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2014-06-25 07:11:32 AM
I know people can and will complain about anything, but surely you gotta know that technology advances, even if *you* are an early adopter.
 
2014-06-25 08:21:53 AM
Fark Google.  What an unprecedented dick move to make later versions of a piece of hardware better or cheaper.  Now everyone will probably start doing that.
 
2014-06-25 09:35:19 AM
I'd be a teensy bit annoyed if I dropped $1,500 on something just before it was replaced with a better model for the same price, but I wouldn't be enough of a douche to get angry with the company for it. What are they supposed to do, never upgrade the feelings of recent adopters aren't hurt?
 
2014-06-25 09:37:08 AM

Gunther: . What are they supposed to do, never upgrade so that the feelings of recent adopters aren't hurt?


FTFM.
 
2014-06-25 09:37:25 AM
If you don't like it, stop paying to be the company's beta testers, dumbasses.
 
2014-06-25 09:38:02 AM
That's the problem with being an early adopter.  It will be out of date within 6 months.  I bought a Surface Pro 2 back in November and here we are a little bit more than 6 months later and the Surface Pro 3 has come out.  Am I a little annoyed?  Sure, who wouldn't be.  But am I going to get pissed?  Nope.  What I have is still very slick and works very well.
 
2014-06-25 09:40:18 AM
What does this have to do with SkyNet?
 
2014-06-25 09:40:43 AM

Gunther: upgrade the feelings


To be fair, they do need to be upgraded from  Petulantchild 0.95.32 to Adult 1.0.

/delayed gratification!
 
2014-06-25 09:44:56 AM
Complaining about the end of Mass Effect 3?
 
2014-06-25 09:51:16 AM
And they came out with a better version of my car just one year after I bought it. Where's my free upgrade?!
 
2014-06-25 09:51:47 AM
I have the same issue with IBM.

I paid $3500 for my PC-XT with 256KB of RAM and now they sell machines with 4 gigabytes for half that.
I can haz refund?
 
2014-06-25 09:55:08 AM

Shaylen: I bought a Surface Pro 2 back in November and here we are a little bit more than 6 months later and the Surface Pro 3 has come out.  Am I a little annoyed?  Sure, who wouldn't be


If it makes you feel any better, I've heard the Pro 3 suffers from input lag much more than the Pro 2. Makes doing gaming or any kind of drawing on it difficult.
 
2014-06-25 09:58:17 AM

Relatively Obscure: Fark Google.  What an unprecedented dick move to make later versions of a piece of hardware better or cheaper.  Now everyone will probably start doing that.


Seriously!  And you know what ELSE is infuriating?  These 2014  model year cars are much safer and more fuel efficient than my Model T!  I was an early adopter!  How DARE these manufacturers improve their products over time!
 
2014-06-25 10:01:55 AM

mcreel: What does this have to do with SkyNet?


A disgruntled customer hacks Google's soon to be revealed robotics network and reprograms it to unleash hell on everyone around it, setting off Judgement Day.

/The definition of "Nerd Rage"
 
2014-06-25 10:03:21 AM
I want this for reasons I cannot fully explain or articulate. I'm just glad that it costs $1500 for now and I've got other things to buy...
 
2014-06-25 10:03:58 AM
Google Copies Apple Again. Fanbois Still Don't Understand SOP At Technology Companies. News at 11:05.
 
2014-06-25 10:06:58 AM
The REAL definition of "Nerd Rage" is linking to a pay walled article.

Putz.
 
2014-06-25 10:09:09 AM
They paid for a $1,500 beta. They can afford the upgrade.
 
2014-06-25 10:12:16 AM

s2s2s2: Google Copies Apple Again. Fanbois Still Don't Understand SOP At Technology Companies. News at 11:05.


And Apple copied Capcom... Looking at you Super Street Fight 4 Alpha Deluxe Final Cut Final Fight Special Edition V2.0+infinity
 
2014-06-25 10:13:59 AM

Shush, entitled assholes - you're in a beta.

Seriously, that's a ridiculous assertion by early adopters who paid to get into the open beta, knowing full well that they were paying not for a finished product, but for early access to an unfinished, partially working version of the product.

MMO producers go through this all the time, however. Morons who pay early, and lots more, to get beta access to an MMO, only to discover that, well, yeah, the PvP functionality is still in development or, no, player housing isn't available yet, or, yeah, you'll encounter bugs because that's why we let you in, only to complain about such things instead of doing what they're supposed to do - exercise the software and file bugs & suggestions.
 
