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2014-06-26 06:55:29 AM  

Taxbongo: You find out why he is the way he is.


I hate to piss in your petunias, but some people are just pieces of sh*t.  Period.  And the faster we scrape them off of our shoe, the better.  Maybe his mom with him with a stick when he was 7.  Boo my hoo.  He murdered his own flesh and blood and in the most cowardly manner one might conceive of.  You can save him on your dime.  Personally, I'll be happy to pony up for one 30.06 round and a bag of lime.

Taxbongo: Redeeming this man and making him a productive member of society


You mean one more motherfu*ker looking for work in a sh*t economy who practices infanticide on his own son in his spare time?  Yeah, that'll fix the budget deficit.

Taxbongo: makes us look like humans instead of beasts


So, "look at how civilized I am!  I think we should all buy a child murdering, cowardly crap stain lunch every day"?  You do it.  I won't.
 
2014-06-26 06:55:50 AM  
I kinda wish he did this in Texas.
/since they execute their mentally ill.
 
2014-06-26 06:56:21 AM  

poison_amy: Taxbongo: . If someone really wants to be rehabilitated they can be.


What about the ones who don't want to be rehabilitated?  Many criminals, if not most, have narcissistic personality disorder.  They don't "want to be rehabilitated" because they don't think there is anything wrong with them.  I work with criminals all day, every day.  The ones who want to be rehabilitated find a way and they never come back to prison.  The rest of them just learn to be better criminals.


Then we keep them in jail away from the community

It is never right for us to take a life out of spite.
 
2014-06-26 06:56:49 AM  
hit him with
 
2014-06-26 06:58:15 AM  

Taxbongo: It is never right for us to take a life out of spite.


:  /

:  |


Um..

No.
 
2014-06-26 06:59:15 AM  

Taxbongo: bunner: Taxbongo: So does locking them up until they are no longer a threat

That costs money.  A lot of it.  F*ck that.  If we're gonna live in a society that sucks money's dick, and that can not make the connection between a tax funded medicine model and a robust citizenry, we can throw pieces of trash like this away.  And as far as a chemical cocktail, ammo is about 34¢ a round.  When a dog goes rabid, you put it down.

Everything is resource intensive. People go for decades on death row just waiting and doing nothing but costing us a lot of money. If you wanted the cheapest route that would be rehabilitation.


So we fix Capital punishment and put some farking teeth in it. The law I have always wanted to see (and in all other cases I am more liberal than you so don't even start) is this: If you are convicted of a capital crime, you have 3 appeals maximum, and they are to be within a 2 year period. If after 4 total trials you cannot prove your innocence, you have 30 days to live. Period. Saves money, makes sense, rids the world of scum.

Put that law out there and I will back it every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
 
2014-06-26 06:59:48 AM  
Damn, that's f'd up enough to make Gandhi and Mother Teresa team up to torture and kill this guy
 
2014-06-26 07:02:06 AM  
Taxbongo:
 spite.


I do not think this means what you think it means.
 
2014-06-26 07:04:13 AM  

my lip balm addiction: Taxbongo: bunner: Taxbongo: So does locking them up until they are no longer a threat

That costs money.  A lot of it.  F*ck that.  If we're gonna live in a society that sucks money's dick, and that can not make the connection between a tax funded medicine model and a robust citizenry, we can throw pieces of trash like this away.  And as far as a chemical cocktail, ammo is about 34¢ a round.  When a dog goes rabid, you put it down.

Everything is resource intensive. People go for decades on death row just waiting and doing nothing but costing us a lot of money. If you wanted the cheapest route that would be rehabilitation.

So we fix Capital punishment and put some farking teeth in it. The law I have always wanted to see (and in all other cases I am more liberal than you so don't even start) is this: If you are convicted of a capital crime, you have 3 appeals maximum, and they are to be within a 2 year period. If after 4 total trials you cannot prove your innocence, you have 30 days to live. Period. Saves money, makes sense, rids the world of scum.

