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2014-06-25 10:37:34 AM  
Harvey Weinstein runs Hollywood. I mean, Oldman's facts check out...
 
2014-06-25 12:03:35 PM  
We live in fear.
 
2014-06-25 12:20:20 PM  
Just stop talking, Mr.Oldman.  Just stick to the script.
 
2014-06-25 12:24:27 PM  
I bet the Jews... oh.
 
2014-06-25 12:25:19 PM  
Anyone got that pic of the jews that run the music business from dewey cox?
 
2014-06-25 12:25:38 PM  
I came for a pic of officer sugar-tits and I'm leaving disappointed.
 
2014-06-25 12:25:46 PM  
Gary, not so much for you with the talking.
 
2014-06-25 12:26:10 PM  
Wow. That's extremely well written.
I wonder who wrote it.

/we all knew this mea culpa was coming
 
2014-06-25 12:27:36 PM  
I wish one time a celbrity would just say fark it and own their comments. The "apology" always sounds like BS. would they apologize if they werent catching shiat for it?
 
2014-06-25 12:31:37 PM  
You're a monster, Zorg.
 
2014-06-25 12:35:50 PM  
Why do such great actors think they are good at improv? Goddamitsomuch, he's an amazing actor.
 
2014-06-25 12:36:33 PM  
So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.
 
2014-06-25 12:40:02 PM  

AeAe: So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.


I heard that Grown Ups 3 is in production.
 
2014-06-25 12:41:11 PM  
So..... he badmouthed his employers and is now concerned about his career......


/been there, done that
 
2014-06-25 12:42:02 PM  
So, which ones of the guys that are in charge are Jewish?
 
2014-06-25 12:45:46 PM  
"The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people"

This is what some Jewish people actually believe.
 
2014-06-25 12:45:50 PM  
So we have a group whose profession is saying words written by other people. When they start to speak on their own, you see why their livelihood depends on saying what's written for them.

Not saying all actors are idiots. But they generally are much better at saying their lines then speaking their minds.
 
2014-06-25 12:48:29 PM  
Schwarzenegger's actual line was "Get to the Hoopah!"
 
2014-06-25 12:48:52 PM  
"You know who runs Hollywood?"

www.dvdizzy.com

..."The Jews?"

"THE JAPANESE."
 
2014-06-25 12:49:09 PM  

H31N0US: "The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people"

This is what some Jewish people actually believe.


That part was so over the top ridiculous, I fully believe it was a backhanded comment in the middle of the apology.  In a formal apology like that, it is eye-rolling worthy.
 
2014-06-25 12:49:24 PM  
Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.
 
2014-06-25 12:49:42 PM  

beerrun: You're a monster, Zorg.


*sigh* He knows.
 
2014-06-25 12:49:58 PM  

beerrun: You're a monster, Zorg.


I know.
 
2014-06-25 12:50:00 PM  
Pictured: the only one who cares.
img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-06-25 12:50:34 PM  

Bslim: beerrun: You're a monster, Zorg.

*sigh* He knows.


Gahh sixteen seconds!
 
2014-06-25 12:51:38 PM  

BafflerMeal: H31N0US: "The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people"

This is what some Jewish people actually believe.

That part was so over the top ridiculous, I fully believe it was a backhanded comment in the middle of the apology.  In a formal apology like that, it is eye-rolling worthy.


If he believed it he'd be converting to Judaism right now.
 
2014-06-25 12:56:48 PM  

tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.


Was it really that bad? I haven't read what he's apologizing for and TFA didn't explain or link to anything which does.
 
2014-06-25 12:59:53 PM  
Who in their right mind buys any of these apologies, and why the hell is the ADL wasting their time demanding some faux-apology in the first place? Just like when Tracy Morgan was forced to "apologize" to a couple of loud LGBT groups - does anyone think these are sincere and that they're worth anyone's time?

Grow thicker skin, you babies.

/at least it's not the heavy hand of the state censoring anything
 
2014-06-25 01:03:23 PM  

Chagrin: AeAe: So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.

I heard that Grown Ups 3 is in production.


Hey, it'll make bank.
 
2014-06-25 01:06:39 PM  

Hydra: Who in their right mind buys any of these apologies, and why the hell is the ADL wasting their time demanding some faux-apology in the first place? Just like when Tracy Morgan was forced to "apologize" to a couple of loud LGBT groups - does anyone think these are sincere and that they're worth anyone's time?

Grow thicker skin, you babies.

/at least it's not the heavy hand of the state censoring anything


I don't think anyone does, but it's fun to make idiots bow when they realize not everyone is going to clap like a seal at their dumb shiat.

Seriously, look at this guy.  He says "we're all hypocrites" as if he's come upon some profound truth that was going to blow the lid off the facade of society and really stick it to the man.

He sounds about as wise as a teenager.
 
2014-06-25 01:07:51 PM  

mongbiohazard: tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.

Was it really that bad? I haven't read what he's apologizing for and TFA didn't explain or link to anything which does.


you must have missed the first paragraph of the TFA then.
 
