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(KHOU Houston)   It takes a special kind of incompetence to fail at running a gun store in TEXAS, about the same level it would take to blame Obama for the bank's decision to foreclose now that you've been in default on your loan for more than a year   (khou.com) divider line 192
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2014-06-25 10:02:14 AM
FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"
 
2014-06-25 10:34:52 AM
"Right now our second amendment is under attack," said Jeremy Alcede, co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Sounds like your ability to be a deadbeat is under attack.
 
2014-06-25 10:50:55 AM

From Philly to Boston: "Right now our second amendment is under attack," said Jeremy Alcede, co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Sounds like your ability to be a deadbeat is under attack.


Seriously in TFA even his own Business partner calls BS on this guy and says he's basically a crook
 
2014-06-25 11:58:16 AM
All signs point to the owner putting most of the money up his nose and projecting the blame elsewhere.
 
2014-06-25 12:06:50 PM
"If Obama woulda just seized these guns like everyone told me he would I coulda cashed in on the insurance settlement! Why does he hate job-creatin' small businessheroes?"
 
2014-06-25 12:08:29 PM
"They're outright lies," said Alcede. "We wouldn't have the outreach and outpouring on our side if people thought I was a criminal."

Hmm. The NRA Community would never give money to someone they thought was trying to spite Obama, regardless of that individual's standing with the law.
 
2014-06-25 12:15:53 PM

Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"



No, no.  He's right.  They owe 6.5 million which puts it just within the "political reasons" threshold.  Any more than that and it's a legitimate financial reason.
 
2014-06-25 12:30:11 PM
You have to admit that it is a competitive market. You can't run a business like shiat when there are dozens of competing companies doing the same thing you are all over town.
 
2014-06-25 12:30:30 PM
No, it's pretty easy to fail at being a gunshop at texas.  All that needs to happen is that the drooling moron customer base needs to go next door to the other gunshop.
 
2014-06-25 12:32:00 PM
White man can't get a head with the brother-man holding him down like that.
it's just a shame, Cletus.
 
2014-06-25 12:32:40 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"


No, no.  He's right.  They owe 6.5 million which puts it just within the "political reasons" threshold.  Any more than that and it's a legitimate financial reason.


lol
 
2014-06-25 12:33:02 PM

From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.


Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?
 
2014-06-25 12:33:06 PM

Katy gun store facing foreclosure struggles to stay open


She caught the Katy
and left me a mule to ride.
 
2014-06-25 12:33:29 PM
Girlfriend tried that whole "stop paying your mortgage" thing 2 years ago.
It worked. No penalties
 
2014-06-25 12:33:38 PM
So how long till the derp brigade puts this into a FW FW FW FW email or Facebook posting
 
2014-06-25 12:33:46 PM

cgraves67: You have to admit that it is a competitive market. You can't run a business like shiat when there are dozens of competing companies doing the same thing you are all over town.


Agreed. It's probably easier to suck at running a business when there's a lot more regulation involved. ABC stores for example don't give a shiat about customer service because what are you going to do, go somewhere else?
 
2014-06-25 12:34:00 PM
So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.
 
2014-06-25 12:35:29 PM
Obama?  You're blaming the best thing that happened to gun sales in all of history, for your gun shop failing?

What's next, it's Hillary Clinton's fault that your cankle store is closing?
 
2014-06-25 12:36:27 PM
OBOZO and the federal government is INFRINGING on this Patriot's right to get out of paying his bills.

www.reviewjournal.com
Save us Fat Drew Brees!  The Patriots of Texas need you  to win another battle for America!
 
2014-06-25 12:38:26 PM
Why, that's like not finding oil in Texas.
 
2014-06-25 12:38:48 PM
Is the Bundy brigade going to lay siege to the bank for this con man too?
 
2014-06-25 12:39:23 PM
You have to admire this guy's gumption. He is appealing to his clientele for this kind of bullshiat. They will eat it up ala Cliven Bundy and he will be a martyr.
 
2014-06-25 12:39:29 PM
If claiming Obama is trying to grab his guns doesn't work, he'll lay claim that the bank is run by homosexuals and they are shutting his gun store down in order to pass gay marriage laws in his town...

Dude is fishing for Sarah Palin to lead the Conservative Outrage Brigade into his town and show their support by buying all his stock.

When are these dopes going to understand that the COB only supports rich and famous people who cry over Obama and the Homosexuals? If you aren't already rich and famous, then join the rest of the brigade and step in line...
 
2014-06-25 12:39:31 PM
Same thing happened to me.  Last year I used my Constitutionally protected right to free speech to make a 212 minute movie of me talking about how the world should be but Obama put pressure on the distributors and theater owners to suppress my free speech.  I'd be a rich Hollywood big shot right now but Obama can't stand to see the little guy win.
 
2014-06-25 12:39:46 PM
Obama personally directs Icon Bank to shut him down?
Obama works on the orders of the Trilateral Commission.
Which is a subsidiary of the Bilderberg Group.
Who is pushing the U.N.'s Agenda 21.
Ban Ki Moon is a reverse vampire.
Bought and paid for the Lizard People.

Or this guy is a moron, who couldn't move enough weapons to the Mexican Drug Gangs?

You decide
 
2014-06-25 12:40:15 PM

ikanreed: No, it's pretty easy to fail at being a gunshop at texas.  All that needs to happen is that the drooling moron customer base needs to go next door to the other gunshop.


Yup.  They're like Starbucks down there.
 
2014-06-25 12:42:00 PM
This guy couldn't turn a profit selling guns and ammo in Texas during the Obama presidency. You can't make this shiat up.
 
2014-06-25 12:42:11 PM

Gonz: Hmm. The NRA Community would never give money to someone they thought was trying to spite Obama, regardless of that individual's standing with the law.


I suspect he's going to get very little help.  Most people haven't forget him and Piers Morgan.  Which is probably why he's going out of business in the first place.
 
2014-06-25 12:42:22 PM
It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.
 
2014-06-25 12:43:00 PM
150 people? Presumably he's counting employee families at least, but still, how many employees can a gun shop possibly need?
 
2014-06-25 12:43:18 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Katy gun store facing foreclosure struggles to stay open


She caught the Katy
and left me a mule to ride.


Where's the Cadillac
 
2014-06-25 12:43:40 PM

CeroX: If claiming Obama is trying to grab his guns doesn't work, he'll lay claim that the bank is run by homosexuals and they are shutting his gun store down in order to pass gay marriage laws in his town...

Dude is fishing for Sarah Palin to lead the Conservative Outrage Brigade into his town and show their support by buying all his stock.

When are these dopes going to understand that the COB only supports rich and famous people who cry over Obama and the Homosexuals? If you aren't already rich and famous, then join the rest of the brigade and step in line...


The International Banking Consortium probably has homosexuals in it, but that's not who runs it.

Know what I'm saying?
 
2014-06-25 12:44:37 PM

Rapmaster2000: Save us Fat Drew Brees! The Patriots of Texas need you to win another battle for America!


I'd bet you money that there are some swastikas under that jersey.
 
2014-06-25 12:44:43 PM

bmr68: It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.


i know this is fark but RTFA, its because obama is targeting him, not because he has made bad business decisions
 
2014-06-25 12:44:51 PM

ElwoodCuse: Englebert Slaptyback: Katy gun store facing foreclosure struggles to stay open


She caught the Katy
and left me a mule to ride.

Where's the Cadillac


I traded it for a microphone.
 
2014-06-25 12:45:36 PM

bmr68: It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.


I figured their biggest problem (other than money mismanagement) is competition.  You'd probably have a hard time throwing a rock and NOT hitting a gun store in Katy, Texas.
 
2014-06-25 12:46:30 PM

Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.


Oddly enough, I watched this *exact* scenario play out here in my state recently.  Couple of guys partnered up, opened a store, and covered the walls with ridiculously overpriced "Tactical Everything".  I went in there once and the cheapest thing they had was a Frankengun Carbine for $1,100.00.  On the way out the door I saw they were also selling .22 Long Rifle ammunition for $.50 cents a round. (that isn't a typo.  They wanted a buck for every 2 rounds ffs.)

They were gone in 6 months.
 
2014-06-25 12:46:51 PM
There seems to be a common theme among patriots with not being able to pay their bills and/or taxes.
 
2014-06-25 12:47:24 PM

Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"


I suppose he can PROVE that he never missed a payment and then sue for wrongful lawsuit.

Are those crickets I hear?
 
2014-06-25 12:47:56 PM
From the picture of the inside of the store,  if 150 people are employed there then that might be one reason they are in the hole so much.
 
2014-06-25 12:48:39 PM
Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.
 
2014-06-25 12:49:05 PM
Subby's right. Why, some poor Texans actually have to share a gun shop! They have to have more of them NOW!
 
2014-06-25 12:49:15 PM
I, for one, am so impressed I'm hitting Interstate 10 for that 2 hour ride to Katy.

I really want my name and particulars recorded by the feds from a gun shop that just plays the edge of reason, treason, sedition, or insane behavior. "You're not just a buyer, you're now a person of interest" should be one of the slogans.

I'll bet most gun buyers probably steer clear so the parking lot should be nearly empty.
 
2014-06-25 12:50:06 PM

Carn: There seems to be a common theme among patriots with not being able to pay their bills and/or taxes.


That theme is "it is all the black guy's fault"
 
2014-06-25 12:50:31 PM

vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?


Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?
 
2014-06-25 12:51:45 PM

Schmerd1948: This guy couldn't turn a profit selling guns and ammo in Texas during the Obama presidency.


If you specialize in more ammo and reloading, that could very well be the case.  Much of this inventory is just not available from the manufacturer's at the moment.  The shelves are sitting bare for this type of merchandise.
 
