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(Washington Post)   Oh hai, don't mind this drone outside your window. Just please continue doing what you normally do. Like brush your teeth, get undressed, fondle your naughty bits. You know, just act natural   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 116
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2014-06-25 08:46:15 AM  
i.huffpost.com
 
2014-06-25 09:02:21 AM  
It's amazing how remote control helicopters didn't exist until just this year.  Oh, wait.
 
2014-06-25 09:10:36 AM  
I like how she assumes since it flew off it was obviously watching her take pictures of it.

A. Most of these just have a camera filming and no one looks at the film until it lands and they get the camera back.
B. The camera is not facing her in the pictures she took of it.

These two facts together must mean ITS WATCHING ME WALK AROUND TOPLESS IN MY APARTMENT.  DID YOU HEAR THAT WORLD?  I FREQUENTLY GO TOPLESS IN MY APARTMENT AND EVERYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT ME.  ME ME ME.  AND MY BOOBS.  ME.

/ME
 
2014-06-25 09:10:49 AM  
Federal regulation coming in 5,,,,4,,,,3,,,2,,,
 
2014-06-25 09:16:22 AM  
"It, like, swooped out of frame immediately, really quickly," she told KIRO, "which made me think they were looking at me because they were reacting to my actions."

Drones are the new UFOs.
 
2014-06-25 09:22:25 AM  
Used to be you had to pay a dude with a real helicopter to fly over your land and take pictures which was expensive.  This guy does it with remote controlled helicopters.  Way farking cheaper.

Here's to you Mr. Sees-a-use-for-new-technology-and-improves-an-existing-business-model guy.
 
2014-06-25 09:40:33 AM  
This is just gonna get worse. Drones being flown by idiots are gonna be all over the place, crashing into each other, crashing into airplanes, crashing into your car, hovering outside your windows trying to peek in. Then if you try to shoot them down, you're the one that will get in trouble. Perhaps net guns would be good. The nets will get their blades tangled up and make them crash.
 
2014-06-25 09:54:56 AM  

Walker: This is just gonna get worse. Drones being flown by idiots are gonna be all over the place, crashing into each other, crashing into airplanes, crashing into your car, hovering outside your windows trying to peek in. Then if you try to shoot them down, you're the one that will get in trouble. Perhaps net guns would be good. The nets will get their blades tangled up and make them crash.


Bolas. You can make them out of dental floss and hardware store nuts, too. Lightweight, plausibly deniable, easily portable.
 
2014-06-25 10:12:20 AM  

doglover: Walker: This is just gonna get worse. Drones being flown by idiots are gonna be all over the place, crashing into each other, crashing into airplanes, crashing into your car, hovering outside your windows trying to peek in. Then if you try to shoot them down, you're the one that will get in trouble. Perhaps net guns would be good. The nets will get their blades tangled up and make them crash.

Bolas. You can make them out of dental floss and hardware store nuts, too. Lightweight, plausibly deniable, easily portable.


And minty.  Don't forget minty.
 
2014-06-25 10:18:53 AM  

Diogenes: doglover: Walker: This is just gonna get worse. Drones being flown by idiots are gonna be all over the place, crashing into each other, crashing into airplanes, crashing into your car, hovering outside your windows trying to peek in. Then if you try to shoot them down, you're the one that will get in trouble. Perhaps net guns would be good. The nets will get their blades tangled up and make them crash.

Bolas. You can make them out of dental floss and hardware store nuts, too. Lightweight, plausibly deniable, easily portable.

And minty.  Don't forget minty.


Nah. I just use my WaterPic set on 11. Shoots drones out of the sky.
 
2014-06-25 10:19:10 AM  
I read the headline in Claptrap's voice.
 
2014-06-25 10:19:12 AM  

Walker: This is just gonna get worse. Drones being flown by idiots are gonna be all over the place, crashing into each other, crashing into airplanes, crashing into your car, hovering outside your windows trying to peek in. Then if you try to shoot them down, you're the one that will get in trouble. Perhaps net guns would be good. The nets will get their blades tangled up and make them crash.


Seems like a person could make a bola pretty easily with a small rope and some metal bits and take one out if it's not too far away.
 
2014-06-25 10:19:38 AM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Federal regulation coming in 5,,,,4,,,,3,,,2,,,


Federal regulation already exists on this class of device, and they can't be used to make a profit, like was being done in the article.

Oddly enough, being used by a pervert is only a violation of local and state laws.
 
2014-06-25 10:21:15 AM  

labman: I like how she assumes since it flew off it was obviously watching her take pictures of it.

A. Most of these just have a camera filming and no one looks at the film until it lands and they get the camera back.
B. The camera is not facing her in the pictures she took of it.

These two facts together must mean ITS WATCHING ME WALK AROUND TOPLESS IN MY APARTMENT.  DID YOU HEAR THAT WORLD?  I FREQUENTLY GO TOPLESS IN MY APARTMENT AND EVERYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT ME.  ME ME ME.  AND MY BOOBS.  ME.

