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(Gawker)   Remember the story about that father who "forgot" his beloved son in a hot SUV? Turns out he also forgot to delete the browser history after his online research on how long it would take an animal to die if it were trapped in a hot car   (gawker.com ) divider line
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2014-06-26 10:08:56 AM  

roc6783: AverageAmericanGuy: When I first heard this story on the radio, I felt really bad because I had thought of all the times I could have gotten distracted and forgotten my kid in the car on a hot sunny day. Luckily, that never happened. He's 9 now and would give me hell if I tried to leave him in the car.

But now this? I see the pictures of the kid, and I am dying a little inside. I can't imagine the kind of farked up person that father must be for seriously contemplating killing the boy and then going through with it.

An accident, I can understand. And for a couple days I sympathized. Today, all I can muster is anger and hate.

I frequently joke that my billion dollar invention is a tranquilizer gun for use on kids with no side effects other than an instant 2 hour nap. My proposed tagline, "All the fun of shooting your kids with none of the side effects." This piece of filth makes me feel really bad for making a tasteless joke.


By any chance, would you have a dosage for mouthy teens or dreadful bosses?  I'm asking for a friend.
 
2014-06-26 10:09:27 AM  
My god.... did this sick asshole really think he was going to be able to sell that he forgot to drop his kid off at his work's on-site daycare for seven hours?1?!

Home Depot has to chalk this up as a bad hire....
 
2014-06-26 10:11:01 AM  
Why all the talk about this guy being sick? Maybe he is just evil. We seem to be quick to rationalize evil as sick or aberrant, but maybe he, in a rational frame of mind, just coldly calculated the pros and cons of killing his son and did the farked up thing. He caused another person to suffer immeasurably for his gain.
 
2014-06-26 10:12:25 AM  

Taxbongo: 22 months?

Forgive me, I am unsure of the life cycle of toddlers, but at what age do they begin to speak? I am just curious if the 22 month old was conscience or not of what was happening.


My daughter is 25 months and has been clipping the chest buckle on her car seat for 2+ months. She has been able to pick up my wife's Nexus, unlock it, find the screen that has her apps, and open the particular one she wants for about 4 months.
 
2014-06-26 10:14:10 AM  

fireclown: SundaesChild: Wow, I thought charging him with murder was extreme for what looked like an accident. Sad to say I was very wrong.

No problem.  That's how evidence works.  New evidence can change one's mind.


Tell that to Iraq!
 
2014-06-26 10:15:24 AM  
I don't think that I'm alone in that some small, very dark part of me feels something like relief that this was an intentional act because makes me feel like it's less likely that I would do such a thing.  If this had truly been an accident, it would feel totally plausible that such a thing could happen to me.  I honestly don't think I'm alone in this.
 
2014-06-26 10:19:36 AM  
All I can muster is wow... Just... Wow...

It doesn't help that this kid is a doppleganger of my friend's toddler.
 
2014-06-26 10:20:43 AM  

IvyLady: I don't think that I'm alone in that some small, very dark part of me feels something like relief that this was an intentional act because makes me feel like it's less likely that I would do such a thing.  If this had truly been an accident, it would feel totally plausible that such a thing could happen to me.  I honestly don't think I'm alone in this.


My kid is 20 and I still have nightmares that she's a baby and I have forgotten her somewhere. Never in a car though, but I've dreamt I left her in a shopping cart at the grocery store or at Target.
 
2014-06-26 10:25:05 AM  
Correlation is not causation.

- Sorry, I've been on the interwebby for years and I have never had the the opportunity to be "that guy" and type that at a really stupid juncture so I figured I'd take this opportunity to frolic in self-loathing.
 
2014-06-26 10:27:23 AM  
Extremely rare thing to have a child in that manner.  It is also extremely rare (I hope) for someone to Google that particular topic.  For those to events to happen together and in such close proximity if it were just random chance (i.e. the guy is just incredibly unlucky), is so astronomically small, I don't see how anyone could believe that to be the case.   The simpler and much more believable explanation is he researched this because he was planning to kill his son in this manner and then he followed through with his plan.

