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(WLWT)   Not news: Man going behind bars for stealing AC units. News: Federal prison. Fark: Because he violated the Clean Air Act   (wlwt.com) divider line 86
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-06-25 11:13:36 AM  
Like BP was convicted of violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act by getting oil on feathers.
 
2014-06-25 01:36:48 PM  
Like people busted with mj are charged with having a Schedule 1 drug.
 
2014-06-25 03:53:47 PM  
Will get lots of AC/DC units
 
2014-06-25 03:54:50 PM  
Well, we do actually want people to not do that
 
2014-06-25 03:55:23 PM  
Great, I violate the clean air act after eating at Taco Bell. Does this make me a criminal too?
 
2014-06-25 03:55:52 PM  
Richard Dean Anderson has really gone to hell.

www.nerdsraging.com
 
2014-06-25 03:56:37 PM  
No wonder why we've had less hurricanes lately.
 
2014-06-25 04:00:17 PM  
Can't legally make the Freon anymore, so as it is recycled and the supply dwindles it has gotten really expensive.

Real A/C servicers recycle it as a matter of course.  It was probably as valuable as the A/C units themselves, or more valuable.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-06-25 04:05:53 PM  

LewDux: Will get lots of AC/DC units


And I bet they are back in black
 
2014-06-25 04:08:47 PM  
It does seem a bit trumped-up, but I just can't muster up any farks to give...metal thieves are destructive scumbags and deserve whatever they get; the only thing upsetting to me about this story is that the bastard didn't electrocute himself trying to steal the disconnects...
 
2014-06-25 04:09:08 PM  
This wasn't a technicality. He was dumping environmental contaminants.
 
2014-06-25 04:09:10 PM  
con 1:so what are you in for
con 2:a federal thing about venting gas
con 1:  I DEMAND A NEW CELLMATE!!!
 
2014-06-25 04:09:14 PM  
I thought Freon was just used as a name for R12,  I doubt HCFC-22 was being sold under that name.
 
2014-06-25 04:10:24 PM  

SwiftFox: Can't legally make the Freon anymore, so as it is recycled and the supply dwindles it has gotten really expensive.


Oh, they can legally make the stuff. It's just the versions they can legally make cost an arm and a leg, and the older and effective stuff can't be made anymore. I had some asshole damage my AC unit mowing my lawn, and the freon alone cost me a grand to recharge.

My grandfather did HVAC for his entire life once he got out of the Navy. We've still got boxed canisters of R-22 and R-12 in our shop at my Grandparents. I mentioned this to the guy who was fixing my unit, and he said that people will pay 450 bucks a cylinder at the current value.
 
2014-06-25 04:11:15 PM  

Boo_Guy: I thought Freon was just used as a name for R12,  I doubt HCFC-22 was being sold under that name.


Freon is the brand name for refrigerants produced by DuPont. The R-Number of the Freon signifies it's type.
 
2014-06-25 04:11:58 PM  
Not cool.
 
2014-06-25 04:12:32 PM  
I still find it amusing that you can't leak refrigerant into the air from an A/C unit, but every canned air duster they sell ( used to hose dust off computer parts or huff, your call ) is the exact same stuff. Mostly R134A or R152A.
 
2014-06-25 04:12:45 PM  
My detectors at RHIC require R134A to operate correctly. I vent (directly to the atmosphere) ~1500 ccm of the stuff 24/7 for ~4-5 months a year...
Of course this had to be reviewed/approved, but it's a ton (literally) more than this guy vented... cheers
 
2014-06-25 04:12:59 PM  
So, repairing the A/C compressor in your car is a federal offense.

OFF WITH HIS COOL COMFORTABLE HEAD!
 
2014-06-25 04:15:13 PM  

aseras: I still find it amusing that you can't leak refrigerant into the air from an A/C unit, but every canned air duster they sell ( used to hose dust off computer parts or huff, your call ) is the exact same stuff. Mostly R134A or R152A.


They're not charged with freon anymore. It's either a hydrocarbon derivative or HFA
 
2014-06-25 04:15:13 PM  
federal prison way better than state prison

what a blessing
 
2014-06-25 04:15:26 PM  

hardinparamedic: Boo_Guy: I thought Freon was just used as a name for R12,  I doubt HCFC-22 was being sold under that name.