2014-06-25 01:08:14 PM  
What I'm about to say is so shocking and offensive, you might want to close your eyes or your browser. Still here? Okay, don't say I didn't warn you...Blacks dominate the NBA.
 
2014-06-25 01:16:42 PM  

Uncle Pooky: mongbiohazard: tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.

Was it really that bad? I haven't read what he's apologizing for and TFA didn't explain or link to anything which does.

you must have missed the first paragraph of the TFA then.


No I didn't miss that. And I just went and doublechecked.

It only broadly mentions what he said in general terms, but no quotes so I have no way of knowing how accurate their summary and how shiatty what he said was or wasn't.
 
2014-06-25 01:18:04 PM  
I'd have more respect for him if he said "Yep I said those things & I stand by every word I said." instead of some drawn up apology that everyone knows he doesn't mean.

The ONLY reason I have any respect for crazy as fark Mel Gibson is that he owns up to a bit of his crap and it like "yeah, so what? I am a racist, misogynist  fark and I son't give a shiat."

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery. I got called a lot of thing the kindest being a slut shamer. Almost said "if the shoe fits" but I didn't. I stood my ground and stood by everything I said.

Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.
 
2014-06-25 01:18:52 PM  
The only thing he left out was, "Some of my best friends are Jews."
 
2014-06-25 01:23:02 PM  

H31N0US: "The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people"

This is what some Jewish people actually believe.


There are many Jews in powerful positions - Spielberg, Kaplan, those 2 brothers that run that studio, Adam Sandler, etc., Oprah, Larry King.
 
2014-06-25 01:23:43 PM  

mongbiohazard: Uncle Pooky: mongbiohazard: tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.

Was it really that bad? I haven't read what he's apologizing for and TFA didn't explain or link to anything which does.

you must have missed the first paragraph of the TFA then.

No I didn't miss that. And I just went and doublechecked.

It only broadly mentions what he said in general terms, but no quotes so I have no way of knowing how accurate their summary and how shiatty what he said was or wasn't.


Great stuff right here:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/10921952/Gary-Oldmans-outrage o us-Playboy-interview-best-quotes.html

Gary Oldman really sticks it to society, man.  He doesn't care whose toes he steps on.  Gary Oldman is totally in your face!Gary Oldman tells it like it is!
 
2014-06-25 01:24:27 PM  

browntimmy: What I'm about to say is so shocking and offensive, you might want to close your eyes or your browser. Still here? Okay, don't say I didn't warn you...Blacks dominate the NBA.


Blacks don't dominate in the NBA, they just get paid a lot to play.
 
2014-06-25 01:25:32 PM  

AeAe: So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.


Short answer is this guys career has been snipped.
 
2014-06-25 01:26:54 PM  
You can say that Jewish people are heavily represented in the entertainment media, but you can't say that the Jews run Hollywood. The latter suggests that they all gather at a fiendish synagogue once a month and decide white guilt production quotas.
 
2014-06-25 01:27:56 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: AeAe: So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.

Short answer is this guys career has been snipped.


I doubt it.  He's pretty popular.
 
2014-06-25 01:27:57 PM  
nimawai:

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery.

Protip:  guys just say that because it sounds better.  They just don't want their wives dressing that way.

There's a reason Sports Illustrated has a swimsuit edition and not a comfy pajamas edition.
 
2014-06-25 01:41:20 PM  
GARY OLDMAN DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME FOR THIS MICKEY MOUSE BULLSHIAT!!!
 
2014-06-25 01:41:30 PM  

Rapmaster2000: mongbiohazard: Uncle Pooky: mongbiohazard: tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.

Was it really that bad? I haven't read what he's apologizing for and TFA didn't explain or link to anything which does.

you must have missed the first paragraph of the TFA then.

No I didn't miss that. And I just went and doublechecked.

It only broadly mentions what he said in general terms, but no quotes so I have no way of knowing how accurate their summary and how shiatty what he said was or wasn't.

Great stuff right here:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/10921952/Gary-Oldmans-outrage o us-Playboy-interview-best-quotes.html

Gary Oldman really sticks it to society, man.  He doesn't care whose toes he steps on.  Gary Oldman is totally in your face!Gary Oldman tells it like it is!


Oldman appears to be the hatingist hater that ever hated
 
2014-06-25 01:44:22 PM  
If what was in the headline was actually what he said, he'd be my new hero.  Own what you said, if you meant it.  Sick of the forced apologies.
 
2014-06-25 01:45:21 PM  

AeAe: AlwaysRightBoy: AeAe: So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.

Short answer is this guys career has been snipped.

I doubt it.  He's pretty popular.


Hollyweird being Hollyweird, anything can happen.
 
2014-06-25 01:46:36 PM  
Sorry. I meant Wall Street.
 
2014-06-25 01:48:37 PM  

Detinwolf: Chagrin: AeAe: So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.
I heard that Grown Ups 3 is in production.
Hey, it'll make bank.

I'm sure. I'm always amused by people complaining about how much movies suck, then the next thread there's 250 comments about the latest crapfest that just opened. Somebody is watching these movies.

