and I still can't spell "weapons."
 
2014-06-26 08:11:46 AM  
Cynical view, if an employee is injured on the job the company has to pay for their injuries and related expenses. If an employee instead dies on the job than the company can profit through a dead peasant life insurance policy.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-employers-collect-insurance-when-wor ke rs-die/
 
2014-06-26 08:12:24 AM  
socoloco:How is the government any better than a criminal that kills indiscriminately for false ideals, manufactures evidence and shiats on not only it's own laws, but the Geneva Convention's? Who then shiats on the veterans that fought wars for the political gain of a small elite class of people and called it "Honor and Duty."

Hey, if it were up to me (and most of the rest of the civilized world) Cheney and Bush would be about 10 years into their 40 year prison sentences as we speak.

Or is this more "a Bubba with a hunting rifle can keep the US Marines in check because liberty and freedom and guerrilla warfare and such"?
 
2014-06-26 08:12:50 AM  

abhorrent1: dookdookdook: Man with a gun shoots a criminal: Absolute justification for unrestricted global access to firearms.

Man with a gun shoots 20 5 year olds: Random isolated incident.

ko_kyi: To paraphrase another Farker, guns are tools of murder, pure and simple, and as such only belong in the hands of the government.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational ... I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Both of those statements are succinct and straight forward. The second one is sarcastic, but it isn't in any way difficult to understand.

References are lots of fun, but the words in them still have meanings.
 
2014-06-26 08:12:53 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Hopefully the irresponsible gun owner is banned from those stores in the future.


What about irresponsible knife owners?
 
2014-06-26 08:13:46 AM  

GoldSpider: Intentionally ironic?


this
 
2014-06-26 08:13:58 AM  

hasty ambush: HotWingConspiracy: Hopefully the irresponsible gun owner is banned from those stores in the future.

What about irresponsible knife owners?


There was no knife sign.
 
2014-06-26 08:15:34 AM  

dookdookdook: Fair enough. How about we agree to begin by restricting gun ownership for psychotics, sociopaths, and admitted tea partiers


If someone is crazy enough they shouldn't have a gun than they are crazy enough to be locked in a mental ward as representing a danger to themselves or others. I'm no tea party sympathizer, but the idea of restricting rights based on political party affiliation strikes me as a very nazi like attitude.
 
2014-06-26 08:16:14 AM  
Ima let you gun nuts finish jacking, but what if you are seated with your family at your fave Chick-fil-a and 5 black men open the door and walk in with AK-47s. Do you:
A) Flip over the table and start trading shots
B) shrug your shoulders and begrudge them their god givn rights to open carry
C) slink out the back while speed dialing the po po
 
2014-06-26 08:16:40 AM  
Hell, if that picture in the FTA is the store, and that is the sign, you could still carry in there.

 MS § 45-9-101. License to carry stun gun, concealed pistol or revolver

 ...In addition to the places enumerated in this subsection, the carrying of a stun gun, concealed pistol or revolver may be disallowed in any place in the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of such place by the placing of a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that the "carrying of a pistol or revolver is prohibited."

Would I carry in there?  No, I'm not that kind of jackass, and would respect the rights of the Property holder, by not frequenting that establishment, or stowing it in the lockbox if I must. Those kinds of jackasses that would carry since the sign doesn't matter do exist though.
 
2014-06-26 08:16:47 AM  

GoldSpider: Intentionally ironic?  Accidentally true?  Both?  Poe is letting me down on this one.


BTW I have you flagged as "mimics hardcore lefty for effect"
 
2014-06-26 08:18:14 AM  

abhorrent1: It's concealed. How would they know? And even if they did find out, other than kick you out what can they do? Could you be arrested? I mean, it's a store policy not a law.


Seems to me that the sign explicitly says that if a person is in posession of a gun then they're disallowed on the premises.  By logic, any person who comes into the business carrying one would automatically be trespassing.  Take into account the legal classification of the weapon and it seems that the situation would be elevated to trespass with a firearm.

Not a lawyer by any means, but i think it'd work something like that.
 
2014-06-26 08:18:50 AM  

Elzar: Ima let you gun nuts finish jacking, but what if you are seated with your family at your fave Chick-fil-a and 5 black men open the door and walk in with AK-47s. Do you:
A) Flip over the table and start trading shots
B) shrug your shoulders and begrudge them their god givn rights to open carry
C) slink out the back while speed dialing the po po


mestadelsbilder.files.wordpress.com

Who needs a gun when you have a wookie.
 