2014-06-25 12:51:57 PM

TheManMythLegend: From the picture of the inside of the store,  if 150 people are employed there then that might be one reason they are in the hole so much.


Not really. They're Texas-employed. Federal minimum, 5 - 8 hours per week, no benefits, no pension.
 
2014-06-25 12:52:10 PM
This guy's business acumen is pretty low.  Obama's only blame may lie in absolutely saturating the market by initiating a buying frenzy.  You know, from all the gun legislation he and Hillary and the UN have been forcing through Congress.
 
2014-06-25 12:52:12 PM

HeadLever: Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.


No.
 
2014-06-25 12:53:52 PM

tlchwi02: i know this is fark but RTFA, its because obama is targeting him, not because he has made bad business decisions


Perhaps he should have been more careful with what he said on the radio.
 
2014-06-25 12:54:00 PM

RedfordRenegade: This guy's business acumen is pretty low.  Obama's only blame may lie in absolutely saturating the market by initiating a buying frenzy.  You know, from all the gun legislation he and Hillary and the UN have been forcing through Congress.


I knew it!

i57.tinypic.com
 
2014-06-25 12:54:25 PM

Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?


Just hang around a Fark gun thread long enough and you will have more answers than you could ever need or want.

"No stupid libtard, that is an AR-15, with the zee-bop 12-09 grip and the SR-243 magazine and the tactical R2-D2 laser site."

Oh, well excuse me.

For having a massive cock
 
2014-06-25 12:54:39 PM
It's not like people who hate the black president really need a reason (other than his, you know, blackness). They've believed shiat just as stupid as this many times before.

Truth and accuracy is never an impediment when you're yapping about Obama.
 
2014-06-25 12:54:43 PM

Dog Welder: bmr68: It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.

I figured their biggest problem (other than money mismanagement) is competition.  You'd probably have a hard time throwing a rock and NOT hitting a gun store in Katy, Texas.


Oh, cut him some slack.  He was sure he was the only person to decide to sell guns. No one else could possibly have the same idea with better execution.
 
2014-06-25 12:54:58 PM

bmr68: It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.


And I'll bet if you buy a gun at Wally World or another "we sell SPORTING GOODS" store, you do not end up on the FBI's "wannabe badass" list.
/fun fact, my phone tried to autocorrect "badass" to "harass"
 
2014-06-25 12:55:09 PM

Skyd1v: On the way out the door I saw they were also selling .22 Long Rifle ammunition for $.50 cents a round. (that isn't a typo.  They wanted a buck for every 2 rounds ffs.)


That is a big problem for all gun stores right now.  Do you offer .22 for normal price and stock bare shelves or do you increase the price to try to keep some available?  Sounds like these guys were on the side of the 'gougers'.
 
2014-06-25 12:56:30 PM

Skyd1v: Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.

Oddly enough, I watched this *exact* scenario play out here in my state recently.  Couple of guys partnered up, opened a store, and covered the walls with ridiculously overpriced "Tactical Everything".  I went in there once and the cheapest thing they had was a Frankengun Carbine for $1,100.00.  On the way out the door I saw they were also selling .22 Long Rifle ammunition for $.50 cents a round. (that isn't a typo.  They wanted a buck for every 2 rounds ffs.)

They were gone in 6 months.


Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds   has the price really skyrocketed that much since?
 
2014-06-25 12:56:33 PM

Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?


www.themarysue.com
tactical coffee mug
 
2014-06-25 12:57:15 PM
Oblig....


memedepot.com
 
2014-06-25 12:57:46 PM

HeadLever: Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.


I will actually buy that he was moving inventory off the books and was too stupid to figure out a way to launder the money.

So maybe?
 
2014-06-25 12:58:50 PM
Where are our resident fark independents to come to this small businessman's defense?
 
2014-06-25 12:59:45 PM

Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.


I was trying to think of how much ordnance you would have to have in your inventory to go that deep in debt, but how did he pay for it? Did he take out loans to buy inventory and hope to sell it?
I ran my own business for a long time and never would have thought of being that dumb.
Of course, I sold antiques, so I would buy low and sell high.
But I never kept prices so high that the merch didn't move.
Merch that doesn't move is bad luck.

/Once threatened to break up a Stickley chair at Brimfield if nobody bought it for $5 (and use it for firewood)
//It was an ugly one by one of the lesser brothers, but it had the Stickley tag on it.(Brand, not paper)
///Someone did take mercy on it and take it off my hands, and I actually made money on it. (got it for free)
 
2014-06-25 12:59:46 PM

Carn: There seems to be a common theme among patriots with not being able to pay their bills and/or taxes.


They're still waiting for it to trickle down.
 
2014-06-25 01:00:23 PM
well...bye.

/fark independent
//gun owner
///good riddance.
 
2014-06-25 01:02:30 PM
I love the 'we can't discuss details about our bank' angle.  Pay your farking bills, deadbeat.
 
2014-06-25 01:02:35 PM
Apparently the business partner is in on the conspiracy since he is suing Jeremy Alcede for taking money from the business for personal purchases.
 
2014-06-25 01:02:55 PM

Magorn: Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds   has the price really skyrocketed that much since?


Depends if you are luck enough to find instock 22LR at a store that does not gouge.  If you are this lucky, you can pick up a brick for 12 to 15 bucks (pretty close to normal price for Run of the Mill 22LR).  If you need to get ammo now, you are going to pay about 3 times that amount off of Gunbroker.
 
2014-06-25 01:03:10 PM

Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?


Because it's totally what our AMERICAN DEFENDERS use when fighting those BROWN DEVILS in the sand. Rubber helps with the grip, so that when you're sweating bullets in that 79 degree hell hole and being threatened by a BLACK NEGRO walking down your street you don't drop your AMERICAN DREAM MAKER from all the blood rushing to your penis at the thought of getting to shoot someone and then amidst the cries of racism you can slingshot a reverse racism about how you're only being picked on for being white.

And rip stop nylon or cordura is obviously tactical. It presents a smooth, stain resistant, light weight, fabric. All important factors for when you need to whip out the gunt knife. Or the MORBIDLY OBESE 50 MAG snub revolver from your belly button holster.
 
2014-06-25 01:03:14 PM

skyotter: Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?

[www.themarysue.com image 550x332]
tactical ool coffee mug


FTFY
 
2014-06-25 01:04:57 PM

Schmerd1948: This guy couldn't turn a profit selling guns and ammo in Texas during the Obama presidency. You can't make this shiat up.


Honestly, I didn't know Trump was into retail.
 
2014-06-25 01:05:38 PM

Magorn: Skyd1v: Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.


They were gone in 6 months.

Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds   has the price really skyrocketed that much since?


I couldn't really tell you.  My daughter graduated from .22 to a .45 (Cowboy Shooting) about the same time I rediscovered a love of shooting old Springfield Trapdoor Rifles so I haven't had to go looking for any except out of curiosity.  Pretty much all of the .22 I had before the "Banic" set in I still own.

I did notice that they were selling 22LR for $5.99 per 50 round box at the grocery store near my house, but that was 4-5 months ago.
 
2014-06-25 01:07:18 PM

tlchwi02: bmr68: It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.

i know this is fark but RTFA, its because obama is targeting him, not because he has made bad business decisions



 I've been to the store a few times. If he truly was up to date with his loans then ICON would not be foreclosing. Simply put if ICON was found targeting a gun dealer, because of politics then they're screwing themselves.
 
2014-06-25 01:08:14 PM

Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?


strategic flashlights provide a comfortable amount of light for you to read maps and organize troop deployments, although the weight and size of the rifle attached to it make it somewhat impractical.
 
2014-06-25 01:08:21 PM

Magorn


Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds has the price really skyrocketed that much since?


Sadly it has. Five years ago a box of 100 CCI Mini-mags (high-velocity .22lr) could be had in a shop for $4 or so. During the peak of the price-gouging that might have gone up to $18 per box, depending on gall of the vendor, and if any could even be found.

The days of 2-4 cents/round seem to be over. 10 cents/round now appears to be a common price point for online purchases of plinking ammo.
 
2014-06-25 01:09:58 PM

Carn: There seems to be a common theme among patriots with not being able willing to pay their bills and/or taxes.

 
2014-06-25 01:12:41 PM
You get used to blaming black people for all of your problems, it becomes comforting.
 
2014-06-25 01:14:46 PM

Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?


I know next to nothing about AR-15s but live with regular power-outages.
A "strategic flashlight" has at least two of the following features:
1 - a lanyard - renders light wearable, allowing the user to operate hands-free while illuminating their crotch-ankle area
2 - a rubber hand-grip - allows user to employ tooth-grip, operating hands-free while practicing anti-gag reflex breathing (see appendix: "cardio/vascular conditioning")
3 - a free-motion handle - allows users to "mount" flashlight from any available source - nail, tree limb, goat horns (don't judge - in a crisis, anything may happen)
4 - a thin plastic bulb cover - easily breakable, in an emergency, the sharp edges may be used to open battery packaging (see appendix: "superficial wound care")

The cat that runs front-yard and porch operations could expound on "tactical flashlights" but is currently on R&R after a harrowing encounter with "red-dot-laser-light" during a failed mission named "Midnight Roach"
 
2014-06-25 01:15:05 PM

Plant Rights Activist: Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?

strategic flashlights provide a comfortable amount of light for you to read maps and organize troop deployments, although the weight and size of the rifle attached to it make it somewhat impractical.


When I was a cop, they had just come out with the "Kel-light" and all the other cops were falling all over themselves trying to get a bigger one than the next guy. Apparently, you could load one big one up with batteries and beat someone over the head with it and do some serious damage. And size matters.
I learned how to tell who had anger management issues (all of them) and how bad, by how big their flashlight was.

