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(Salt Lake Tribune)   Police find missing 3 year old sleeping in his own basement after searching the neighborhood door to door search and only shooting one dog   (sltrib.com) divider line 235
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2014-06-25 12:50:40 PM
Pussy. A real cop slits a dog's throat...
 
2014-06-25 01:23:30 PM
"There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking.

ROFL

this is why you SHOOT people who illegally trespass on your land.
No warrant? TRESPASS!!


LOL
good thing that the kid was at home the whole time.
assholes
 
2014-06-25 01:41:53 PM
Thank goodness the kid is ok.

The last missing kid who was found in the basement was Jonbenet Ramsey.
 
2014-06-25 02:06:58 PM
csb:

This happened about a quarter mile from my home.  We got a recorded phone call saying the kid was missing, his description, name, etc. and asking us to look in our backyard and car to see if he was there.  I looked around and he wasn't there.  Went out and looked again several more times throughout the evening and into the night.  Apparently he was found before we even got the recorded phone call.  They apparently don't make a follow up phone call to let you know he was found.  I went to look for the house where the dog was killed.  I'm not sure I had the right house, but if I did, it has a concrete fence around the backyard that looked like it could have been above eye level, so the officer may not have been able to look in and see the dog before he entered.  Not excusing the officer, but just explaining how things may have turned bad quickly.  Also, I don't think this article mentioned it, but the missing kid was apparently mentally disabled in some way and wasn't verbal and doesn't respond to his name being called.  I think that is why they went door-to-door and yard-to-yard so quickly even though the kid was in his basement.

/csb
 
2014-06-25 02:11:19 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: csb:

This happened about a quarter mile from my home.  We got a recorded phone call saying the kid was missing, his description, name, etc. and asking us to look in our backyard and car to see if he was there.  I looked around and he wasn't there.  Went out and looked again several more times throughout the evening and into the night.  Apparently he was found before we even got the recorded phone call.  They apparently don't make a follow up phone call to let you know he was found.  I went to look for the house where the dog was killed.  I'm not sure I had the right house, but if I did, it has a concrete fence around the backyard that looked like it could have been above eye level, so the officer may not have been able to look in and see the dog before he entered.  Not excusing the officer, but just explaining how things may have turned bad quickly.  Also, I don't think this article mentioned it, but the missing kid was apparently mentally disabled in some way and wasn't verbal and doesn't respond to his name being called.  I think that is why they went door-to-door and yard-to-yard so quickly even though the kid was in his basement.

/csb


I am 100% certain that the cops need a warrant to search your property.
The cop is lucky that the home owner didnt shoot the intruder in his backyard.

/of course, shooting a cop gets you a death by cop instant sentencing.
/we need to enact what they do in england and other safe countries, no more armed police.
/you need a GUN? call the swat team for armed response.
 
2014-06-25 02:18:41 PM

namatad: I am 100% certain that the cops need a warrant to search your property.
The cop is lucky that the home owner didnt shoot the intruder in his backyard.


Please don't read my post as excusing the cop in any manner.  Whether he needed a warrant or not, I do not know.  And they were trying to act quickly to find a missing disabled kid, so they may have exceeded their authority with only good intentions.  But he shot a dog twice and killed it, and whether or not he was unable to see into the backyard, one might expect him to be more careful if he is entering an unknown area.  I merely posted to explain how it could have gone bad so quickly.  And, for the record, I'm not positive I was even looking at the right house.
 
2014-06-25 03:23:50 PM
That's Ruff.
 
2014-06-25 03:25:46 PM

namatad: I am 100% certain that the cops need a warrant to search your property.
The cop is lucky that the home owner didnt shoot the intruder in his backyard.


Exigent circumstances.

PhiloeBedoe: Pussy. A real cop slits a dog's throat...


Did that ever get greenlit?  Submitted that story from a few sources, don't remember seeing in on the main page.
 
2014-06-25 03:26:03 PM
This is kind of a legal gray area, but I'm going to side with the people who think that cops should have a warrant to enter your property without permission, even if they are looking for a missing child.
 
2014-06-25 03:26:23 PM
Wow. This thread is going to have everything.

/off to pop some corn
 
2014-06-25 03:27:02 PM
Oh, come one, the cops really didn't
*clicks*
God damned pigs.
 
2014-06-25 03:27:30 PM

PhiloeBedoe: Pussy. A real cop slits a dog's throat...


canisbonus.com
come at me bro.
 