Put that law out there and I will back it every day of the week and twice on Sunday.


Your right. You are more Liberal than I. I just happen to be more Progressive than you.

Capital punishment is barbaric this day in age. I am not going to apply our moral standards to our ancestors as it was a different time. Indeed it is a different time and you are on the minority. Capital punishment is wrong and it will be repealed.
 
2014-06-26 07:04:49 AM  

Taxbongo: poison_amy: Taxbongo: . If someone really wants to be rehabilitated they can be.


What about the ones who don't want to be rehabilitated?  Many criminals, if not most, have narcissistic personality disorder.  They don't "want to be rehabilitated" because they don't think there is anything wrong with them.  I work with criminals all day, every day.  The ones who want to be rehabilitated find a way and they never come back to prison.  The rest of them just learn to be better criminals.

Then we keep them in jail away from the community

It is never right for us to take a life out of spite.


In your world. And who says it is "for spite" except true bleeding hearst like you?

In my reality based one, taking the life of someone like that after they have been convicted just needs to be speeded up. Put a fast lane on the Capital punishment drive through.

I do not have the want for them to sit in jail forever, possibly being raped and hurt, more probably reading books and making new friends. They do not deserve a shred of compassion. Your level of over-compassion is actually unbecoming. Sometimes you just need to put a dog down.

/human life is not sacred
 
2014-06-26 07:05:26 AM  

my lip balm addiction: Taxbongo: bunner: Taxbongo: So does locking them up until they are no longer a threat

That costs money.  A lot of it.  F*ck that.  If we're gonna live in a society that sucks money's dick, and that can not make the connection between a tax funded medicine model and a robust citizenry, we can throw pieces of trash like this away.  And as far as a chemical cocktail, ammo is about 34¢ a round.  When a dog goes rabid, you put it down.

Everything is resource intensive. People go for decades on death row just waiting and doing nothing but costing us a lot of money. If you wanted the cheapest route that would be rehabilitation.

So we fix Capital punishment and put some farking teeth in it. The law I have always wanted to see (and in all other cases I am more liberal than you so don't even start) is this: If you are convicted of a capital crime, you have 3 appeals maximum, and they are to be within a 2 year period. If after 4 total trials you cannot prove your innocence, you have 30 days to live. Period. Saves money, makes sense, rids the world of scum.

Put that law out there and I will back it every day of the week and twice on Sunday.


You forget that in America you can buy your way out of killing your neighbor, chopping up his body, dumping it in the ocean, and fleeing the state.

Our legal system is too crap for mere conviction to be proof.

What we need is a third party organization to counter-check the claims of both prosecution and defense.
 
2014-06-26 07:06:56 AM  

doglover: my lip balm addiction: Taxbongo: bunner: Taxbongo: So does locking them up until they are no longer a threat

That costs money.  A lot of it.  F*ck that.  If we're gonna live in a society that sucks money's dick, and that can not make the connection between a tax funded medicine model and a robust citizenry, we can throw pieces of trash like this away.  And as far as a chemical cocktail, ammo is about 34¢ a round.  When a dog goes rabid, you put it down.

Everything is resource intensive. People go for decades on death row just waiting and doing nothing but costing us a lot of money. If you wanted the cheapest route that would be rehabilitation.

So we fix Capital punishment and put some farking teeth in it. The law I have always wanted to see (and in all other cases I am more liberal than you so don't even start) is this: If you are convicted of a capital crime, you have 3 appeals maximum, and they are to be within a 2 year period. If after 4 total trials you cannot prove your innocence, you have 30 days to live. Period. Saves money, makes sense, rids the world of scum.

Put that law out there and I will back it every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

You forget that in America you can buy your way out of killing your neighbor, chopping up his body, dumping it in the ocean, and fleeing the state.

Our legal system is too crap for mere conviction to be proof.

What we need is a third party organization to counter-check the claims of both prosecution and defense.