For me, being in a confrontation was the last thing I wanted all day long.
So, while I was not like the others, I was great in negotiation situations.
 
2014-06-25 01:16:26 PM

parasol: I know next to nothing about AR-15s


it's been 25 years, and I could still field strip an M-16 in pitch dark, clean it, and put it back together (With the gas ports NOT lined up) fairly quickly.
 
2014-06-25 01:17:12 PM
I heard the radio interview with him yesterday, so I'm really.....

The host gave him all manner of opportunity to plead his case.  My takeaway was that he had a major falling out with the co-owner.  Something the co-owner did or didn't do affected the loan.  Oh, and as an afterthought, the bank calling in the loan was the result of the Obama administration pressing for more frequent audits of loans to firearm retailers.
 
2014-06-25 01:18:08 PM

eagles95: So how long till the derp brigade puts this into a FW FW FW FW email or Facebook posting


I got it from my mother 10 minutes ago.  6 FW:s ahead of the subject line.  :-(
 
2014-06-25 01:18:20 PM
Skyd1v:   I did notice that they were selling 22LR for $5.99 per 50 round box at the grocery store near my house, but that was 4-5 months ago.


I know this is more the norm, but this still sounds crazy to a guy from NJ.   I still love to tell everyone about the time I insisted on driving through W. Virginia on my way from Ohio to PA.
Stopped at a 7-11 in the pan handle, the counter display had warm cases of bud, beef jerky, fire works, and ammo.   Good times, good times.
 
2014-06-25 01:19:02 PM

HotWingConspiracy: You get used to blaming black people for all of your problems, it becomes comforting.


Kind of like blaming 'racism' on any argument that you don't want to directly address?
 
2014-06-25 01:20:28 PM
150 people affected?! How big of a farking store is it?! Not even gun shows probably hire that many people. Hell, even the SOFEX people probably don't hire that many people!
 
2014-06-25 01:21:24 PM
I wonder if they still make those kelights?
*Surfs*
of here's a nice one. Tiny, and cute.
*click here to purchase*
HOLYMOTHEROF FARK!
 
2014-06-25 01:22:10 PM

LeroyBourne: I love the 'we can't discuss details about our bank' angle.  Pay your farking bills, deadbeat.


I thought being an angry fat white broke deadbeat were all tea party requirements. Or is that just a huge coincidence? I live less than three miles from Tactical Firearms in Katy. I don't have an Obama shirt. I need to get one and then go buy a firearm or two. Maybe even an AR-15 and lots of ammo.
 
2014-06-25 01:22:23 PM
There seems to be a common theme among patriots with not being able to pay their bills and/or taxes.

That theme is "it is all the black guy's fault"



If only everything in life were as simple as you.
 
2014-06-25 01:22:53 PM

tylerdurden217: LeroyBourne: I love the 'we can't discuss details about our bank' angle.  Pay your farking bills, deadbeat.

I thought being an angry fat white broke deadbeat were all tea party requirements. Or is that just a huge coincidence? I live less than three miles from Tactical Firearms in Katy. I don't have an Obama shirt. I need to get one and then go buy a firearm or two. Maybe even an AR-15 and lots of ammo.


Wearing the shirt that is... just to confuse his stereotypes.
 
2014-06-25 01:22:59 PM

SpectroBoy: Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"

I suppose he can PROVE that he never missed a payment and then sue for wrongful lawsuit.


There's no such thing as a "wrongful lawsuit."  The courts are there to adjudicate disagreements, and everyone has that right.  If the bank says he owes them money and he says he doesn't, then any lawsuit stemming from that would be correct.

My money is on the bank, in this case.
 
2014-06-25 01:23:36 PM

kling_klang_bed: 150 people affected?! How big of a farking store is it?! Not even gun shows probably hire that many people. Hell, even the SOFEX people probably don't hire that many people!


it's trickle down math.  By shutting down his store you're not only taking away jobs from his employees but those of the people who make the guns, the people who built the workshop where they make the guns, the people who help provide electricity to the place that makes guns, the dinosaurs that died to fuel the power to make the guns and the people that hunted those dinosaurs 6,000 years ago.
 
2014-06-25 01:24:16 PM

HeadLever: HotWingConspiracy: You get used to blaming black people for all of your problems, it becomes comforting.

Kind of like blaming 'racism' on any argument that you don't want to directly address?


I don't know what you're talking about.
 
2014-06-25 01:26:09 PM
Oh,  this is rich.

Found it in this guy's  big, black, cop dildo flashlight collection.
 
2014-06-25 01:26:12 PM

vudukungfu: parasol: I know next to nothing about AR-15s

it's been 25 years, and I could still field strip an M-16 in pitch dark, clean it, and put it back together (With the gas ports NOT lined up) fairly quickly.


I admire that skill in anyone I meet, actually - not the specific weapon but the familiarity with the mechanisms.

I can, in pitch dark, change the batteries in flashlights from AAA to multi-D while holding a crying baby and heading off the intrusion of water into the bunker. I can also secure a tarp in gale-force winds.

...if the gas ports aren't lined up properly, are you propelled backwards or just mocked mercilessly?
 
2014-06-25 01:26:29 PM
I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.
 
2014-06-25 01:26:48 PM

Schmerd1948: This guy couldn't turn a profit selling guns and ammo in Texas during the Obama presidency. You can't make this shiat up.



"If this guy bought a funeral parlor, no one would die!"

cdn29.elitedaily.com
 
2014-06-25 01:27:58 PM

Magorn: Skyd1v: Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.

Oddly enough, I watched this *exact* scenario play out here in my state recently.  Couple of guys partnered up, opened a store, and covered the walls with ridiculously overpriced "Tactical Everything".  I went in there once and the cheapest thing they had was a Frankengun Carbine for $1,100.00.  On the way out the door I saw they were also selling .22 Long Rifle ammunition for $.50 cents a round. (that isn't a typo.  They wanted a buck for every 2 rounds ffs.)

They were gone in 6 months.

Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds   has the price really skyrocketed that much since?


I still buy bricks of 500 as often as I want at Dick's Sporting Goods for $19.99.  And 20-round boxes of .30-06 for the same price.  I've never gone in and found them out of stock, and they don't limit purchases.  I don't know what anyone's been screaming about -- even at the height of the "I can't find ammo" scare when I went to a gun show and found a 50-round box of .22 for $25.00 (limit 1) and single rounds of .30-06 for $3 each (limit 10), I still bought ammo at Dick's as often as I went shooting -- generally two or three bricks of .22 and 2 boxes of .30-06.  It's stupid hype, brought on by anti-leftist rhetoric.
 
2014-06-25 01:29:00 PM

Yakk: Is the Bundy brigade going to lay siege to the bank for this con man too?


The difference between this guy and Bundy is: Bundy had a disagreement with the "government".  This guy, with the banks.  Right wing conservative types won't demonize the banks like they would the government.  So, no help will come a-riding to this guys rescue.
 
2014-06-25 01:29:52 PM

HotWingConspiracy: You get used to blaming black people for all of your problems, it becomes comforting.


I know I feel better once I started blaming black people for my diabetes.

/T1
 
2014-06-25 01:30:37 PM

Um...Yo: Skyd1v:   I did notice that they were selling 22LR for $5.99 per 50 round box at the grocery store near my house, but that was 4-5 months ago.


I know this is more the norm, but this still sounds crazy to a guy from NJ.   I still love to tell everyone about the time I insisted on driving through W. Virginia on my way from Ohio to PA.
Stopped at a 7-11 in the pan handle, the counter display had warm cases of bud, beef jerky, fire works, and ammo.   Good times, good times.


I always take 68 to 79 through Wheeling to hook up with 70 west rather than 70 all the way from DC area, both because it's a much nicer drive and I swore an oath against the Penn pike a decade ago.  The Sheetz by the Cabelas is one of my favorite spots to stop.  Sheetz always has restrooms and they are usually pretty damn clean for a gas station anyway.
 
2014-06-25 01:31:00 PM

HotWingConspiracy: You get used to blaming black people for all of your problems, it becomes comforting.


It's so much easier than blaming the rich. (the ones actually responsible for our unfairly set-up and run system)
 
2014-06-25 01:31:37 PM

Farkistanian: I heard the radio interview with him yesterday, so I'm really.....

The host gave him all manner of opportunity to plead his case.  My takeaway was that he had a major falling out with the co-owner.  Something the co-owner did or didn't do affected the loan.  Oh, and as an afterthought, the bank calling in the loan was the result of the Obama administration pressing for more frequent audits of loans to firearm retailers.


The co-owner accused him of surreptitiously recycling spent shells from the range and pocketing the proceeds. The level of income it provided would've affected the terms of the loan, even if the guy had been paying on it.
 
2014-06-25 01:32:10 PM
img.fark.net

/now i want tacos
 
2014-06-25 01:32:32 PM

Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.


Well - not to gossip or anything - but, if there is a suspicious fire you could note it here...
it IS getting close to the 4th of July
 
2014-06-25 01:33:06 PM

Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.


We need a Katy Fark party at No Label... like soon.
 
2014-06-25 01:33:46 PM

Carthax: Magorn: Skyd1v: Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.

Oddly enough, I watched this *exact* scenario play out here in my state recently.  Couple of guys partnered up, opened a store, and covered the walls with ridiculously overpriced "Tactical Everything".  I went in there once and the cheapest thing they had was a Frankengun Carbine for $1,100.00.  On the way out the door I saw they were also selling .22 Long Rifle ammunition for $.50 cents a round. (that isn't a typo.  They wanted a buck for every 2 rounds ffs.)

They were gone in 6 months.

Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds   has the price really skyrocketed that much since?

