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2014-06-25 09:36:05 AM
I read that as Master Chef and I wanted to say "He's just a cook."
 
2014-06-25 11:34:51 AM
He only wanted to see Montana.

/half life 3 confirmed.
 
2014-06-25 11:44:16 AM
He has 24+ years of service without an NJP and isn't being reduced in rank.  He'll be fine.  Welcome to retirement Master Chief.

/reality, I has it.
 
2014-06-25 11:46:18 AM
wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.
 
2014-06-25 11:49:01 AM

way south: He only wanted to see Montana.

/half life 3 confirmed.


posted at 2014-06-25 11:34:51 AM

Half life 3 confirmed.
 
2014-06-25 12:15:50 PM

weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.


This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.
 
2014-06-25 12:19:40 PM
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2014-06-25 12:23:55 PM

devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her or his first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.


FTFY
 
2014-06-25 12:24:49 PM

devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.


As opposed to the 18 year Senior Chief MS (when I was active duty) who got popped for cocaine.  RIR to E1 and forfeiture of all pay and benefits along with a BCD.
 
2014-06-25 12:26:16 PM
This is a rather odd article; very vague about why said Master Chief was removed from his duties.  If this was a routine thing, it's not worthy of an article; if it isn't (which is what I suspect), there should be more detail, or at least an attempt by a reporter to get more detail followed by a "No comment" quote from the authorities involved.
 
2014-06-25 12:29:13 PM

Gary-L: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.

As opposed to the 18 year Senior Chief MS (when I was active duty) who got popped for cocaine.  RIR to E1 and forfeiture of all pay and benefits along with a BCD.


Doing or dealing?
 
2014-06-25 12:36:00 PM
My step dad was a Master Chief. They'll try to tell you that they're God, but they're not. However, God does accept their phone calls.
 
2014-06-25 12:41:07 PM

mjohnson71: Gary-L: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.

As opposed to the 18 year Senior Chief MS (when I was active duty) who got popped for cocaine.  RIR to E1 and forfeiture of all pay and benefits along with a BCD.

Doing or dealing?


Piss test.
 
2014-06-25 12:43:50 PM

Gary-L: mjohnson71: Gary-L: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.

As opposed to the 18 year Senior Chief MS (when I was active duty) who got popped for cocaine.  RIR to E1 and forfeiture of all pay and benefits along with a BCD.

Doing or dealing?

Piss test.


That's a hell of a fall just for doing. No excusing at all for what he did: but there's got to be something else.
 
2014-06-25 12:55:42 PM

mjohnson71: Gary-L: mjohnson71: Gary-L: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.

As opposed to the 18 year Senior Chief MS (when I was active duty) who got popped for cocaine.  RIR to E1 and forfeiture of all pay and benefits along with a BCD.

Doing or dealing?

Piss test.

That's a hell of a fall just for doing. No excusing at all for what he did: but there's got to be something else.


I don't know.  It was 1989, and IIRC I think he was dealing it as well.  I remember a few guys saying they knew he was on *something*.  He wasn't even at the command for four months before he got nailed.
 
2014-06-25 01:02:22 PM

Gary-L: As opposed to the 18 year Senior Chief MS (when I was active duty) who got popped for cocaine. RIR to E1 and forfeiture of all pay and benefits along with a BCD.


That's quite a drop in rank. In the Air Force, at least, you can be busted down to Airman Basic from Senior Airman(E4-E1) but when you hit Staff Sergeant(E5), they can only bust you down to Senior Airman.
 
2014-06-25 01:21:57 PM
In the pic he's wearing a wedding ring so he probably was humping someone out of school.
 
2014-06-25 01:24:48 PM

2wolves: In the pic he's wearing a wedding ring so he probably was humping someone out of school.


That would be my first bet.
 
2014-06-25 01:30:17 PM

devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.



The way things are highlighted now in the national media with regards to military and sexual harrasment/assault, I don't think anyones for sweeping things under the rug anymore, and rightfully so. The CO would burn at the stake for covering it up.
 
2014-06-25 01:38:12 PM

weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.


Peter Principle?

If so thats impressive to get that far good on him
 
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2014-06-25 02:00:33 PM
Command Master Chief Roy B. Carter was relieved by Cdr. Peter Schnappauf III due to Carter's unsatisfactory performance as the senior enlisted leader over an extended period of time, according to the Navy.

It appears COMNAVAIRLANT approved the CMC's transfer to Mayport.  Need more details as it could be nothing more then personal disagreements or management styles between a Chief & Officer.
 
2014-06-25 02:05:37 PM
18 days from retirement, E-7 was popped for a tinkle test.  They already had his retirement party and he was reduced to E-1 and waved goodbye to him.
 
2014-06-25 02:15:57 PM

weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.


I'm putting my money on 

devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.


That's my bet.    That dude didn't get to be the CMC without walking on water, so to remove him would have taken a pretty epic failure.
 