2014-06-26 08:19:13 AM  

Egoy3k: Maybe a little paranoid but no more so than a guy in the suburbs putting motion sensor lights on all four corners of his house.


Because carrying a loaded weapon around is exactly like turning your outside houselights on at night.

Gun Nut Logic
 
2014-06-26 08:19:34 AM  

skozlaw: Elzar: Ima let you gun nuts finish jacking, but what if you are seated with your family at your fave Chick-fil-a and 5 black men open the door and walk in with AK-47s. Do you:
A) Flip over the table and start trading shots
B) shrug your shoulders and begrudge them their god givn rights to open carry
C) slink out the back while speed dialing the po po



Who needs a gun when you have a wookie.


But what if your wookie is bent?
 
2014-06-26 08:19:47 AM  

THX 1138: Seems to me that the sign explicitly says that if a person is in posession of a gun then they're disallowed on the premises.  By logic, any person who comes into the business carrying one would automatically be trespassing.  Take into account the legal classification of the weapon and it seems that the situation would be elevated to trespass with a firearm.

Not a lawyer by any means, but i think it'd work something like that.


I believe these business policies are rooted in requirements of the place's insurance, in an effort to manage liability.
 
2014-06-26 08:20:12 AM  

ko_kyi: BTW I have you flagged as "mimics hardcore lefty for effect"


That's a new one.
 
2014-06-26 08:22:01 AM  

onyxruby: Cynical view, if an employee is injured on the job the company has to pay for their injuries and related expenses. If an employee instead dies on the job than the company can profit through a dead peasant life insurance policy.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-employers-collect-insurance-when-wor ke rs-die/


Cynical response:  Ah, now it makes sense why they're banning guns.  If the employee had been stabbed enough, he/she would be dead.
 
2014-06-26 08:23:52 AM  

onyxruby: dookdookdook: Fair enough. How about we agree to begin by restricting gun ownership for psychotics, sociopaths, and admitted tea partiers

If someone is crazy enough they shouldn't have a gun than they are crazy enough to be locked in a mental ward as representing a danger to themselves or others. I'm no tea party sympathizer, but the idea of restricting rights based on political party affiliation strikes me as a very nazi like attitude.


Since some voters who vote Democrat carry concealed or just have weapons in their house.  You just called your fellow armed voters psychotics and sociopaths. Or you insulted them by calling them Tea Partiers
 
2014-06-26 08:25:02 AM  

onyxruby: I'm no tea party sympathizer, but the idea of restricting rights based on political party affiliation strikes me as a very nazi like attitude.


"Tea Party" != "Republican".  They'll be the first to tell you that.

Anyway, the fact that hoarding guns and calling for armed revolution against government employees and fantasizing about solving all of life's problems like you're Marshall Dillon mowing down criminal scum are defining characteristics of Tea Partiers is purely coincidental.  Saying "Tea Partiers" is just simpler.
 
2014-06-26 08:29:08 AM  

Tricky Chicken: GoldSpider: feckingmorons: I guess I'm a gun totin' zealot, but if I'm ever shot at again I want to be able to shoot back.

It sounds like you frequently put yourself into places/situations where you fear you may be shot at.  I wonder why that is.

I was getting shot at in a 'secure' federal building in Washington DC a few months ago. The reason I frequent there is to get a paycheck.

This was also an act of an untreated mentally ill person.  If he were treated appropriately, he would still be alive, and so would several of my co-workers and friends. But of course, this is all just because guns are bad.


Oh snap!!!
 
2014-06-26 08:30:45 AM  

cwolf20: Since some voters who vote Democrat carry concealed or just have weapons in their house.  You just called your fellow armed voters psychotics and sociopaths. Or you insulted them by calling them Tea Partiers


Do you see what your brain did there subconsciously?

I - a liberal - put forth a gun control idea that was definitively not "ban all guns ever", yet your brain still heard "THAT DIRTY LIB'S TRYIN TO GRAB ALL OUR GUNS!"  The only logical explanation must be that I was equating "psychotics, sociopaths, and teabaggers" with "all gun owners everywhere, even democrats", otherwise how could I possibly fit the liberal stereotype you have burned into your mind?
 
2014-06-26 08:32:00 AM  
dookdookdook:

Hey, if it were up to me (and most of the rest of the civilized world) Cheney and Bush would be about 10 years into their 40 year prison sentences as we speak.

Or is this more "a Bubba with a hunting rifle can keep the US Marines in check because liberty and freedom and guerrilla warfare and such"?


