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(STV.tv)   Cops investigating home-made firearm discover that it goes off when you pull the trigger   (news.stv.tv) divider line 43
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-06-25 08:46:21 AM  
It's not clear that the gun had a trigger. Maybe it had a button saying "press here to discharge". Can police in Edinburgh read?
 
2014-06-25 09:37:58 AM  
So do I, ladies... So do I.
 
2014-06-25 10:57:56 AM  
lethallystupid.com
 
2014-06-25 11:02:45 AM  
When will the madness stop?

Better make a law.
 
2014-06-25 11:03:27 AM  

ZAZ: It's not clear that the gun had a trigger. Maybe it had a button saying "press here to discharge". Can police in Edinburgh read?


To make it even more confusing, the sign on the button was in Welsh.
www.safetysignsandnotices.co.uk

Next time, don't use Google Translate!

/Fire assembly point, indeed.
 
2014-06-25 11:03:37 AM  

ZAZ: It's not clear that the gun had a trigger. Maybe it had a button saying "press here to discharge". Can police in Edinburgh read?


FTFY

Basic literacy has never been a necessary qualification for Police work.
 
2014-06-25 11:06:44 AM  
Wait, the "experts" who are the ones who are supposed to either know how it works, or figure out how it works, are upset because the beat cops didn't do their job for them and tell them how an unusual weapon works?

Yep,Fail tag well earned.
 
2014-06-25 11:08:36 AM  

Deathfrogg: ZAZ: It's not clear that the gun had a trigger. Maybe it had a button saying "press here to discharge". Can police in Edinburgh read?

FTFY

Basic literacy has never been a necessary qualification for Police work.


"Well your IQ's only at 67, that throws college out of the mix since you're not a Kennedy. You have anger issues judging by the fact you broke the bathroom mirror because it was, and I quote, "eyeballing me sideways, bro". So that basically leaves you with 3 career choices, politician, fast food worker or policeman. If you are having a hard time deciding let me know and we can set this up like "Let's Make a Deal" for you."
 
2014-06-25 11:09:57 AM  

strangeluck: Wait, the "experts" who are the ones who are supposed to either know how it works, or figure out how it works, are upset because the beat cops didn't do their job for them and tell them how an unusual weapon works?

Yep,Fail tag well earned.


They're probably experts in the sense of ballistics experts, not in the sense of their job/specialty being identifying non-standard weapons and how they functions.  For one, I'm pretty sure the second job isn't actually a thing.
 
2014-06-25 11:11:50 AM  

ZAZ: It's not clear that the gun had a trigger.


All guns have a trigger.  Something triggers them.

i141.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-25 11:13:27 AM  
fubegra.net
 
2014-06-25 11:14:37 AM  
This story brought to you by the country that calls out the bomb squad when someone finds a .22 caliber bullet in the gutter.
 
2014-06-25 11:16:13 AM  
Keep your bogger digger off the bang switch!
 
2014-06-25 11:16:18 AM  
If it were in the US, they would have blown it up with a bomb disposal unit.
We love explosions in the US, especially the cops love explosions and using their expensive equipment.  The UK should hire some experts from the US.
 
2014-06-25 11:16:32 AM  
I wonder what about the gun that made it so obvious what the trigger was to the person who found it, but not to the person who is the ballistics expert.
 
2014-06-25 11:16:52 AM  

Satan's Superfluous Nipple: This story brought to you by the country that calls out the bomb squad when someone finds a .22 caliber bullet in the gutter.


And we call in SWAT when a janitor holds a broom under his arm when walking into school.
 
2014-06-25 11:17:31 AM  

rev. dave: If it were in the US, they would have blown it up with a bomb disposal unit.
We love explosions in the US, especially the cops love explosions and using their expensive equipment.  The UK should hire some experts from the US.


Might be a good reason to get rid of Michael Bay.
 
2014-06-25 11:18:20 AM  
A home-made firearm went off in an Edinburgh police station because officers did not tell ballistic experts how it worked.

Well, in my defense, I'm a ballistic expert. I am knowledgeable about all kinds of bullets. I know the pointy end will move in your direction if you 'tickle the nib' (ballistic expert lingo). You don't even need a gun to make a bullet go. Just hit it in the sweet spot and watch it go. That's the kind of stuff you know when you're a ballistic expert.

As for the launcher, I can be pretty clueless. I'm thinking grains and hollowpoint, not triggers, safeties and that thing the bullet travels down before it goes in to somebody or some body. Barrel? Doesn't really look like a barrel. More like a bullet tube. That's what I would call it if I were a gun expert.
 