/ME


On the other hand, who the fark wants private surveilance? It won't be long before drone are either outlawed, or forced to file flight plans.
 
2014-06-25 10:21:35 AM  
Drones encourage rape culture!
 
2014-06-25 10:23:10 AM  
whatcha wanna bet that Lisa Pleiss is fat?
 
2014-06-25 10:24:11 AM  
img.fark.net

Continue swimming naked. Aw, c'mon, continue. Continue! OK Lou, open fire . . .
 
2014-06-25 10:24:16 AM  
Do not be alarmed. Continue swimming naked. Oh, come on! Continue! Come on! Aw... all right, Lou, open fire.

deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com

/oblig
 
2014-06-25 10:24:29 AM  
 
2014-06-25 10:24:53 AM  
5 seconds? Misterfween you just made an enemy for life!
 
2014-06-25 10:25:23 AM  
Slaxl, looks like we're sharing a brain today.
 
2014-06-25 10:25:42 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-25 10:25:59 AM  
You had the right pix, tho.
 
2014-06-25 10:26:14 AM  

doglover: Bolas. You can make them out of dental floss and hardware store nuts, too. Lightweight, plausibly deniable, easily portable.


Heh. Okay, YOU I like.
 
2014-06-25 10:26:49 AM  

James!: It's amazing how remote control helicopters didn't exist until just this year.  Oh, wait.


Yeah they need to stop using "drone" for everything.

If it doesn't have Hellfire missiles, it's not a drone.
 
2014-06-25 10:27:45 AM  
Ask me how I know NONE of the previous posters read the article. It wasn't a peeping Tom. The building owner was wrong for not informing the residents that someone was photographing the building.
 
2014-06-25 10:28:49 AM  
Sounds like this woman saw the drone fly by her apartment, and because she heard a story about somebody with a drone spying on people she jumped to this melodramatic screaming about it spying on her. I bet she loves the attention she is getting.

But why are people so worried about a drone seeing into their windows? Doesn't anybody use shades or curtains anymore?
 
2014-06-25 10:30:09 AM  
Heh. You guys are ragging on her pretty hard and maybe she is seeking some attention. Still, I'd probably freak out a bit under the same circumstances. You should be able to feel somewhat secure in your own home.
 
2014-06-25 10:32:01 AM  

labman: I like how she assumes since it flew off it was obviously watching her take pictures of it.

A. Most of these just have a camera filming and no one looks at the film until it lands and they get the camera back.
B. The camera is not facing her in the pictures she took of it.

These two facts together must mean ITS WATCHING ME WALK AROUND TOPLESS IN MY APARTMENT.  DID YOU HEAR THAT WORLD?  I FREQUENTLY GO TOPLESS IN MY APARTMENT AND EVERYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT ME.  ME ME ME.  AND MY BOOBS.  ME.

/ME


It was some real estate developer filming what the views from his high rise will look like.

So yeah.
 
2014-06-25 10:33:59 AM  

phenn: Heh. You guys are ragging on her pretty hard and maybe she is seeking some attention. Still, I'd probably freak out a bit under the same circumstances. You should be able to feel somewhat secure in your own home.


It's the equivalent of someone walking down the street with a camera.
 
2014-06-25 10:34:06 AM  
Not only has her FB profile not gone private, but her cover photo is a picture of the drone, you know, so you don't confuse her with any other Lisa Pleiss's.  She does appear to be a whore for attention. And if she were any prettier she'd be homely.
 
2014-06-25 10:34:53 AM  

James!: It's amazing how remote control helicopters didn't exist until just this year.  Oh, wait.


It's amazing how many women "Feel violated" when they weren't violated.
 
2014-06-25 10:34:57 AM  
My friend was by this weekend with one he bought to film fly fishing trips he takes.  He took some pics of my house and neighborhood.

You are not sneaking up on anyone with one of those, they are loud!  If it is right outside your window you will know it.

Also, put me in with the "honey, no one is spending the 1 grand plus to take pics of you" crowd.
 
2014-06-25 10:35:18 AM  
To all those in the thread who are freaking out, you don't open your blinds anyway except for that slit you peek through when you think the neighbor girl might be checking the mail.

/drones can't hear your heavy breathing
//yet
 
2014-06-25 10:36:52 AM  

James!: It's amazing how remote control helicopters didn't exist until just this year.  Oh, wait.


They did exist before this year, of course.  But in the last few years they got a bunch cheaper and WAY easier to fly, and the WIFI/Bluetooth/Gopro revolution continues to make camera RC vehicles easier and easier to operate.

I'll mossberg the crap out of a quad copter videoing in my window.
 
2014-06-25 10:37:09 AM  

ongbok: Sounds like this woman saw the drone fly by her apartment, and because she heard a story about somebody with a drone spying on people she jumped to this melodramatic screaming about it spying on her. I bet she loves the attention she is getting.