/and it's half of Fark, at least
 
2014-06-25 01:59:47 PM  

i.imgur.com

 
2014-06-25 02:05:15 PM  
Now Gary Oldman will die without ever winning an Oscar.
 
2014-06-25 02:07:52 PM  

mongbiohazard: tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.

Was it really that bad? I haven't read what he's apologizing for and TFA didn't explain or link to anything which does.


He thinks Mel was just stressed out
Jews run Hollywood and hate whitey
And sugar tits are delicious
 
2014-06-25 02:08:07 PM  
He just comes off as more of an opinionated dick than anything else.  And you know what else, there actually are a lot of Jews in positions of power in the film industry.  I'm not saying it's run by some super secret Jewish cabal or that those that are in power got there through more nefarious means than, as an example, highly placed people in manufacturing.  But they're there.  They're real.
 
2014-06-25 02:09:51 PM  

nimawai: I'd have more respect for him if he said "Yep I said those things & I stand by every word I said." instead of some drawn up apology that everyone knows he doesn't mean.

The ONLY reason I have any respect for crazy as fark Mel Gibson is that he owns up to a bit of his crap and it like "yeah, so what? I am a racist, misogynist  fark and I son't give a shiat."

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery. I got called a lot of thing the kindest being a slut shamer. Almost said "if the shoe fits" but I didn't. I stood my ground and stood by everything I said.

Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.


You should speak your mind more often. Modern society has become to sterile. young people especially seem to think that having hurt feelings and being offended gives them some kind of high ground, It doesn't.

if someone is so offended by something that was said that they have to say so then it is them with the problem and not you.

The truth hurts and crying about it because it sounds mean is the mark of a child in an adults body.
 
2014-06-25 02:12:57 PM  

mcmnky: So we have a group whose profession is saying words written by other people. When they start to speak on their own, you see why their livelihood depends on saying what's written for them.

Not saying all actors are idiots. But they generally are much better at saying their lines then speaking their minds.


"It's about time the piano realized it has not written the concerto!"
Lloyd Richards, "All About Eve"
 
2014-06-25 02:13:31 PM  

mistrmind: I came for a pic of officer sugar-tits and I'm leaving disappointed.


tinyarena: And sugar tits are delicious


pdxretro.com
"Can't get enough of those sug-ar tiiiiiits..."
 
2014-06-25 02:14:13 PM  

devilEther: [i.imgur.com image 500x289]


Is that from The Believer?

// GREAT film
 
2014-06-25 02:19:34 PM  

BafflerMeal: H31N0US: "The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people"

This is what some Jewish people actually believe.

That part was so over the top ridiculous, I fully believe it was a backhanded comment in the middle of the apology.  In a formal apology like that, it is eye-rolling worthy.


"I would like to sign off with 'Shalom Aleichem' - but under the circumstances, perhaps today I lose the right to use that phrase, so I will wish you all peace."

Yeah, he's a dick who is pissed that he has to apologize. The phrase is Hebrew, used largely as a greeting (not even liturgical*) meaning "Peace to you". The response, just by-the-by, is "Aleichem shalom" - "To you, peace". I suspect Mr Oldman was not thinking of peace, exactly, when he issued this apology.

*apart from a prayer blessing the New Moon. After the prayer, you greet 3 people by moonlight.

// if I said something that offended Abe Foxman, I'd tell him to go fark himself
// if I said something offensive, I'd apologize
 
2014-06-25 02:22:10 PM  

Chagrin: AeAe: So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.

I heard that Grown Ups 3 is in production.


Ugh.  That's worse than killing Jesus!
 
2014-06-25 02:28:28 PM  

Dr Dreidel: I would like to sign off with 'Shalom Aleichem' - but under the circumstances, perhaps today I lose the right to use that phrase, so I will wish you all peace."
Yeah, he's a dick who is pissed that he has to apologize. The phrase is Hebrew, used largely as a greeting (not even liturgical*) meaning "Peace to you". The response, just by-the-by, is "Aleichem shalom" - "To you, peace". I suspect Mr Oldman was not thinking of peace, exactly, when he issued this apology.


It just sounds like a really snotty statement, even if I have no idea what it means. Like "oh, here's this Jewish line, but I can't use it, because you guys are so special only jews get to say it."
 
2014-06-25 02:30:10 PM  

CaptainScrewy: Chagrin: AeAe: So the Jews run Hollywood.  So?  Are they doing a good job?  Then carry on.

I heard that Grown Ups 3 is in production.

Ugh.  That's worse than killing Jesus!


nice.
 
2014-06-25 02:31:29 PM  
Jews don't "run" Hollywood.  There's no Jew agenda.  They are heavily represented in the industry because it was one of the few places Russian Jewish immigrants settled into at the turn of the century.  They give jobs to people they know - other Jews - and that keeps them heavily represented in the industry.  But it's not like there's a cabal with an endgame controlling all the media coming out of Hollywood.  If anything, money runs Hollywood.
 
2014-06-25 02:32:24 PM  
Oldman, look at my life.
I'm a lot like you were.  Neil Young Neal Gabler

www.radioislam.org

The nuance here is being able to differentiate the subtlety between. "The Jews Run Hollywood!" and the fact that most of the early Hollywood studio heads and theater chain owners were Jewish immigrants.