Freon is the brand name for refrigerants produced by DuPont. The R-Number of the Freon signifies it's type.


Ah I see,  I thought it was just a name for that one.
 
2014-06-25 04:16:21 PM  
Orange is the New Black taught me that you can get high on freon
 
2014-06-25 04:20:53 PM  

SwiftFox: Can't legally make the Freon anymore, so as it is recycled and the supply dwindles it has gotten really expensive.

Real A/C servicers recycle it as a matter of course.  It was probably as valuable as the A/C units themselves, or more valuable.


"Freon" is the brand name used by Dupont. Many other companies make refrigerant, including Honeywell.
R22 is still being made, and will be until the end of 2015.

No contractor can "re-cycle" and re-use any refrigerant in any other system other than the one it came from or another one owned by the same customer.


/Been in the business more than 25 years.
 
2014-06-25 04:22:15 PM  
Good.  Throw the book at him.

These assholes have cost the place I worked many thousands of dollars, not to mention the environmental costs of leaking that stuff everywhere.  First time they got sprayed by the refrigerant and only left a damaged piece of equipment and some tools behind.  Second time, they broke into the now protected area and took the unit.

There hasn't been a third time, because we move it to the roof.
 
2014-06-25 04:23:02 PM  
Wait until they transfer him to the local FEMA camp for "processing." That'll really get the Teatards foaming.
 
2014-06-25 04:23:02 PM  

hardinparamedic: SwiftFox: Can't legally make the Freon anymore, so as it is recycled and the supply dwindles it has gotten really expensive.

Oh, they can legally make the stuff. It's just the versions they can legally make cost an arm and a leg, and the older and effective stuff can't be made anymore. I had some asshole damage my AC unit mowing my lawn, and the freon alone cost me a grand to recharge.

My grandfather did HVAC for his entire life once he got out of the Navy. We've still got boxed canisters of R-22 and R-12 in our shop at my Grandparents. I mentioned this to the guy who was fixing my unit, and he said that people will pay 450 bucks a cylinder at the current value.


Ah, but the old units require the old refrigerant they cannot legally make anymore. Which is why the old versions are getting so expensive and valuable to recycle.
 
2014-06-25 04:23:50 PM  
Ah, yes, libtards.

There is lots up to infrequent grinding freewheel sides to and lots chlorine inside meager issues was freeway.
 
2014-06-25 04:24:52 PM  
Thieves are scum.

I sort of like this.
 
2014-06-25 04:25:14 PM  
Stealing a ac unit in south texas?

That's a shooting this time of year.
 
2014-06-25 04:26:05 PM  

SwiftFox: hardinparamedic: SwiftFox: Can't legally make the Freon anymore, so as it is recycled and the supply dwindles it has gotten really expensive.

Oh, they can legally make the stuff. It's just the versions they can legally make cost an arm and a leg, and the older and effective stuff can't be made anymore. I had some asshole damage my AC unit mowing my lawn, and the freon alone cost me a grand to recharge.

My grandfather did HVAC for his entire life once he got out of the Navy. We've still got boxed canisters of R-22 and R-12 in our shop at my Grandparents. I mentioned this to the guy who was fixing my unit, and he said that people will pay 450 bucks a cylinder at the current value.

Ah, but the old units require the old refrigerant they cannot legally make anymore. Which is why the old versions are getting so expensive and valuable to recycle.


R12 has been long gone, replaced by other refrigerants like R134a, and so it's market value is low. R22 is still available, but only to a federally licensed technician or company.
 
2014-06-25 04:27:23 PM  

LewDux: Will get lots of AC/DC units


Problem is since they're sticking halfway out the window, they may get thunderstruck. Might have to get them a power load, or they might just explode.
 
2014-06-25 04:30:16 PM  
R-12 and tetraethyl lead were both invented by the same guy.

Back in the 1970s, Ronco made this "Instant Glass Froster" that sprayed jets of R-12 on your glass to chill it down. Basically an R-12 can holder with a lever action valve. To this day I still find two can "refills" at thrift stores.
 
2014-06-25 04:31:30 PM  

gja: LewDux: Will get lots of AC/DC units

And I bet they are back in black


GAAAH now I have that earworm in my head. Curse you!!!
 