But why are people so worried about a drone seeing into their windows? Doesn't anybody use shades or curtains anymore?


Yeah, because couple of guys in charge of a drone would never ever turn the camera around to try and snap pics of some boobs.

Nope. Not a chance.
 
2014-06-25 10:37:35 AM  

vudukungfu: James!: It's amazing how remote control helicopters didn't exist until just this year.  Oh, wait.

It's amazing how many women "Feel violated" when they weren't violated.


She's looking for a white knight.
 
2014-06-25 10:37:59 AM  
Would it be illegal for me to shoot one of these out of the sky with an airsoft rifle?
 
2014-06-25 10:38:03 AM  

phenn: Heh. You guys are ragging on her pretty hard and maybe she is seeking some attention. Still, I'd probably freak out a bit under the same circumstances. You should be able to feel somewhat secure in your own home.


At what point do you feel entitled to walk around your home naked with windows uncovered?
 
2014-06-25 10:39:48 AM  

Deep Contact: She's looking for a white knight.


Then she's part of the problem.
 
2014-06-25 10:40:26 AM  

ongbok: Sounds like this woman saw the drone fly by her apartment, and because she heard a story about somebody with a drone spying on people she jumped to this melodramatic screaming about it spying on her. I bet she loves the attention she is getting.

But why are people so worried about a drone seeing into their windows? Doesn't anybody use shades or curtains anymore?


RC quadcopters aka drones are something that most people have never seen in their life, outside of TV.  When you see one outside of your house, it can be a little alarming, given that you might have no idea what a typical drone operator is like, what they are commonly used for, how they work, etc.
 
2014-06-25 10:41:48 AM  

misterfweem: [img.fark.net image 300x225]

Continue swimming naked. Aw, c'mon, continue. Continue! OK Lou, open fire . . .

 
2014-06-25 10:42:26 AM  

BigBooper: phenn: Heh. You guys are ragging on her pretty hard and maybe she is seeking some attention. Still, I'd probably freak out a bit under the same circumstances. You should be able to feel somewhat secure in your own home.

At what point do you feel entitled to walk around your home naked with windows uncovered?


img.fark.net
"Whenever I feel like alarming folks, hmmm-mmmm."
 
2014-06-25 10:42:54 AM  

moeburn: ongbok: Sounds like this woman saw the drone fly by her apartment, and because she heard a story about somebody with a drone spying on people she jumped to this melodramatic screaming about it spying on her. I bet she loves the attention she is getting.

But why are people so worried about a drone seeing into their windows? Doesn't anybody use shades or curtains anymore?

RC quadcopters aka drones are something that most people have never seen in their life, outside of TV.  When you see one outside of your house, it can be a little alarming, given that you might have no idea what a typical drone operator is like, what they are commonly used for, how they work, etc.


So we should all alter perfectly reasonable activities so ignorant people don't feel uncomfortable?

/How about no?
 
2014-06-25 10:43:55 AM  

fireclown: James!: It's amazing how remote control helicopters didn't exist until just this year.  Oh, wait.

They did exist before this year, of course.  But in the last few years they got a bunch cheaper and WAY easier to fly, and the WIFI/Bluetooth/Gopro revolution continues to make camera RC vehicles easier and easier to operate.

I'll mossberg the crap out of a quad copter videoing in my window.


Are you going to take any time to check if it's actually videoing your window or are you the type that just destroys toys if you see them?
 
2014-06-25 10:45:10 AM  

phenn: Heh. You guys are ragging on her pretty hard and maybe she is seeking some attention. Still, I'd probably freak out a bit under the same circumstances. You should be able to feel somewhat secure in your own home.


The  solution for this problem has been known for at least 2000 years, but this lady can't figure it out?
 
2014-06-25 10:45:34 AM  

labman: I like how she assumes since it flew off it was obviously watching her take pictures of it.

A. Most of these just have a camera filming and no one looks at the film until it lands and they get the camera back.
B. The camera is not facing her in the pictures she took of it.


Rebuttal:

a) http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/10/radio-controlled-drone-moo s e-video_n_2445582.html  There are plenty of videos online of people using live cameras on drones and helicopters for anyone who is reasonably informed about them to know that it's a possibility that there's a camera pointing at you. In the video above a group of kids is using one. Why is it hard to imagine that a perv (teen or adult) could be using one in Seattle?

b) The lady said when she saw it it turned around and took off when she got her camera/phone out. It's entirely reasonable for her to make the connection that it's leaving due to her action.

/ITG: If I saw a drone outside of my window I would grab my .22, probably miss the shot, and get arrested for firing my gun in the municipality after hitting another building or worse.
 
2014-06-25 10:47:04 AM  

Carousel Beast: moeburn: ongbok: Sounds like this woman saw the drone fly by her apartment, and because she heard a story about somebody with a drone spying on people she jumped to this melodramatic screaming about it spying on her. I bet she loves the attention she is getting.