2014-06-25 03:28:29 PM
Sleeping in the basement, let's welcome a new Farker.
 
2014-06-25 03:28:56 PM
"A Salt Lake City man whose dog was killed by a police officer in its own backyard last Wednesday said he would not be satisfied unless the officer was fired from the force."

I predict that this man will not be satisfied.
 
2014-06-25 03:29:01 PM

cgraves67: This is kind of a legal gray area, but I'm going to side with the people who think that cops should have a warrant to enter your property without permission, even if they are looking for a missing child.


But.....but.....extenuating circumstances*

*Anytime they are looking for somebody, be it a child, bank robber, Boston bomber, anyone they consider dangerous...so they can enter your backyard anytime they want basically.
 
2014-06-25 03:29:46 PM

OregonVet: Wow. This thread is going to have everything.

/off to pop some corn


i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-06-25 03:29:49 PM
Huh, I was watching an episode of "Cops" where a kid was missing and the officer was talking about how they had people searching the home first - that most often missing children were just hiding in the home somewhere. So apparently that's something that's known. (In this case the child had crawled behind a dumpster and fallen asleep).

namatad: "There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking.

ROFL

this is why you SHOOT people who illegally trespass on your land.
No warrant? TRESPASS!!


LOL
good thing that the kid was at home the whole time.
assholes


You sound stable and reasonable. Just the kind of person I want waving a weapon around.

/yourenothelping.jgp
 
2014-06-25 03:29:59 PM

vudukungfu: Oh, come one, the cops really didn't
*clicks*
God damned pigs.


Those were my thoughts as well, thought subby was just being snarky, clicks* nope.
/give that man the paid leave of absence he rightly deserves.
//farking pigs
 
2014-06-25 03:30:22 PM
Gee, lets think this one through, officer. If you felt your life was in danger from a vicious dog as you crawl over their backyard fence, what are the chances a 9 year old boy would have done the same thing?
 
2014-06-25 03:31:08 PM
Farker writes jumbled headline in own basement after writing the headline long and hard write and only writing one headline.
 
2014-06-25 03:31:22 PM

Satanic_Hamster: namatad: I am 100% certain that the cops need a warrant to search your property.
The cop is lucky that the home owner didnt shoot the intruder in his backyard.

Exigent circumstances.

PhiloeBedoe: Pussy. A real cop slits a dog's throat...

Did that ever get greenlit?  Submitted that story from a few sources, don't remember seeing in on the main page.


A missing child is not exigent circumstances for police to enter peoples property at will. If someone had scene the child enter the property maybe, or if they had tracks that leed there maybe but just because some kid goes missing doesn't give the police carte blanche to just enter your property and start looking around

This is total BS. The cop hopped a fence in to a random persons yard because missing kid, They obviously had nothing to indicate the kid was in that yard. And not only did the officer trespass he then used lethal force to protect himself from an animal with every right to be there.

This exact situation was on fark a few weeks ago,
 
2014-06-25 03:31:29 PM
The police love shooting dogs.  It's one of the little perks that helps get them through the day.
 
2014-06-25 03:31:50 PM
"There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking. "A child is missing, and if you're a parent, you would want us to look everywhere for your child. We wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned."

It's a back yard. You look around from outside the fence. No kid. Yes dog. No need to enter.

So there was a solid fence. Who the hell would jump over, or enter an area with a solid fence without first looking to see what was on the other side? You climb up a bit. You look. The end.

Oh, and a child was not missing.
 
2014-06-25 03:32:14 PM
"There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking. "A child is missing, and if you're a parent, you would want us to look everywhere for your child. We wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned."

That give you the right to void everyone's rights and break the law.

The guy should press charges for murder, breaking and entering, trespassing, illegal search, conduct unbecoming of an officer, excessive force, civil rights infractions and everything else a lawyer can come up with.
 
2014-06-25 03:32:55 PM

Marcus Aurelius: The police love shooting dogs.  It's one of the little perks that helps get them through the day.


It's gotten practically cartoonish. WTF is going on with these 'police'??

Someone will return fire, eventually. You watch.
 
2014-06-25 03:33:21 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: but if I did, it has a concrete fence around the backyard that looked like it could have been above eye level,


Likely. Probably a little 5' nuthin cop  with a Napoleon complex.
 