2014-06-25 10:21:12 AM

FormlessOne: Shush, entitled assholes - you're in a beta.Seriously, that's a ridiculous assertion by early adopters who paid to get into the open beta, knowing full well that they were paying not for a finished product, but for early access to an unfinished, partially working version of the product.

MMO producers go through this all the time, however. Morons who pay early, and lots more, to get beta access to an MMO, only to discover that, well, yeah, the PvP functionality is still in development or, no, player housing isn't available yet, or, yeah, you'll encounter bugs because that's why we let you in, only to complain about such things instead of doing what they're supposed to do - exercise the software and file bugs & suggestions.


The problem is that companies have discovered that they no longer have to pay QA people.  On the contrary, there are thousands willing to pay THEM to do their QA.  It's become a cash cow.  Why bother shipping a finished product when people will happily pay to be in your never-ending "open beta"?
 
2014-06-25 10:21:22 AM
I think it would be important to know exactly who the complaints are coming from. If it's one of the  real early adopters, who bought their Glass a couple years ago during the private invites, then yeah, STFU, you knew what you were getting. If it's one of the later people, who were only able to buy it within the last month or so of general availability, then it does seem like kind of a dick move on Google's part.

The official launch date was May 15, so about 40 days ago. There's no way Google didn't already know, at that time, that they were going to up the memory. My guess is they already had stock of the new model at that time, or were at least already manufacturing it to build up stock. So Google already knew it was going to up the memory anyway, but still thought it would be a good idea to sell 40 days worth of old model at the same price, and didn't see any possible way that could backfire? The entire market for this thing is very tech-savvy people with too much money... "You know, rich nerds sure are laid back and quiet about the new and upcoming technology they've bought into," said no one, ever.

In my highly unscientific opinion, they should have announced both general availability of the current model, and upcoming 2GB model, at the same time. Sell the current one for $1400 to get rid of old stock, while everyone involved knows they can choose to wait a couple months and get the bigger one for $1500.

/Don't have one.
//Absolutely won't buy one for $1500, no way, no how. Fark that noise.
///Probably won't buy one for $300, either.
 
2014-06-25 10:27:41 AM
I thought it was a perk that boosted your strength to 10.
 
2014-06-25 10:29:47 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: FormlessOne:

The problem is that companies have discovered that they no longer have to pay QA people.  On the contrary, there are thousands willing to pay THEM to do their QA.  It's become a cash cow.  Why bother shipping a finished product when people will happily pay to be in your never-ending "open beta"?


Oh they will always need us QA types.  They learn that the hard way if they don't.  Games and some other types of beta stuff can get free reviews but that is the same as field testing before QA testing and you can piss off some people that way.   Plus who is going to tune the automation testing to make it work well if not for us?
 
2014-06-25 10:33:12 AM

Shaylen: That's the problem with being an early adopter.  It will be out of date within 6 months.  I bought a Surface Pro 2 back in November and here we are a little bit more than 6 months later and the Surface Pro 3 has come out.  Am I a little annoyed?  Sure, who wouldn't be.  But am I going to get pissed?  Nope.  What I have is still very slick and works very well.


Here is a thread about that http://forums.wpcentral.com/microsoft-surface-pro-3/290983-just-got-m y -sp3-via-sp2-warranty.html
 
2014-06-25 10:37:27 AM

Lucky LaRue: I know people can and will complain about anything, but surely you gotta know that technology advances, even if *you* are an early adopter.


(Most) Early adopters run around with a smug attitude about how they are on the "cutting edge" and summarily biatch when the newest version of the product is more refined and/or cheaper.  A great example of this is the iPhone.
 
2014-06-25 10:52:07 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: FormlessOne: Shush, entitled assholes - you're in a beta.Seriously, that's a ridiculous assertion by early adopters who paid to get into the open beta, knowing full well that they were paying not for a finished product, but for early access to an unfinished, partially working version of the product.

MMO producers go through this all the time, however. Morons who pay early, and lots more, to get beta access to an MMO, only to discover that, well, yeah, the PvP functionality is still in development or, no, player housing isn't available yet, or, yeah, you'll encounter bugs because that's why we let you in, only to complain about such things instead of doing what they're supposed to do - exercise the software and file bugs & suggestions.