But why are people so worried about a drone seeing into their windows? Doesn't anybody use shades or curtains anymore?

RC quadcopters aka drones are something that most people have never seen in their life, outside of TV.  When you see one outside of your house, it can be a little alarming, given that you might have no idea what a typical drone operator is like, what they are commonly used for, how they work, etc.

So we should all alter perfectly reasonable activities so ignorant people don't feel uncomfortable?

/How about no?


It's pretty clear from the article that there are politicians looking to let ignorance drive legislation so they can claim to protect you from this non-existent problem.  They should ban alien abduction while they are at it.
 
2014-06-25 10:47:22 AM  
Hey Mittens, I think that thing's spying on us!

i20.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-25 10:47:33 AM  

max_pooper: misterfweem: [img.fark.net image 300x225]

Continue swimming naked. Aw, c'mon, continue. Continue! OK Lou, open fire . . .



img.fark.net

/second try
 
2014-06-25 10:50:40 AM  
People need to learn to get along with drones

When one is hovering next to my window I invite it in for tea and scones
 
2014-06-25 10:50:48 AM  

Callous: Carousel Beast: moeburn: ongbok: Sounds like this woman saw the drone fly by her apartment, and because she heard a story about somebody with a drone spying on people she jumped to this melodramatic screaming about it spying on her. I bet she loves the attention she is getting.

But why are people so worried about a drone seeing into their windows? Doesn't anybody use shades or curtains anymore?

RC quadcopters aka drones are something that most people have never seen in their life, outside of TV.  When you see one outside of your house, it can be a little alarming, given that you might have no idea what a typical drone operator is like, what they are commonly used for, how they work, etc.

So we should all alter perfectly reasonable activities so ignorant people don't feel uncomfortable?

/How about no?

It's pretty clear from the article that there are politicians looking to let ignorance drive legislation so they can claim to protect you from this non-existent problem.  They should ban alien abduction while they are at it.


I'm actually expecting (if it's not already the case) legislation mimicking mineral rights except for airspace rights instead.
 
2014-06-25 10:52:29 AM  

Deep Contact: She's looking for a white knight.


i1078.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-25 10:53:50 AM  
I wonder how pro droners here would feel if I flew a drone over their kid's school or playground.
 
2014-06-25 10:55:47 AM  

ikanreed: Federal regulation already exists on this class of device, and they can't be used to make a profit, like was being done in the article.


Wrong.  That shiat got slapped down like a redheaded stepchild by a judge.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-06/drone-pilot-s-fine-dropped- by -judge-finding-against-faa.html
 
2014-06-25 10:56:33 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I wonder how pro droners here would feel if I flew a drone over their kid's school or playground.


You mean a remote controlled helicopter or an actual drone?
 
2014-06-25 10:57:08 AM  

China White Tea: ikanreed: Federal regulation already exists on this class of device, and they can't be used to make a profit, like was being done in the article.

Wrong.  That shiat got slapped down like a redheaded stepchild by a judge.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-06/drone-pilot-s-fine-dropped- by -judge-finding-against-faa.html


No word on their appeal thus far, btw, but it doesn't look particularly good for them.
 
2014-06-25 11:01:42 AM  
southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com

People dont understand that Trey and Matt are actually prophets.
 
2014-06-25 11:02:31 AM  

labman: A. Most of these just have a camera filming and no one looks at the film until it lands and they get the camera back.


I'm not so sure.  My gopro has a live streaming function.  Not sure what the range is.
 
2014-06-25 11:03:14 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I wonder how pro droners here would feel if I flew a drone over their kid's school or playground.


Or when I use one to video the police.

/Wheeeeee!
 
2014-06-25 11:04:26 AM  
Roy Scheider approves
 
2014-06-25 11:05:55 AM  

James!: phenn: Heh. You guys are ragging on her pretty hard and maybe she is seeking some attention. Still, I'd probably freak out a bit under the same circumstances. You should be able to feel somewhat secure in your own home.

It's the equivalent of someone walking down the street with a camera.


Well.. not really. It's the equivalent of someone hanging outside your window with a camera. Hey, I'm not saying she isn't playing this whole thing. Just that I'd find it a little spooky as well.
 
2014-06-25 11:07:20 AM  

ikanreed: Federal regulation already exists on this class of device, and they can't be used to make a profit, like was being done in the article.



That's weird because I personally know of 3 business centered around using drones as a vector to map and model changing landscapes (strip mining, landfills, large scale land developement etc) and construction....and I'm sure there's huundreds more.  Infact in 2 weeks I'll be going to a conference where I gaurantee there will be several vendor's booths set up offering their services for those very things.

I've also seen recent articles saying things like the FAA is just starting to take note and therefore regulate...but yeah, when flying these^ we would have to get FAA clearance and stay under 700 feet IIRC.