 Gary Oldman is such a good actor, he convinced me that he was Mel Gibson. I think we all know that Mel Gibson can't be a racist because he is a Christian... and Christ taught about forgiveness. But you'd know that if you hadn't killed Christ you JEW BASTARDS!

You know, the real lesson to be learned here is all about forgiveness and tolerance. And that Keanu Reeves is not a Jew.... but Alex Winter is. So I have to ask myself why Alex didn't get any help in his acting career from the imagined great Super-Secret Jewish-controlled Hollywood conspiracy. And then it dawned on me... because Alex Winter would not sleep with David Geffen.
 
2014-06-25 02:38:40 PM  
You know who else blamed everything on a book?
 
2014-06-25 02:38:46 PM  
Whenever someone who draws an income from a particular industry makes a politically incorrect statement about that industry, I perceive the accuracy of that statement based on the level of outrage and the speed of the retraction and apology.
 
2014-06-25 02:40:12 PM  

Jingle Strangle: Now Gary Oldman will die without ever winning an Oscar.


Maybe Gary can stick his fist up Jodi Fosters beaver
 
2014-06-25 02:40:13 PM  
Oh, he was just rehearsing for the updated remake of:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-25 02:42:24 PM  
Adam Sandler's movie career
img.fark.net

Adam Sandler's music career
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Jon Stewart
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The Daily Show
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Natalie Portman, not talking
www.wallpaperfly.com

Natalie Portman, talking
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Clinton with that skank Monica instead of a Marilyn Monroe type
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2014-06-25 02:42:47 PM  

Mirrorz: Harvey Weinstein runs Hollywood. I mean, Oldman's facts check out...


I thought Rob Schneider ran Hollywood.
 
2014-06-25 02:52:49 PM  
Only way he can top this PR disaster is if he did an updated, big budget theatrical version of 'Innocence Of Muslims'.
 
2014-06-25 03:01:40 PM  
Furthermore:
i.imgflip.com
i.imgflip.com
 
2014-06-25 03:04:06 PM  
he really should have played the alcoholic card and spent a few weeks at some rehab resort. It's a much better excuse than "I am a terrible person but I've seen the error of my ways" excuse
 
2014-06-25 03:12:59 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Hydra: Who in their right mind buys any of these apologies, and why the hell is the ADL wasting their time demanding some faux-apology in the first place? Just like when Tracy Morgan was forced to "apologize" to a couple of loud LGBT groups - does anyone think these are sincere and that they're worth anyone's time?

Grow thicker skin, you babies.

/at least it's not the heavy hand of the state censoring anything

I don't think anyone does, but it's fun to make idiots bow when they realize not everyone is going to clap like a seal at their dumb shiat.

Seriously, look at this guy.  He says "we're all hypocrites" as if he's come upon some profound truth that was going to blow the lid off the facade of society and really stick it to the man.

He sounds about as wise as a teenager.


What do you mean everyone?

EVERYONE!
 
2014-06-25 03:41:34 PM  

Rapmaster2000: nimawai:

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery.

Protip:  guys just say that because it sounds better.  They just don't want their wives dressing that way.

There's a reason Sports Illustrated has a swimsuit edition and not a comfy pajamas edition.


But would you bring home a girl wearing no more than a wash cloth sized outfit home to mom? These girls think that dressing and acting skanky is going to get them a man. Yeah it will get them in bed but not much further.
 
2014-06-25 03:46:50 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: nimawai: I'd have more respect for him if he said "Yep I said those things & I stand by every word I said." instead of some drawn up apology that everyone knows he doesn't mean.

The ONLY reason I have any respect for crazy as fark Mel Gibson is that he owns up to a bit of his crap and it like "yeah, so what? I am a racist, misogynist  fark and I son't give a shiat."

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery. I got called a lot of thing the kindest being a slut shamer. Almost said "if the shoe fits" but I didn't. I stood my ground and stood by everything I said.

Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.

You should speak your mind more often. Modern society has become to sterile. young people especially seem to think that having hurt feelings and being offended gives them some kind of high ground, It doesn't.

if someone is so offended by something that was said that they have to say so then it is them with the problem and not you.

The truth hurts and crying about it because it sounds mean is the mark of a child in an adults body.


I've always said I'd rather be hurt by the truth than devastated by a lie. Which is kind of the same thing here. It's about speaking your truth and having the courage to stand by your convictions. If you get hurt so be it. It's much better than someone trying to blow smoke up your hiney so your precious snowflake feelings don't get hurt. I didn't say if the shoe fits because I was tired of trying to argue with stupid. lol
 
2014-06-25 04:00:37 PM  
Go work in a warehouse, Gary. No one will give sh*t what you say.
 
2014-06-25 04:02:12 PM  
nimawai:

But would you bring home a girl wearing no more than a wash cloth sized outfit home to mom? These girls think that dressing and acting skanky is going to get them a man. Yeah it will get them in bed but not much further.

I think your problem here is assuming mutual exclusivity between the two.  In addition, you've attempted to create a very simple dichotomy.   It's far more complex than that

Especially when it comes to young men, but among men of all ages, skin works very frequently.  Skin often puts on a shirt and gets taken home to mom.