2014-06-25 03:33:31 PM

nyseattitude: "There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking. "A child is missing, and if you're a parent, you would want us to look everywhere for your child. We wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned."

That give you the right to void everyone's rights and break the law.

The guy should press charges for murder, breaking and entering, trespassing, illegal search, conduct unbecoming of an officer, excessive force, civil rights infractions and everything else a lawyer can come up with.


In the end all he can sue for is replacement cost of the dog, I guess if it were a rescue that would be 0.
 
2014-06-25 03:33:47 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-25 03:34:12 PM
I understand that only minutes before that dog had slipped out of it's handcuffs.
 
2014-06-25 03:34:19 PM

cgraves67: This is kind of a legal gray area, but I'm going to side with the people who think that cops should have a warrant to enter your property without permission, even if they are looking for a missing child.


Agreed. The problem with them making exceptions IMO is that it's easy for that to be abused. Just like the 'I smelled pot' excuse that some use already, and then they don't find a damn thing.

If you leave room for abuse and loopholes and your plan is to just hope that they use good judgement, then you're going to be disappointed.
 
2014-06-25 03:34:25 PM

OregonVet: Wow. This thread is going to have everything.

/off to pop some corn

I'll be in my Lab.

www.labrador-retriever-guide.com
 
2014-06-25 03:34:39 PM
i hope the cop's 'property' gets destroyed and someone gets away with it too.  fark them in the ass with a hot fireplace poker.  how could they not search the home first?  fire him and the others for that level of incompetence.  it doesnt even need to be about the dog.

i wonder how the children's parents feel now that they know they didnt check the farking basement.
 
2014-06-25 03:34:47 PM
i0.kym-cdn.com
It looks like you're writing a piece about police brutality. Would you like to assign a hotkey for the phrase,
" The officer remains on duty while the department conducts an internal investigation? "
 
2014-06-25 03:35:06 PM

nyseattitude: "There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking. "A child is missing, and if you're a parent, you would want us to look everywhere for your child. We wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned."

That give you the right to void everyone's rights and break the law.

The guy should press charges for murder, breaking and entering, trespassing, illegal search, conduct unbecoming of an officer, excessive force, civil rights infractions and everything else a lawyer can come up with.


How is he going to press charges? Call the police? Best he can do is sue them.
 
2014-06-25 03:35:58 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: csb:

This happened about a quarter mile from my home.  We got a recorded phone call saying the kid was missing, his description, name, etc. and asking us to look in our backyard and car to see if he was there.  I looked around and he wasn't there.  Went out and looked again several more times throughout the evening and into the night.  Apparently he was found before we even got the recorded phone call.  They apparently don't make a follow up phone call to let you know he was found.  I went to look for the house where the dog was killed.  I'm not sure I had the right house, but if I did, it has a concrete fence around the backyard that looked like it could have been above eye level, so the officer may not have been able to look in and see the dog before he entered.  Not excusing the officer, but just explaining how things may have turned bad quickly.  Also, I don't think this article mentioned it, but the missing kid was apparently mentally disabled in some way and wasn't verbal and doesn't respond to his name being called.  I think that is why they went door-to-door and yard-to-yard so quickly even though the kid was in his basement.

/csb


A missing non-verbal retard? Aside from the paperwork mess, why even bother looking?
 
2014-06-25 03:36:02 PM
Police officers should always turn their backs and run away from angry dogs.


Always.
 
2014-06-25 03:36:03 PM

namegoeshere: "There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking. "A child is missing, and if you're a parent, you would want us to look everywhere for your child. We wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned."

It's a back yard. You look around from outside the fence. No kid. Yes dog. No need to enter.

So there was a solid fence. Who the hell would jump over, or enter an area with a solid fence without first looking to see what was on the other side? You climb up a bit. You look. The end.

Oh, and a child was not missing.


or maybe go and knock on the door to the home and ask if you can look around ? I would imagine the homeowner would have said sure but let me get my dog out of the backyard first or my dog is in the back yard and hasn't alerted to intruders but lets go look.

Not john rambo over the fence and blast away.
 
2014-06-25 03:36:04 PM

jst3p: nyseattitude: "There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking. "A child is missing, and if you're a parent, you would want us to look everywhere for your child. We wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned."

That give you the right to void everyone's rights and break the law.