One of them is my old boss and uses a drone that looks exactly like the one pictured.  Some of the others use airplane type drones.
 
2014-06-25 11:08:09 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-25 11:09:29 AM  

phenn: James!: phenn: Heh. You guys are ragging on her pretty hard and maybe she is seeking some attention. Still, I'd probably freak out a bit under the same circumstances. You should be able to feel somewhat secure in your own home.

It's the equivalent of someone walking down the street with a camera.

Well.. not really. It's the equivalent of someone hanging outside your window with a camera. Hey, I'm not saying she isn't playing this whole thing. Just that I'd find it a little spooky as well.


You can see the picture she took.  How far do you think that thing is away from her window?
 
2014-06-25 11:10:08 AM  
Get used to it.

eric-blue.com
 
2014-06-25 11:24:00 AM  
Up-skirt, down-blouse, what we call this?
 
2014-06-25 11:25:20 AM  
These things are super noisy, there is no way you could spy on anyone with one without them noticing it.
 
2014-06-25 11:35:55 AM  
I was on a rooftop deck having drinks a few weeks ago when we spotted a drone flying up and down the street.  It zoomed in on another roof deck (which was packed...unlike ours) a number of times. We saw the guy controlling it on a small side street near us (out of sight of the other roof deck).  He was livestreaming the video to his phone (which was mounted on the controller).  The video producer part of me thought it was really cool.  Another part of me thinks he was trying to spy on someone on the other roof deck...and probably doing a pretty good job of it.
 
2014-06-25 11:43:18 AM  
I can't give away nude selfies on the internet and this lady is complaining about window-to-window service?

Oh, what's that?  I'm a dude and nobody wants to... are you sure? yeah... OK.
 
2014-06-25 11:43:41 AM  
Follow-up article states that a survey company was using the drone to photograph a nearby 20-floor apartment building.

/cue FAA to slap the company for using it in a commercial manner
 
2014-06-25 11:47:03 AM  

SueDisco: I was on a rooftop deck having drinks a few weeks ago when we spotted a drone flying up and down the street.  It zoomed in on another roof deck (which was packed...unlike ours) a number of times. We saw the guy controlling it on a small side street near us (out of sight of the other roof deck).  He was livestreaming the video to his phone (which was mounted on the controller).  The video producer part of me thought it was really cool.  Another part of me thinks he was trying to spy on someone on the other roof deck...and probably doing a pretty good job of it.


By zoomed in do you mean flew closer?  I assume it would be pretty difficult to see the aperture movement or the video on his phone down in the street.  Also, did these party-goers not hear the racket it was creating?
 
2014-06-25 11:50:43 AM  
Who does this insane attention-whore psycho harpy biatch think she is, calling the police to report something odd and then accepting the apology of the person responsible, once it became clear that it was an honest misunderstanding?

Crazy spotlight-seeking coont!
 
2014-06-25 11:53:01 AM  

SueDisco: I was on a rooftop deck having drinks a few weeks ago when we spotted a drone flying up and down the street.  It zoomed in on another roof deck (which was packed...unlike ours) a number of times. We saw the guy controlling it on a small side street near us (out of sight of the other roof deck).  He was livestreaming the video to his phone (which was mounted on the controller).  The video producer part of me thought it was really cool.  Another part of me thinks he was trying to spy on someone on the other roof deck...and probably doing a pretty good job of it.


Are you talking about yourself in third person again?
 
2014-06-25 11:55:04 AM  

Abuse Liability: By zoomed in do you mean flew closer? I assume it would be pretty difficult to see the aperture movement or the video on his phone down in the street. Also, did these party-goers not hear the racket it was creating?


Yes, I meant that it got close to the crowd...within 10 feet or so, actually.  He kept it out of people's reach but just barely.  The people on the roof deck absolutely heard/saw it.  They were waving at it, pointing at it, etc.  You definitely can't "sneak up" on people with one of those...they are too loud for that.
 
2014-06-25 11:58:10 AM  
ObamaDrones
 
2014-06-25 12:00:42 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-25 12:01:11 PM  

svanmeter: ObamaDrones


Sure, he's got a side business doing commercial aerial photography in Seattle.  Just for shiats.
 
2014-06-25 12:01:24 PM  
Biff_Steel:
img.fark.net

(Shakes fist at Biff_steel)
 
2014-06-25 12:09:51 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Biff_Steel:
[img.fark.net image 300x300]

(Shakes fist at Biff_steel)


That's not my fist
 
2014-06-25 12:10:25 PM  
My anti-drone technology: curtains or blinds.

They are extremely effective.
 
2014-06-25 12:22:15 PM  

China White Tea: ikanreed: Federal regulation already exists on this class of device, and they can't be used to make a profit, like was being done in the article.