I still buy bricks of 500 as often as I want at Dick's Sporting Goods for $19.99.  And 20-round boxes of .30-06 for the same price.  I've never gone in and found them out of stock, and they don't limit purchases.  I don't know what anyone's been screaming about -- even at the height of the "I can't find ammo" scare when I went to a gun show and found a 50-round box of .22 for $25.00 (limit 1) and single rounds of .30-06 for $3 each (limit 10), I still bought ammo at Dick's as often as I went shooting -- generally two or three bricks of .22 and 2 boxes of .30-06.  It's stupid hype, brought on by anti-leftist rhetoric.


I am shocked, I tell you, shocked! (that gun fans would toss out lots of lies concerning guns - glad to see you're not one of them!)
 
2014-06-25 01:34:07 PM

Carthax: Magorn: Skyd1v: Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.

Oddly enough, I watched this *exact* scenario play out here in my state recently.  Couple of guys partnered up, opened a store, and covered the walls with ridiculously overpriced "Tactical Everything".  I went in there once and the cheapest thing they had was a Frankengun Carbine for $1,100.00.  On the way out the door I saw they were also selling .22 Long Rifle ammunition for $.50 cents a round. (that isn't a typo.  They wanted a buck for every 2 rounds ffs.)

They were gone in 6 months.

Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds   has the price really skyrocketed that much since?

I still buy bricks of 500 as often as I want at Dick's Sporting Goods for $19.99.  And 20-round boxes of .30-06 for the same price.  I've never gone in and found them out of stock, and they don't limit purchases.  I don't know what anyone's been screaming about -- even at the height of the "I can't find ammo" scare when I went to a gun show and found a 50-round box of .22 for $25.00 (limit 1) and single rounds of .30-06 for $3 each (limit 10), I still bought ammo at Dick's as often as I went shooting -- generally two or three bricks of .22 and 2 boxes of .30-06.  It's stupid hype, brought on by anti-leftist rhetoric.


I've bought three pairs of wading boots at Dicks over the last week.  My wife can't pick a style she likes and she *has* to have a women's boot as they're lighter.   The fishing gear is right next to the shotguns.  But I don't need  another shotgun.

/ Got nuthin...
// Needs another shotgun.
 
2014-06-25 01:34:14 PM

Plant Rights Activist: kling_klang_bed: 150 people affected?! How big of a farking store is it?! Not even gun shows probably hire that many people. Hell, even the SOFEX people probably don't hire that many people!

it's trickle down math.  By shutting down his store you're not only taking away jobs from his employees but those of the people who make the guns, the people who built the workshop where they make the guns, the people who help provide electricity to the place that makes guns, the dinosaurs that died to fuel the power to make the guns and the people that hunted those dinosaurs 6,000 years ago.


Ok, that makes more sense! And can't forget the local militias and sovereign citizens who depend on those guns, and people who forgot to take their happy pills with their breakfast
 
2014-06-25 01:37:22 PM

HeadLever: Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.


Small Business Loans of any sort are deemed "high risk" by banks.  Try getting a loan via the SBA at some point in your life and you'll realize being a start up entrepreneur is something of a fallacy if you can't come up with the money yourself.
 
2014-06-25 01:37:56 PM

Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.


So, he's not a god-fearing patriot being screwed over by Obama?  I hope no-one (in Katy or elsewhere) is fooled into giving this guy a dime.
 
2014-06-25 01:39:17 PM

tylerdurden217: LeroyBourne: I love the 'we can't discuss details about our bank' angle.  Pay your farking bills, deadbeat.

I thought being an angry fat white broke deadbeat were all tea party requirements. Or is that just a huge coincidence? I live less than three miles from Tactical Firearms in Katy. I don't have an Obama shirt. I need to get one and then go buy a firearm or two. Maybe even an AR-15 and lots of ammo.


When you go in there you should ask them why they don't file for some govt assistance?
/do try and keep a straight face
//that will be important when their heads explode
///slashies!
 
2014-06-25 01:39:23 PM

Carthax: Magorn: Skyd1v: Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.

Oddly enough, I watched this *exact* scenario play out here in my state recently.  Couple of guys partnered up, opened a store, and covered the walls with ridiculously overpriced "Tactical Everything".  I went in there once and the cheapest thing they had was a Frankengun Carbine for $1,100.00.  On the way out the door I saw they were also selling .22 Long Rifle ammunition for $.50 cents a round. (that isn't a typo.  They wanted a buck for every 2 rounds ffs.)

They were gone in 6 months.

Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds   has the price really skyrocketed that much since?

I still buy bricks of 500 as often as I want at Dick's Sporting Goods for $19.99.  And 20-round boxes of .30-06 for the same price.  I've never gone in and found them out of stock, and they don't limit purchases.  I don't know what anyone's been screaming about -- even at the height of the "I can't find ammo" scare when I went to a gun show and found a 50-round box of .22 for $25.00 (limit 1) and single rounds of .30-06 for $3 each (limit 10), I still bought ammo at Dick's as often as I went shooting -- generally two or three bricks of .22 and 2 boxes of .30-06.  It's stupid hype, brought on by anti-leftist rhetoric.


The Dick's near me is about a 50/50 shot on whether they will have .22LR in stock. Everything else is always available.
 
2014-06-25 01:40:30 PM

kling_klang_bed: 150 people affected?! How big of a farking store is it?! Not even gun shows probably hire that many people. Hell, even the SOFEX people probably don't hire that many people!


He got that figure from the Fox News crowd estimating squad.
 
2014-06-25 01:40:48 PM

Dog Welder: HeadLever: Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.

Small Business Loans of any sort are deemed "high risk" by banks.  Try getting a loan via the SBA at some point in your life and you'll realize being a start up entrepreneur is something of a fallacy if you can't come up with the money yourself.


Yup.  Banks generally won't even look at you if you don't have a documented three year history of operations.

"I've got a business plan so I'm going to the bank to get a loan to start my business" is the mythology of the bootstrappy set.
 
2014-06-25 01:43:16 PM

PaulRB: Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.

So, he's not a god-fearing patriot being screwed over by Obama?  I hope no-one (in Katy or elsewhere) is fooled into giving this guy a dime.


http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4

$1,715 so far.  Only about six million more to go!

/ Suckers.
 
2014-06-25 01:46:13 PM

HeadLever: If you specialize in more ammo and reloading, that could very well be the case.  Much of this inventory is just not available from the manufacturer's at the moment.  The shelves are sitting bare for this type of merchandise.


That's not for lack of supply in the stream though. People are buying ammo at all-time record levels. Every Wednesday night, a truck pulls into a local Walmart here in Grand Rapids, MI with ammo. They unload the boxes and sell it to the line of customers who've been waiting >2 hours. And it's like that at most gun shops in the area too. The demand seems to be insatiable at the moment.
 
2014-06-25 01:46:17 PM

Magorn: Skyd1v: Tom_Slick: So an idiot gun store owner bet the farm buying AR-15s thinking they would be banned soon and he would have the only large inventory in the country.  He marked them up 2-3 times their actual value, didn't sell any and defaulted on his loans.

/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.

Oddly enough, I watched this *exact* scenario play out here in my state recently.  Couple of guys partnered up, opened a store, and covered the walls with ridiculously overpriced "Tactical Everything".  I went in there once and the cheapest thing they had was a Frankengun Carbine for $1,100.00.  On the way out the door I saw they were also selling .22 Long Rifle ammunition for $.50 cents a round. (that isn't a typo.  They wanted a buck for every 2 rounds ffs.)

They were gone in 6 months.

Granted its probably been 20 years since I bought a box, but I remember when .22 LR was about $0.50 per box of 100 rounds   has the price really skyrocketed that much since?


Cigarettes are $12.00 a pack right now.  Prices have gone up quite a bit in 20 years.  Right now, I think we're just talking about inflation (along with other factors like supply and demand).
 
2014-06-25 01:48:09 PM

Rent Party: PaulRB: Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.

So, he's not a god-fearing patriot being screwed over by Obama?  I hope no-one (in Katy or elsewhere) is fooled into giving this guy a dime.

http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4

$1,715 so far.  Only about six million more to go!

/ Suckers.


Some dumb assholes gave him that much already?

My baby nephew who has cancer  is on there right now.  I wish I could take that $1715 and move it over to his fundraiser.
 
2014-06-25 01:48:39 PM

parasol: if the gas ports aren't lined up properly, are you propelled backwards or just mocked mercilessly


could be either.
If you are on a firing range, the action will not cycle properly if too mush gas leaks if your rings have all the gaps lined up, so they have to be staggered. And a hangfire/misfire that you bring upon yourself could being you a mocking.

In a combat situation, however, you could be propelled backwards by all the incoming fire you are unable to keep at bay.

Oh, god. I've gone Diddy, haven't I?
 
2014-06-25 01:52:26 PM

vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?


I guess you can say that a gun over the fire place is non- tactical? Discuss.
 
2014-06-25 01:56:05 PM
7 million outstanding in loans?


I can see a guy owing that much after starting up a manufacturing business but not for a regular gun shop.
 
2014-06-25 01:56:28 PM

paygun: Obama?  You're blaming the best thing that happened to gun sales in all of history, for your gun shop failing?


SO. FARKING. THIS.
 
2014-06-25 01:57:38 PM

Giltric: 7 million outstanding in loans?


I can see a guy owing that much after starting up a manufacturing business but not for a regular gun shop.


Costs a lot to keep "150" mythical people going.
 
2014-06-25 01:57:47 PM

Rent Party: Dog Welder: HeadLever: Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.

Small Business Loans of any sort are deemed "high risk" by banks.  Try getting a loan via the SBA at some point in your life and you'll realize being a start up entrepreneur is something of a fallacy if you can't come up with the money yourself.

Yup.  Banks generally won't even look at you if you don't have a documented three year history of operations.