All of this. Cheney and Bush broke international law and as a consequence over 100,000 people were killed. As if that wasn't not bad enough, all the work they did is being undone by a few thousand thugs who are taking over the country whose freedom only cost them 1.7 trillion dollars, and over 5,000 American lives. How do these guys get a pass? Is it that the scale of these atrocities are so utterly incomprehensible?

A thousand Bubbas couldn't withstand the might of the American Army. The thought that a few guys with rifles could do much damage to a drone or an Apache is absurd. The whole "we gotta protecer erseffs from the guvernment" doesn't wash.
 
2014-06-26 08:32:51 AM  

dookdookdook: Man with a gun shoots a criminal: Absolute justification for unrestricted global access to firearms.

Man with a gun shoots 20 5 year olds: Random isolated incident.



That's a bingo!
 
2014-06-26 08:33:03 AM  

thedumbone: White_Scarf_Syndrome: "OMG why do you carry a pistol in the car? With your son too??"
"You see all these homeless people on every single corner?"
"Well yeah, they need help.."
"When they are banging on my window my only option is to point it at them or pull forward into the intersection and get t-boned.  What would you do?"
"...."

Banging on your window is not life threatening and is no reason to pull a gun.  Don't pull a gun unless you plan to USE it.  I recommend option C - be uncomfortable for a few seconds.


I've never had to actually point it.  He saw that I was reaching and backed off.

Normally I do just sit and "be uncomfortable", but that is usually when I'm alone.  When I have my son I get a little Mama Bear thing going on.  You don't know what it's like until you live in this farking town.  It is almost quite literally EVERY intersection has some person there begging.
 
2014-06-26 08:33:45 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: White_Scarf_Syndrome: "OMG why do you carry a pistol in the car? With your son too??"
"You see all these homeless people on every single corner?"
"Well yeah, they need help.."
"When they are banging on my window my only option is to point it at them or pull forward into the intersection and get t-boned.  What would you do?"
"...."

Where the fark do you live?


That's not uncommon in south Florida, I've had them pull on the door handle (locked). We have one loon that walks toward traffic in the middle lane of US1 (6 lanes). yelling at the voices in his head. He's been around a couple of years now. One day he did a stunt dive in front of my truck, I swerved and missed. Most of the people I know are CCW permit holders and you would never be aware of it. It's just the way things are.
 
2014-06-26 08:35:23 AM  

dookdookdook: cwolf20: Since some voters who vote Democrat carry concealed or just have weapons in their house.  You just called your fellow armed voters psychotics and sociopaths. Or you insulted them by calling them Tea Partiers

Do you see what your brain did there subconsciously?

I - a liberal - put forth a gun control idea that was definitively not "ban all guns ever", yet your brain still heard "THAT DIRTY LIB'S TRYIN TO GRAB ALL OUR GUNS!"  The only logical explanation must be that I was equating "psychotics, sociopaths, and teabaggers" with "all gun owners everywhere, even democrats", otherwise how could I possibly fit the liberal stereotype you have burned into your mind?



The lizard brain hears what it wants to hear.
 
2014-06-26 08:35:32 AM  
http://www.wdam.com/story/25019587/lumberton-stabbing-sends-store-man a ger-to-hospital

So according the the only actual article I can find on the original incident (that isn't a post on a gun-nut site), the CCW guy didn't "stop" anything. He let the manager get stabbed half to death and then just chased down the perp after the fact and held him at gunpoint. The gun didn't prevent anything other than saving the cops a few hours in locating the attacker.
 
2014-06-26 08:37:38 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: White_Scarf_Syndrome: "OMG why do you carry a pistol in the car? With your son too??"
"You see all these homeless people on every single corner?"
"Well yeah, they need help.."
"When they are banging on my window my only option is to point it at them or pull forward into the intersection and get t-boned.  What would you do?"
"...."

Where the fark do you live?


The capital of Texas has a ridiculous homeless policy.  There are people on almost every single highway intersection begging.  Walking up and down the red lights with some sign.  Some dog or puppy they have trained.  I'm not an anti-homeless person, but it's just too much, and I don't trust them.  They are clearly mentally unstable and I have no problem carrying a pistol on my front seat when I have my son.  I have had them just completely go off for no reason other than me ignoring them, waving hi, saying sorry no cash, stopping too quickly, stopping too slowly, "almost" hitting them when they are walking in the street on an interstate highway, the list goes on and on.

But yeah, I'm supposed to just sit there and "be uncomfortable for a few minutes."

fark that.  It wears on you when it's several times a day every single day.  I like it here but there are some really really screwed up things about Austin.  Also the hipsters.  Don't even get me started.
 