Wrong.  That shiat got slapped down like a redheaded stepchild by a judge.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-06/drone-pilot-s-fine-dropped- by -judge-finding-against-faa.html


Okay, I'm sorry I don't keep up to date with standing precedent.  I just stated what I understood the law to be.
 
2014-06-25 12:29:47 PM  

vudukungfu: James!: It's amazing how remote control helicopters didn't exist until just this year.  Oh, wait.

It's amazing how many women "Feel violated" when they weren't violated.


If it is not Mubobobo Bluetooth, it is not "real" violation, according to GOP handbook, and just shuts down.
 
2014-06-25 12:31:57 PM  

Walker: This is just gonna get worse. Drones being flown by idiots are gonna be all over the place, crashing into each other, crashing into airplanes, crashing into your car, hovering outside your windows trying to peek in. Then if you try to shoot them down, you're the one that will get in trouble. Perhaps net guns would be good. The nets will get their blades tangled up and make them crash.


You forgot, Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
 
2014-06-25 12:38:43 PM  
As someone who's flown RC planes and gliders for years, I don't like how everything that happens to be remote controlled is being branded a 'drone'.

In all the years I've been flying six foot wingspan RC sailplanes at public beaches I've never once in that entire time had someone get foamy-mouthed because I was invading their privacy or threatening their safety by operating my 'drone'.  Or had some psycho biatch try to beat my ass because she thought my 'drone' was shooting footage of women in bikinis on the beach.  Never...

The most I've ever got is someone saying, "Hey... neat!"

But you put a quadcopter in the air and people just assume out the gate that you're recording every movement they're making and lose their farking minds.
 
2014-06-25 12:48:19 PM  

moike: As someone who's flown RC planes and gliders for years, I don't like how everything that happens to be remote controlled is being branded a 'drone'.

In all the years I've been flying six foot wingspan RC sailplanes at public beaches I've never once in that entire time had someone get foamy-mouthed because I was invading their privacy or threatening their safety by operating my 'drone'.  Or had some psycho biatch try to beat my ass because she thought my 'drone' was shooting footage of women in bikinis on the beach.  Never...

The most I've ever got is someone saying, "Hey... neat!"

But you put a quadcopter in the air and people just assume out the gate that you're recording every movement they're making and lose their farking minds.


True observation.
Fear mongering does work so well.
 
2014-06-25 12:48:37 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I wonder how pro droners here would feel if I flew a drone over their kid's school or playground.


I take my Quadcopter down to the local playground / park all the time. It is the only place where I can fly it without worrying about getting it stuck in a tree or going in the neighbors yard. No one yet has said anything except for the occasional, "that's cool, where did you get that" sort of deal.
 
2014-06-25 12:55:52 PM  
What frequencies do these things get controlled by? Too lazy to do the research, but I smell money.

1. Drones, drones everywhere
2. Make jammers and watch them farkers crash and burn
3. Profit

/hold on, FCC is calling
 
2014-06-25 12:56:13 PM  

skrame: /ITG: If I saw a drone outside of my window I would grab my .22, probably miss the shot, and get arrested for firing my gun in the municipality after hitting another building or worse.


As you should. If you are firing over the horizon then you are being a reckless dick.
 
2014-06-25 01:03:24 PM  
Just as we can focus electromagnetic radiation in a laser and focus sound beams... there is no doubt that an electromagnetic pulse can be similarly focused in a narrow and coherent beam

http://syzygyastro.hubpages.com/hub/Wave-Guided-EMP-Beam
 
2014-06-25 01:05:25 PM  
Care to speculate on the Second Amendment interpretations of a Assault Beam Weapon?
 
2014-06-25 01:12:53 PM  
I'm not sure what this lady is complaining about. She lives in a highly urban area, not all that high up, and is complaining about a potential peeping 'drone.' Guess what lady, you have high rise buildings all around you, and most of those people can see right in your window if the blinds are open. This has nothing to do with technology. Even if the quad-copter had live video transmitting to the operator, the best it can do is 640x480, which isn't enough to see what you think it sees.

/has a couple high rise buildings going up in her neighborhood
//will fly a drone early Sundays to check up on construction progress (and not to bother people)
///was not the guy from this story, thankfully
 
wee
2014-06-25 01:13:35 PM  

mdeesnuts: What frequencies do these things get controlled by? Too lazy to do the research, but I smell money.


Unless they have a ham license and are using a UHF TX and receiver (doubtful), the copters run on 2.4 GHz, same as every wifi phone and access point.  Your jammer would jam those as well. No money to be made.
 
2014-06-25 01:16:37 PM  

snocone: Just as we can focus electromagnetic radiation in a laser and focus sound beams... there is no doubt that an electromagnetic pulse can be similarly focused in a narrow and coherent beam

http://syzygyastro.hubpages.com/hub/Wave-Guided-EMP-Beam


I've actually thought about doing that to fry the @sshole's amplifiers who drive down my street pumping out 110 dB of [insert music genre]. Require mucho juice, though.