They call those "juries"
 
2014-06-26 07:07:22 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I kinda wish he did this in Texas.
/since they execute their mentally ill.


It's been too cool tgis summer.
 
2014-06-26 07:08:18 AM  

my lip balm addiction: So we fix Capital punishment and put some farking teeth in it.


Mon. 3:00 P.M. - "We hereby sentence you to death by execution by the state."

Tues. 7:00 A.M. - "Good morning, criminal.    Here is the meal you ordered.  Enjoy."

Tues. 9:30 A.M. - "OK, on your feet.  This is televised, btw!"

Tues. 9:41 A.M. *BANG*
 
2014-06-26 07:10:16 AM  

bunner: my lip balm addiction: So we fix Capital punishment and put some farking teeth in it.

Mon. 3:00 P.M. - "We hereby sentence you to death by execution by the state."

Tues. 7:00 A.M. - "Good morning, criminal.    Here is the meal you ordered.  Enjoy."

Tues. 9:30 A.M. - "OK, on your feet.  This is televised, btw!"

Tues. 9:41 A.M. *BANG*


BORING.

/changes channel
 
2014-06-26 07:11:23 AM  
I've been watching CNN just now.  This story an others like the missing child found in the basement.

This all seems like fake news.  This is all fake I think.

Do not trust the mainstream news. It is full of shiat.
 
2014-06-26 07:12:27 AM  

ElLoco: ORING.

/changes channel


Oh, look a.. forum   critic?   :  /  Works for me, Erato.
 
2014-06-26 07:12:40 AM  

metaskie: His arms and legs should be shattered and improperly set, then put in prison with rapists and murderers.


Sure, but then where should we put the other parts of his body?
 
2014-06-26 07:20:55 AM  

MagSeven: bunner: I'd like to buy this person lunch.  With Clyde Shelton.

That may be too obscure even for Fark. Cool movie though.

This guy....this guy.... If it doesn't take me more than an hour to remember a pack of Funyons I left in my truck, I'd imagine the kid factor cuts that "oh yeah!/Oh Fark!"  time down by about 45 minutes. Not to mention, as he drove back from "daycare" he didn't look in his rear-view mirror the entire time? What a horrible way to die for the kid. I hope they fry this dude.


The guy is completely full of shiat.  There is no way he wouldn't have noticed his kid in the back seat.

Fry the motherfarker.
 
2014-06-26 07:21:18 AM  
If I were a god, I would create a hell just for this asshole.
 
2014-06-26 07:23:06 AM  
Hardly anything in this farked up world truly shocks me any more, but this did.
 
2014-06-26 07:24:19 AM  

Taxbongo: They call those "juries"


People who pass voir dire are ineligible for meaningful jury duty. Think about it. One side or the other thinks they'll be sympathetic to their case.

Thus, juries as they are already fail systematically. Add in all the special protections prosecutors enjoy and the underfunded defense lawyers and all the BS laws 200+ years of Republicans and Democrats pandering for votes?

America's legal system is worse than Westeros'.
 
2014-06-26 07:24:48 AM  
As for all the psychologists who make a tidy sum stumping to turn slimy SOB's like this into lab rats instead of mulch, you do so because you chose to study this sort of sick f*ck and, frankly, unless you have no conscience whatsoever, you do so because you have a morbid fascination with such trash.  Which puts you about 2 MMPPI graph aberrations on the side of the bars without the toilet.  And you get paid for it.  Sort of like cops and thugs.  And yet, for all this fine toothed combing of slimy, remorseless, clinical narcissists, we still seem to have no dearth of them.
 
2014-06-26 07:28:10 AM  
He'll probably still claim the child as a dependent this year on his taxes.
Put him in a car and burn it.
 
2014-06-26 07:28:32 AM  
When this story first broke (local news to me) I was not about to pass judgement.  I had just read a Pulitzer Prize winning article on the subject (long but very good read)  and those that make this mistake honestly live with awful guilt the rest of their lives.