2014-06-25 02:17:25 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: My step dad was a Master Chief. They'll try to tell you that they're God, but they're not. However, God does accept their phone calls.


I've never met a Master Chief that wasn't awesome.  I've never met a Senior Chief that wasn't a complete cock.

I have no idea what to make of that.
 
2014-06-25 03:00:04 PM

Rent Party: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: My step dad was a Master Chief. They'll try to tell you that they're God, but they're not. However, God does accept their phone calls.

I've never met a Master Chief that wasn't awesome.  I've never met a Senior Chief that wasn't a complete cock.

I have no idea what to make of that.


Guess you weren't on the TR in 1997. MACM was quite the dick.
 
2014-06-25 03:40:11 PM
All he had to do was put on his uniform and smile; Master Chief's have got it made and he must've gone out of his way to screw up in order to be relieved of duties. I've only seen this happen once before and that guy destroyed records.
 
2014-06-25 04:06:18 PM

The5thElement: Rent Party: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: My step dad was a Master Chief. They'll try to tell you that they're God, but they're not. However, God does accept their phone calls.

I've never met a Master Chief that wasn't awesome.  I've never met a Senior Chief that wasn't a complete cock.

I have no idea what to make of that.

Guess you weren't on the TR in 1997. MACM was quite the dick.


I'd been out for four years in '97, so no.
 
2014-06-25 05:59:12 PM

Seacop: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.


The way things are highlighted now in the national media with regards to military and sexual harrasment/assault, I don't think anyones for sweeping things under the rug anymore, and rightfully so. The CO would burn at the stake for covering it up.


Then you're naive as shiat.  Of course they can cover this stuff up.  Most likely, it wasn't getting to charges.  Like I said, she (or he) probably wasn't complaining, they just got caught.  The Seaman 2nd is now a Petty Officer 3rd, and a gold stripe Master Chief heads off with his pension, benefits, and nice government job on the navy base when he finishes up his retirement paperwork.  Most of the sexual harassment stuff comes because someone complains.  Sinclair didn't get busted from General to Lt. Colonel because of the affair with his aide.  He got busted because when she didn't get the OER she felt she deserved for the "extra hours" she put in, she went to the IG and filed a complaint.  This guy probably had a nice, consensual relationship, where the junior didn't have a problem with it, and wouldn't file charges.
 
2014-06-25 06:14:54 PM

devildog123: Seacop: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.


The way things are highlighted now in the national media with regards to military and sexual harrasment/assault, I don't think anyones for sweeping things under the rug anymore, and rightfully so. The CO would burn at the stake for covering it up.

Then you're naive as shiat.  Of course they can cover this stuff up.  Most likely, it wasn't getting to charges.  Like I said, she (or he) probably wasn't complaining, they just got caught.  The Seaman 2nd is now a Petty Officer 3rd, and a gold stripe Master Chief heads off with his pension, benefits, and nice government job on the navy base when he finishes up his retirement paperwork.  Most of the sexual harassment stuff comes because someone complains.  Sinclair didn't get busted from General to Lt. Colonel because of the affair with his aide.  He got busted because when she didn't get the OER she felt she deserved for the "extra hours" she put in, she went to the IG and filed a complaint.  This guy probably had a nice, consensual relationship, where the junior didn't have a problem with it, and wouldn't file charges.


Consensual or not the pendulum is in full swing the other way. Not only has SAPR training bulldozed into weekley all hands, relationships with junior personnel training is right there with it. ANYTHING of a sexual nature is going to be openly investigated. The days of quiet go away retirements are on their way out the door.
 
2014-06-25 06:22:05 PM
Just read where it was mismanagement of the chiefs mess and command management programs.
 
2014-06-25 06:27:23 PM

Seacop: devildog123: Seacop: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.


The way things are highlighted now in the national media with regards to military and sexual harrasment/assault, I don't think anyones for sweeping things under the rug anymore, and rightfully so. The CO would burn at the stake for covering it up.

Then you're naive as shiat.  Of course they can cover this stuff up.  Most likely, it wasn't getting to charges.  Like I said, she (or he) probably wasn't complaining, they just got caught.  The Seaman 2nd is now a Petty Officer 3rd, and a gold stripe Master Chief heads off with his pension, benefits, and nice government job on the navy base when he finishes up his retirement paperwork.  Most of the sexual harassment stuff comes because someone complains.  Sinclair didn't get busted from General to Lt. Colonel because of the affair with his aide.  He got busted because when she didn't get the OER she felt she deserved for the "extra hours" she put in, she went to the IG and filed a complaint.  This guy probably had a nice, consensual relationship, where the junior didn't have a problem with it, and wouldn't file charges.

Consensual or not the pendulum is in full swing the other way. Not only has SAPR training bulldozed into weekley all hands, relationships with junior personnel training is right there with it. ANYTHING of a sexual nature is going to be openly investigated. The days of quiet go away retirements ar ...