But then there's the optic scanner to follow and aim I'd have to make. Not to mention the turret. By the time I got done, I'd just sell it to the military and go on permanent vacation.

Where would I get my sense of smug satisfaction from petty malice then?
 
2014-06-25 01:16:48 PM  

moeburn: Would it be illegal for me to shoot one of these out of the sky with an airsoft rifle?


Most likely.
 
2014-06-25 01:29:05 PM  

mdeesnuts: snocone: Just as we can focus electromagnetic radiation in a laser and focus sound beams... there is no doubt that an electromagnetic pulse can be similarly focused in a narrow and coherent beam

http://syzygyastro.hubpages.com/hub/Wave-Guided-EMP-Beam

I've actually thought about doing that to fry the @sshole's amplifiers who drive down my street pumping out 110 dB of [insert music genre]. Require mucho juice, though.

But then there's the optic scanner to follow and aim I'd have to make. Not to mention the turret. By the time I got done, I'd just sell it to the military and go on permanent vacation.

Where would I get my sense of smug satisfaction from petty malice then?


5a Lithium battery is plenty if'n you get it close.
Just sayin'.

/psst, DO NOT plant an IED on your street, not on the stop sign, which might be considered a reflector
 
2014-06-25 01:29:29 PM  
I saw some people walking by outside of my house once. So I called the police because they might have LOOKED at me.

/stupid biatch
 
2014-06-25 01:31:02 PM  

wee: mdeesnuts: What frequencies do these things get controlled by? Too lazy to do the research, but I smell money.

Unless they have a ham license and are using a UHF TX and receiver (doubtful), the copters run on 2.4 GHz, same as every wifi phone and access point.  Your jammer would jam those as well. No money to be made.

Yup, and I've discovered that when flying in highly urban areas, with lots of WiFi routers, it is a very bad idea to fly the copters beyond line-of-sight. Normally when the copter goes out of range, it'll default to flying autonomous back to its start GPS position - but if the control signal is effectively "jammed" by stronger 2.4 GHz, it'll continue flying on its own merry way, until the battery gets too low and it auto-lands somewhere.

/don't ask me how I know that
//thankfully it didn't auto-land on someone's deck or rooftop
 
2014-06-25 01:45:02 PM  

MrSteve007: I'm not sure what this lady is complaining about. She lives in a highly urban area, not all that high up, and is complaining about a potential peeping 'drone.' Guess what lady, you have high rise buildings all around you, and most of those people can see right in your window if the blinds are open. This has nothing to do with technology. Even if the quad-copter had live video transmitting to the operator, the best it can do is 640x480, which isn't enough to see what you think it sees.

/has a couple high rise buildings going up in her neighborhood
//will fly a drone early Sundays to check up on construction progress (and not to bother people)
///was not the guy from this story, thankfully


Actually, the cameras on them these days can record HD video with no problem.   You are correct that the Transmitted video is probably a lot less.
 
2014-06-25 01:47:21 PM  
snocone:
/psst, DO NOT plant an IED on your street, not on the stop sign, which might be considered a reflector

Wave guide. Automatic optical tracking so you only hit what you want. Problem is most cars are made of metal and getting through that will take considerably more than the lithium to fry some transistors in yet another grounded metal enclosure.

And yes, you have to worry about reflections. Especially with that kind of juice.

/also yes, this is what I think about sometimes sitting on my front porch with a beer
//neighbors love the idea
 
2014-06-25 01:47:33 PM  
Ha!  Joke's on her.

While all of her attention is on the 'drone' that was supposedly peeking in her window, she totally missed the other 235 perverts in the adjacent buildings who are using their telescopes to peek in her window.

I myself would not want to take a chance on cracking my lens looking at the likes of her, so no thanks.
 
2014-06-25 01:51:13 PM  
Don't flatter yourself lady.
 
2014-06-25 02:14:05 PM  

mdeesnuts: snocone: Just as we can focus electromagnetic radiation in a laser and focus sound beams... there is no doubt that an electromagnetic pulse can be similarly focused in a narrow and coherent beam

http://syzygyastro.hubpages.com/hub/Wave-Guided-EMP-Beam

I've actually thought about doing that to fry the @sshole's amplifiers who drive down my street pumping out 110 dB of [insert music genre]. Require mucho juice, though.

But then there's the optic scanner to follow and aim I'd have to make. Not to mention the turret. By the time I got done, I'd just sell it to the military and go on permanent vacation.

Where would I get my sense of smug satisfaction from petty malice then?


And the first time it fired you'd probably end up cooking the pacemaker of some old guy who just happens to be out for an afternoon stroll with his grandkids and got caught in the crossfire.
 