2014-06-25 11:19:34 AM  
With a bang bang bang, and down you go.
 
2014-06-25 11:24:46 AM  

Fubegra: [fubegra.net image 255x192]


'I'm the only one in this room qualified to handle this' *bang*.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, dumbass.
 
2014-06-25 11:25:49 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: A home-made firearm went off in an Edinburgh police station because officers did not tell ballistic experts how it worked.

Well, in my defense, I'm a ballistic expert. I am knowledgeable about all kinds of bullets. I know the pointy end will move in your direction if you 'tickle the nib' (ballistic expert lingo). You don't even need a gun to make a bullet go. Just hit it in the sweet spot and watch it go. That's the kind of stuff you know when you're a ballistic expert.

As for the launcher, I can be pretty clueless. I'm thinking grains and hollowpoint, not triggers, safeties and that thing the bullet travels down before it goes in to somebody or some body. Barrel? Doesn't really look like a barrel. More like a bullet tube. That's what I would call it if I were a gun expert.


Do you happen to work for Sen. Fieinstein? If so, can you tell me where I can get one of those shoulder things that go up? I hear the ban got lifted on them, but damned if I can find any.
 
2014-06-25 11:27:20 AM  
media.247sports.com
 
2014-06-25 11:29:43 AM  

strangeluck: Wait, the "experts" who are the ones who are supposed to either know how it works, or figure out how it works, are upset because the beat cops didn't do their job for them and tell them how an unusual weapon works?

Yep,Fail tag well earned.


And I'll bet you think you could have done better.
 
2014-06-25 11:31:06 AM  
stevedeace.com
 
2014-06-25 11:32:14 AM  

MythDragon: Harry Freakstorm: A home-made firearm went off in an Edinburgh police station because officers did not tell ballistic experts how it worked.

Well, in my defense, I'm a ballistic expert. I am knowledgeable about all kinds of bullets. I know the pointy end will move in your direction if you 'tickle the nib' (ballistic expert lingo). You don't even need a gun to make a bullet go. Just hit it in the sweet spot and watch it go. That's the kind of stuff you know when you're a ballistic expert.

As for the launcher, I can be pretty clueless. I'm thinking grains and hollowpoint, not triggers, safeties and that thing the bullet travels down before it goes in to somebody or some body. Barrel? Doesn't really look like a barrel. More like a bullet tube. That's what I would call it if I were a gun expert.

Do you happen to work for Sen. Fieinstein? If so, can you tell me where I can get one of those shoulder things that go up? I hear the ban got lifted on them, but damned if I can find any.


A bra?
 
2014-06-25 11:35:03 AM  
If you didn't know it was loaded then you're not an expert.
 
2014-06-25 11:42:34 AM  

MythDragon: Do you happen to work for Sen. Fieinstein? If so, can you tell me where I can get one of those shoulder things that go up? I hear the ban got lifted on them, but damned if I can find any.


http://senatorfeinstein.com/
 
2014-06-25 11:47:38 AM  
Professor John McNeill said: "Police Scotland's practice and procedures in respect of firearms safety, while stringent in respect of conventional known firearms, do not provide officers with enough specific guidance on the course of action they should take in the event that a non-conventional or unfamiliar firearm cannot be made safe."

Its all clear to me now.
 
2014-06-25 11:48:04 AM  

Snarfangel: ZAZ: It's not clear that the gun had a trigger. Maybe it had a button saying "press here to discharge". Can police in Edinburgh read?

To make it even more confusing, the sign on the button was in Welsh.
[www.safetysignsandnotices.co.uk image 606x379]

Next time, don't use Google Translate!

/Fire assembly point, indeed.


FTA- "...the PIRC said officers did not tell the ballistics experts how the unusual weapon used and the discharge was preventable."

¿Que?

/what say of
 
2014-06-25 11:49:20 AM  
Deathfrogg: ZAZ: It's not clear that the gun had a trigger. Maybe it had a button saying "press here to discharge". Can police in Edinburgh read?

FTFY

Basic literacy Along with marksmanship ability, firearm safety has never been a necessary qualification for Police work.

FTFTFY
 
2014-06-25 11:52:53 AM  
Home-made firearm went off in police station while experts examined it

They keep using that word...
 
2014-06-25 12:28:03 PM  

Latinwolf: strangeluck: Wait, the "experts" who are the ones who are supposed to either know how it works, or figure out how it works, are upset because the beat cops didn't do their job for them and tell them how an unusual weapon works?

Yep,Fail tag well earned.