Additionally, he went back to the car at lunch and somehow didn't see his son?  I can see forgetting a child as you are getting out of your car as people often fall into habit when getting out of a car and looking over the shoulder to the back seat isn't something we typically do, but when you are getting into the car, you are facing it and can see the whole passenger area.  Incredibly unlikely he wouldn't have noticed his son then, particularly when you consider he likely would have been getting hot and uncomfortable and would have been trying to get his father's attention.

I can just envision the scenario....he goes back to the car to check and see if his son is dead yet and is disappointed to find that he isn't.  The kid is crying, wanting for his father to take him out of the car and to some place cool, but his dad just stares back at him with cold dead eyes, shuts the car door, and walks away.
 
2014-06-26 10:28:41 AM  

mcnguyen: Gaylord Fister: It doesn't say if he googled that before or after his son died. If he did it afterwards, he just might have wanted to know how long the kid suffered.

Yeah, when he did those searches makes a big difference.  The only other thing mentioned in the article is that first responders didn't think his answers "made sense".  He could have just been really shaken up that he accidentally killed his kid.  Plus many first responders are idiots, just like any other group.  I'll wait for better info before sharpening my pitchforks.


The article I read says surveillance video shows he went to the car at lunch time and put something inside, which I interpreted as he went and checked on the kid and noticed it hadn't been hot enough that morning to finish the job. Sick fark

/that's me looking inside yours (and everybody else's)car for the next year in parking lots
//seriously how does a person get that F'd in the head

http://m.wlox.com/#!/newsDetail/25866892?orgId=40
 
2014-06-26 10:32:43 AM  
I hope he dies very soon.
 
2014-06-26 10:34:29 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: If this is true, this "man" should be burned alive

/the thought of the suffering that child must have gone through infuriates me


Most days I like Fark.  Today I hate it for bringing me knowledge of this.  I could not even read past the second line of the article.
 
2014-06-26 10:36:56 AM  

Taxbongo: 22 months?

Forgive me, I am unsure of the life cycle of toddlers, but at what age do they begin to speak? I am just curious if the 22 month old was conscience or not of what was happening.


Kids are all different. Mine is 20 months and jabbers like a maniac when she's not sleeping, but some of my friend's kids near the same age rarely make a peep

But at 22 months I would think, in a parking lot, this kid would be screaming his head off enough that somebody would have heard him. Maybe dad of the year here drugged him
 
2014-06-26 10:37:06 AM  

H31N0US: fireclown: SundaesChild: Wow, I thought charging him with murder was extreme for what looked like an accident. Sad to say I was very wrong.

No problem.  That's how evidence works.  New evidence can change one's mind.

Tell that to Iraq!


Dude!   I can only pick one fight at a time.
;)
 
2014-06-26 10:38:25 AM  

JackieRabbit: My god.... did this sick asshole really think he was going to be able to sell that he forgot to drop his kid off at his work's on-site daycare for seven hours?1?!
Home Depot has to chalk this up as a bad hire....


I didn't hear that at first, but if it was his daily routine, and the daycare was right there--GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY.

EVEN IF you somehow forgot to get the kid out of the car and went into work, you'd remember it before you'd been there for long. You'd think "Wait, how come I'm clocking in 10 minutes earlier than usual?" or you'd think that you don't have your coffee, because you usually picked it up on your way from the daycare room, or you'd still have your diaper that you brought, because that's the last thing you do before you drop the kid off--check his diaper....

Your routine would be off, and you'd notice if you were right there.
 
2014-06-26 10:39:16 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Taxbongo: kling_klang_bed: I know someone who's gonna be getting tossed over the rails in prison, and kudos to whoever does it to this subhuman waste of sperm and egg. WTF kind of monster does this to ANY kid, much less their own?!?! I'll just take a wild guess and say he's just vile on a biological level.

Taking pleasure in death even when you feel it is warranted is sick. We are better than this.

Pfft.  Read the comments in this thread.  You might be "better than this" but most people aren't.


