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(ABC 27)   Chinese recycling tycoon treats 250 homeless New Yorkers to a free fancy lunch so he can "disprove the cliche image of rich Chinese spending money mostly on luxuries"   (abc27.com) divider line 60
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2014-06-25 08:49:05 AM
He'll also provide entertainment by singing "We are the World."

Haven't the homeless suffered enough?
 
2014-06-25 08:55:09 AM
This seems like the sort of fanciful luxury impulse buy that he's trying to disprove. Starting a charity to combat homelessness and poverty would be a lot more helpful.
 
2014-06-25 08:59:48 AM
This is just a ruse to harvest their organs.  I've seen it a hundred times.
 
2014-06-25 09:12:41 AM

James!: This is just a ruse to harvest their organs.  I've seen it a hundred times.


That was my thought.  "Recycling" indeed.
 
2014-06-25 11:31:09 AM
I'll have the Kung Po Green, Green with broccoli, and Green fried rice. Oh Soylent crispy rolls too.
 
2014-06-25 11:32:28 AM

SphericalTime: This seems like the sort of fanciful luxury impulse buy that he's trying to disprove. Starting a charity to combat homelessness and poverty would be a lot more helpful.


My thoughts too. How many more could he feed with the same money but using other means? And I'm not saying they should be stuck with bean soup and bologna sandwiches. He could rent a hall and get catering that would be provide a very tasty and filling meal, and feed a significantly larger number of needy. He can even still bring up his karaoke machine for "We are the World."
 
2014-06-25 11:32:52 AM
He gave a little teaser of his singing ability on the morning trash show I was watching.

They will also be amused.
 
2014-06-25 11:34:04 AM
He'll just have to feed them again an hour later.
 
2014-06-25 11:34:32 AM
Recycling Tycoon was when that franchise jumped the shark.
 
2014-06-25 11:34:35 AM
Why is he feeding Americans when they are even more Chinese homeless and starving children in China?
Clearly he is a traitor and a bigot.
 
2014-06-25 11:34:39 AM
I could give a tip of the hat to this guy, but I think I will wag my finger instead.
 
2014-06-25 11:35:32 AM
That lunch he is buying sounds rather luxurious
 
2014-06-25 11:36:42 AM
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Welcome to my shiatty restaraunt!
 
2014-06-25 11:37:05 AM
Not so fast there Skippy...

Here's a photo of him arriving at lunch:

i4.mirror.co.uk
 
2014-06-25 11:38:21 AM
Scruffy's gonna get himself one of them $300 haircuts...
 
2014-06-25 11:38:38 AM

uncleacid: He'll just have to feed them again an hour later.


Damn, beat me to it.
 
2014-06-25 11:39:02 AM
If only money could buy self awareness.
 
2014-06-25 11:40:14 AM
When I was 4 years old my brother and sister died of hunger, so I achieved my success through confidence, self-motivation and my hard work

You achieved your success through the real life version of "aliens killed my family so I became a crimefighting superhero."

I bet he's a real life Jim Profit and his last haircut cost 10000x what his favorite cardboard box/bed cost him.
 
2014-06-25 11:40:16 AM
I thought the stereotype was they reward you with food for a job well done?
 
2014-06-25 11:40:30 AM
This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

So if you could use your money to buy a senator or two, and push for better social services, that would be more productive than giving a bunch of people with no safe place to store sh*t $300 each. Maybe you can hand out those newfangled bulletproof blankets while you're at it.
 
2014-06-25 11:40:31 AM
Recycling magnate Chen Guangbiao has selected a menu of sesame-seed-encrusted tuna, beef filet and berries with crème fraiche. He also plans to regale his guests by singing "We are the World." And he has promised each guest $300.


How about cake?  Will there be cake to eat too?

/today in useless gestures of history
 
2014-06-25 11:40:55 AM
I remember reading about the death of Wang Yue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Wang_Yue), and being heartbroken. Given stories like that, stories about workers committing suicide in factories, the blatant attempts to cut corners everywhere regardless of who might be harmed (contaminated food, lead in toys, etc), I think the perception of modern Chinese society is one of...amorality.