The problem is that companies have discovered that they no longer have to pay QA people.  On the contrary, there are thousands willing to pay THEM to do their QA.  It's become a cash cow.  Why bother shipping a finished product when people will happily pay to be in your never-ending "open beta"?


While I generally agree, especially in business application land, it's harder to do that with MMOs because of the sheer volume of tests required to do so. QA works hard in MMOs to cover all of the predicted scenarios, and the larger and more complex the game, the more that list of scenarios exponentially grows - it's handy to exploit the early adopter rush to provide additional real-world testing, stress testing, and so on.

I do have a problem with MMOs treating it as a cash cow, if they're, in fact, doing so. In some cases, that money's going back into the MMO itself, to ramp up a test environment, support staff, and other infrastructure needed to actually handle the early adopters. Basically, it's important for early adopters to both know why they're there, and to know to whom they're giving this effort. A good MMO production team, like the folks at The Repopulation, know that it pays to be as transparent as possible with early adopters. A bad MMO production team, like the folks at any EA product, milk the early adopters and, in some cases, screw them over at release.

Google Glassholes paid for the privilege of being first in public with a beta product - their fee covered production and distribution of beta units, as well as the infrastructure needed to track and support them. I doubt Google made a friggin' dime - and, in fact, probably lost money in the long run thanks to the controversial antics of some of these entitled farkheads and the resulting highly-publicized bar bans. The idea that these early Glassholes now whining about the round 2 folks getting a "better product" is ludicrous, as all these folks are getting is the privilege of being second in public with a controversial beta product.
 
2014-06-25 10:54:49 AM

Gary-L: Lucky LaRue: I know people can and will complain about anything, but surely you gotta know that technology advances, even if *you* are an early adopter.

(Most) Early adopters run around with a smug attitude about how they are on the "cutting edge" and summarily biatch when the newest version of the product is more refined and/or cheaper.  A great example of this is the iPhone.


Exactly - it's the expression of self-important entitlement that drives me up the wall. "OMG! I'm no longer an alpha have! Some of the have-nots now have a cooler version of the very beta product around which I wrapped my self-worth! How could you do this to me, Apple/Google/Android/etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum?!"
 
2014-06-25 10:59:03 AM
Maybe more RAM will be what it takes to finally make me happy.  Yeah, that's the ticket.  More RAM will make up for my dying relationships, dead end job, complete lack of effort to improve my life.   RAM.  It's all about RAM.
 
2014-06-25 11:08:38 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Complaining about the end of Mass Effect 3?


The ending made sense.  I didn't understand all of the butthurt.
 
2014-06-25 11:10:07 AM
Having this debacle with the rift now.
I want the better and cheaper consumer version, but I also want to be in on the ground floor and see early development stuff.

/will probably get dev version anyway.
/if new one comes out a month later, regret nothing.
/if you pay to play with beta stuff, don't complain that you get early hardware.
 
2014-06-25 11:14:49 AM

rev. dave: I thought it was a perk that boosted your strength to 10.


Shakes tiny fist

I meant to say that first!

/Enraged
 
2014-06-25 11:16:18 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: FormlessOne: Shush, entitled assholes - you're in a beta.Seriously, that's a ridiculous assertion by early adopters who paid to get into the open beta, knowing full well that they were paying not for a finished product, but for early access to an unfinished, partially working version of the product.

MMO producers go through this all the time, however. Morons who pay early, and lots more, to get beta access to an MMO, only to discover that, well, yeah, the PvP functionality is still in development or, no, player housing isn't available yet, or, yeah, you'll encounter bugs because that's why we let you in, only to complain about such things instead of doing what they're supposed to do - exercise the software and file bugs & suggestions.

The problem is that companies have discovered that they no longer have to pay QA people.  On the contrary, there are thousands willing to pay THEM to do their QA.  It's become a cash cow.  Why bother shipping a finished product when people will happily pay to be in your never-ending "open beta"?


See: Star Citizen
 
2014-06-25 11:17:11 AM
I know, it's really cool to make fun of Google Glass wearers, but this actually is pretty shiatty on Google's part. We had something similar at the print shop I worked at. We got a 6-color printer that would print on anything up to 2-3" thick. We paid about half a mil for this. 6 months later, my boss goes to a conference, they announce their newer version that has added white ink(Not standard, usually white is the color of the substrate you are printing on). Plus it's only something like $240 K. Nobody at the conference who had bought in the last year had been informed of this newer, more functional and cheaper model that was set to be released, and they were understandably pissed.