They just wait for the "right" reason to jack off about a human being getting executed, tortured, and raped by people who all these self righteous members of the moral umbrage brigade would flee in terror from if they saw them coming down the street.

/if he's guilty lock him away for life
//hug your kid
///be a better human and role model for your kid than either this guy allegedly or the verbal sadists in this thread.
 
2014-06-26 10:41:23 AM  

foxyshadis: That bloodthirst makes you no better than him in the first place, even if you haven't killed (yet).


That might be the most retarded thing I have ever heard.  Man up, nancy!  I'm sure you've done things that deserve a lynch mob to have at your arse and all this talk is making you picture how bad you are going to have it handed to you but it hasn't happened (yet)
 
2014-06-26 10:42:13 AM  

Mr. Right: In this case, vengeance would be served if the mother would find him, truss him up like a Thanksgiving Turkey, throw him in the back seat of a car and then park it out in the desert somewhere with all the windows tightly sealed. Justice would be a jury finding that he so egregiously failed his responsibilities to honor the life of another, in this case his own son, that he would forfeit his right to live. And his life would then be ended in a relatively humane way.


Thank you for the dry analysis. But you provided no argument that ending his life in a "humane" way would or does amount to "justice".
 
2014-06-26 10:42:41 AM  

Rigby-Reardon: Sass-O-Rev: IIRC,  they are saying he placed the child in a rear-facing child seat. That makes no sense to me. As a mother and a grandmother who has done my share of buckling kids into the car,  I am sure that  well before that age (22 months) that child should have been in a seat that faces forward. Why would he do that? So he can later claim he couldn't see the boy in his rear-view mirror?

/speculation is all I've got
//sad

Just over 3 years ago the child car seat recommendations changed and children up to the age of 2 are now supposed to be rear facing.

It changed in February of 2011. How do I remember this? My oldest son was 11 months old and my wife and I were super excited about getting him forward facing. Went from 1 month away to 13 months away.

About 2 weeks ago I googled this again for my 19 month old because we are sick of the rear facing seat. The studies all said that a young child is 75% more likely to be injured in an accident if front facing. (5 more months)

I have been tired enough with the kids to see how something like this might happen accidentally. Luckily it hasn't happened to me. Cannot believe someone would do this to his own kids. I also believe he was going to leave the wife and did not want to be paying for a kid.


thanks for the clarification-- I did not know that. Also, I live in Canada, and the rules may be a little different here re: ages and stages..

/still sad.
//gonna go hug my grandsquidlet now.
 
2014-06-26 10:44:30 AM  

Taxbongo: poison_amy: Taxbongo: 22 months?

Forgive me, I am unsure of the life cycle of toddlers, but at what age do they begin to speak? I am just curious if the 22 month old was conscience or not of what was happening.

22 month old kids are walking, talking, and figuring stuff out. They had eaten at a restaurant five minutes away, so the kid was wide awake and probably talking a mile a minute. They are also developing logic and he probably tried very hard to get out of his carseat, but likely lacked the fine motor skills and strength.

damn


Kid would have been bawling hard and struggling/squirming like crazy until he passed out from heat exhaustion, he might have only felt the pain for half of the 8 hours, but it's a f***ing shiatty way to go in any event... if he wasn't otherwise dead first and this was some kind of coverup?
 
2014-06-26 10:46:46 AM  

Mr. Ekshun: JohnAnnArbor: What's the motive?

Kid owed money all over town, including to known pornographers.


He thought the kid was suckling his wife's boobies a little too long.
 
2014-06-26 10:48:25 AM  

trappedspirit: foxyshadis: That bloodthirst makes you no better than him in the first place, even if you haven't killed (yet).

That might be the most retarded thing I have ever heard.  Man up, nancy!  I'm sure you've done things that deserve a lynch mob to have at your arse and all this talk is making you picture how bad you are going to have it handed to you but it hasn't happened (yet)


things that deserve having a lynch mob to have at your ass:
murder
horse theft
whistling at a white woman
being in the same room/city/existance/marraige as a white woman


tl;dr whatever the lynch mob wants to use as a reason
 
2014-06-26 10:54:07 AM  

Dogghead: Kid killed by father in hot car......liberal outrage.