2014-06-25 02:54:46 PM  

moike: mdeesnuts: snocone: Just as we can focus electromagnetic radiation in a laser and focus sound beams... there is no doubt that an electromagnetic pulse can be similarly focused in a narrow and coherent beam

http://syzygyastro.hubpages.com/hub/Wave-Guided-EMP-Beam

I've actually thought about doing that to fry the @sshole's amplifiers who drive down my street pumping out 110 dB of [insert music genre]. Require mucho juice, though.

But then there's the optic scanner to follow and aim I'd have to make. Not to mention the turret. By the time I got done, I'd just sell it to the military and go on permanent vacation.

Where would I get my sense of smug satisfaction from petty malice then?

And the first time it fired you'd probably end up cooking the pacemaker of some old guy who just happens to be out for an afternoon stroll with his grandkids and got caught in the crossfire.


Friendly fire
 
2014-06-25 03:06:59 PM  
i1207.photobucket.com
is not impressed.
 
2014-06-25 03:21:26 PM  

labman: I like how she assumes since it flew off it was obviously watching her take pictures of it.

A. Most of these just have a camera filming and no one looks at the film until it lands and they get the camera back.
B. The camera is not facing her in the pictures she took of it.

These two facts together must mean ITS WATCHING ME WALK AROUND TOPLESS IN MY APARTMENT.  DID YOU HEAR THAT WORLD?  I FREQUENTLY GO TOPLESS IN MY APARTMENT AND EVERYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT ME.  ME ME ME.  AND MY BOOBS.  ME.

/ME


:::insert image of naked apartment woman from series premeire of Louie that I can't find online::::
 
2014-06-25 03:34:55 PM  
37.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-06-25 03:45:29 PM  

moike: In all the years I've been flying six foot wingspan RC sailplanes at public beaches I've never once in that entire time had someone get foamy-mouthed because I was invading their privacy or threatening their safety by operating my 'drone'.

But you put a quadcopter in the air and people just assume out the gate that you're recording every movement they're making and lose their farking minds.


Surely you can see the difference between a sailplane flying quickly past you in public and a quadcopter hovering outside the window of your home.
 
2014-06-25 04:16:50 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: moike: In all the years I've been flying six foot wingspan RC sailplanes at public beaches I've never once in that entire time had someone get foamy-mouthed because I was invading their privacy or threatening their safety by operating my 'drone'.

But you put a quadcopter in the air and people just assume out the gate that you're recording every movement they're making and lose their farking minds.

Surely you can see the difference between a sailplane flying quickly past you in public and a quadcopter hovering outside the window of your home.


Surely you've never seen a sailplane hang perfectly still in the updraft off a coastal cliff.
 
2014-06-25 05:27:39 PM  

Walker: This is just gonna get worse. Drones being flown by idiots are gonna be all over the place, crashing into each other, crashing into airplanes, crashing into your car, hovering outside your windows trying to peek in. Then if you try to shoot them down, you're the one that will get in trouble. Perhaps net guns would be good. The nets will get their blades tangled up and make them crash.


The late John Updike foresaw this in his amazing novel TOWARD THE END OF TIME, published in 1997. The drones (he called them something else) were buzzers with whirling knives; the way to fight them was with a tangle of cord and glue which you'd fire at them from a shotgun.
 
2014-06-25 06:42:06 PM  
www.thefirearmblog.com
Depleted Uranium, Droneholes.
 
2014-06-25 09:26:54 PM  
www.sideorderofninjas.com
 
2014-06-25 11:00:10 PM  

moike: Surely you've never seen a sailplane hang perfectly still in the updraft off a coastal cliff.


I'm having difficulty picturing one doing so for several minutes outside an apartment building while shooting HD video.
 
2014-06-25 11:33:21 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: moike: Surely you've never seen a sailplane hang perfectly still in the updraft off a coastal cliff.

I'm having difficulty picturing one doing so for several minutes outside an apartment building while shooting HD video.


Find me a coastal cliff with an apartment building on the edge on a day the wind is right. It could easily be done.
 
2014-06-26 10:49:12 AM  

moike: Barricaded Gunman: moike: Surely you've never seen a sailplane hang perfectly still in the updraft off a coastal cliff.

I'm having difficulty picturing one doing so for several minutes outside an apartment building while shooting HD video.

Find me a coastal cliff with an apartment building on the edge on a day the wind is right. It could easily be done.


Moike, your point went askew.  Your original premise was that you found it odd that people freaked out about quadcopters in urban situations, but did not freak out about RC sailplanes, which you found inconsistent.  Since, by your statements, an RC sailplane can only emulate the use case that makes a quadcopter a good platform for remote filming in very unique circumstances (a hotel built on a seacliff with perfect wind conditions), I think you have adequately demonstrated that Gunman is correct, and a sailplane is not a viable platform for drone based surveillance.  Therefore, people freaking out about quadcopters and not freaking about sailplanes is absolutely appropriate.
 
2014-06-26 11:36:28 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Depleted Uranium, Droneholes.


Is that really necessary against 2 lbs of plastic?
 
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