If skin didn't work, women wouldn't do it.
 
2014-06-25 04:11:57 PM  
I stand by my statement in the other thread that the phrasing of "the Jews run Hollywood" is unpalatable, that it makes it sound like they're an elite cabal. And yes, it sounds anti-Semitic, whether you mean to be or not. Again, what if Eminem caused a huge controversy by ranting about black people a la Michael Richards and then white people came to his defense by claiming that "the blacks who run the hip-hop scene" were out to ruin him? You would be suspicious of those white people and their motives, especially if you were black. Don't deny it.
 
2014-06-25 04:25:10 PM  
I doubt anyone will go see Dawn of the Panel of the Apes in light of this scandal.
 
2014-06-25 04:40:37 PM  

Casey Anthony: I doubt anyone will go see Dawn of the Panel of the Apes in light of this scandal.


In fairness, subduing a panel of apes doesn't seem all that exciting.
 
2014-06-25 04:41:49 PM  
i.imgur.com

I was looking for a "Jewish community frowns upon your shenanigans," but this was on the first page and I find it hilarious.
 
2014-06-25 04:52:26 PM  
When did we move from 'Everyone has prejudices, they are obviously bad and shouldn't be part of public discourse' to even mentioning you have prejudices should end with you burning at the stake of some kind of thought police inquisition?

In the last few weeks you've had Mark Cuban, Stephen A Smith, now Gary Oldman... It's really friggin ridiculous at this point.

I mean Oldman chose a really dumb example to try and make his argument that political correctness is strangling us all (Gibson is a racist piece of shiat, after all) and he could have used much better recent controversies than that one, but it's ridiculous that he needs to wring his hands and apologize over what was essentially true (aside from the Hollywood comment, which is only somewhat partly true and not inherently negative).
 
2014-06-25 04:53:26 PM  

someonelse: Casey Anthony: I doubt anyone will go see Dawn of the Panel of the Apes in light of this scandal.

In fairness, subduing a panel of apes doesn't seem all that exciting.


Sounds like a lot of poop flinging to me.
 
2014-06-25 05:04:54 PM  

Tatsuma: When did we move from 'Everyone has prejudices, they are obviously bad and shouldn't be part of public discourse' to even mentioning you have prejudices should end with you burning at the stake of some kind of thought police inquisition?


I think Oldman went a little bit further than just saying "Everyone has prejudices. I have prejudices." I remember his quotes and thinking "not that bad. not that bad. that might piss some people off. oooh, damn.... yeah, you can't say that, Gary."

Oldman himself even asked the interviewer to erase what he had said, because he knew how it sounded.
 
2014-06-25 05:11:09 PM  

Tatsuma: When did we move from 'Everyone has prejudices, they are obviously bad and shouldn't be part of public discourse' to even mentioning you have prejudices should end with you burning at the stake of some kind of thought police inquisition?


Relax with the hyperbole. Being on the sh*t list for one 24-hour news cycle is hardly being burned at the stake.
 
2014-06-25 05:18:57 PM  

Uncle Pooky: I think Oldman went a little bit further than just saying "Everyone has prejudices. I have prejudices." I remember his quotes and thinking "not that bad. not that bad. that might piss some people off. oooh, damn.... yeah, you can't say that, Gary."

Oldman himself even asked the interviewer to erase what he had said, because he knew how it sounded.


Yeah that's more or less what I remember from the interview too, but at the end of the day it's still not a huge deal in any way.

I'm just getting so sick of people not being able to say anything without the Twitter and Tumblr brigade getting their granny panties in a bunch over wrongthink. We've gone so terribly far from (not) Voltaire's hating what you have to say but defend your right to say it to the death it's just so frigging sad.

The constant pretend parade 'Oh no of course not I do not have any prejudices or bad thoughts ever how could I who do you think I am?' is sickening with its hypocrisy as well.
 
2014-06-25 05:33:08 PM  

Casey Anthony: I doubt anyone will go see Dawn of the Panel of the Apes in light of this scandal.


X-Men: DOFP got high numbers. DOTPOTA will be just fine. In our society racism is far less damaging than accusations of raping boys.
 
2014-06-25 05:38:23 PM  
People still read Playboy?
 
2014-06-25 06:24:09 PM  

nimawai: Casey Anthony: I doubt anyone will go see Dawn of the Panel of the Apes in light of this scandal.

X-Men: DOFP got high numbers. DOTPOTA will be just fine. In our society racism is far less damaging than accusations of raping boys.


it's time to step away from the keyboard.
 
2014-06-25 06:48:19 PM  

fusillade762: People still read Playboy?


People read playboy?
 
2014-06-25 06:49:08 PM  
Lost all respect for him now that he apologized.
 
2014-06-25 06:53:01 PM  

Uncle Pooky: nimawai: Casey Anthony: I doubt anyone will go see Dawn of the Panel of the Apes in light of this scandal.

X-Men: DOFP got high numbers. DOTPOTA will be just fine. In our society racism is far less damaging than accusations of raping boys.

it's time to step away from the keyboard.


