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2014-06-25 05:02:01 PM  
So become a third world state and you get plenty of low paying jobs, no social safety net and no hope of a better life.  Yep, sign me up dumbass.
 
2014-06-25 05:06:58 PM  
You can pay for that safety net or you can invest in a better future.
 
2014-06-25 05:12:01 PM  
Umm... snookums?  You might want to check where those shows are now being made.  That conservative hotbed that calls itself New York City.
 
2014-06-25 06:10:24 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Umm... snookums?  You might want to check where those shows are now being made.  That conservative hotbed that calls itself New York City.


Get a rope
 
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2014-06-25 06:20:02 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Umm... snookums?  You might want to check where those shows are now being made.  That conservative hotbed that calls itself New York City.


Can't be too liberal. Unless he was lying, it must have changed enough to appease Sean The Manatee.
 
2014-06-25 06:21:00 PM  
The horror.
 
2014-06-25 06:21:13 PM  
Yep CA could one day be like Tennessee where a a deal worth 300 million to expand the Volkswagen plant was derailed by the GOP governor because Volkswagen wanted its workers to be able to collectively bargain.

/But they're all for more creating more jobs
//Really...stop laughing
 
2014-06-25 06:21:53 PM  
Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.
 
2014-06-25 06:22:05 PM  
I thought this happened like 10 years ago.

But this industry specifically, it's a lot of taxpayer giveaways to production companies that cause a lot of these decisions. Not that CA doesn't also do that.
 
2014-06-25 06:22:48 PM  
Vancouver and Toronto have also become popular filming locations, by sunny's logic they must be practically Alabamaesque.
 
2014-06-25 06:24:00 PM  
Business Insider? They usually run articles about what a meanie Fartbama is. Doesn't seem to do much talking about business.
 
2014-06-25 06:24:05 PM  

R.A.Danny: You can pay for that safety net or you can invest in a better future.


why not both?

Oh, hey, look, another war we need the children of middle class parents to die for, to secure 0.01% assets worldwide. Sounds legit.
 
2014-06-25 06:27:17 PM  

RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.


If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.
 
2014-06-25 06:27:57 PM  
The main issue here is that other states are bribing the fark out of the production companies for them to film there.
 
2014-06-25 06:29:53 PM  

dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.


New York is the default location of all TV shows.

Los Angeles is the default location of all movies.

Of course, both are filmed in Vancouver.
 
2014-06-25 06:30:52 PM  
See, the race to the bottom works.
 
2014-06-25 06:31:47 PM  
Straight to other liberal areas like Canada, NYC, DC, or Miami/Southern Florida.
 
2014-06-25 06:32:36 PM  

Geotpf: dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.

New York is the default location of all TV shows.

Los Angeles is the default location of all movies.

Of course, both are filmed in Vancouver.


You never see TV shows about the glamorous life in Des Moines, IA.
 
2014-06-25 06:33:06 PM  

dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.


Royal Pains (doctor show), Suits (lawyer show, but mostly corporate law, so no cops), Louie, 30 Rock (now over), umm, I'm sure there are more.  You're right though, there are a lot of cop shows.
 
2014-06-25 06:33:07 PM  

Geotpf: dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.

New York is the default location of all TV shows.

Los Angeles is the default location of all movies.

Of course, both are filmed in Vancouver.


Then, there's Castle which takes place in NYC but is filmed in LA.
 
2014-06-25 06:34:04 PM  

RexTalionis: Geotpf: dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.

New York is the default location of all TV shows.

Los Angeles is the default location of all movies.

Of course, both are filmed in Vancouver.

Then, there's Castle which takes place in NYC but is filmed in LA.


Funny, but also a cop show.
 
2014-06-25 06:34:30 PM  
Skimmed the article very quickly, but I am assuming that this is because of Steiner Studios opening recently in Brooklyn, which has attracted a lot of talent back to NYC including Boardwalk Empire.
 
2014-06-25 06:35:07 PM  

dr_blasto: Geotpf: dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.

New York is the default location of all TV shows.

Los Angeles is the default location of all movies.

Of course, both are filmed in Vancouver.

You never see TV shows about the glamorous life in Des Moines, IA.


Well, we just had Fargo, though it was filmed in Canada.
 
2014-06-25 06:36:08 PM  

dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Geotpf: dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.

New York is the default location of all TV shows.

Los Angeles is the default location of all movies.

Of course, both are filmed in Vancouver.