"I've got a business plan so I'm going to the bank to get a loan to start my business" is the mythology of the bootstrappy set.


Well that's why the 7a Loan program exists through the SBA. Banks simply will not loan money to a start-up small business, the risks are just too high for their models and the rewards ain;t great.  So the SBA says to them "meet our guidelines and we will guarantee that loan and buy out 75-90% of the outstanding balance (p&I mind you)"

Which is a pretty much the only reason there is any small business lending at all (which is a good thing since 50% of all Americans are employed by a small business)


Now the Irony that it takes a federal government program to make the boot-strappers version of the American dream possible?

Well that's a discussion for another day
 
2014-06-25 01:59:57 PM

Ishidan: bmr68: It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.

And I'll bet if you buy a gun at Wally World or another "we sell SPORTING GOODS" store, you do not end up on the FBI's "wannabe badass" list.
/fun fact, my phone tried to autocorrect "badass" to "harass"


I buy my ammo from Academy & WalMart, but I buy my weapons at gun shows and fill out form 4473 every time.

What was the point of your retort again?
 
2014-06-25 02:00:05 PM
"They're outright lies," said Alcede. "We wouldn't have the outreach and outpouring on our side if people thought I was a criminal. People know me, they know my heart and they know my intentions."

They'd probably elect you farking governor...
 
2014-06-25 02:00:32 PM

paygun: Obama?  You're blaming the best thing that happened to gun sales in all of history, for your gun shop failing?

What's next, it's Hillary Clinton's fault that your cankle store is closing?


This exactly.
 
2014-06-25 02:00:53 PM

Magorn: Rent Party: Dog Welder: HeadLever: Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.

Small Business Loans of any sort are deemed "high risk" by banks.  Try getting a loan via the SBA at some point in your life and you'll realize being a start up entrepreneur is something of a fallacy if you can't come up with the money yourself.

Yup.  Banks generally won't even look at you if you don't have a documented three year history of operations.

"I've got a business plan so I'm going to the bank to get a loan to start my business" is the mythology of the bootstrappy set.

Well that's why the 7a Loan program exists through the SBA. Banks simply will not loan money to a start-up small business, the risks are just too high for their models and the rewards ain;t great.  So the SBA says to them "meet our guidelines and we will guarantee that loan and buy out 75-90% of the outstanding balance (p&I mind you)"

Which is a pretty much the only reason there is any small business lending at all (which is a good thing since 50% of all Americans are employed by a small business)


Now the Irony that it takes a federal government program to make the boot-strappers version of the American dream possible?

Well that's a discussion for another day


What do you mean?  The gubment is eeevilll, I tell ya.   They've never done anything right.  (C'mon right wing nitwits, where are you now?)
 
2014-06-25 02:03:12 PM

Mikey1969: "They're outright lies," said Alcede. "We wouldn't have the outreach and outpouring on our side if people thought I was a criminal. People know me, they know my heart and they know my intentions."

They'd probably elect you farking governor...


He's got all that Fox-god-bless-America rhetoric down + he's shady!  Perfect.
 
2014-06-25 02:04:05 PM
Anyone know what would happen if I tried to shoot .30-30 ammo thru my .32 Winchester special? Tactical answers only please.  .32 Win Special ain't cheap.
 
2014-06-25 02:04:13 PM

Magorn: Rent Party: Dog Welder: HeadLever: Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.

Small Business Loans of any sort are deemed "high risk" by banks.  Try getting a loan via the SBA at some point in your life and you'll realize being a start up entrepreneur is something of a fallacy if you can't come up with the money yourself.

Yup.  Banks generally won't even look at you if you don't have a documented three year history of operations.

"I've got a business plan so I'm going to the bank to get a loan to start my business" is the mythology of the bootstrappy set.

Well that's why the 7a Loan program exists through the SBA. Banks simply will not loan money to a start-up small business, the risks are just too high for their models and the rewards ain;t great.  So the SBA says to them "meet our guidelines and we will guarantee that loan and buy out 75-90% of the outstanding balance (p&I mind you)"


Even the 7(a) program wants you to have your own assets invested before you're deemed eligible.  "You've mortgaged your house and drained the kid's college fund, so now we'll talk to you."

If you're young and just starting out, you probably don't have those assets to invest.   Capitalism is awesome if you have access to capital.

Which is a pretty much the only reason there is any small business lending at all (which is a good thing since 50% of all Americans are employed by a small business)

Indeed.

Now the Irony that it takes a federal government program to make the boot-strappers version of the American dream possible?

I hadn't thought of that, but what a wonderful point.
 
2014-06-25 02:04:50 PM

freetomato: Rent Party: PaulRB: Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.

So, he's not a god-fearing patriot being screwed over by Obama?  I hope no-one (in Katy or elsewhere) is fooled into giving this guy a dime.

http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4

$1,715 so far.  Only about six million more to go!

/ Suckers.

Some dumb assholes gave him that much already?

My baby nephew who has cancer  is on there right now.  I wish I could take that $1715 and move it over to his fundraiser.


Give me the go fund me link, I will send a donation his way.  My nephew as been cancer free for about 3 months, another 9 to go until they will say he beat it!  Without the donations of lots of nice people, my sister would have had a real hard time paying her mortgage and bills.  Childhood cancer always forces at least one parent out of work.
 
2014-06-25 02:06:29 PM

Um...Yo: freetomato: Rent Party: PaulRB: Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.

So, he's not a god-fearing patriot being screwed over by Obama?  I hope no-one (in Katy or elsewhere) is fooled into giving this guy a dime.

http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4

$1,715 so far.  Only about six million more to go!

/ Suckers.

Some dumb assholes gave him that much already?

My baby nephew who has cancer  is on there right now.  I wish I could take that $1715 and move it over to his fundraiser.

Give me the go fund me link, I will send a donation his way.  My nephew as been cancer free for about 3 months, another 9 to go until they will say he beat it!  Without the donations of lots of nice people, my sister would have had a real hard time paying her mortgage and bills.  Childhood cancer always forces at least one parent out of work.


Yeah, me too.  Sister just got done with the double mastectomy and a year of chemo thing.  I can spare some shekels for little kids.
 
2014-06-25 02:06:53 PM

RobotSpider: That's not for lack of supply in the stream though.


Wrong as this is very often the case.  Even ignoring the basic fact that ammo shortage is due to supply not keeping up with demand, right now manufactures are concentrating on trying to supply popular items like 22LR and 223.  Because of this, the supply stream of less popular items have pretty much dried up.  Look at the list of items that are 'overdue' from various manufacturers on Midway, sometime.  That is a perfect example of lack of supply from the manufacturers.

I have been waiting for some reloading components to become available for months.  Mind you, the items that I am looking to buy are things that 90% of all firearms folks never buy.
 
2014-06-25 02:07:07 PM

vudukungfu: parasol: if the gas ports aren't lined up properly, are you propelled backwards or just mocked mercilessly

could be either.
If you are on a firing range, the action will not cycle properly if too mush gas leaks if your rings have all the gaps lined up, so they have to be staggered. And a hangfire/misfire that you bring upon yourself could being you a mocking.

In a combat situation, however, you could be propelled backwards by all the incoming fire you are unable to keep at bay.

Oh, god. I've gone Diddy, haven't I?


So....for the plot line of my next thriller novel, the idea of having the villain get caught by an excess of gun residue because the gas ports weren't lined up properly just won't work. a misfire might help save the hero who can then mock accordingly....thanks!

/I learn things on FARK
//They pop up during boring meetings
///3
 
2014-06-25 02:11:14 PM

Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?


Putting lipstick on a pig is quite the tactical strategy for getting the rubes to part with their money...
 
2014-06-25 02:12:54 PM

vudukungfu: Plant Rights Activist: Magorn: vudukungfu: From Philly to Boston: co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Christ. they named it "Tactical Firearms"?
Really?

Someday, some person will have to explain to me why  adding rip-stop nylon cordura webbing or a rubber o-ring  to something automatically makes it tactical.   And while we are on the subject, is there such thing as a "strategic" Flashlight or AR-15?

strategic flashlights provide a comfortable amount of light for you to read maps and organize troop deployments, although the weight and size of the rifle attached to it make it somewhat impractical.

When I was a cop, they had just come out with the "Kel-light" and all the other cops were falling all over themselves trying to get a bigger one than the next guy. Apparently, you could load one big one up with batteries and beat someone over the head with it and do some serious damage. And size matters.
I learned how to tell who had anger management issues (all of them) and how bad, by how big their flashlight was.

For me, being in a confrontation was the last thing I wanted all day long.
So, while I was not like the others, I was great in negotiation situations.


That was one of the first Standard Cross examinations I ever learned, more geared towards suing Bars for the actions of their bouncers than cops but works either way:

Could you identify the item I have marked as Plaintiff's exhibit #1?

And this is YOUR "Maglite " is it not?

The same one you testified you used to help "subdue" my client?

Would you unscrew the top for me?

and would you pour out them contents?

Now that tube, it advertises the fact that it'made of super strong "aircraft grade aluminum" doesn't it?
and inside that tube were 5 d-cell batteries were there not?

 and are you aware hat each d-cell batteries weighs roughly 5.1 ounces?

and are you aware that batteries of this type are called "lead-acid batteries because that is what they are made out of?

And so you testified, that you stuck my client, repeatedly, with a metal pipe filled with more than a pound of lead, to "calm him down" because you "didn't want to hurt him"?
 
2014-06-25 02:16:22 PM

Rent Party: SpectroBoy: Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"

I suppose he can PROVE that he never missed a payment and then sue for wrongful lawsuit.

There's no such thing as a "wrongful lawsuit."  The courts are there to adjudicate disagreements, and everyone has that right.  If the bank says he owes them money and he says he doesn't, then any lawsuit stemming from that would be correct.

