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(Entertainment Weekly)   "I'd like to apologize to the Jews running Hollywood for saying that the Jews run Hollywood"   (popwatch.ew.com ) divider line
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2014-06-25 09:21:54 PM  

H31N0US: "The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people"

This is what some Jewish people actually believe.


That's the sentence that looks to me like a big middle finger.  But the whole subject is bs anyway.
 
2014-06-25 09:29:05 PM  
I'm with the own it crowd. I understood the underlying message in the Playboy interview. Maybe it's all that white privelidge I have. Allows me to see through the racism.
 
2014-06-25 09:37:30 PM  
He should have taken his own advice...

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2014-06-25 11:28:05 PM  
i thought chartered accountants ran Hollywood
 
2014-06-25 11:33:26 PM  
The real shame is that Oldman said he likes Charles Krauthammer.  fark this guy...he can act, but he's a cock-pimple.
 
2014-06-25 11:58:04 PM  

SubBass49: The real shame is that Oldman said he likes Charles Krauthammer.  fark this guy...he can act, but he's a cock-pimple.


This.
 
2014-06-26 12:00:02 AM  
nimawai:
MagSeven: nimawai: I'd have more respect for him if he said "Yep I said those things & I stand by every word I said." instead of some drawn up apology that everyone knows he doesn't mean.

The ONLY reason I have any respect for crazy as fark Mel Gibson is that he owns up to a bit of his crap and it like "yeah, so what? I am a racist, misogynist  fark and I son't give a shiat."

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery. I got called a lot of thing the kindest being a slut shamer. Almost said "if the shoe fits" but I didn't. I stood my ground and stood by everything I said.

Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.

Gibson did have a public apology tour (two if I recall correctly) and didn't own up to his words. He called it temporary insanity.

I thought I remembered him owning up to some of his bad behavior. Maybe I was wrong.


Well then, you need to apologize *right now* for your mistake!
Assuming you're mistaken
 
2014-06-26 12:21:47 AM  

Rapmaster2000: mongbiohazard: Uncle Pooky: mongbiohazard: tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.

Was it really that bad? I haven't read what he's apologizing for and TFA didn't explain or link to anything which does.

you must have missed the first paragraph of the TFA then.

No I didn't miss that. And I just went and doublechecked.

It only broadly mentions what he said in general terms, but no quotes so I have no way of knowing how accurate their summary and how shiatty what he said was or wasn't.

Great stuff right here:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/10921952/Gary-Oldmans-outrage o us-Playboy-interview-best-quotes.html

Gary Oldman really sticks it to society, man.  He doesn't care whose toes he steps on.  Gary Oldman is totally in your face!Gary Oldman tells it like it is!



lol!
ZOMG, he's a Dunning-Kruger dummy. A DKD, if you will. Not so much intentionally shiatty, but rebelliously dumb. And just a little shiatty.
 
2014-06-26 12:44:38 AM  
This seems like a question begging for an obvious answer. Who are the powers  that run Hollywood, and which one isn't a Jew?
 
2014-06-26 02:36:32 AM  
The power of suggestion won't convince you of how good this phony apology is. It's designed for people who form their own opinions, so go ahead - ask the internet.
 
2014-06-26 02:57:00 AM  

tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.


Yup, I did too.  Up to page 4, I hadn't agreed with all his views (and in fact found some of them fundamentally misguided, especially when it comes to "politically correct" issues), but thought he did just fine in speaking his mind.  Opinionated, yes, salty, yes, but didn't cross any lines.  I was with him up to that point, wondering what all the fuss was about.  And then, page 4 and page 5.  Hoo boy.  Saying, "We've all said/thought things like that before," is just like saying, "I have friends who are black" - it's just a huge red flag that lets me know what you're about to say next is probably something no civilized person wants to hear.  And sure enough, that's right where he went.  No, Gary and other bigots, we have not all said or thought things like that before, and I find it morbidly amusing that you live in a world where you truly believe that everyone - everyone - has.  That's why, to some of us, when such things are said in public, we're so shocked by it.  And it has nothing to do with some kind of inappropriate "political correctness".  It has everything to do with it being hard to believe that there are people who think such vile thoughts, or worse, express them out loud.

I love your acting buddy.  Please don't make me dislike your person.  And this "apology" sucked, a real non-apology apology if I've ever heard one.
 
2014-06-26 03:07:15 AM  

nimawai: Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.


So, you respect people who, when they make a mistake, continue to double-down on that mistake, don't take any accountability or responsibility, and don't apologize for committing it?

That's funny.  I have much more respect for people who are brave enough to admit their mistakes, take full responsibility and apologize for it.  The art of apology is a lost art these days, unfortunately, so when someone can deliver a good one (and this was not a good one), I have a lot of respect for that.

Apologizing - really apologizing - is hard.  Genuinely owning up to a mistake is a tough thing to do.  Standing by your mistake is easy, and cowardly.  Most people who stand by their mistakes even know that they're doing it, and they know that it's wrong, but they do it anyway out of some misguided attempt to "save face", even though they're actually doing nothing of the kind.  Our world, especially politically, is filled with such obvious examples of this, and they all make the world a worse place.  What the fark is there to respect about that?

I find nothing respectable about standing your ground when your ground is quicksand.
 
2014-06-26 04:35:22 AM  

karmachameleon: nimawai: Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.