Thousands of kids killed each day in abortion 'clinics'....crickets.


1.bp.blogspot.com

/3rd time I've used this in 2 days.
 
2014-06-26 10:54:36 AM  
I too am disgusted at this man's appalling lack of respect for the life of another. Let me show my disgust with murder by writing a seven paragraph fantasy about what parts of him should be pulled off of him while he is flayed to death.
 
2014-06-26 10:56:55 AM  
Taxbongo:

I am very pro-tax. I was trying to put it in a perspective that you could understand.

And you are right a bullet can fix things. But it comes at a cost: our humanity. Killing our fellow citizens makes us the scumbags.


No, it makes us human beings who recognize a corrupted, twisted, evil inndividual who can never be redeemed.  We even kill rabid doogs, who are simply victims of a disease they can't understand.  To eliminate those who choose to inflict harm and suffering to the weak, helpless and innocent does not make us scumbags.  It makes us responsible members of society who carry out a necessary, if unpleasant, task.
 
2014-06-26 10:59:07 AM  

Taxbongo: bindlestiff2600: namatad: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If this is true, this "man" should be burned alive

/the thought of the suffering that child must have gone through infuriates me

nope
death is way too good for people like this
life in prison, no parole, being beaten and raped daily by other inmates, oh yah, that's the one, just punishment for things like this guy

understand your position
still
if you have captured a rabid dog
do you put it down
or place in a cage and poke with sticks

put him down
(mind you if it takes a bit and he screams a lot - ill just quibble about the time its taking)

Besides making us feel better what else does executing people do?

Nothing. It is wrong to take a life. It shows that we are no better than them


But no worse, right?
 
2014-06-26 10:59:21 AM  

E5bie: Datanerd: Not about this case, but in general I keep seeing a lot of statements about how a parent couldn't make that kind of mistake.  Gene Weingarten of the Washington Post wrote a very sad long article about that.  I don't think it will change any minds, but the gist of it is that it can happen, because of how people's minds work.

From your link: "It happens that way somewhere in the United States 15 to 25 times a year"

Each year, approximately 4 million infants are born in the United States.
Infant mortality is over 5 per 1,000. That adds up to 20,000 deaths in the 0-1 age group.
So... no. This does not happen often. Good parents do not make that kind of mistake.


Just like cosleeping deaths. Many people may do it, but not too many kids end up dead because of it.

//Also, with the co-sleeping thing, alcohol and drugs are usually a factor. So if your kid survived co-sleeping, you probably weren't wasted, congrats. http://m.jsonline.com/more/news/milwaukee/87602592.html
 
2014-06-26 11:02:20 AM  
On the brighter side, I think there is going to be a job opening created at this guy's company.

/You are welcome, Obama.
 
2014-06-26 11:07:18 AM  

itsaidwhat: On the brighter side, I think there is going to be a job opening created at this guy's company.

/You are welcome, Obama.


The bar is pretty low too, "The new guy can't figure out how to use the copier and he's always coming in late and leaving early but hey, at least he isn't killing babies"
 
2014-06-26 11:14:38 AM  

Two Dogs Farking: As the father of a young boy, I can't express how much this disgusts me. I am completely befuddled.

At the very least, the father needs to be castrated, preferably as painfully as possible - with a hot fireplace poker or by pitbull - to ensure that he never reproduces again.


I am sure PTMA prison will take good care of him if this is true. If not karma will.
 
2014-06-26 11:16:43 AM  
Stories like these put my thoughts into such a weird place.  Like, cruel and unusual punishment is so played out, when are we going to have some Running Man type shiat.  I will pay to see that shiat on pay per view.  Them moments later I'm back in reality, I guess we'll pay to incarcerate this pos for the rest of his life.
 
Ehh
2014-06-26 11:17:11 AM  
He's got double stubble too. Burn him.
 