My money is on the bank, in this case.


Actually, there is such a thing as an action for "wrongful foreclosure", and many states even recognize "attempted wrongful foreclosure" as a distinct cause of action (usually similar elements as a wrongful foreclosure claim, just the property was never actually resold).  Basically, if the bank didn't honor the terms of the mortgage in foreclosing (i.e. failed to give debtor proper notice of acceleration, etc.), the debtor can sue for damages.

Also, I've seen debtors sue under "vexatious litigation" claims (i.e. in a judicial foreclosure state (such as Florida), the bank knew it didn't have the right to foreclose but did so anyways, debtor sues for damages, punitives, etc.)

/Former foreclosure attorney
//Represented the banks
///We always started every single brief, no matter what form or purpose, with the phrase "[Debtor] has not made payment on his mortgage in over [30/40/50] months."
 
2014-06-25 02:21:54 PM

holdeestrufs: Anyone know what would happen if I tried to shoot .30-30 ammo thru my .32 Winchester special? Tactical answers only please.  .32 Win Special ain't cheap.


Given the smaller neck diameter of the .30 WCF, you'd be lucky to not blow the case... which is no bueno.  Tactically.
 
2014-06-25 02:22:33 PM

Rent Party: Magorn: Rent Party: Dog Welder: HeadLever: Could it be tied into Operation Choke Point?

Given how little the Obama Administration has been able to progress gun control legislation, this likely seems to be the best way that they can do something behind the scenes.

Small Business Loans of any sort are deemed "high risk" by banks.  Try getting a loan via the SBA at some point in your life and you'll realize being a start up entrepreneur is something of a fallacy if you can't come up with the money yourself.

Yup.  Banks generally won't even look at you if you don't have a documented three year history of operations.

"I've got a business plan so I'm going to the bank to get a loan to start my business" is the mythology of the bootstrappy set.

Well that's why the 7a Loan program exists through the SBA. Banks simply will not loan money to a start-up small business, the risks are just too high for their models and the rewards ain;t great.  So the SBA says to them "meet our guidelines and we will guarantee that loan and buy out 75-90% of the outstanding balance (p&I mind you)"

Even the 7(a) program wants you to have your own assets invested before you're deemed eligible.  "You've mortgaged your house and drained the kid's college fund, so now we'll talk to you."

If you're young and just starting out, you probably don't have those assets to invest.   Capitalism is awesome if you have access to capital.

Which is a pretty much the only reason there is any small business lending at all (which is a good thing since 50% of all Americans are employed by a small business)

Indeed.

Now the Irony that it takes a federal government program to make the boot-strappers version of the American dream possible?

I hadn't thought of that, but what a wonderful point.


Weirdly enough, the asset-less just starting out 7a borrower is in a better position that the guy who does a mid-life career change.  Yes the SBA wants you to pledge your own assets so you have skin in the game, and does require at lease a 2nd on your house if you own one.  However if but if you don't really have any assets to pledge,  they're still likely gonna give you the loan.

The Pulitzer prize for fiction every year should go to bank loan officers who create the "evidence of cash injection" part of 7a loan applications  'cause they get awfully creative in describing what counts as an "asset" that the borrower pledges to the business

/my first job out of law school was as a contractor for the part of SBA that liquidated the failed loans and purchased them under the guaranty program.
//felt like I learned more about  how to run a business, and most especially all the mistakes businesses make than I could have going through two or three MBA programs
 
2014-06-25 02:23:26 PM
http://www.gofundme.com/adypjg

Um...Yo and Rent Party - sorry for the threadjack but thanks - his working class parents are really struggling to take time off work to be by his side and pay for a hotel near the hospital which is over an hour from home.

I can't believe the subject jackwad actually expects anyone with a brain to blame anyone but him for his crashing failure.
 
2014-06-25 02:25:23 PM
Rent Party: Yup.  Banks generally won't even look at you if you don't have a documented three year history of operations.

"I've got a business plan so I'm going to the bank to get a loan to start my business" is the mythology of the bootstrappy set.


Pretty Much

As someone who actually used to  prepare business feasibility studies that got people loans I can tell you that most of these champions of free enterprise have a "business plan"  that looks like this

1) Get Bank loan for 5x more than I need
2) Buy a pimp mobile that shows I am a successful businessman -you know to be successful you have to look successful
3)  Buy expensive threads and bling
4) Open Business
5) Get Rich

Yet they wonder why the  banks ar against free enterprise
 
2014-06-25 02:31:56 PM
Magorn:

Weirdly enough, the asset-less just starting out 7a borrower is in a better position that the guy who does a mid-life career change.  Yes the SBA wants you to pledge your own assets so you have skin in the game, and does require at lease a 2nd on your house if you own one.

That's sort of sad.


/my first job out of law school was as a contractor for the part of SBA that liquidated the failed loans and purchased them under the guaranty program.
//felt like I learned more about  how to run a business, and most especially all the mistakes businesses make than I could have going through two or three MBA programs


Best way to learn to run a business is to work in several growth targeted ones.  You'll learn not only what to do, but what not to do.

* Gallant keeps a tight reign on spending and demands a solid business case for any investment in new business activities.

* Goofus flies business class cross country and back just to go to lunch with a guy who has no spending authority and limited influence on the buying decision.

etc...
 
2014-06-25 02:32:49 PM
If you would like to know more about what is actually going on, go read  http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4 .

But if you don't want to read it, here is a summary.

1. They have loans and the stay current with the payments.
2. In 2012, they buy the land next door on a new short term loan. That land purchase cross collateralized the other loans.
3. The short term loan comes due (last year), time to refinance.
4. One partner refuses to sign the loan refinancing.
5. One year later, all collateral (the land AND the business) is in danger due to foreclosure.

It is alleged that the objecting partner wanted the business to default, so he could buy everything from the bank once it foreclosed.


/definitely Obama!
//everybody's got to have a hobby.
///don't forget the three thing
 
2014-06-25 02:33:47 PM

freetomato: http://www.gofundme.com/adypjg

Um...Yo and Rent Party - sorry for the threadjack but thanks - his working class parents are really struggling to take time off work to be by his side and pay for a hotel near the hospital which is over an hour from home.

I can't believe the subject jackwad actually expects anyone with a brain to blame anyone but him for his crashing failure.


Just donated $25.  I will give more when I can.  Good luck!

/sorry for the threadjack
//not really sorry
 
2014-06-25 02:34:06 PM

Magorn: and are you aware hat each d-cell batteries weighs roughly 5.1 ounces?

and are you aware that batteries of this type are called "lead-acid batteries because that is what they are made out of?


No... no no.

You never used this in court.

Someone would have called your BS if you did.

D Cell batteries are all dry cell.  There are no lead acid D cell batteries.
 
2014-06-25 02:34:46 PM

bekaye: If you would like to know more about what is actually going on, go read  http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4 .

But if you don't want to read it, here is a summary.

1. They have loans and the stay current with the payments.
2. In 2012, they buy the land next door on a new short term loan. That land purchase cross collateralized the other loans.
3. The short term loan comes due (last year), time to refinance.
4. One partner refuses to sign the loan refinancing.
5. One year later, all collateral (the land AND the business) is in danger due to foreclosure.

It is alleged that the objecting partner wanted the business to default, so he could buy everything from the bank once it foreclosed.

/definitely Obama!
//everybody's got to have a hobby.
///don't forget the three thing


Shall we guess which partner it is that refused to sign?
 
2014-06-25 02:37:24 PM

freetomato: http://www.gofundme.com/adypjg

Um...Yo and Rent Party - sorry for the threadjack but thanks - his working class parents are really struggling to take time off work to be by his side and pay for a hotel near the hospital which is over an hour from home.

I can't believe the subject jackwad actually expects anyone with a brain to blame anyone but him for his crashing failure.


I just gave the little dude $50.

Get well soon, little man.
 
2014-06-25 02:37:42 PM

bekaye: If you would like to know more about what is actually going on, go read  http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4 .

But if you don't want to read it, here is a summary.

1. They have loans and the stay current with the payments.
2. In 2012, they buy the land next door on a new short term loan. That land purchase cross collateralized the other loans.
3. The short term loan comes due (last year), time to refinance.
4. One partner refuses to sign the loan refinancing.
5. One year later, all collateral (the land AND the business) is in danger due to foreclosure.

It is alleged that the objecting partner wanted the business to default, so he could buy everything from the bank once it foreclosed.

/definitely Obama!
//everybody's got to have a hobby.
///don't forget the three thing


Bullshiat.  That link doesn't address the accusations of embezzlement, illegally keeping wild animals and/or livestock (he bought a farking monkey) within a municipal district of Harris county, or that the co-owners have been in court with each other since December to determine who actually owes the bank what, further holding up payments that already weren't being made because of the disagreement before the civil case.
 
2014-06-25 02:38:50 PM

Um...Yo: freetomato: http://www.gofundme.com/adypjg

Um...Yo and Rent Party - sorry for the threadjack but thanks - his working class parents are really struggling to take time off work to be by his side and pay for a hotel near the hospital which is over an hour from home.

I can't believe the subject jackwad actually expects anyone with a brain to blame anyone but him for his crashing failure.

Just donated $25.  I will give more when I can.  Good luck!

/sorry for the threadjack
//not really sorry


hankblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-25 02:41:11 PM

Click Click D'oh: There are no lead acid D cell batteries.


I should say... There are no lead acid D cell batteries that work in flashlights like a Mag like of Kelight.
 
2014-06-25 02:42:04 PM

Click Click D'oh: holdeestrufs: Anyone know what would happen if I tried to shoot .30-30 ammo thru my .32 Winchester special? Tactical answers only please.  .32 Win Special ain't cheap.