So, you respect people who, when they make a mistake, continue to double-down on that mistake, don't take any accountability or responsibility, and don't apologize for committing it?

That's funny.  I have much more respect for people who are brave enough to admit their mistakes, take full responsibility and apologize for it.  The art of apology is a lost art these days, unfortunately, so when someone can deliver a good one (and this was not a good one), I have a lot of respect for that.

Apologizing - really apologizing - is hard.  Genuinely owning up to a mistake is a tough thing to do.  Standing by your mistake is easy, and cowardly.  Most people who stand by their mistakes even know that they're doing it, and they know that it's wrong, but they do it anyway out of some misguided attempt to "save face", even though they're actually doing nothing of the kind.  Our world, especially politically, is filled with such obvious examples of this, and they all make the world a worse place.  What the fark is there to respect about that?

I find nothing respectable about standing your ground when your ground is quicksand.


I'd rather have someone stand their ground than to give some fake apology. These people are buckling to the pressures of others around them. I find weakness in that.

As I said earlier I may not agree with the person but I have a small bit of respect for someone willing to say "this is who I am. I don't care if you like it or not." I thoroughly disagree with Charlton Heston but I can respect that he's not willing to back down.

IF an apology is sincere then bring it on. I love when people can see the error of their ways. What I don't love is people trying to blow smoke up my hiney and try to placate the masses by cow towing and giving a fake apology. Just win favor with the crowds.
 
2014-06-26 04:54:37 AM  

nimawai: karmachameleon: nimawai: Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.

So, you respect people who, when they make a mistake, continue to double-down on that mistake, don't take any accountability or responsibility, and don't apologize for committing it?

That's funny.  I have much more respect for people who are brave enough to admit their mistakes, take full responsibility and apologize for it.  The art of apology is a lost art these days, unfortunately, so when someone can deliver a good one (and this was not a good one), I have a lot of respect for that.

Apologizing - really apologizing - is hard.  Genuinely owning up to a mistake is a tough thing to do.  Standing by your mistake is easy, and cowardly.  Most people who stand by their mistakes even know that they're doing it, and they know that it's wrong, but they do it anyway out of some misguided attempt to "save face", even though they're actually doing nothing of the kind.  Our world, especially politically, is filled with such obvious examples of this, and they all make the world a worse place.  What the fark is there to respect about that?

I find nothing respectable about standing your ground when your ground is quicksand.

I'd rather have someone stand their ground than to give some fake apology. These people are buckling to the pressures of others around them. I find weakness in that.

As I said earlier I may not agree with the person but I have a small bit of respect for someone willing to say "this is who I am. I don't care if you like it or not." I thoroughly disagree with Charlton Heston but I can respect that he's not willing to back down.

IF an apology is sincere then bring it on. I love when people can see the error of their ways. What I don't love is people trying to blow ...


I will agree that issuing a fake apology, or a non-apology apology (which is what Oldman's "apology" reads like a classic case of), is bad also.  I would say it's just as bad as standing by your mistake, so it seems that's where we'd differ, since I have no more respect for standing by a mistake than I do for a fake apology.

And I understand you're not necessarily that's respectable either (you said "a small bit of respect").  I do also agree that buckling is weakness.  What constitutes strength is being able to look in the mirror and say, "Yeah, ok, I farked up."  That is deserving of respect, no matter how wrong they were to start with.
 
2014-06-26 07:48:11 AM  
Fark Hollywood. Cliche upon cliche and stereotypical role models shoehorned into every story.

covers.openlibrary.orgencrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

// Some good stuff ,but not this shiat designed and marketed by committee.
 
2014-06-26 07:59:26 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: You should speak your mind more often. Modern society has become to sterile. young people especially seem to think that having hurt feelings and being offended gives them some kind of high ground, It doesn't.


Just be ready for knives in your back.
 
2014-06-26 09:31:38 AM  
yes, let's not speak the truth for fear it'll piss people off. I mean jewish people are white. I thought it was ok to tell the truth about white people?
 
2014-06-26 12:24:39 PM  

Big Beef Burrito: So, which ones of the guys that are in charge are Jewish?


Most of the studio heads. You don't bite the hand that gives you manna.
 
2014-06-26 12:40:22 PM  
The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people.

F**k you Gary. F**K you very much.

My company is owned and staffed mostly by hassids. They made all of their money in the 80' and 90's by STEALING electricity to power the machines. They are no better than anyone else on the planet. maybe if they stopped saying they were chosen and no one else is going to heaven the whole world wouldn't try to eradicate them.
 
2014-06-26 07:06:48 PM  
My favorite part about this and the other Oldman thread is that a few Farkers have mentioned how the whole "Jews run Hollywood" bit is an actual thing. Like Oldman is the very first person to issue that line.
 
2014-06-26 09:44:55 PM  

Lsherm: Jews don't "run" Hollywood.  There's no Jew agenda.  They are heavily represented in the industry because it was one of the few places Russian Jewish immigrants settled into at the turn of the century.  They give jobs to people they know - other Jews - and that keeps them heavily represented in the industry.  But it's not like there's a cabal with an endgame controlling all the media coming out of Hollywood.  If anything, money runs Hollywood.


This, frankly. It's a coincidence of culture and social groups. Folks need to stop looking for the zebra of contrived religious treachery, when the horse of money has always been the driving force.
 
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