2014-06-26 08:39:00 AM  

cwolf20: Since some voters who vote Democrat carry concealed or just have weapons in their house. You just called your fellow armed voters psychotics and sociopaths. Or you insulted them by calling them Tea Partiers


What color is the sky in your world? Your response is completely incoherent and at best only vaguely related to what I wrote. I sure as hell never called anyone a psychopath or a sociopath. I certainly didn't call anyone a Tea Partier and in fact said I'm not a sympathizer of theirs. I never said anything about democrats and I sure as hell didn't say anything about voting.

You have jumped the shark so far I'm not sure if getting back on your meds would do you any good.
 
2014-06-26 08:39:34 AM  

skozlaw: Elzar: Ima let you gun nuts finish jacking, but what if you are seated with your family at your fave Chick-fil-a and 5 black men open the door and walk in with AK-47s. Do you:
A) Flip over the table and start trading shots
B) shrug your shoulders and begrudge them their god givn rights to open carry
C) slink out the back while speed dialing the po po

[mestadelsbilder.files.wordpress.com image 850x768]

Who needs a gun when you have a wookie.


I had one, but then I bent it...

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-26 08:40:40 AM  

Rav Tokomi: The gun didn't prevent anything other than saving the cops a few hours in locating the attacker.


Since guns are just inanimate objects that don't kill people, people kill people, we can surmise there are zero gun deaths every year in America. Meanwhile, knives kill hundreds of people. If that gun hadn't taken it upon itself to chase down that attacker, that knife could have gone on a rampage and caused untold carnage. That proves, with the maths, that guns save lives.

QED, lib.

Q.E. Farking. D.
 
2014-06-26 08:41:08 AM  
it occurs to me, that every growed-up has the capacity for protecting themselves.
so if someone finds guns scary, that's absolutely fine
or if they trust in their government enough to only want them to have the guns..that's great also
I vow not to waste sympathy if a bad person does something to them, or their family.

darwin
 
2014-06-26 08:42:27 AM  
Did anyone notice this article is bullshiat?

For sourcing, we have: "I of course called Keith's Superstore in Lumberton, MS to find out what their logic was. Long story short, they were quite rude, and refused to answer any questions pertaining to this incident. "

The also credit Mississippi Gun News with providing content for the article. So, can we have a link to their article, which presumably shows its sources? Um, sorry, just a link to their website, no specific article.

In other words: this story could very well be made up.
 
2014-06-26 08:43:00 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: So I'll be justified next the I carry my suitcase nuke with me?


One day idiots will learn the difference between arms and ordnance. One day...
 
2014-06-26 08:43:39 AM  
The wording of the headline says a lot about subby, methinks.
 
2014-06-26 08:45:12 AM  

dookdookdook: onyxruby: I'm no tea party sympathizer, but the idea of restricting rights based on political party affiliation strikes me as a very nazi like attitude.

"Tea Party" != "Republican".  They'll be the first to tell you that.

Anyway, the fact that hoarding guns and calling for armed revolution against government employees and fantasizing about solving all of life's problems like you're Marshall Dillon mowing down criminal scum are defining characteristics of Tea Partiers is purely coincidental.  Saying "Tea Partiers" is just simpler.


Want to know why gun legislation that limits access to guns based on a prior history of mental illness will never pass in America?

:: holds up mirror ::

It's because of people like you! Congratulations!
 
2014-06-26 08:45:35 AM  

Tricky Chicken: dookdookdook: Man with a gun shoots a criminal: Absolute justification for unrestricted global access to firearms.

Man Known lunatic with access to a legally purchased gun that no proposed restrictions would have made illegal shoots 20 5 year olds: Random isolated incident.

Just a little clarification.  You can insert the 'person with documented mental problems' into almost all the mass shootings, but guns are the problem not neglecting mentally ill people.


Almost all.  But you can insert the 'guns' into ALL the 'mass shootings', so, yeah.  Guns are the problem.

/Why is this math so hard?
 
2014-06-26 08:45:43 AM  

GoldSpider: Tricky Chicken: But of course, this is all just because guns are bad.

Trust me, people around here don't see me as a "guns are bad" kind of person.  I'm just naturally curious about mentality of people who seem to be stuck in a state of hyper-vigilance to the point that it seems they seek out opportunities to defend themselves.  Not saying you're that type, but an awful lot of vocal "second-amentment rights advocates" seem to fit that mold.


Just the ones you see on television. There are millions of us walking around with guns everyday that you never know exist.
 
2014-06-26 08:45:58 AM  
All they needed was one of these signs:
img.fark.net
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-26 08:47:52 AM  

MyRandomName: FirstNationalBastard: So I'll be justified next the I carry my suitcase nuke with me?