They aren't gone yet.  My wife's unit just had a female Master Sergeant drop her retirement papers, and the male PFC she was farking make Specialist 3 months early.  The kid had not complaints, so nothing happened to the NCO.
 
2014-06-25 06:34:49 PM

devildog123: Seacop: devildog123: Seacop: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.


The way things are highlighted now in the national media with regards to military and sexual harrasment/assault, I don't think anyones for sweeping things under the rug anymore, and rightfully so. The CO would burn at the stake for covering it up.

Then you're naive as shiat.  Of course they can cover this stuff up.  Most likely, it wasn't getting to charges.  Like I said, she (or he) probably wasn't complaining, they just got caught.  The Seaman 2nd is now a Petty Officer 3rd, and a gold stripe Master Chief heads off with his pension, benefits, and nice government job on the navy base when he finishes up his retirement paperwork.  Most of the sexual harassment stuff comes because someone complains.  Sinclair didn't get busted from General to Lt. Colonel because of the affair with his aide.  He got busted because when she didn't get the OER she felt she deserved for the "extra hours" she put in, she went to the IG and filed a complaint.  This guy probably had a nice, consensual relationship, where the junior didn't have a problem with it, and wouldn't file charges.

Consensual or not the pendulum is in full swing the other way. Not only has SAPR training bulldozed into weekley all hands, relationships with junior personnel training is right there with it. ANYTHING of a sexual nature is going to be openly investigated. The days of quiet go away retirements ar ...

They aren't gone yet.  My wife's unit just had a female Master Sergeant drop her retirement papers, and the male PFC she was farking make Specialist 3 months early.  The kid had not complaints, so nothing happened to the NCO.


Did they relieve her first or did she just drop retirement papers?

My big initial point is that they're not going to give a big press release of a CMC relieved for cause and hide any sexual issues that may have led to it, consensual or not.
 
2014-06-25 10:13:10 PM
Must be nice. When i was in (AF) if you got busted with a DUI, they drummed your ass right on out with a General discharge if they liked you. Unless you were in tight with the command staff. In that case, getting our squadron on the board every week for DUI was just you having a good time.


/fark you Msgt Malone you alcoholic fark
//Too many FOD walks because our squadron was a boozer.
 
2014-06-26 02:15:37 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: My step dad was a Master Chief. They'll try to tell you that they're God, but they're not. However, God does accept their phone calls.


A CMC used to tell me he wasn't God but Jesus had a picture of him on his wall.
 
2014-06-26 08:41:16 AM

Seacop: devildog123: Seacop: devildog123: Seacop: devildog123: weiserfireman: wow, you don't see a Command Master Chief being removed from his position for unsatisfactory performance very often.   By the time a guy gets considered for that job, he has had so many years of outstanding performance that it is like an ingrained habit to excel.

This is most likely a way to let him retire quietly after being caught with some 19 year old Seaman 2nd on her first cruise.  They tend to let those old timers skate out that way, rather than wreck their lives after 20+ years of service, especially of the little 19 year old didn't complain too loudly.


The way things are highlighted now in the national media with regards to military and sexual harrasment/assault, I don't think anyones for sweeping things under the rug anymore, and rightfully so. The CO would burn at the stake for covering it up.

Then you're naive as shiat.  Of course they can cover this stuff up.  Most likely, it wasn't getting to charges.  Like I said, she (or he) probably wasn't complaining, they just got caught.  The Seaman 2nd is now a Petty Officer 3rd, and a gold stripe Master Chief heads off with his pension, benefits, and nice government job on the navy base when he finishes up his retirement paperwork.  Most of the sexual harassment stuff comes because someone complains.  Sinclair didn't get busted from General to Lt. Colonel because of the affair with his aide.  He got busted because when she didn't get the OER she felt she deserved for the "extra hours" she put in, she went to the IG and filed a complaint.  This guy probably had a nice, consensual relationship, where the junior didn't have a problem with it, and wouldn't file charges.

Consensual or not the pendulum is in full swing the other way. Not only has SAPR training bulldozed into weekley all hands, relationships with junior personnel training is right there with it. ANYTHING of a sexual nature is going to be openly investigated. The days of quiet go away retirements ar ...

They aren't gone yet.  My wife's unit just had a female Master Sergeant drop her retirement papers, and the male PFC she was farking make Specialist 3 months early.  The kid had not complaints, so nothing happened to the NCO.

Did they relieve her first or did she just drop retirement papers?

My big initial point is that they're not going to give a big press release of a CMC relieved for cause and hide any sexual issues that may have led to it, consensual or not.


Watched a Senior leave quietly 4 years ago after getting busted for adultery - but only because XO (and most of the command) knew CO was having an affair as well. XO swept both under the rug without NJP. CO retired quietly as well. The Senior's girl got to stick around, but her career's shot - it's a no-PCS command, so everyone knows what she did and won't forgive/forget. She also still works with the Senior's wife. Crazy place. Good stuff.
 
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