2014-06-26 11:19:05 AM  
My wife and I have been trying to adopt for a while now, and we've met at least a hundred couples who have been trying for longer.

Any one of us would have been thrilled to give this little boy a home if this piece of slime wasn't willing to be a parent.

Instead this happens.

I want this piece if shiyat to be in a lot of pain for a very, very long time
 
2014-06-26 11:21:30 AM  

Headso: itsaidwhat: On the brighter side, I think there is going to be a job opening created at this guy's company.

/You are welcome, Obama.

The bar is pretty low too, "The new guy can't figure out how to use the copier and he's always coming in late and leaving early but hey, at least he isn't killing babies"


Though it was before this guy worked there, I've worked for Home Depot's IT department. It isn't a great job. Not terrible but is a combination of typical Fortune 500 political BS, slow moving bureaucracy, average pay, and suburbanite Rand worshiping libertarian co-workers. If you can put your head down, not give a fark about the quality of results, and mentally check out, it's a solid job that will keep you in a middle class life style.

/And yes, there have extensive filters on what you can access on the internet so you won't spend your day browsing Fark.
//The bureaucracy is insane. Took two weeks to get a computer. Another two for internet access. And about that long for an id badge.
 
2014-06-26 11:23:00 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: Extremely rare thing to have a child in that manner.  It is also extremely rare (I hope) for someone to Google that particular topic.  For those to events to happen together and in such close proximity if it were just random chance (i.e. the guy is just incredibly unlucky), is so astronomically small, I don't see how anyone could believe that to be the case.   The simpler and much more believable explanation is he researched this because he was planning to kill his son in this manner and then he followed through with his plan.

I have to agree. What are the odds of a man doing all this 'by accident'?
- aware/awake enough to take his toddler to breakfast before work;
- forgetting toddler (and diaper bag/toys/binky/etc.) in car parked on rooftop lot;
- forgetting he didn't walk to daycare/interact with daycare personnel;
- getting to work early, due to missing the daycare hand-off;
- stopping by car at lunchtime to drop something off and not notice toddler in backseat;
- searching for 'heatstroke death in car' (or something) on work computer that very day; and
- only realizing something was wrong at the end of the day (presumably when other people are around to witness his 'grieved father' breakdown)

When I first read about this case, I wanted to hope it was a terrible, terrible accident brought about by extreme sleep deprivation. But the more I read...yeah, I think Occam's Razor applies here.

Still surprised no one from the daycare center called him to ask, "hey, why didn't you bring your son in today like you usually do?" or "why didn't you let us know your son wasn't coming in today?" Most daycares keep very close tabs on who shows up & who doesn't. Well, the non-sh*tty ones, at least.
 
2014-06-26 11:23:56 AM  
If true, it suggests that this was a premeditated murder, and this person should go to prison for a very, very long time.

...but what's really scary is how bloodthirsty people on Fark appear to be.  Good lord, I'm glad we've got police and prisons to cow you all into behaving in a civilized way, because I'd be terrified to see what half of the posters here would be like if left to their own devices in some sort of post-apocalyptic anarchy scenario.  The Eighth amendment exists for a reason: because we're supposed to at least try to behave better than criminals -- not invent the most gruesome possible revenge fantasies and outdo the savagery of the criminals we punish.
 
2014-06-26 11:27:35 AM  

jshine: If true, it suggests that this was a premeditated murder, and this person should go to prison for a very, very long time.

...but what's really scary is how bloodthirsty people on Fark appear to be.  Good lord, I'm glad we've got police and prisons to cow you all into behaving in a civilized way, because I'd be terrified to see what half of the posters here would be like if left to their own devices in some sort of post-apocalyptic anarchy scenario.  The Eighth amendment exists for a reason: because we're supposed to at least try to behave better than criminals -- not invent the most gruesome possible revenge fantasies and outdo the savagery of the criminals we punish.


You really think they would actually enact this? Hell, even if they were given all of the tools and time and freedom necessary, they look at you, look at him, and look at you and say,
"You know what? He's not worth it."

Like Bilbo and Gollum.
 