Given the smaller neck diameter of the .30 WCF, you'd be lucky to not blow the case... which is no bueno.  Tactically.


Yep.  You would need to take 30-30 brass (not loaded and unprimed) and reform it into the .32 WS.  All that is needed would be a tactical reloading press and a set of .32 Winchester Special dies (the tactical kind of course).  Not a hard procedure as the 32 is just a necked up 30-30 case.

However, shooting a 30-30 in a 32 WS chamber is a very, very bad idea.
 
2014-06-25 02:42:47 PM

Rent Party: freetomato: http://www.gofundme.com/adypjg

Um...Yo and Rent Party - sorry for the threadjack but thanks - his working class parents are really struggling to take time off work to be by his side and pay for a hotel near the hospital which is over an hour from home.

I can't believe the subject jackwad actually expects anyone with a brain to blame anyone but him for his crashing failure.

I just gave the little dude $50.

Get well soon, little man.


www.betterphoto.com
 
2014-06-25 02:44:36 PM

From Philly to Boston: "Right now our second amendment is under attack," said Jeremy Alcede, co-owner of Tactical Firearms.

Sounds like your ability to be a deadbeat is under attack.



Not just that, but an uncooperative deadbeat.  I sounds like the bank tried to give them a chance for a loan workout, but Mr. Gun Shop Guy just didn't want to be told what to do.  Owning a gun shop is probably about negative 4,000 on the bank's priority list.
 
2014-06-25 02:47:49 PM

Click Click D'oh: Magorn: and are you aware hat each d-cell batteries weighs roughly 5.1 ounces?

and are you aware that batteries of this type are called "lead-acid batteries because that is what they are made out of?

No... no no.

You never used this in court.

Someone would have called your BS if you did.

D Cell batteries are all dry cell.  There are no lead acid D cell batteries.



 I know that now but opposing counsel tended to suck just as bad at Chemistry as the guy who taught me that bit.
 
2014-06-25 02:48:38 PM

Dog Welder: bmr68: It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.

I figured their biggest problem (other than money mismanagement) is competition.  You'd probably have a hard time throwing a rock and NOT hitting a gun store in Katy, Texas.



My advice would be to not throw rocks at gun stores.
 
2014-06-25 02:51:13 PM

Magorn: I know that now but opposing counsel tended to suck just as bad at Chemistry as the guy who taught me that bit.


I guess I'm just too used to everyone whipping out an ipad and fact checking everything...
 
2014-06-25 02:56:04 PM
Azlefty & Lefty > I said, "if you want to know more...". You are correct, this isn't the whole story, however, it is much more than the TFA had in it.
 
2014-06-25 03:00:30 PM

holdeestrufs: Tactical answers only


Let me put on my tactical thinking cap!

legacy-cdn.smosh.com


Welp, as a lifetime gun owner and ex-military member, I have two pieces of advice for you.

First we need to do some research. From dictionary.com:

"tac·ti·cal
adjective \ˈtak-ti-kəl\
: of, relating to, or used for a specific plan that is created to achieve a particular goal in war, politics, etc."


Here we arrive at the first piece of advice: If you don't know what a word means, look it up.

The second piece of advice is gun-related: Don't do that. If you must do that, be sure you're using a bench vise and standing back. :p
 
2014-06-25 03:06:24 PM

Rent Party: Um...Yo: freetomato: Rent Party: PaulRB: Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.

So, he's not a god-fearing patriot being screwed over by Obama?  I hope no-one (in Katy or elsewhere) is fooled into giving this guy a dime.

http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4

$1,715 so far.  Only about six million more to go!

/ Suckers.

Some dumb assholes gave him that much already?

My baby nephew who has cancer  is on there right now.  I wish I could take that $1715 and move it over to his fundraiser.

Give me the go fund me link, I will send a donation his way.  My nephew as been cancer free for about 3 months, another 9 to go until they will say he beat it!  Without the donations of lots of nice people, my sister would have had a real hard time paying her mortgage and bills.  Childhood cancer always forces at least one parent out of work.

Yeah, me too.  Sister just got done with the double mastectomy and a year of chemo thing.  I can spare some shekels for little kids.


Can we get a greenlit thread with the info so all farkers can join in on the fun?
 
2014-06-25 03:10:20 PM

freetomato: http://www.gofundme.com/adypjg

Um...Yo and Rent Party - sorry for the threadjack but thanks - his working class parents are really struggling to take time off work to be by his side and pay for a hotel near the hospital which is over an hour from home.

I can't believe the subject jackwad actually expects anyone with a brain to blame anyone but him for his crashing failure.


Can you submit the link for a greenlight? I'm sure there are plenty of farkers who would be happy to help.
 
2014-06-25 03:12:18 PM
formerfloozy:   Can we get a greenlit thread with the info so all farkers can join in on the fun?

Now closed FarkUs thread.

Heidi needs to put some updates on his page.

Thank you :)
 
2014-06-25 03:15:35 PM
/Never buy guns at any place with the word "Tactical" in its name.

That doesn't leave much.
 
2014-06-25 03:16:53 PM

freetomato: formerfloozy:   Can we get a greenlit thread with the info so all farkers can join in on the fun?

Now closed FarkUs thread.

Heidi needs to put some updates on his page.

Thank you :)


Imma put this on FB tonite with your okay. Babies get me in the feeels everytime.
 
2014-06-25 03:16:59 PM
150 employees? Sound like someone was bloating the payroll to hide embezzlement.

I'll bet this guy is so dirty he makes the mob look clean.
 
2014-06-25 03:18:58 PM

formerfloozy: freetomato: formerfloozy:   Can we get a greenlit thread with the info so all farkers can join in on the fun?

Now closed FarkUs thread.

Heidi needs to put some updates on his page.

Thank you :)

Imma put this on FB tonite with your okay. Babies get me in the feeels everytime.



Absolutely. Thanks.

Better stop before I get banned for TJing.......
 
2014-06-25 03:24:31 PM

SpectroBoy: Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"

I suppose he can PROVE that he never missed a payment and then sue for wrongful lawsuit.

Are those crickets I hear?


Ha! You just don't get it. He WOULD sue the bank for wrongfully foreclosing on him for the singular purpose of restricting 2nd Amendment freedoms in Texas, but Obutthole personally controls the court system and has ordered the courts not to recognize his completely true and totally legitimate claims. Then he put the crack forgery team that created his fake birth certificate to work drafting falsified bank records just to drag this God-fearing Patriot through the mud and make him look guilty. The Dictator-In-Chief will do anything at all to make sure that this fine American hero gets shut down. Once the store is closed, Texans will no longer have a place to go to buy firearms, resulting in de facto gun control in America's greatest state. Oboogereater knows that he can't get a repeal of the 2nd Amendment past the Tea Party guardians of freedom through legal means, so once again he is making an end-run around the constitution and bypassing congress to implement his personal political agenda through executive fiat. It's all quite obvious once you know what to look for and learn how to block out the lies of the liberal media. Study it out!
 
2014-06-25 03:26:12 PM

mod3072: Oboogereater


Okay, I laughed way too hard at that.
 
2014-06-25 03:34:33 PM

mod3072: SpectroBoy: Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"

I suppose he can PROVE that he never missed a payment and then sue for wrongful lawsuit.

Are those crickets I hear?

Ha! You just don't get it. He WOULD sue the bank for wrongfully foreclosing on him for the singular purpose of restricting 2nd Amendment freedoms in Texas, but Obutthole personally controls the court system and has ordered the courts not to recognize his completely true and totally legitimate claims. Then he put the crack forgery team that created his fake birth certificate to work drafting falsified bank records just to drag this God-fearing Patriot through the mud and make him look guilty. The Dictator-In-Chief will do anything at all to make sure that this fine American hero gets shut down. Once the store is closed, Texans will no longer have a place to go to buy firearms, resulting in de facto gun control in America's greatest state. Oboogereater knows that he can't get a repeal of the 2nd Amendment past the Tea Party guardians of freedom through legal means, so once again he is making an end-run around the constitution and bypassing congress to implement his personal political agenda through executive fiat. It's all quite obvious once you know what to look for and learn how to block out the lies of the liberal media. Study it out!


Dicktater, not dictator

/pet perv
 
2014-06-25 03:42:25 PM
If he's up to date on all his loans and the bank is simply shutting him down for political and vindictive reasons, then why is he trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to get out of arrears on his bank loans?
 
2014-06-25 03:44:56 PM

THX 1138: If he's up to date on all his loans and the bank is simply shutting him down for political and vindictive reasons, then why is he trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to get out of arrears on his bank loans?


Not only that, the banking industry isn't exactly known for its liberal leanings.
 
2014-06-25 03:52:17 PM

Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"


Actually that's exactly what is happening.  Google for "Operation Choke Point".
 
2014-06-25 03:59:55 PM

vudukungfu: I wonder if they still make those kelights?
*Surfs*
of here's a nice one. Tiny, and cute.
*click here to purchase*
HOLYMOTHEROF FARK!


Has to hold up to the weapons recoil so the entire flashlight and workings have to be pretty robust.


Drop a 10$ flashlight and the filament breaks....
 
2014-06-25 04:07:35 PM

formerfloozy: Rent Party: Um...Yo: freetomato: Rent Party: PaulRB: Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.

So, he's not a god-fearing patriot being screwed over by Obama?  I hope no-one (in Katy or elsewhere) is fooled into giving this guy a dime.

http://www.gofundme.com/alcpu4

$1,715 so far.  Only about six million more to go!

/ Suckers.

Some dumb assholes gave him that much already?

My baby nephew who has cancer  is on there right now.  I wish I could take that $1715 and move it over to his fundraiser.