To do it on purpose is unfathomably cruel.
 
2014-06-26 07:30:52 AM  
People search for info for all sorts of things online just out if curiosity - how many if you googled pressure cookers or cobalt-60 after various events earlier this year.

This is definitely a reason to do more investigation but if hope there was additional evidence before they send someone to prison for the rest of his life.

That said - if he did do it then the Ramsey Snow treatment would be too good for him.
 
2014-06-26 07:31:11 AM  
Ugh. That's just terrible if true. Story is awful anyway but if e did it on purpose it exponentially increases the awfulness.
 
2014-06-26 07:31:14 AM  
I'll never forget when I woke up from an afternoon nap, and I thought that I had left him in the car.  I ran out in my boxers screaming NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Then I saw the car was empty and that I was just being an idiot and that he was at his Mom's.

As I walked out my secondary objective was to note where the AK variant was and that all I had were hollow points and that it'd probably make a big mess and to do it in the bathtub and also to leave the door unlocked for the police and ambulance.  Run on sentence on purpose.

I'm not sure how to understand people when people are generally farking disgusting.
 
2014-06-26 07:31:48 AM  

doglover: People who pass voir dire are ineligible for meaningful jury duty. Think about it. One side or the other thinks they'll be sympathetic to their case.


Bullsh*t.

/but at least consistent bullsh*t....
 
2014-06-26 07:32:47 AM  

Green81: He wanted to put a meaningful dent in the Capital Punishment Debate among the anti-death penalty crowd


Not often I say this, but I'm glad Georgia is a death penalty state. Strap in Justin and let the sparks fly.
/gas is ok too.
 
2014-06-26 07:34:30 AM  
As soon as I saw it was in Cobb County, GA, I thought of this:
www.wwe.com
That guy should be serving "Hard Times".
 
2014-06-26 07:36:33 AM  
from the comments:


I donated money to the KFC girl. And I signed the petition arguing that murder charges be dropped against this guy. Evidently I'm just the biggest farking idiot on the Internet.

No, not the biggest. But one of the biggest.
Probably top 20.
 
2014-06-26 07:36:48 AM  
A kid that age would have soiled his diaper by the time the dad went back to his car. The smell would have been overpowering in that heat. Even if he didn't notice at lunch, he didn't immediately notice at the end of the day? (he drove two miles before stopping in the parking lot).
 
2014-06-26 07:36:51 AM  

Target Builder: People search for info for all sorts of things online just out if curiosity - how many if you googled pressure cookers or cobalt-60 after various events earlier this year.


3.bp.blogspot.com
"Man googles for how long it would take to suffocate a small animal in a hot car."
        Soon after, his infant son suffocates in a hot car.   You can't explain that"


Actually, I can.
 
2014-06-26 07:41:53 AM  

EggSniper: Why the hell did he pull into some random parking lot on the way home? Whether he had accidentally or purposefully left him in the car all day, that doesn't make sense. Either you see a child in your car when you walk up to it, freak out and check on him then, or you go about fabricating your alibi. Either way this guy is monumentally stupid and should not have bred in the first place.


I've been following this story in the Daily Fail, you know, the paper with all the big photos and sometimes a story, and it sounds like he pulled over like that because he wanted to put on a show about how distraught he was about his son, in front of lots of witnesses. But he wasn't consistent...a couple of the witnesses said that at first he said that the kid was choking, and he'd stopped in a hurry to try to help him. But of course the child was long dead. And that he was saying all kinds of crazy stuff that didn't make sense. Not just like he was crazed with grief, but he didn't make any sense when he was raving about what happened to his son. The first responders said the same thing.

Also, the police said that there was evidence that he'd been out to his car at lunchtime and put something in the car. Umm.....yeah, if this is true.....
They're not really saying much about this case, so I think there's a lot more, but the fact that they charged him with murder right away means that they think they have something pretty good. So there's probably a lot more that hasn't come out, and maybe won't. The SUV has dark-tinted windows, so no one probably would have noticed the poor kid while it was parked.