I didn't say he did it. I said he was accused of it and it's true. On the scale of "bad things" racism ranks far below even being accused of raping someone.
 
2014-06-25 06:55:06 PM  

ununcle: fusillade762: People still read Playboy?

People read playboy?


Definitely. Why, where do you get your news? CNN? Lol.
 
2014-06-25 06:55:28 PM  
Ahhhhhh little sleep makes for punctuation mistakes.

Meant to say:
I said he was accused of it. It's true on the scale of "bad things" racism ranks far below even being accused of raping someone.
 
2014-06-25 07:00:47 PM  

Tatsuma: When did we move from 'Everyone has prejudices, they are obviously bad and shouldn't be part of public discourse' to even mentioning you have prejudices should end with you burning at the stake of some kind of thought police inquisition?


It was probably around the time special interests groups of minorities in society decided it should be illegal for white people to offend blacks, Jews, and gays.
 
2014-06-25 07:03:13 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: BafflerMeal: H31N0US: "The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people"

This is what some Jewish people actually believe.

That part was so over the top ridiculous, I fully believe it was a backhanded comment in the middle of the apology.  In a formal apology like that, it is eye-rolling worthy.

If he believed it he'd be converting to Judaism right now.


Maybe he doesn't want to talk to God.
 
2014-06-25 07:08:27 PM  

nimawai: I'd have more respect for him if he said "Yep I said those things & I stand by every word I said." instead of some drawn up apology that everyone knows he doesn't mean.

The ONLY reason I have any respect for crazy as fark Mel Gibson is that he owns up to a bit of his crap and it like "yeah, so what? I am a racist, misogynist  fark and I son't give a shiat."

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery. I got called a lot of thing the kindest being a slut shamer. Almost said "if the shoe fits" but I didn't. I stood my ground and stood by everything I said.

Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.


Gibson did have a public apology tour (two if I recall correctly) and didn't own up to his words. He called it temporary insanity.
 
2014-06-25 07:14:20 PM  

MagSeven: nimawai: I'd have more respect for him if he said "Yep I said those things & I stand by every word I said." instead of some drawn up apology that everyone knows he doesn't mean.

The ONLY reason I have any respect for crazy as fark Mel Gibson is that he owns up to a bit of his crap and it like "yeah, so what? I am a racist, misogynist  fark and I son't give a shiat."

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery. I got called a lot of thing the kindest being a slut shamer. Almost said "if the shoe fits" but I didn't. I stood my ground and stood by everything I said.

Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.

Gibson did have a public apology tour (two if I recall correctly) and didn't own up to his words. He called it temporary insanity.


I thought I remembered him owning up to some of his bad behavior. Maybe I was wrong.
 
2014-06-25 07:52:45 PM  

nimawai: Rapmaster2000: nimawai:

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery.

Protip:  guys just say that because it sounds better.  They just don't want their wives dressing that way.

There's a reason Sports Illustrated has a swimsuit edition and not a comfy pajamas edition.

But would you bring home a girl wearing no more than a wash cloth sized outfit home to mom? These girls think that dressing and acting skanky is going to get them a man. Yeah it will get them in bed but not much further.


Nothing wrong with sleeping around. You must have an easy life if this is such a troubling issue......or you're just someone that's easily riled up and likes to spout off. Chill out and get some friends.
 
2014-06-25 07:58:18 PM  

nimawai: Rapmaster2000: nimawai:

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery.

Protip:  guys just say that because it sounds better.  They just don't want their wives dressing that way.

There's a reason Sports Illustrated has a swimsuit edition and not a comfy pajamas edition.

But would you bring home a girl wearing no more than a wash cloth sized outfit home to mom? These girls think that dressing and acting skanky is going to get them a man. Yeah it will get them in bed but not much further.


As a wife who likes to wear skanky clothing while she works in the garden, you're a funny little person.
 
2014-06-25 09:05:06 PM  

nimawai: Rapmaster2000: nimawai:

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery.

Protip:  guys just say that because it sounds better.  They just don't want their wives dressing that way.

There's a reason Sports Illustrated has a swimsuit edition and not a comfy pajamas edition.

But would you bring home a girl wearing no more than a wash cloth sized outfit home to mom? These girls think that dressing and acting skanky is going to get them a man. Yeah it will get them in bed but not much further.


Lighten up old man.  Those girls are going to be paying for your social security in five years.
 
2014-06-25 09:21:54 PM  

H31N0US: "The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people"

This is what some Jewish people actually believe.


That's the sentence that looks to me like a big middle finger.  But the whole subject is bs anyway.
 
2014-06-25 09:29:05 PM  
I'm with the own it crowd. I understood the underlying message in the Playboy interview. Maybe it's all that white privelidge I have. Allows me to see through the racism.
 
2014-06-25 09:37:30 PM  
He should have taken his own advice...

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-25 11:28:05 PM  
i thought chartered accountants ran Hollywood
 
2014-06-25 11:33:26 PM  
The real shame is that Oldman said he likes Charles Krauthammer.  fark this guy...he can act, but he's a cock-pimple.
 