I can see where the Glass users are coming from. Just some courtesy, that's all.
 
2014-06-25 11:20:53 AM

Mikey1969: I know, it's really cool to make fun of Google Glass wearers, but this actually is pretty shiatty on Google's part. We had something similar at the print shop I worked at. We got a 6-color printer that would print on anything up to 2-3" thick. We paid about half a mil for this. 6 months later, my boss goes to a conference, they announce their newer version that has added white ink(Not standard, usually white is the color of the substrate you are printing on). Plus it's only something like $240 K. Nobody at the conference who had bought in the last year had been informed of this newer, more functional and cheaper model that was set to be released, and they were understandably pissed.

I can see where the Glass users are coming from. Just some courtesy, that's all.


Did you buy a production unit that was being phased out and some shiatty sales guy didn't tell you or did you buy a test product that wasn't in production yet?

Because the idiots paying $1500 for Glass are specifically paying for the privilege of testing what is openly billed as an unfinished product.
 
2014-06-25 11:34:24 AM

skozlaw: Mikey1969: I know, it's really cool to make fun of Google Glass wearers, but this actually is pretty shiatty on Google's part. We had something similar at the print shop I worked at. We got a 6-color printer that would print on anything up to 2-3" thick. We paid about half a mil for this. 6 months later, my boss goes to a conference, they announce their newer version that has added white ink(Not standard, usually white is the color of the substrate you are printing on). Plus it's only something like $240 K. Nobody at the conference who had bought in the last year had been informed of this newer, more functional and cheaper model that was set to be released, and they were understandably pissed.

I can see where the Glass users are coming from. Just some courtesy, that's all.

Did you buy a production unit that was being phased out and some shiatty sales guy didn't tell you or did you buy a test product that wasn't in production yet?

Because the idiots paying $1500 for Glass are specifically paying for the privilege of testing what is openly billed as an unfinished product.


Sure, they're buying an unfinished product. meaning that when there is an upgrade available, they should kind of get the option to pay a reduced price. Especially since they are in effect Beta testers. What good does it do to send out an update but not include the users who would be able to tell you if the improvement was the fix that the system needed?

As for the printer, nobody was informed that there would be a newer version at a lower price within the year, nor were they informed that their model would be phased out. My boss was pissed...
 
2014-06-25 11:35:15 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I paid $3500 for my PC-XT with 256KB of RAM and now they sell machines with 4 gigabytes for half that.


If you only paid $3.5k for your PC-XT when it shipped that was a pretty good deal.

/if you paid that last year - not so much
 
2014-06-25 11:36:31 AM
You're a fraking beta tester.
 
2014-06-25 11:37:19 AM

Gary-L: (Most) Early adopters run around with a smug attitude about how they are on the "cutting edge" and summarily biatch when the newest version of the product is more refined and/or cheaper.  A great example of this is the iPhone.


The difference between iPhone owners and Google Glass owners is that iPhone owners will throw more money at Apple whereas Google Glass owners will record themselves biatching about how Google screwed them.

/big difference
//not saying either approach is better or worse than the other
 
2014-06-25 11:47:41 AM

Mikey1969: Sure, they're buying an unfinished product. meaning that when there is an upgrade available, they should kind of get the option to pay a reduced price. Especially since they are in effect Beta testers. What good does it do to send out an update but not include the users who would be able to tell you if the improvement was the fix that the system needed?


Google could have set these terms at the time of purchase, sometime in the last ~12 months. That they didn't, and people bough in anyway, suggests that people WANTED to be early adopters on those terms.

Now they're pissed because V1 comes out and they don't have a spot saved at the head of the line, or because they have to pay the same price as us silly "stupid glasses" wearers do?

Get over yourselves.

// in the printer case, though, you (and your boss) have a point
// in Google's case, it's not like no one knew there'd eventually be a completed product available for purchase, and that relatively soon
 
2014-06-25 12:40:11 PM
WTF DO YOU MEAN, "TOUCH SCREEN" ?!?!?!

zagg-blog.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-06-25 01:14:59 PM

way south: Having this debacle with the rift now.
I want the better and cheaper consumer version, but I also want to be in on the ground floor and see early development stuff.

/will probably get dev version anyway.
/if new one comes out a month later, regret nothing.
/if you pay to play with beta stuff, don't complain that you get early hardware.