I've never been to China, and all of the Chinese people I've met here in the US have been nothing but kind and friendly, so...I dunno. Can someone who's actually been to China please tell me that this sort of stuff is the exception rather than the norm?

(Yes, I know other societies have problems too, but I feel like I never hear positive stories about China.)
 
2014-06-25 11:43:35 AM
Chinese recycling tycoon treats turns 250 homeless New Yorkers into a free fancy lunch so he can "disprove the cliche image of rich Chinese spending money mostly on luxuries"

FTFS.I remember my first Soylent Green.  He's such the Humanitarian.

/He meant 'treats' in that chemical way like how to treat sewage and other recyclables.
 
2014-06-25 11:46:26 AM
that is pretty cool, plus you get to hear some Chinese guy sing we are the world.
 
2014-06-25 11:47:15 AM
Why New York and not Beijing?
 
2014-06-25 11:48:40 AM

SphericalTime: This seems like the sort of fanciful luxury impulse buy that he's trying to disprove. Starting a charity to combat homelessness and poverty would be a lot more helpful.



This.  And the fact that he came out and said he was doing it for PR purposes pretty much completely undermines that he's doing this out of charitable goodness.
 
2014-06-25 11:49:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-GLzEscCX4

Still not as cool as the Japanese version of "Smoke on the Water".
 
2014-06-25 11:50:20 AM
spending money mostly on luxuries

I can't afford to be altruistic, like this guy.
 
2014-06-25 11:50:38 AM

Headso: that is pretty cool, plus you get to hear some Chinese guy sing we are the world.


That may be better than Bob Dylan singing it.
 
2014-06-25 11:50:44 AM

Fark like a Barsoomian: When I was 4 years old my brother and sister died of hunger, so I achieved my success through confidence, self-motivation and my hard work

You achieved your success through the real life version of "aliens killed my family so I became a crimefighting superhero."

I bet he's a real life Jim Profit and his last haircut cost 10000x what his favorite cardboard box/bed cost him.


Is this like where birds only feed the oldest chick to make sure that one lives? Also I thought China has been one child only anyway for a long time. Shenanigans!
 
2014-06-25 11:53:27 AM
If any of those hobos have chemical dependency issues that's like giving a suicidal person a loaded gun.
/$300 will buy a lot of h and vodka
 
2014-06-25 11:55:25 AM

Lord Dimwit: I remember reading about the death of Wang Yue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Wang_Yue), and being heartbroken. Given stories like that, stories about workers committing suicide in factories, the blatant attempts to cut corners everywhere regardless of who might be harmed (contaminated food, lead in toys, etc), I think the perception of modern Chinese society is one of...amorality.

I've never been to China, and all of the Chinese people I've met here in the US have been nothing but kind and friendly, so...I dunno. Can someone who's actually been to China please tell me that this sort of stuff is the exception rather than the norm?

(Yes, I know other societies have problems too, but I feel like I never hear positive stories about China.)


There are good and bad people in every society.

A corrupt govt, such as may be found there, probably rewards the ruthless more richly.
 
2014-06-25 11:58:26 AM

ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...


You're guess would be wrong.  Homelessness in the U.S. is generally by choice.  There are certainly transitory periods by certain people and families but long term homelessness has issues beyond simply ending homelessness.  If he's treating a group of homeless men to lunch, I doubt very much that finding a place to live is on their bucket list.
 
2014-06-25 12:04:28 PM
To announce the lunch, Chen placed ads in the Times and The Wall Street Journal.

And as we all know, every homeless person has a subscrition to at least one of these papers.
 
2014-06-25 12:05:47 PM

tbeatty: ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

You're guess would be wrong.  Homelessness in the U.S. is generally by choice.  There are certainly transitory periods by certain people and families but long term homelessness has issues beyond simply ending homelessness.  If he's treating a group of homeless men to lunch, I doubt very much that finding a place to live is on their bucket list.


Theres different types of 'homeless'.  There's lost-my-job-got-evicted homeless and women escaping abusive relationships homeless.  Those are very temporary - social services can get them situated fairly quickly if they want.