So we'll see. I tend to think that he did this. The cops seemed sure of themselves right from the get-go. And he did the search for the dying dog stuff from his work computer. Don't know when that was, but I assume he hasn't been at work since this happened, so......and here's the poor kid.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-06-26 07:43:39 AM  

Taxbongo: You find out why he is the way he is. If someone really wants to be rehabilitated they can be. It is all about what conservatives call "discipline". Redeeming this man and making him a productive member of society benefits   the tax payers and makes us look like humans instead of beasts


"I thought I could change him....." said no abused woman ever

If you could have this guy "rehabilitated" would you be OK with the state mandating that he is your childcare provider?
How about convicted rapists/abuser/murderer?... Would you let them be your wife/daughter/mother/son's personal assistant?
 
2014-06-26 07:45:39 AM  
seriable.com
 
2014-06-26 07:46:54 AM  
Either way the guy should be put to sleep.
 
2014-06-26 07:47:00 AM  

Aero_70: Taxbongo: You find out why he is the way he is. If someone really wants to be rehabilitated they can be. It is all about what conservatives call "discipline". Redeeming this man and making him a productive member of society benefits   the tax payers and makes us look like humans instead of beasts

"I thought I could change him....." said no abused woman ever

If you could have this guy "rehabilitated" would you be OK with the state mandating that he is your childcare provider?
How about convicted rapists/abuser/murderer?... Would you let them be your wife/daughter/mother/son's personal assistant?


Most ostentatiously pious "progressives" are pretty NIMBY, as a rule.  "I want to save the world within 500' of me because I'm better than you." In other words, this dame.

cdn.memegenerator.net
 
2014-06-26 07:47:30 AM  

JohnAnnArbor: What's the motive?


Obviously the kid was a dick.
 
2014-06-26 07:47:34 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: I'm a paranoid dunce.


FTFY
 
2014-06-26 07:48:24 AM  

Mr. Right: /I subscribe to the "people can be rehabilitated" idea, but not only do US prisons rarely even attempt that, it's unlikely he's worth the effort anyway.

You're correct about the bloodthirst being vengeance, not justice.

I would have to disagree with the "people can be rehabilitated" notion.  Some people can, others cannot.  Psychiatry and psychology are not exact sciences but they can detect the difference between a personality disorder and a mental illness.  A personality disorder can be treated because the person can intellectually recognize that his behavior is deviant and, difficult though it be, can work to correct it.  The truly mentally ill person may exhibit the same behaviors but is intellectually incapable of recognizing that there is anything wrong.  He may be able to recognize that the same behavior is wrong if somebody else does it but is still incapable of recognizing it as wrong if he does it.  Those people cannot be rehabilitated and must be removed from society in a manner befitting their crime, whether that removal entails a humane execution or permanent incarceration.


Oh, not in every case, that's for sure, some brains are completely broken. Schizophrenics and psychotics are always going to be a danger to themselves and everyone around them, and narcissists tend to leave lots of damaged people in their wake. But psychopaths can be trained like dogs, even if they don't think the way average people do; BF Skinner both proved that and was an excellent example himself. The key is training them that being a good dog is more rewarding than being a selfish dick. I think this guy, who was otherwise pretty average and at least tried to be normal up until he went a little insane and decided to get rid of his child, could probably be trained and shamed back into a normal life.

But like I said, I don't think it's worth it, he's used up his big chance so fark him. I don't care if he's killed or imprisoned, but I think it'd be a waste to house him for 20-30 years on the off chance he'll become a productive member of society in his last few twilight years.

Well-trained psychos might become tin-pot dictators and little HOA Hitlers, or born-again assholes and even another Pat Buchanan, but that's still better than muggers and murderers, in my view.
 