Then, there's Castle which takes place in NYC but is filmed in LA.

Funny, but also a cop show.


I was talking about Geotpf's general observation about default location of TV shows in general.
 
2014-06-25 06:36:24 PM  
BusinessInsider = Breibartbats with suits. That is all.
 
2014-06-25 06:37:27 PM  

Geotpf: The main issue here is that other states are bribing the fark out of the production companies for them to film there.


Crew members outside of LA aren't unionized, cost about 1/10 as much, don't have mandatory breaks every hour, and the studios don't have to deal with senority issues since they can hire who they like, when they like, to do what they like. Moving production away means the studios don't have to follow the union's rules and pay union rates.

If I were running a production company, no way in hell would I film in LA.
 
2014-06-25 06:38:16 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.

Royal Pains (doctor show), Suits (lawyer show, but mostly corporate law, so no cops), Louie, 30 Rock (now over), umm, I'm sure there are more.  You're right though, there are a lot of cop shows.


I've never had a chance to watch any of those, but the piles of law and order shiat is what I think of when I think of NYC-based stuff. That and NYPD Blue and shiat like that.
 
2014-06-25 06:39:01 PM  

RexTalionis: dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Geotpf: dr_blasto: RexTalionis: Weirdly enough, only a few years back, people were wondering about whether NY is losing its television industry after the Law and Order series (which essentially kept NYC actors employed for decades) and some of its spinoffs went off the air.

If I think of NY-based scripted TV, other than Seinfeld and Friends, all I can think of are cop shows. Lots and lots of cop shows.

New York is the default location of all TV shows.

Los Angeles is the default location of all movies.

Of course, both are filmed in Vancouver.

Then, there's Castle which takes place in NYC but is filmed in LA.

Funny, but also a cop show.

I was talking about Geotpf's general observation about default location of TV shows in general.


Oh, I got that. but it also fit as a cop show based in NYC.
 
2014-06-25 06:40:22 PM  
Greedy people not getting their way leaving the state?

Color me shocked
 
2014-06-25 06:40:23 PM  

Elegy: Geotpf: The main issue here is that other states are bribing the fark out of the production companies for them to film there.

Crew members outside of LA aren't unionized, cost about 1/10 as much, don't have mandatory breaks every hour, and the studios don't have to deal with senority issues since they can hire who they like, when they like, to do what they like. Moving production away means the studios don't have to follow the union's rules and pay union rates.

If I were running a production company, no way in hell would I film in LA.


Then that doesn't explain the flight to NY, which also have unions for the film industry.
 
2014-06-25 06:40:41 PM  
it's funny that republicans make fun of hollywood all the time, the only place where tax cuts can actually create jobs and tax hikes can kill them.
 
2014-06-25 06:46:21 PM  
GA offers incentives including tax breaks with no union interference. Without standard union rules deaths like the one on the Midnight Rider film wouldn't have happened or would be less likely.
 
2014-06-25 06:46:48 PM  
Maryland paid Netflix millions of tax payer dollars to film.

Perhaps California should pay bribes to Netflix?
 
2014-06-25 06:51:32 PM  

RexTalionis: Elegy: Geotpf: The main issue here is that other states are bribing the fark out of the production companies for them to film there.

Crew members outside of LA aren't unionized, cost about 1/10 as much, don't have mandatory breaks every hour, and the studios don't have to deal with senority issues since they can hire who they like, when they like, to do what they like. Moving production away means the studios don't have to follow the union's rules and pay union rates.

If I were running a production company, no way in hell would I film in LA.

Then that doesn't explain the flight to NY, which also have unions for the film industry.


NYC is cracking down on reality tv companies for wage theft, overtime theft and lack of benefits. Most people who work in reality tv work 50-60 hour weeks as a minimum. the unions are stepping in now to crack down on these places.
 
2014-06-25 06:53:05 PM  
Now that I think about it, there's a LOT of effort put forth portraying courageous police officers out there.
 
2014-06-25 06:54:39 PM  
TV Guide had an interesting map of where TV shows are being filmed around the globe these days. Vancouver is no longer king. Can't find the image so I'll just list some of them:

Crossbones - Puerto Rico
Dominion, Black Sails, Homeland - South Africa
Penny Dreadful, Vikings - Ireland
Outlander - Scotland
Tyrant, Dig - Israel

And of course that doesn't even include Game of Thrones taping all over the farking place.
 