As someone who stays on top of VR stuff...

DK1 can't be bought any longer unless you pick it up used.

~ DK2 starts shipping next month, if you buy it now you should have it by the end of August.

~ CV1 will most likely be released mid to late 2015.  There is nothing being relesed between DK2 and CV1.

~ If you want to run DK2 with anything resembling immersion you better have enough CPU/memory/GPU to practically fold space/time.

I'm going to -try- and hold off till CV1 since I'm not a developer and my current rig is nowhere near close to powerful enough to run DK2.  But I've started saving 100 bucks a month now for the rig I'm going to have to build mid to late 2015 to run CV1.

/been waiting 20 years for 'real' VR
 
2014-06-25 01:24:52 PM
There are a number of bars and restaurants in my area that have polite signs asking people to remove Glass.
 
2014-06-25 01:30:06 PM

ikanreed: Maybe more RAM will be what it takes to finally make me happy.  Yeah, that's the ticket.  More RAM will make up for my dying relationships, dead end job, complete lack of effort to improve my life.   RAM.  It's all about RAM.


The Christian God will fall, the Moslem God will fall, the Hebrew God will fall, and then Kali Ma will rules the world!
 
2014-06-25 01:30:09 PM
Hm, not enough nerd rage in this thread.

There we go.
/I know, wrong kind of nerd rage
 
2014-06-25 01:32:29 PM

Dr Dreidel: Mikey1969: Sure, they're buying an unfinished product. meaning that when there is an upgrade available, they should kind of get the option to pay a reduced price. Especially since they are in effect Beta testers. What good does it do to send out an update but not include the users who would be able to tell you if the improvement was the fix that the system needed?

Google could have set these terms at the time of purchase, sometime in the last ~12 months. That they didn't, and people bough in anyway, suggests that people WANTED to be early adopters on those terms.

Now they're pissed because V1 comes out and they don't have a spot saved at the head of the line, or because they have to pay the same price as us silly "stupid glasses" wearers do?

Get over yourselves.

// in the printer case, though, you (and your boss) have a point
// in Google's case, it's not like no one knew there'd eventually be a completed product available for purchase, and that relatively soon


I'm not saying that the Glass people didn't know what they were getting into, I'm just saying that Google should have given them some kind of upgrade option, especially as early adopters, if for no other reason than to see if the RAM was enough to fix whatever problems there were. Like one of the users said, some kind of option to upgrade for a fee would have been a better move.

Doesn't matter either way to me, though, I just see their point. Doesn't mean that I can't see where Google and folks like you are coming from, either. Both sides, it's a curse sometimes...
 
2014-06-25 01:32:41 PM

hstein3: Hm, not enough nerd rage in this thread.

There we go.
/I know, wrong kind of nerd rage


Jeeze, preview-fail today.

/I blame the upgrades happening around here today.
//Maybe I can rage about that.
 
2014-06-25 01:53:07 PM

Mikey1969: I'm not saying that the Glass people didn't know what they were getting into, I'm just saying that Google should have given them some kind of upgrade option, especially as early adopters, if for no other reason than to see if the RAM was enough to fix whatever problems there were. Like one of the users said, some kind of option to upgrade for a fee would have been a better move.

Doesn't matter either way to me, though, I just see their point. Doesn't mean that I can't see where Google and folks like you are coming from, either. Both sides, it's a curse sometimes...


Fair point, but I think you're looking at it like a software upgrade (like MS offering W7 users a discount on W8 purchases) when it could easily be nothing of the sort. Maybe the new RAM doesn't like the old setup or sockets or something.

It'd be nice of Google to do that. It's not imperative. (Which is, I think, the point you were making.)

// not a Glasshole, but my boss is
 
2014-06-25 02:17:34 PM
Sympathy for these people: I have none.

Seriously: "Whaa." Is it annoying? Sure. Enough to kvetch about for a little while? OK. Enough to actually raise a stink over and demanding a free upgrade, like you're entitled to someone mollifying your stupidity? fark you.

What a bunch of entitled coonts. If I were Google, I'd just cut those people from the program entirely with a nicely worded "fark you" letter they can frame.
 
2014-06-25 02:57:06 PM

Lucky LaRue: I know people can and will complain about anything, but surely you gotta know that technology advances, even if *you* are an early adopter.


especially then.
 
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