2014-06-26 07:50:07 AM  

foxyshadis: psychopaths can be trained like dogs, even if they don't think the way average people do


We got enough CEOs and megachurch preachers.
 
2014-06-26 07:52:21 AM  

Lady Indica: MaudlinMutantMollusk: the thought of the suffering that child must have gone through infuriates me

For what little it's worth from what I understand the heat causes unconsciousness pretty quickly. It's uncomfortable, but the suffering is not great. So, at least there's that. :/

As to this asshole...SMH. I wonder if he was doing it for life insurance or because he didn't want to eventually pay child support or what. I just...can't fathom it. Bet he suicides in jail the worthless piece of shiat.


I'm gonna put my money on extramarital affair, and he wanted to off the kid so he could go off with the mistress child and child support free.
Dunno about the no suffering part, considering there was probably little to no oxygen to breathe in the car, which is what would cause the unconsciousness. Between the fishy story (come on, they reported that the smell was horrendous on the local news there, and he still drove a mile and a half before he 'noticed'. Pretty sure the smell of carrion and feces will get anyone's attention immediately) and his more than suspicious internet search, you can stick a fork in this case and call it done.
Dunno about him getting the death penalty, but if his fellow prisoners get wind of it (and they will, since prison knows all secrets), he'll more than likely be killed quite brutally.
 
2014-06-26 07:52:59 AM  

Taxbongo: bindlestiff2600: namatad: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If this is true, this "man" should be burned alive

/the thought of the suffering that child must have gone through infuriates me

nope
death is way too good for people like this
life in prison, no parole, being beaten and raped daily by other inmates, oh yah, that's the one, just punishment for things like this guy

understand your position
still
if you have captured a rabid dog
do you put it down
or place in a cage and poke with sticks

put him down
(mind you if it takes a bit and he screams a lot - ill just quibble about the time its taking)

Besides making us feel better what else does executing people do?

Nothing. It is wrong to take a life. It shows that we are no better than them


The only situation in which I'd disagree with your statement is when it comes to someone who has life without parole and is still making attempts to kill/maim staff members or other offenders at the correctional facility.

Execution is self-defense on the part of staff, then. Otherwise it's just "we'll kill you back" which is wrong.
 
2014-06-26 07:53:00 AM  

Taxbongo: kling_klang_bed: I know someone who's gonna be getting tossed over the rails in prison, and kudos to whoever does it to this subhuman waste of sperm and egg. WTF kind of monster does this to ANY kid, much less their own?!?! I'll just take a wild guess and say he's just vile on a biological level.

Taking pleasure in death even when you feel it is warranted is sick. We are better than this.



images.sequart.org
 
2014-06-26 07:55:24 AM  

doyner: Solid State Vittles: Is Firefox his preferred browser?

Yes. And he also puts ketchup on hot dogs.


www.city-data.com

Nobody, and I mean nobody, puts ketchup on a hot dog.
 
2014-06-26 07:56:09 AM  

Taxbongo: kling_klang_bed: I know someone who's gonna be getting tossed over the rails in prison, and kudos to whoever does it to this subhuman waste of sperm and egg. WTF kind of monster does this to ANY kid, much less their own?!?! I'll just take a wild guess and say he's just vile on a biological level.

Taking pleasure in death even when you feel it is warranted is sick. We are better than this.



i1.ytimg.com
"I'd take pleasure in guttin' you, boy"
 
2014-06-26 07:57:59 AM  
Once upon a time, briefly, in America, there was justice, common sense, compassion, dignity, honesty and happy endings that occurred someplace besides a cinema screen.  *sigh*
 
2014-06-26 07:59:21 AM  

sno man: Every once in a while one of these come along and you wish for eye-for-an-eye punishment.  Lock this guy in his car, in an adult sized car seat, all strapped in for safety. Make sure it in a sunny spot, roll up the windows, lock the doors and walk away. Bye waster of O2


While a 100 degree day will work, I am thinking just a 90 degree day. You will get the same result. It will just take longer.
 
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