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(ABC 27)   Chinese recycling tycoon treats 250 homeless New Yorkers to a free fancy lunch so he can "disprove the cliche image of rich Chinese spending money mostly on luxuries"   (abc27.com) divider line 8
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2014-06-25 08:55:09 AM  
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This seems like the sort of fanciful luxury impulse buy that he's trying to disprove. Starting a charity to combat homelessness and poverty would be a lot more helpful.
2014-06-25 12:37:46 PM  
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jaybeezey: ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

So if you could use your money to buy a senator or two, and push for better social services, that would be more productive than giving a bunch of people with no safe place to store sh*t $300 each. Maybe you can hand out those newfangled bulletproof blankets while you're at it.

You might be surprised that this is not the case for many of the homeless.


I'm actually speaking from experience, having worked at a homeless shelter. For the chronic homeless, their reasons for not coming in are more about independence and security. If you gave them a warm apartment and let them drink or smoke up in there as much as they wanted, they are very unlikely to turn you down.

We advocated heavily for something like this around 2001, but the Missouri powers that be just laughed and said "no f*cking way":

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/05/us/05homeless.html

Please note that this type of facility is aimed at the chronic homeless, not a battered wife who left their husband last week.
2014-06-25 12:35:56 PM  
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vudukungfu: spending money mostly on luxuries

I can't afford to be altruistic, like this guy.


Sure you can.  Just hand out bottles of water.  If you want to step it up: add a roll of toilet paper, washcloth, dollar store deodorant, toothpaste, a pb&j and it will run you about 5 bucks,  Just say, "Hey we're handing out ___.  Would you like some?"  Check out various social work agencies so you can refer the folks when they begin to trust you.
2014-06-25 12:31:11 PM  
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tbeatty: ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

You're guess would be wrong.  Homelessness in the U.S. is generally by choice.  There are certainly transitory periods by certain people and families but long term homelessness has issues beyond simply ending homelessness.  If he's treating a group of homeless men to lunch, I doubt very much that finding a place to live is on their bucket list.


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A lot of homeless that I have dealt with don't like coming into shelters because there's no way to securely store your possessions. They're afraid someone's going to steal their shoes if they take them off. Plus the shelters have tough rules on alcohol and drugs, and checkin/checkout times.

You're falling into a false dichotomy like a lot of people who have never actually worked with the homeless. You assume that because they don't want to go into shelters, they want to be homeless. Take any homeless person and see if they would prefer a home - where you can lock up your stuff and don't have to get back by 8pm the next day, and where you can drink a fifth a day if you want. Then see if they would choose to live on the streets over living indoors.
2014-06-25 12:05:47 PM  
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tbeatty: ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

You're guess would be wrong.  Homelessness in the U.S. is generally by choice.  There are certainly transitory periods by certain people and families but long term homelessness has issues beyond simply ending homelessness.  If he's treating a group of homeless men to lunch, I doubt very much that finding a place to live is on their bucket list.


Theres different types of 'homeless'.  There's lost-my-job-got-evicted homeless and women escaping abusive relationships homeless.  Those are very temporary - social services can get them situated fairly quickly if they want.

Then there's the folks who just like to move around and travel light.  Hitchhikers, train riders etc.  They're 'homeless', but this is the most choice one of all.  Typically this is younger people.

Chronic homelessness, the kind most people think of when they think 'homeless', is almost entirely because of profound mental illness/addictions and as a result, have lost any sort of support network and refuse any sort of long term help available to them.
2014-06-25 12:04:28 PM  
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To announce the lunch, Chen placed ads in the Times and The Wall Street Journal.

And as we all know, every homeless person has a subscrition to at least one of these papers.
2014-06-25 11:48:40 AM  
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SphericalTime: This seems like the sort of fanciful luxury impulse buy that he's trying to disprove. Starting a charity to combat homelessness and poverty would be a lot more helpful.



This.  And the fact that he came out and said he was doing it for PR purposes pretty much completely undermines that he's doing this out of charitable goodness.
2014-06-25 08:59:48 AM  
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This is just a ruse to harvest their organs.  I've seen it a hundred times.
 
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