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(Huffington Post)   GOP lawmaker is pretty sure that 'sexual orientation' includes incest, bestiality and pedophelia   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 103
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2014-06-26 04:55:51 PM  

worlddan: COMALite J: For shame! Neither TFA nor the FARK comments here mentions the word "paraphilia"?


FOR SHAME!!

As if its that simple.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/apa-correct-manual-c la rification-pedophilia-not-se/

The fact is that any distinction between any of the items you listed is arbitrary, capricious, and without any foundation in either psychology or scientific fact.  The APA will do whatever it takes to keep its monopoly going, that's the only thing one needs to know.

No, neither arbitrary nor capricious, and yes, well grounded in psychology and scientific evidence (there's no such thing as "scientific fact"). We have substantial scientific evidence that orientations are indeed congenital (meaning you're born with them, regardless of what actually causes them ― other non-genetic yet congenital conditions include birth defects from the mother having contracted rubella ["German measles"] during the first trimester, spina bifida and other neural tube defects caused by the mother having insufficient folate, Rhesus-factor blood incompatibility between mother and fetus [Rh+ father's sperm causes Rh+ fetus in an Rh− mother, whose antibodies then attack the fetus as an invader], Thalidomide® babies [duh!] Fetal Alcohol Syndrome [FAS ― duh!], etc. etc. etc.), while paraphilias are not but are acquired in childhood (e.g. boys who've been molested being more likely to become pedophiles, though the biggest factor in all paraphilias appears to be spending early childhood in a sexually repressed environment, inhibiting normal psychosexual development and the ability of the child to give and receive love in a normal, healthy manner).
 
2014-06-26 06:50:49 PM  
In a psychological sense, yes, a variety of paraphilia including attraction to children, relatives, animals, and inanimate objects contribute towards sexual orientation.

But in the context of law, it's implicit and obvious that illegal behaviors cannot be protected.
 
2014-06-27 01:32:09 AM  

Taxbongo: While consensual incest does make me a bit queezy, just because its gross isnt a valid reason to outlaw it.


Here's a reason to outlaw:  If incest were legal, then some fathers  would groom their daughters for sexual service when they came of legal age.  You can pretty much put money on that.  And there would be little to nothing anyone could do to stop it.

It's pretty much the main reason we can't legalize polyamorous marriages -- religious polygamists would be all over that shiat, and the consequences for women and children are already well known and not acceptable.
 
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