Give me the go fund me link, I will send a donation his way.  My nephew as been cancer free for about 3 months, another 9 to go until they will say he beat it!  Without the donations of lots of nice people, my sister would have had a real hard time paying her mortgage and bills.  Childhood cancer always forces at least one parent out of work.

Yeah, me too.  Sister just got done with the double mastectomy and a year of chemo thing.  I can spare some shekels for little kids.

Can we get a greenlit thread with the info so all farkers can join in on the fun?


I hope so.  But you're not getting one from me.

/ 6 Career greenlights.
 
2014-06-25 04:21:05 PM

Speef: holdeestrufs: Tactical answers only


Welp, as a lifetime gun owner and ex-military member, I have two pieces of advice for you.


To say "ex-military", you must mean "Air Force".  And no need for snark, since the difference in diameter is only .02 over 20in, I lined the barrel with talcum powder, so I'm pretty sure I can shoot 7mm - .30 cal bullets through it all day long.

USMC, ret...
2147
ate own guts, 2nd award...
 
2014-06-25 04:28:49 PM
Texans don't buy guns at gun shows.

They go to Mexico.
 
2014-06-25 05:04:42 PM

Click Click D'oh: Gonz: Hmm. The NRA Community would never give money to someone they thought was trying to spite Obama, regardless of that individual's standing with the law.

I suspect he's going to get very little help.  Most people haven't forget him and Piers Morgan.  Which is probably why he's going out of business in the first place.


I thought this was the same guy. I suspect this has way more to do with some sort of asshattery on his part than Obama. But either way, fark that guy.
 
2014-06-25 05:55:30 PM
Obama has helped raise gun sales more than any one else in history. Can't really blame him for your shop closing.
 
2014-06-25 07:38:39 PM

mizchief: Can't really blame him for your shop closing.


Unless you can.
 
2014-06-25 07:56:07 PM

PaulRB: Lifeless: I live in Katy and have friends and acquaintances who worked at this store. This is an embezzlement job, plain and simple. Maybe even a front but I don't have first or secondhand evidence for that.

So, he's not a god-fearing patriot being screwed over by Obama?  I hope no-one (in Katy or elsewhere) is fooled into giving this guy a dime.


He has about 1700 so far....SoOOOOOOO close.
 
2014-06-25 08:17:09 PM

vudukungfu: themselves


Same here. I loved my tiny palm-sized flashlight when everyone else was carrying giant metal horse-legs. Also happened to almost never resort to force. It may have taken me a couple hours to talk the person into letting me cuff them, but fark it, I was never enough of a badass to be confident of winning a fight, and I didn't want to shoot anyone. Negotiations just seemed like the best solution for me.
 
2014-06-25 08:34:17 PM

DaveTheGreat: vudukungfu: themselves

Same here. I loved my tiny palm-sized flashlight when everyone else was carrying giant metal horse-legs. Also happened to almost never resort to force. It may have taken me a couple hours to talk the person into letting me cuff them, but fark it, I was never enough of a badass to be confident of winning a fight, and I didn't want to shoot anyone. Negotiations just seemed like the best solution for me.


Bikers were big into the giant mag lite scene.

Cause you cant really say a pistol is to help you fix your bike in the dark.
 
2014-06-25 08:59:37 PM

bmr68: It's in a bad spot. The other problem(s) for the store is that there are many large gun dealers within 15 miles. Academy, WalMart, Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain,Carter's Country & 7-8 small gun shops similar to Tactical.


 Yeah, and I bet even Gander Mountain doesn't employ 150 people like he claims to.
 There is a tiny half-baked 'tactical' shop every square mile where I live, all of them in little backwater commercial strip storage buildings, all of them struggling, and all of them staffed by two to four ignorant yahoos who think forwarded emails are the only reliable news source. None of them have the price, stock, or selection of the legitimate shops that have been here for decades.

/Even our local Ace Hardware has a better selection, stock, and pricing than these guys, even of the 'tactical' stuff. Hell, around here, even the little freaking -WALGREENS- has a better stock most of the time.
 
2014-06-25 09:01:46 PM

HeadLever: mizchief: Can't really blame him for your shop closing.

Unless you can.


Right or wrong, The Washington Times is considered a tainted source. You might as well be linking Breitbart.
 
2014-06-25 09:15:43 PM

formerfloozy: mod3072: SpectroBoy: Voiceofreason01: FTFA: "The bank said the gun store's loan is in default, but the gun shop said this is about politics. "We've never missed a loan payment on any of the loans," said Alcede. "


Yeah, no....the bank can't just decide to foreclose because they don't like you, even if it's for "political reasons"

I suppose he can PROVE that he never missed a payment and then sue for wrongful lawsuit.

Are those crickets I hear?

Ha! You just don't get it. He WOULD sue the bank for wrongfully foreclosing on him for the singular purpose of restricting 2nd Amendment freedoms in Texas, but Obutthole personally controls the court system and has ordered the courts not to recognize his completely true and totally legitimate claims. Then he put the crack forgery team that created his fake birth certificate to work drafting falsified bank records just to drag this God-fearing Patriot through the mud and make him look guilty. The Dictator-In-Chief ....  It's all quite obvious once you know what to look for and learn how to block out the lies of the liberal media. Study it out!

Dicktater, not dictator

/pet perv

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-25 09:33:01 PM

morg: Right or wrong, The Washington Times is considered a tainted source.


Washington Post then?

Maybe the Hill?

CEI?

Outdoor Life?

Field and Stream?

If you don't like this laundry list, feel free to offer a nonbiased source that refutes these claims.
 
2014-06-25 11:26:23 PM

THX 1138: If he's up to date on all his loans and the bank is simply shutting him down for political and vindictive reasons, then why is he trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to get out of arrears on his bank loans?


It likely isn't just arrears, it's most likely the total of principal, interest, bank fees, costs/expenses/attorney's fees/etc..  When the bank forecloses on a mortgage after a debtor's default, they accelerate the debt (i.e. everything is due now, asshole); if you look in your mortgage you'll see an "optional acceleration" clause, which allows your bank to "accelerate" the debt after you default on payments,etc. but does not necessarily require the bank to do so (i.e. its at the bank's option).  Most jurisdictions (and almost every contract in said jurisdictions) require the debtor to tender all amounts due (again, principal, interest, bank fees, costs, etc.) to prevent forced sale (the debtor's right to pay such amounts is called a "right of redemption").

So in short, the gunshop owner might only be a few thousand behind, but him and his partner's unwillingness to engage in reasonable loan workout options has forced the bank to attempt to recover anything they can from the debtor's assets before the debtor can squander them further.
 
2014-06-25 11:47:24 PM

redflag: THX 1138: If he's up to date on all his loans and the bank is simply shutting him down for political and vindictive reasons, then why is he trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to get out of arrears on his bank loans?

It likely isn't just arrears, it's most likely the total of principal, interest, bank fees, costs/expenses/attorney's fees/etc..  When the bank forecloses on a mortgage after a debtor's default, they accelerate the debt (i.e. everything is due now, asshole); if you look in your mortgage you'll see an "optional acceleration" clause, which allows your bank to "accelerate" the debt after you default on payments,etc. but does not necessarily require the bank to do so (i.e. its at the bank's option).  Most jurisdictions (and almost every contract in said jurisdictions) require the debtor to tender all amounts due (again, principal, interest, bank fees, costs, etc.) to prevent forced sale (the debtor's right to pay such amounts is called a "right of redemption").

So in short, the gunshop owner might only be a few thousand behind, but him and his partner's unwillingness to engage in reasonable loan workout options has forced the bank to attempt to recover anything they can from the debtor's assets before the debtor can squander them further.


In other words, he's a idiot who didn't understand the ramifications of the loan he signed on to and BOOM.

Sounds familiar.

Those guys were bums who bought mansions on a janitor's pay.....this guy is a Patriot! Unfair!
 
2014-06-26 12:32:38 AM

HeadLever: morg: Right or wrong, The Washington Times is considered a tainted source.

Washington Post then?

Maybe the Hill?

CEI?

Outdoor Life?

Field and Stream?

If you don't like this laundry list, feel free to offer a nonbiased source that refutes these claims.


Hey, that's why I lead with "Right or wrong". Linking to a tainted source undermines what would be a normally decent argument.
Sorry, unsolicited advice.
 
2014-06-26 10:00:37 AM

morg: Hey, that's why I lead with "Right or wrong".


That is fine, but you could have have simply did a quick search yourself.....
 
2014-06-26 10:43:18 AM

Xanlexian: HotWingConspiracy: You get used to blaming black people for all of your problems, it becomes comforting.

I know I feel better once I started blaming black people for my diabetes.

/T1


I may have to look into this.  The wife's starting to catch on to me blaming the cat for everything...
 
2014-06-26 10:47:35 AM

HeadLever: mizchief: Can't really blame him for your shop closing.

Unless you can.


Did you actually read that link?

"Store changes banks" doesn't really fit the "Obama is the devil" narrative some folks seem to want to pursue...heck, the original bank might just have decided their theft liability premiums were too low.

Selling guns IS a little riskier than selling, say, ice cream.
 
2014-06-26 11:30:09 AM

PunGent: "Store changes banks"


Which does not preclude the new bank from doing the same thing as the old bank once 'pressure' is appied. That is the nature of this operation - pressure the larger banks first and work down from there.


Selling guns IS a little riskier than selling, say, ice cream.

Of course, but on the flipside, it can also carry a much greater ROI.  If risk was the only metric of any bank, there would't be any loans.

Overall, it is not that "Obama is the devil', but just that he is trying to do what he can on the gun control front since he has been shut down on the Assault Weapons Ban and a host of other gun control legislation.  I don't agree with this and will do what I can to stop it, but I don't believe that he is the devil.
 
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