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(Slate)   An app that lets you auction off the public parking spot you're currently occupying to the highest bidder who wants it? Yes, it appears that San Francisco does have a problem with that   ( divider line
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4157 clicks; posted to Main » on 25 Jun 2014 at 3:08 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2014-06-25 03:25:15 PM  
4 votes:
This is how I see it working:

Driver : I am about to leave the number 2 spot in front of the doors at Best Buy. Who wants it?
Guy 1: Uh, I'll give you 50 cents.
Guy 2: 5 bucks!
Guy 3: 25 bucks!
Guy 4: I won't spend 5 minutes beating your car with a claw hammer.
Driver: uh....sold to Guy 4!

And what happens if you pay for someone's spot, and then some asshole ganks 'your' spot because you're blocked by the guy pulling out? Do you politely explain how you just paid for that public spot and therefore it is now 'yours' and that he should move, and hope the day ends without your smart phone being surgically removed from your anus? Do you call the cops and report that you were 'robbed'? Do you engage in some Casey Jones style street justice that ends with you being indicted for manslaughter for standing up for your 'rights'?

I don't see any good coming of that app.
2014-06-25 03:10:32 PM  
3 votes:
You're not paying them for the spot. You're paying for them to get out of it.
2014-06-25 03:37:50 PM  
2 votes:

jigger: All2morrowsparTs: jigger: cgraves67: You're not paying them for the spot. You're paying for them to get out of it.

Exactly. And that's why the law doesn't apply and the C&D letter is without merit.

The law is about profiting off public land.

No one is buying selling or leasing property except for the city. The app users are coordinating their parking together. The time at which you leave a parking space is not public property.

They're attempting to sell access to public land. This is not a clever defense.
2014-06-25 03:11:40 PM  
2 votes:
The next tech bubble crash can't come soon enough
2014-06-25 06:40:29 PM  
1 vote:
Let me clear some things up for those of you who didn't read a well-written AP article last night on MonkeyParking.

1. SanFran already has paid parking. There are meters.

2. It is already against SF rules to scalp parking spots. (That's what these assholes are doing, after all).

3. The owner of MonkeyParking is a douchecanoe who claims his product is an innovation.. Or some shiat, I can't remember, I was laughing too hard at his delusions of grandeur.

4. The way the app works is people see a spot opening, drop money in the meter, register the location of the spot, and then wait for the highest bidder to show up and take the spot. Meanwhile, the spot sits occupied by a squatter when it could have already been filled for fifteen minutes by a legit user. This only leads to a further lack of available parking.
2014-06-25 04:28:22 PM  
1 vote:

Magorn: I love how people think that someohow just so long as they phrase something properly the illegal suddenly becomes legal.

That's what you're doing to try to make it illegal.

Magorn: jigger: Russ1642: some clever word use

In other words, law.

No, Law the way people that don;t actually know or understand the law imagine it to be....

big difference, ends up with a lot of people in jail because they think they can ignore a court orderi f the judge happens to have a gold fringe on the flag flying in his courtroom since that somehow makes it an Admiralty court without jurisdiction on dry land

Are you seriously saying that playing around with the meanings of words is NOT almost the entire basis for the legal industry and the judicial branch of government?
2014-06-25 04:12:36 PM  
1 vote:
Find the car in question.

Slash its tires or scratch it deep.

/fark you

fozziewazzi: Assuming these are parallel parking spots, I get the app, monitor the auctions, and position my car immediately behind the auctioneer and wait for him to pull out. Thank you for the free spot.


Didn't you have a "free spot" when you were behind him? And open one up when you moved forward?
2014-06-25 03:38:07 PM  
1 vote:

LeroyBourne: It's really a good idea, they just want their cut.

It's a terrible idea socially, just a very protiable on economically.

I helped run a Burning man offshoot that had a ticket cap due to space limitations and typically sold out all 1500 tickets in matter of minute after they went on sale.  Of course this caused much upset and consternation among the ticketless.   We raised ticket prices $15 to $50 to create a reserve fund to buy land to expand the event at some point but int he meantime the tickets kept selling out faster and faster.

our smart economist friend pointed out that the most beneficial solution to the Org to deal with t\he shortage would be to auction the tickets off pair by pair.   Those most motivated to go would pay a premium to guarantee their attendance, and then ticket prices would fall until they "found their level" based on the current demand.

and technically he was absolutely correct.  It would have maximized "profit" for the 501(c)(3) which would have brought us closer to buying land quicker which in the end benefits everyone.  However Morally/ethically/optically it was an AWFUL solution as it would destroy the core values of radical inclusion and non-commerce the event was founded on, favoring rich burners over poor ones.

Sometimes the optimal economic solution is not the RIGHT one
2014-06-25 03:36:47 PM  
1 vote:

NorCalLos: I didn't RTFA; but it seems to me that what you're selling is exclusive information about when a particular spot will be vacant. Seems legit to me.

So you travel around and pull into a vacant spot, using it up, but only so you can auction it off to someone else. That is not legit.
2014-06-25 03:30:49 PM  
1 vote:

Warlordtrooper: Making money is only for the rich.  The little guy has no right to try and make money!  That's what this all comes down too.  Some guy found a way to make a bit of money and the wealthy "job creators" don't like it

no it is actually just the opposite. This is not some case of the bum pointing out obvious parking spots and supplying "security" for a buck situation.
2014-06-25 03:23:59 PM  
1 vote:
I would pay money to have people use this app and then beat the crap out of anyone auctioning a public parking space.
2014-06-25 03:22:29 PM  
1 vote:
I could see people making a job out of this:

occupy a parking space
sell it to the highest bidder
move on to another space
2014-06-25 03:15:13 PM  
1 vote:
oh sure its all fun and games, until the city council decides to do this for every public parking spot in the city.
2014-06-25 03:14:57 PM  
1 vote:

Dafatone: So, if someone "buys" a parking spot using this app, what's to stop some other driver from muscling in there anyway?

The seller sitting there holding it for them?
2014-06-25 03:13:42 PM  
1 vote:
So hire a bunch of college kids at $5/hour to squat in parking spaces all day and constantly sell them off? Cmon, there's a gold mine here, no one says the city can't be the one to profit.
2014-06-25 03:12:21 PM  
1 vote:
So, if someone "buys" a parking spot using this app, what's to stop some other driver from muscling in there anyway?
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