2014-06-26 11:27:38 AM  

Dogghead: Kid killed by father in hot car......liberal outrage.

Thousands of kids killed each day in abortion 'clinics'....crickets.


WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CRICKETS?
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-06-26 11:30:54 AM  

StandsWithAFist: Pumpernickel bread: Extremely rare thing to have a child in that manner.  It is also extremely rare (I hope) for someone to Google that particular topic.  For those to events to happen together and in such close proximity if it were just random chance (i.e. the guy is just incredibly unlucky), is so astronomically small, I don't see how anyone could believe that to be the case.   The simpler and much more believable explanation is he researched this because he was planning to kill his son in this manner and then he followed through with his plan.
I have to agree. What are the odds of a man doing all this 'by accident'?
- aware/awake enough to take his toddler to breakfast before work;
- forgetting toddler (and diaper bag/toys/binky/etc.) in car parked on rooftop lot;
- forgetting he didn't walk to daycare/interact with daycare personnel;
- getting to work early, due to missing the daycare hand-off;
- stopping by car at lunchtime to drop something off and not notice toddler in backseat;
- searching for 'heatstroke death in car' (or something) on work computer that very day; and
- only realizing something was wrong at the end of the day (presumably when other people are around to witness his 'grieved father' breakdown)

When I first read about this case, I wanted to hope it was a terrible, terrible accident brought about by extreme sleep deprivation. But the more I read...yeah, I think Occam's Razor applies here.

Still surprised no one from the daycare center called him to ask, "hey, why didn't you bring your son in today like you usually do?" or "why didn't you let us know your son wasn't coming in today?" Most daycares keep very close tabs on who shows up & who doesn't. Well, the non-sh*tty ones, at least.


I was going to agree with you that this appears to be a shiatty daycare.
Can't wait until they search his phone, and see the 3 missed calls form the daycare right as he was punching into work.

:(
 
2014-06-26 11:31:02 AM  

HAMMERTOE: But you provided no argument that ending his life in a "humane" way would or does amount to "justice"


It is my opinion, shared by many others, that every right has concomitant responsibilities.  Among the concomitant responsibilities of the right to live is to respect the lives of others.  When someone, such as dear old dad in this case, so egregiously and callously disrespects the right of another to live and especially when he causes the death of one who is dependent on him - legally as well as physically - then justice is served by depriving him of his right to live.  One of the functions of the justice system is to determine which rights one loses when he fails to exercise his responsibilities.
 
2014-06-26 11:34:31 AM  

cherryl taggart: roc6783: AverageAmericanGuy: When I first heard this story on the radio, I felt really bad because I had thought of all the times I could have gotten distracted and forgotten my kid in the car on a hot sunny day. Luckily, that never happened. He's 9 now and would give me hell if I tried to leave him in the car.

But now this? I see the pictures of the kid, and I am dying a little inside. I can't imagine the kind of farked up person that father must be for seriously contemplating killing the boy and then going through with it.

An accident, I can understand. And for a couple days I sympathized. Today, all I can muster is anger and hate.

I frequently joke that my billion dollar invention is a tranquilizer gun for use on kids with no side effects other than an instant 2 hour nap. My proposed tagline, "All the fun of shooting your kids with none of the side effects." This piece of filth makes me feel really bad for making a tasteless joke.

By any chance, would you have a dosage for mouthy teens or dreadful bosses?  I'm asking for a friend.


Besides the obvious, real consequences issues, here are the 2 big ones with such a device:
1. I am lazy, and wouldn't spend the time to do it.

2. Everyone would give me all the money, and then start tranquilizing everyone, all the time. Then I would end up in a version of that movie Envy, and that movie sucked, except Christopher Walken.
 
2014-06-26 11:37:33 AM  
Taxbongo:

It is never right for us to take a life out of spite.

On this point, you are correct.

One of the times where I universally support the death penalty is when dealing with serial rapists, serial killers, and mass murderers. And the reason is simple: They have proven that they will be a danger to society for as long as they live. They cannot be rehabilitated, and they can never be released from jail without putting the public in danger. Therefore, there is no point in paying for their room and board for 50 years.