2014-06-25 04:31:33 PM  

dpzum1: SwiftFox: hardinparamedic: SwiftFox: Can't legally make the Freon anymore, so as it is recycled and the supply dwindles it has gotten really expensive.

Oh, they can legally make the stuff. It's just the versions they can legally make cost an arm and a leg, and the older and effective stuff can't be made anymore. I had some asshole damage my AC unit mowing my lawn, and the freon alone cost me a grand to recharge.

My grandfather did HVAC for his entire life once he got out of the Navy. We've still got boxed canisters of R-22 and R-12 in our shop at my Grandparents. I mentioned this to the guy who was fixing my unit, and he said that people will pay 450 bucks a cylinder at the current value.

Ah, but the old units require the old refrigerant they cannot legally make anymore. Which is why the old versions are getting so expensive and valuable to recycle.

R12 has been long gone, replaced by other refrigerants like R134a, and so it's market value is low. R22 is still available, but only to a federally licensed technician or company.


I have two cans of R12 in my basement,  why wants to buy 'em? =)
 
2014-06-25 04:31:56 PM  
They got Al Capone on tax evasion.
 
2014-06-25 04:32:11 PM  

Loaf's Tray: It does seem a bit trumped-up, but I just can't muster up any farks to give...metal thieves are destructive scumbags and deserve whatever they get; the only thing upsetting to me about this story is that the bastard didn't electrocute himself trying to steal the disconnects...


More of this.
 
2014-06-25 04:33:09 PM  
Boo_Guy:

I have two cans of R12 in my basement,  why who wants to buy 'em? =)
 
2014-06-25 04:33:23 PM  
WalterPeck.jpg
 
2014-06-25 04:34:26 PM  
 
2014-06-25 04:38:59 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: Great, I violate the clean air act after eating at Taco Bell. Does this make me a criminal too?


My wife threatens to have me capped and traded every so often.
 
2014-06-25 04:40:37 PM  

Boo_Guy: I thought Freon was just used as a name for R12,  I doubt HCFC-22 was being sold under that name.


It's actually sold as Freon-22, but only from newly manufactured stock - trade name protection and all that.
 
2014-06-25 04:41:06 PM  

aseras: I still find it amusing that you can't leak refrigerant into the air from an A/C unit, but every canned air duster they sell ( used to hose dust off computer parts or huff, your call ) is the exact same stuff. Mostly R134A or R152A.


134A does not require a liscense and " supposedly" is not harmful to the enviroment .
 
2014-06-25 04:46:00 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: So, repairing the A/C compressor in your car is a federal offense.


You're supposed to take it to a shop that will evacuate the system for you.  Then you can work on it all you want.
 
2014-06-25 04:46:33 PM  

RY28: aseras: I still find it amusing that you can't leak refrigerant into the air from an A/C unit, but every canned air duster they sell ( used to hose dust off computer parts or huff, your call ) is the exact same stuff. Mostly R134A or R152A.

134A does not require a liscense and " supposedly" is not harmful to the enviroment .


Well, it doesn't deplete the ozone, but gram-for-gram it's 1300 times worse than CO2 at causing a greenhouse effect.
 
2014-06-25 04:47:13 PM  
I'm so glad I live in an area where I can use a swamp cooler.

/yes, I know they only drop the temp about 20°, but up here at 7000 feet it doesn't really get that hot
 
2014-06-25 04:48:49 PM  

WTP 2: con 1:so what are you in for
con 2:a federal thing about venting gas
con 1:  I DEMAND A NEW CELLMATE!!!


It's a little-known fact that human farts contain methane, a potent greenhouse gas.
www.onegentleman.biz
 
2014-06-25 04:54:24 PM  

RY28: 134A does not require a liscense and " supposedly" is not harmful to the enviroment .


it's a quite decent greenhouse gas.
 
2014-06-25 04:56:01 PM  

hardinparamedic: Boo_Guy: I thought Freon was just used as a name for R12,  I doubt HCFC-22 was being sold under that name.

Freon is the brand name for refrigerants produced by DuPont. .

And the funny thing is these refrigerants became an issue about the same time trademark was about to run out for Dupont .

 
2014-06-25 04:59:15 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: Great, I violate the clean air act after eating at Taco Bell. Does this make me a criminal too?


Yep, I'm a walking pollutant factory, converting raw materials into methane and CO2.  Guess I ought to go turn myself in now.
 
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