One day idiots will learn the difference between arms and ordnance. One day...



You had to find some way to make that whole second amendment language fit with what you want it to mean, right?
 
2014-06-26 08:48:28 AM  

Geoff Peterson: The wording of the headline says a lot about subby, methinks.


Smells like ham and coon skin cap, to me.
 
2014-06-26 08:48:32 AM  
FreakyBunny:  Cheney and Bush broke international law and as a consequence over 100,000 people were killed.

The Iraq Resolution a/k/a The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 passed  the Senate 77 - 23 and House 297 - 133.  Just shy of 60% of Democrat Senators voted for it.
 
2014-06-26 08:49:50 AM  

Rhino_man: The people who AREN'T reasonable are the open carry farkwits who lose their mind and act like spoiled children when a business tells them not to carry.


Most of the "open carry farkwits" I've heard about don't go into businesses that have "no guns" signs up, they merely publicize the fact that such stores have banned them from being armed.  This upsets the stores in question, since lots of gun owners are quite willing to boycott such stores.  Hell, I STILL will not own a S&W product due to S&W's former owner's actions during the '90s.  Sure, ownership has changed hands, but if a company tries to fark with my rights by publicly fellating our common enemies, their "brand" is forever tainted, and I'm not alone in this.  Same deal with Ruger.
 
2014-06-26 08:52:27 AM  

jaybeezey: GoldSpider: Tricky Chicken: But of course, this is all just because guns are bad.

Trust me, people around here don't see me as a "guns are bad" kind of person.  I'm just naturally curious about mentality of people who seem to be stuck in a state of hyper-vigilance to the point that it seems they seek out opportunities to defend themselves.  Not saying you're that type, but an awful lot of vocal "second-amentment rights advocates" seem to fit that mold.

Just the ones you see on television. There are millions of us walking around with guns everyday that you never know exist.


Very true. And I have no idea how many of them are trained in how to safely own/carry.
 
2014-06-26 08:53:56 AM  
But I thought CCW never stops any crime?
 
2014-06-26 08:54:19 AM  

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Most of the "open carry farkwits" I've heard about don't go into businesses that have "no guns" signs up, they merely publicize the fact that such stores have banned them from being armed. This upsets the stores in question, since lots of gun owners are quite willing to boycott such stores. Hell, I STILL will not own a S&W product due to S&W's former owner's actions during the '90s. Sure, ownership has changed hands, but if a company tries to fark with my rights by publicly fellating our common enemies, their "brand" is forever tainted, and I'm not alone in this. Same deal with Ruger.


You sound like the kind of reasoned and rational person who should be owning deadly weapons...
 
2014-06-26 08:55:22 AM  

Tricky Chicken: FirstNationalBastard: So I'll be justified next the I carry my suitcase nuke with me?

Translation: I don't always herp. But when I do, I derp.


Lighten up, Francis.  It was a farking joke.
 
2014-06-26 08:55:43 AM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: HotWingConspiracy: White_Scarf_Syndrome: "OMG why do you carry a pistol in the car? With your son too??"
"You see all these homeless people on every single corner?"
"Well yeah, they need help.."
"When they are banging on my window my only option is to point it at them or pull forward into the intersection and get t-boned.  What would you do?"
"...."

Where the fark do you live?

The capital of Texas has a ridiculous homeless policy.  There are people on almost every single highway intersection begging.  Walking up and down the red lights with some sign.  Some dog or puppy they have trained.  I'm not an anti-homeless person, but it's just too much, and I don't trust them.  They are clearly mentally unstable and I have no problem carrying a pistol on my front seat when I have my son.  I have had them just completely go off for no reason other than me ignoring them, waving hi, saying sorry no cash, stopping too quickly, stopping too slowly, "almost" hitting them when they are walking in the street on an interstate highway, the list goes on and on.

But yeah, I'm supposed to just sit there and "be uncomfortable for a few minutes."

fark that.  It wears on you when it's several times a day every single day.  I like it here but there are some really really screwed up things about Austin.  Also the hipsters.  Don't even get me started.


I deal with those guys too here in Houston. Never had anything even remotely like that happen to me. I doubt you have either.
 
2014-06-26 08:56:54 AM  
Wow, I've seen some shiatty links on Fark, but that one takes the cake. No source for this story, no link to any actual news coverage of the alleged CCW-hero-stops-stabbist event. Just the unsupported word of a zealot. Try clicking on one of the links in the story. Hope you enjoy five popups to unrelated bullshiat.
 
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