The guy should press charges for murder, breaking and entering, trespassing, illegal search, conduct unbecoming of an officer, excessive force, civil rights infractions and everything else a lawyer can come up with.

In the end all he can sue for is replacement cost of the dog, I guess if it were a rescue that would be 0.


Seriously? Why is that?

Or am I missing a joke?
 
2014-06-25 03:36:37 PM
Regardless of whether or not the circumstances meet the criteria for exigent circumstances, would it have been a major inconvenience for the cops to knock on the door first and inform the home owners what they were doing?
 
2014-06-25 03:36:38 PM
remember the police should be the only people allowed to carry guns
 
2014-06-25 03:36:40 PM

cgraves67: This is kind of a legal gray area, but I'm going to side with the people who think that cops should have a warrant to enter your property without permission, even if they are looking for a missing child.


You're probably wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance_in_United_States_l aw

Remember, it's a child, there is nothing the law won't bend to to accommodate it.
 
2014-06-25 03:36:44 PM
Salt Lake man wants police officer who killed his dog fired

Waaaaah. STFU and train your next dog not to attack the police.

/it's a dog--grow the fark up
//white people are the farking worst
 
2014-06-25 03:37:20 PM
Just once I would like to hear the officer misses his shot and gets mauled by a dog. Have him get so hooribly disfigured that he would scare KFC patrons.
 
2014-06-25 03:37:24 PM

The Flexecutioner: i hope the cop's 'property' gets destroyed and someone gets away with it too.  fark them in the ass with a hot fireplace poker.  how could they not search the home first?  fire him and the others for that level of incompetence.  it doesnt even need to be about the dog.

i wonder how the children's parents feel now that they know they didnt check the farking basement.


Thrilled that their kid isn't missing?
 
2014-06-25 03:37:27 PM
CSB time!

We had some busybody from the HOA come by my parents house the other day; trying claiming their Boxer is really a Pitt Bull. Apparently, she got all indignant when my dad explained to her that he's not a Pitt. She also called the cops, I guess. Luckily for us; the responding officer recognized him as a boxer and told the busybody so.

/ just because he's brachycephalic doesn't mean he's a Pitt, lady

// brachycephalic means that he's got a squish face; like a pug or a bulldog
 
2014-06-25 03:38:17 PM

Headso: remember the police should be the only people allowed to carry guns


1/10. Try harder.
 
2014-06-25 03:38:46 PM

insertsnarkyusername: nyseattitude: "There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking. "A child is missing, and if you're a parent, you would want us to look everywhere for your child. We wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned."

That give you the right to void everyone's rights and break the law.

The guy should press charges for murder, breaking and entering, trespassing, illegal search, conduct unbecoming of an officer, excessive force, civil rights infractions and everything else a lawyer can come up with.

How is he going to press charges? Call the police? Best he can do is sue them.


Take your lawyer down to the station and file a report and indicate you want to press charges. They will look at you with death ray eyes, but you can do it. You bring the lawyer so they can't ignore it.
 
2014-06-25 03:38:48 PM

Headso: remember the police should be the only people allowed to carry guns


Nobody says that ever. The ordinary cops probably shouldn't have guns to begin with. Let the call an armed response team if it can't be dealt with by mace and tasers.
 
2014-06-25 03:39:07 PM

nyseattitude: jst3p: nyseattitude: "There are extenuating circumstances," said Wilking. "A child is missing, and if you're a parent, you would want us to look everywhere for your child. We wouldn't want to leave any stone unturned."

That give you the right to void everyone's rights and break the law.

The guy should press charges for murder, breaking and entering, trespassing, illegal search, conduct unbecoming of an officer, excessive force, civil rights infractions and everything else a lawyer can come up with.

In the end all he can sue for is replacement cost of the dog, I guess if it were a rescue that would be 0.

Seriously? Why is that?

Or am I missing a joke?


No its true but god forbid you hurt one of their "officers" they will charge you as if you assaulted an actual cop.
 
2014-06-25 03:39:09 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: Apparently he was found before we even got the recorded phone call.


Grrrr... there was an Amber Alert originating several hours away from me, no details, just a common type of car and a license plate. Like even if I was driving in the area I would have checked my phone for the license plate number every time I passed a similar car. It buzzed my phone every ten minutes all freakin' afternoon. And evening, and in the middle of the night. Long after they had arrested the faked-my-own-kidnapping little chippie for stealing the car and a gun herself.
 
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