Then there's the folks who just like to move around and travel light.  Hitchhikers, train riders etc.  They're 'homeless', but this is the most choice one of all.  Typically this is younger people.

Chronic homelessness, the kind most people think of when they think 'homeless', is almost entirely because of profound mental illness/addictions and as a result, have lost any sort of support network and refuse any sort of long term help available to them.
 
2014-06-25 12:08:51 PM
I would be more impressed if he had hired them to do honest work.

I would rather see the homeless working productively, even if the value of their labor is not that much.
 
2014-06-25 12:08:59 PM

tbeatty: Homelessness in the U.S. is generally by choice


lol
 
2014-06-25 12:11:08 PM

ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

So if you could use your money to buy a senator or two, and push for better social services, that would be more productive than giving a bunch of people with no safe place to store sh*t $300 each. Maybe you can hand out those newfangled bulletproof blankets while you're at it.


You might be surprised that this is not the case for many of the homeless.
 
2014-06-25 12:14:41 PM
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I read that as Tricycling Raccoon.
 
2014-06-25 12:19:37 PM

SphericalTime: This seems like the sort of fanciful luxury impulse buy that he's trying to disprove. Starting a charity to combat homelessness and poverty would be a lot more helpful.


You can still do that!
 
2014-06-25 12:24:21 PM

olddinosaur: I would be more impressed if he had hired them to do honest work.

I would rather see the homeless working productively, even if the value of their labor is not that much.


Most of the homeless are mentally ill. It's not that they could work but won't, they simply can't. Institutionalization for many would be a good idea, but it's rife with abuse and politically verboten right now for various reasons.
 
2014-06-25 12:31:11 PM

tbeatty: ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

You're guess would be wrong.  Homelessness in the U.S. is generally by choice.  There are certainly transitory periods by certain people and families but long term homelessness has issues beyond simply ending homelessness.  If he's treating a group of homeless men to lunch, I doubt very much that finding a place to live is on their bucket list.


[citation needed]

A lot of homeless that I have dealt with don't like coming into shelters because there's no way to securely store your possessions. They're afraid someone's going to steal their shoes if they take them off. Plus the shelters have tough rules on alcohol and drugs, and checkin/checkout times.

You're falling into a false dichotomy like a lot of people who have never actually worked with the homeless. You assume that because they don't want to go into shelters, they want to be homeless. Take any homeless person and see if they would prefer a home - where you can lock up your stuff and don't have to get back by 8pm the next day, and where you can drink a fifth a day if you want. Then see if they would choose to live on the streets over living indoors.
 
2014-06-25 12:35:56 PM

vudukungfu: spending money mostly on luxuries

I can't afford to be altruistic, like this guy.


Sure you can.  Just hand out bottles of water.  If you want to step it up: add a roll of toilet paper, washcloth, dollar store deodorant, toothpaste, a pb&j and it will run you about 5 bucks,  Just say, "Hey we're handing out ___.  Would you like some?"  Check out various social work agencies so you can refer the folks when they begin to trust you.
 
2014-06-25 12:37:46 PM

jaybeezey: ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

So if you could use your money to buy a senator or two, and push for better social services, that would be more productive than giving a bunch of people with no safe place to store sh*t $300 each. Maybe you can hand out those newfangled bulletproof blankets while you're at it.

You might be surprised that this is not the case for many of the homeless.


I'm actually speaking from experience, having worked at a homeless shelter. For the chronic homeless, their reasons for not coming in are more about independence and security. If you gave them a warm apartment and let them drink or smoke up in there as much as they wanted, they are very unlikely to turn you down.

We advocated heavily for something like this around 2001, but the Missouri powers that be just laughed and said "no f*cking way":

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/05/us/05homeless.html

Please note that this type of facility is aimed at the chronic homeless, not a battered wife who left their husband last week.
 
2014-06-25 12:38:44 PM

Lord Dimwit: I remember reading about the death of Wang Yue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Wang_Yue), and being heartbroken. Given stories like that, stories about workers committing suicide in factories, the blatant attempts to cut corners everywhere regardless of who might be harmed (contaminated food, lead in toys, etc), I think the perception of modern Chinese society is one of...amorality.