And I'll bet you think you could have done better.


Nope. But what I see has happened here, the people who should know what they're doing are embarrassed because they had an accident, and are trying to blame it on coworkers who I would say did the correct thing in taking it to the "experts." Now the only mistake the patrol officers may have made is not calling for a bomb squad if they thought the device was an explosive and then took it to the station. Then yes, they royally screwed up.

The experts didn't do so great either, they were handed what they knew was a homemade weapon, yet they didn't ask questions or call in the bomb squad themselves when they weren't sure about it, and started trying to take it apart or disarm it? Then yes, Fail tag is awarded to them.
 
2014-06-25 12:31:57 PM  
Tell you what I do like though: a killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough. Now a real killer, when he picked up the home-made firearm, he would have  immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
 
2014-06-25 12:41:20 PM  

Latinwolf: strangeluck: Wait, the "experts" who are the ones who are supposed to either know how it works, or figure out how it works, are upset because the beat cops didn't do their job for them and tell them how an unusual weapon works?

Yep,Fail tag well earned.

And I'll bet you think you could have done better.


I'm pretty sure I could have done better, yes.  I've seen a few homemade guns (it's legal to make them in the US), and I've got a pretty good idea from reading about others how the vast majority of them work.

And I wouldn't have been handling it unless the barrel was pointing into one of these:

r3.cygnuspub.com

If I wasn't positively certain that it wasn't loaded.
 
2014-06-25 12:49:31 PM  
This is what happens if you try to systematically kill off your gun culture.  The police are often drawn from the gun culture, but if you get rid of it, most of the police will only have a passing familiarity with how firearms work.  They'll know enough to qualify with their service firearms, if the are required to do so, but that's where their knowledge will stop.

Your "experts" who will be drawn to it because they actually like guns will be handicapped by their lack of knowledge and familiarity because you made it difficult if not impossible for them to actually become familiar with all manner of firearms outside of their work duties.  Instead of being raised among firearms and intuitively knowing how they work, they won't get the chance to actually get their grubby mitts on them until they get official permission.

And you end up with incidents like this, or like Mr. "I'm the only one qualified".
 
2014-06-25 12:52:50 PM  
The first thing I do when picking up a firearm that's been out of my sight it to check to ensure it's unloaded. I mean that literally - if I go to the restroom and come back, I immediately check to make sure it's still unloaded, even if I'm the only one home at the time. Yes, it's overkill and bordering on paranoia, but otoh, it take a couple of seconds and guarantees my accidental discharges are limited to the bedroom. The point being that I'm not a trained member of law enforcement, who should really know better.

/Had a pants-wetting experience with that as a teenager, when I didn't check
//lucky I didn't shoot myself
 
2014-06-25 01:18:39 PM  
Maybe they were experts at Microsoft PowerPoint.
 
2014-06-25 01:33:34 PM  

Latinwolf: strangeluck: Wait, the "experts" who are the ones who are supposed to either know how it works, or figure out how it works, are upset because the beat cops didn't do their job for them and tell them how an unusual weapon works?

Yep,Fail tag well earned.

And I'll bet you think you could have done better.


We could always follow American police procedure and just blow it up in a field.
 
2014-06-25 01:38:38 PM  
socked.co.uk
 
2014-06-25 02:01:37 PM  
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
 
2014-06-25 04:29:05 PM  

paygun: If you didn't know it was loaded then you're not an expert.


I think they were loaded.
 
2014-06-25 08:34:05 PM  

YodaBlues: MythDragon: Harry Freakstorm: A home-made firearm went off in an Edinburgh police station because officers did not tell ballistic experts how it worked.

Well, in my defense, I'm a ballistic expert. I am knowledgeable about all kinds of bullets. I know the pointy end will move in your direction if you 'tickle the nib' (ballistic expert lingo). You don't even need a gun to make a bullet go. Just hit it in the sweet spot and watch it go. That's the kind of stuff you know when you're a ballistic expert.

As for the launcher, I can be pretty clueless. I'm thinking grains and hollowpoint, not triggers, safeties and that thing the bullet travels down before it goes in to somebody or some body. Barrel? Doesn't really look like a barrel. More like a bullet tube. That's what I would call it if I were a gun expert.

Do you happen to work for Sen. Fieinstein? If so, can you tell me where I can get one of those shoulder things that go up? I hear the ban got lifted on them, but damned if I can find any.

A bra?


A "Miss Jackson if you're nasty"?
 
2014-06-25 08:48:33 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

/that swan may be loaded too
 
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