2014-06-25 06:55:16 PM  

olomana: GA offers incentives including tax breaks with no union interference. Without standard union rules deaths like the one on the Midnight Rider film wouldn't have happened or would be less likely.


Your last sentence makes no sense. The PA killed in production of that film was killed in GA, ostensibly without union interference. I'd expect that union rules might actually reduce accidents like that and likely wouldn't contribute to more accidents.
 
2014-06-25 06:55:40 PM  
We must ask... what would the Job Creators do?
 
2014-06-25 06:55:50 PM  
Isnt Cuomo offering 10 years of tax freeness to businesses?
 
2014-06-25 06:56:54 PM  

Pubby: Yep CA could one day be like Tennessee where a a deal worth 300 million to expand the Volkswagen plant was derailed by the GOP governor because Volkswagen wanted its workers to be able to collectively bargain.


And, diabolically, he managed to do it by some sort of mind control where he got the workers to vote against unionization. And then he got the UAW to withdraw its appeal of the vote. And then he got VW to expand  the plant to manufacture a new SUV anyway! I swear the GOP's powers to bend others to its will are taking it to supervillain status.
 
2014-06-25 06:57:06 PM  

Infernalist: Now that I think about it, there's a LOT of effort put forth portraying courageous police officers out there.


That's because prime time always starts with a half-hour TV show about cops randomly tasing and beating people.
 
2014-06-25 06:57:26 PM  

dr_blasto: olomana: GA offers incentives including tax breaks with no union interference. Without standard union rules deaths like the one on the Midnight Rider film wouldn't have happened or would be less likely.

Your last sentence makes no sense. The PA killed in production of that film was killed in GA, ostensibly without union interference. I'd expect that union rules might actually reduce accidents like that and likely wouldn't contribute to more accidents.


Exactly

Unions are pretty damn big on workplace safety. They kinda make a big deal out of it,
 
2014-06-25 06:57:42 PM  

GodsTumor: We must ask... what would the Job Creators do?


Create another reality tv show.
 
2014-06-25 06:58:00 PM  
Meanwhile, in my small hometown deep inside Red State USA, half of the downtown stores sit vacant and all but one of our factories have shut down. But, the locals voted against the scary black man, so they have that going for them.

/There WAS a ginormous furniture factory in town, but when NC voted in the gay marriage ban the openly gay owner of the company moved his company overseas.
//All of my neighbors voted for the marriage ban, and they are now angry that they have been laid off.
///Idiots.
////Did they think the factory owner would just suck it up?
 
2014-06-25 06:58:31 PM  

dr_blasto: olomana: GA offers incentives including tax breaks with no union interference. Without standard union rules deaths like the one on the Midnight Rider film wouldn't have happened or would be less likely.

Your last sentence makes no sense. The PA killed in production of that film was killed in GA, ostensibly without union interference. I'd expect that union rules might actually reduce accidents like that and likely wouldn't contribute to more accidents.


My sentences rarely make sense. But you seem to have stated what I was trying express.
 
2014-06-25 06:59:38 PM  

olomana: dr_blasto: olomana: GA offers incentives including tax breaks with no union interference. Without standard union rules deaths like the one on the Midnight Rider film wouldn't have happened or would be less likely.

Your last sentence makes no sense. The PA killed in production of that film was killed in GA, ostensibly without union interference. I'd expect that union rules might actually reduce accidents like that and likely wouldn't contribute to more accidents.

My sentences rarely make sense. But you seem to have stated what I was trying express.


Ah, a simple inadvertent double negative then.
 
2014-06-25 07:00:12 PM  

dr_blasto: Infernalist: Now that I think about it, there's a LOT of effort put forth portraying courageous police officers out there.

That's because prime time always starts with a half-hour TV show about cops randomly tasing and beating people.


That shaky-cam 'reality' thing always pisses me off.  None of those cops on that show look like Castle or that gothy chick from NCIS.
 
2014-06-25 07:00:19 PM  
Basically with not without. We are on the same page. I am a biatchallenged.
 
2014-06-25 07:00:58 PM  

Infernalist: Now that I think about it, there's a LOT of effort put forth portraying courageous police officers out there.


Shows about cops shooting dogs or writing bullshiat tickets probably wouldn't get good ratings.
 
2014-06-25 07:02:07 PM  

olomana: Basically with not without. We are on the same page. I am a biatchallenged.


You see, i am biatch allenged.
 
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