2014-06-25 11:58:04 PM  

SubBass49: The real shame is that Oldman said he likes Charles Krauthammer.  fark this guy...he can act, but he's a cock-pimple.


This.
 
2014-06-26 12:00:02 AM  
nimawai:
MagSeven: nimawai: I'd have more respect for him if he said "Yep I said those things & I stand by every word I said." instead of some drawn up apology that everyone knows he doesn't mean.

The ONLY reason I have any respect for crazy as fark Mel Gibson is that he owns up to a bit of his crap and it like "yeah, so what? I am a racist, misogynist  fark and I son't give a shiat."

I'm so damn tired of having to walk on egg shell by every word I say. The other day I got a verbal beat down for telling young girls that sometimes it's much sexier to not show off 80% of their body. That you men like a little mystery. I got called a lot of thing the kindest being a slut shamer. Almost said "if the shoe fits" but I didn't. I stood my ground and stood by everything I said.

Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.

Gibson did have a public apology tour (two if I recall correctly) and didn't own up to his words. He called it temporary insanity.

I thought I remembered him owning up to some of his bad behavior. Maybe I was wrong.


Well then, you need to apologize *right now* for your mistake!
Assuming you're mistaken
 
2014-06-26 12:21:47 AM  

Rapmaster2000: mongbiohazard: Uncle Pooky: mongbiohazard: tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.

Was it really that bad? I haven't read what he's apologizing for and TFA didn't explain or link to anything which does.

you must have missed the first paragraph of the TFA then.

No I didn't miss that. And I just went and doublechecked.

It only broadly mentions what he said in general terms, but no quotes so I have no way of knowing how accurate their summary and how shiatty what he said was or wasn't.

Great stuff right here:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/10921952/Gary-Oldmans-outrage o us-Playboy-interview-best-quotes.html

Gary Oldman really sticks it to society, man.  He doesn't care whose toes he steps on.  Gary Oldman is totally in your face!Gary Oldman tells it like it is!



lol!
ZOMG, he's a Dunning-Kruger dummy. A DKD, if you will. Not so much intentionally shiatty, but rebelliously dumb. And just a little shiatty.
 
2014-06-26 12:44:38 AM  
This seems like a question begging for an obvious answer. Who are the powers  that run Hollywood, and which one isn't a Jew?
 
2014-06-26 02:36:32 AM  
The power of suggestion won't convince you of how good this phony apology is. It's designed for people who form their own opinions, so go ahead - ask the internet.
 
2014-06-26 02:57:00 AM  

tinyarena: Just read the original interview. Yeah, he should shut up now.
And keep it shut.


Yup, I did too.  Up to page 4, I hadn't agreed with all his views (and in fact found some of them fundamentally misguided, especially when it comes to "politically correct" issues), but thought he did just fine in speaking his mind.  Opinionated, yes, salty, yes, but didn't cross any lines.  I was with him up to that point, wondering what all the fuss was about.  And then, page 4 and page 5.  Hoo boy.  Saying, "We've all said/thought things like that before," is just like saying, "I have friends who are black" - it's just a huge red flag that lets me know what you're about to say next is probably something no civilized person wants to hear.  And sure enough, that's right where he went.  No, Gary and other bigots, we have not all said or thought things like that before, and I find it morbidly amusing that you live in a world where you truly believe that everyone - everyone - has.  That's why, to some of us, when such things are said in public, we're so shocked by it.  And it has nothing to do with some kind of inappropriate "political correctness".  It has everything to do with it being hard to believe that there are people who think such vile thoughts, or worse, express them out loud.

I love your acting buddy.  Please don't make me dislike your person.  And this "apology" sucked, a real non-apology apology if I've ever heard one.
 
2014-06-26 03:07:15 AM  

nimawai: Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.


So, you respect people who, when they make a mistake, continue to double-down on that mistake, don't take any accountability or responsibility, and don't apologize for committing it?

That's funny.  I have much more respect for people who are brave enough to admit their mistakes, take full responsibility and apologize for it.  The art of apology is a lost art these days, unfortunately, so when someone can deliver a good one (and this was not a good one), I have a lot of respect for that.

Apologizing - really apologizing - is hard.  Genuinely owning up to a mistake is a tough thing to do.  Standing by your mistake is easy, and cowardly.  Most people who stand by their mistakes even know that they're doing it, and they know that it's wrong, but they do it anyway out of some misguided attempt to "save face", even though they're actually doing nothing of the kind.  Our world, especially politically, is filled with such obvious examples of this, and they all make the world a worse place.  What the fark is there to respect about that?

I find nothing respectable about standing your ground when your ground is quicksand.
 
2014-06-26 04:35:22 AM  

karmachameleon: nimawai: Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.

So, you respect people who, when they make a mistake, continue to double-down on that mistake, don't take any accountability or responsibility, and don't apologize for committing it?

That's funny.  I have much more respect for people who are brave enough to admit their mistakes, take full responsibility and apologize for it.  The art of apology is a lost art these days, unfortunately, so when someone can deliver a good one (and this was not a good one), I have a lot of respect for that.