I've never been to China, and all of the Chinese people I've met here in the US have been nothing but kind and friendly, so...I dunno. Can someone who's actually been to China please tell me that this sort of stuff is the exception rather than the norm?

(Yes, I know other societies have problems too, but I feel like I never hear positive stories about China.)


I'm sure most Chinese people are lovely. It's the government that's a bunch of assholes.

http://www.laineygossip.com/Zhang-Ziyi-prostitution-rumours-with-Chi ne se-government/23686
 
2014-06-25 12:43:18 PM

Felix_T_Cat: vudukungfu: spending money mostly on luxuries

I can't afford to be altruistic, like this guy.

Sure you can.  Just hand out bottles of water.  If you want to step it up: add a roll of toilet paper, washcloth, dollar store deodorant, toothpaste, a pb&j and it will run you about 5 bucks,  Just say, "Hey we're handing out ___.  Would you like some?"  Check out various social work agencies so you can refer the folks when they begin to trust you.


This is very, very smart. People tend to think the homeless are always starving. We always had Christian types bringing by food. But for the chronic homeless, stuff like this is worth its weight in gold:

Big 6' zip ties
Socks
Paper towels
Duct tape
Cheap $5 flash lights and batteries
Pouches from MREs that last weeks

On the other hand, giving some of those guys $300 is like giving them a hand grenade.
 
2014-06-25 12:50:56 PM

ZeroPly: tbeatty: ZeroPly: This is great PR, but... and I'm taking a really wild guess here - I think the #1 priority for the homeless is to stop being homeless...

You're guess would be wrong.  Homelessness in the U.S. is generally by choice.  There are certainly transitory periods by certain people and families but long term homelessness has issues beyond simply ending homelessness.  If he's treating a group of homeless men to lunch, I doubt very much that finding a place to live is on their bucket list.

[citation needed]

A lot of homeless that I have dealt with don't like coming into shelters because there's no way to securely store your possessions. They're afraid someone's going to steal their shoes if they take them off. Plus the shelters have tough rules on alcohol and drugs, and checkin/checkout times.

You're falling into a false dichotomy like a lot of people who have never actually worked with the homeless. You assume that because they don't want to go into shelters, they want to be homeless. Take any homeless person and see if they would prefer a home - where you can lock up your stuff and don't have to get back by 8pm the next day, and where you can drink a fifth a day if you want. Then see if they would choose to live on the streets over living indoors.


This.  My friends and I have been cooperating with social workers to help the homeless for the last couple years.  I don't want to live in a bay of bunk beds with 200 other guys in the same situation.  If it ever happens to me, I'll be living outside.  I showed the spot I picked to some social workers, they said "You've been doing this too long."

Also, even when folks get some kind of funding from the gov't, it may not be enough to cover rent in a clean place and cover other needs.  They may take the funding, but still live outdoors.  Department of Social Services here had put a bunch of guys in a rooming house.  It was so disgusting that while they technically 'had housing' that the county was paying for, they still lived outside.

/The spot I picked is a nice spot, though.
 
2014-06-25 12:54:43 PM
So, instead of giving something useful - like a farking job - he gives them a luxurious lunch and makes sure the press knows all about it. Free marketing and top shelf AWing.
 
2014-06-25 12:58:58 PM

Felix_T_Cat: vudukungfu: spending money mostly on luxuries

I can't afford to be altruistic, like this guy.

Sure you can.  Just hand out bottles of water.  If you want to step it up: add a roll of toilet paper, washcloth, dollar store deodorant, toothpaste, a pb&j and it will run you about 5 bucks,  Just say, "Hey we're handing out ___.  Would you like some?"  Check out various social work agencies so you can refer the folks when they begin to trust you.


My eyes saw "pb&j" but my brain read "bj" and I thought... You're going to be very popular.

You'd prob get sued if you gave out pb&j, what with the rampant peanut allergies about.
 
2014-06-25 01:09:38 PM
Guy gave them a meal.
You want something else done, feel free.

/stop your whining
 
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