All others need to be taken on a case-by-case basis. Obviously, if you have a 1st-Degree Murder case where the evidence is irrefutable, and the evidence shows that the convict will commit more murder if ever released, then it's probably best to eliminate them permanently.
 
2014-06-26 11:40:40 AM  
Fark dude there's a ton of people like my wife and I who want kids but haven't been able to have them yet. farking find a couple like us and do the adoption thing. You'll never have to see you're kid again if it's such a bad thing.
 
2014-06-26 11:41:06 AM  

Loreweaver: One of the times where I universally support the death penalty is when dealing with serial rapists, serial killers, and mass murderers. And the reason is simple: They have proven that they will be a danger to society for as long as they live. They cannot be rehabilitated, and they can never be released from jail without putting the public in danger. Therefore, there is no point in paying for their room and board for 50 years.


So we're killing them because we're cheapskates.  What about a chronic alcoholic arrested for his 50th DUI?  What about a serial con man?  Both of those people are also dangers to society.  They can't be rehabilitated, and the moment they're released from jail they'll be finding a scotch and a subaru or a suburbanite to rip off.  Why should I have to pay for their room and board for 50 years?
 
2014-06-26 11:41:31 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I have just always assumed that the phenomenon of the "l'il sizzler," whereby a parent "accidentally forgets" their kid in a hot car, then looks appropriately glum and remorseful, followed by a DA not bringing charges against them because they've "suffered enough already" is nothing more than a unofficially socially acceptable method of postnatal abortion. I just assumed there was some unspoken rule amongst people with kids that if you want to get rid of your squalling crotchspawn, pulling a l'il sizzler was the way to do it.

Because I still can't figure out--even after reading Gene Weingarten's Pulitzer-winning article about it--how in the fark anyone can forget a kid in a car. You're telling me that after shoveling the crapload of weird supplies you need for a kid (diapers, snacks, wipes, juice, DVD player and Baby Einstein CD, stuffed toys, etc.) in the car, along with a huge honking car seat, and then driving around with a dribbling, excreting, screaming thing throwing toys and body fluids around, that you "just forget" about it? I call shenanigans. People do this on purpose.


So much THIS.  I've always wondered about that too and thought it was on purpose.  Way too easy if you want to dispose of the kid because, as you said, no one blames the parents because they've "suffered enough."
 
2014-06-26 11:43:09 AM  
Thank goodness these assholes are not very smart.
 
2014-06-26 11:43:50 AM  
For anyone questioning whether it was before or after the kid was dead, it was on his work computer, which means it was before the kid was dead.
 
2014-06-26 11:50:53 AM  
I'm anti-death penalty, but in this case I'll make an exception.
 
2014-06-26 11:58:14 AM  

bunner: As for all the psychologists who make a tidy sum stumping to turn slimy SOB's like this into lab rats instead of mulch, you do so because you chose to study this sort of sick f*ck and, frankly, unless you have no conscience whatsoever, you do so because you have a morbid fascination with such trash.  Which puts you about 2 MMPPI graph aberrations on the side of the bars without the toilet.  And you get paid for it.  Sort of like cops and thugs.  And yet, for all this fine toothed combing of slimy, remorseless, clinical narcissists, we still seem to have no dearth of them.


Bunner, you're on my favorites list, but this is one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. Did you mean it or are your emotions just getting the best of you?

Psychologists have been studying these "slimy SOBs" for a host of reasons. The one I like most is: in the hopes of recognizing future slimy SOBs *before* they kill, and intervening before innocents die.

Yeah, your method sounds real tough on crime and great. What does it do for Johnny 2054? He still dies. Because *you* never fixed the sickness, you just killed the patient.

We've been studying these people for, what, maybe 150 years? We've been *seriously* studying them for maybe 70 years? And you're seriously dismissing psychology? Shiat man, how many *centuries* did it take for us to go from leeches to penicillin? Are you f*ckin' kidding me?
 
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