Apologizing - really apologizing - is hard.  Genuinely owning up to a mistake is a tough thing to do.  Standing by your mistake is easy, and cowardly.  Most people who stand by their mistakes even know that they're doing it, and they know that it's wrong, but they do it anyway out of some misguided attempt to "save face", even though they're actually doing nothing of the kind.  Our world, especially politically, is filled with such obvious examples of this, and they all make the world a worse place.  What the fark is there to respect about that?

I find nothing respectable about standing your ground when your ground is quicksand.


I'd rather have someone stand their ground than to give some fake apology. These people are buckling to the pressures of others around them. I find weakness in that.

As I said earlier I may not agree with the person but I have a small bit of respect for someone willing to say "this is who I am. I don't care if you like it or not." I thoroughly disagree with Charlton Heston but I can respect that he's not willing to back down.

IF an apology is sincere then bring it on. I love when people can see the error of their ways. What I don't love is people trying to blow smoke up my hiney and try to placate the masses by cow towing and giving a fake apology. Just win favor with the crowds.
 
2014-06-26 04:54:37 AM  

nimawai: karmachameleon: nimawai: Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying on some level I respect a person who stands their ground. At least they have the "eggs" to stand by their convictions. Unlike this stupid PC world where everyone is apologizing every 5 minutes due to something they said.

So, you respect people who, when they make a mistake, continue to double-down on that mistake, don't take any accountability or responsibility, and don't apologize for committing it?

That's funny.  I have much more respect for people who are brave enough to admit their mistakes, take full responsibility and apologize for it.  The art of apology is a lost art these days, unfortunately, so when someone can deliver a good one (and this was not a good one), I have a lot of respect for that.

Apologizing - really apologizing - is hard.  Genuinely owning up to a mistake is a tough thing to do.  Standing by your mistake is easy, and cowardly.  Most people who stand by their mistakes even know that they're doing it, and they know that it's wrong, but they do it anyway out of some misguided attempt to "save face", even though they're actually doing nothing of the kind.  Our world, especially politically, is filled with such obvious examples of this, and they all make the world a worse place.  What the fark is there to respect about that?

I find nothing respectable about standing your ground when your ground is quicksand.

I'd rather have someone stand their ground than to give some fake apology. These people are buckling to the pressures of others around them. I find weakness in that.

As I said earlier I may not agree with the person but I have a small bit of respect for someone willing to say "this is who I am. I don't care if you like it or not." I thoroughly disagree with Charlton Heston but I can respect that he's not willing to back down.

IF an apology is sincere then bring it on. I love when people can see the error of their ways. What I don't love is people trying to blow ...


I will agree that issuing a fake apology, or a non-apology apology (which is what Oldman's "apology" reads like a classic case of), is bad also.  I would say it's just as bad as standing by your mistake, so it seems that's where we'd differ, since I have no more respect for standing by a mistake than I do for a fake apology.

And I understand you're not necessarily that's respectable either (you said "a small bit of respect").  I do also agree that buckling is weakness.  What constitutes strength is being able to look in the mirror and say, "Yeah, ok, I farked up."  That is deserving of respect, no matter how wrong they were to start with.
 
2014-06-26 07:48:11 AM  
Fark Hollywood. Cliche upon cliche and stereotypical role models shoehorned into every story.

covers.openlibrary.orgencrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

// Some good stuff ,but not this shiat designed and marketed by committee.
 
2014-06-26 07:59:26 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: You should speak your mind more often. Modern society has become to sterile. young people especially seem to think that having hurt feelings and being offended gives them some kind of high ground, It doesn't.


Just be ready for knives in your back.
 
2014-06-26 09:31:38 AM  
yes, let's not speak the truth for fear it'll piss people off. I mean jewish people are white. I thought it was ok to tell the truth about white people?
 
2014-06-26 12:24:39 PM  

Big Beef Burrito: So, which ones of the guys that are in charge are Jewish?


Most of the studio heads. You don't bite the hand that gives you manna.
 
2014-06-26 12:40:22 PM  
The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people.

F**k you Gary. F**K you very much.

My company is owned and staffed mostly by hassids. They made all of their money in the 80' and 90's by STEALING electricity to power the machines. They are no better than anyone else on the planet. maybe if they stopped saying they were chosen and no one else is going to heaven the whole world wouldn't try to eradicate them.
 
2014-06-26 07:06:48 PM  
My favorite part about this and the other Oldman thread is that a few Farkers have mentioned how the whole "Jews run Hollywood" bit is an actual thing. Like Oldman is the very first person to issue that line.
 
2014-06-26 09:44:55 PM  

Lsherm: Jews don't "run" Hollywood.  There's no Jew agenda.  They are heavily represented in the industry because it was one of the few places Russian Jewish immigrants settled into at the turn of the century.  They give jobs to people they know - other Jews - and that keeps them heavily represented in the industry.  But it's not like there's a cabal with an endgame controlling all the media coming out of Hollywood.  If anything, money runs Hollywood.


This, frankly. It's a coincidence of culture and social groups. Folks need to stop looking for the zebra of contrived religious treachery, when the horse of money has always been the driving force.
 
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