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(LiveFreeBlog)   Libertarian VP Candidate wants to shut down "Book of Mormon" musical, because the Mormon protagonist who fights AGAINST child rape is somehow offensive to Mormons. "The audience even cheered. But not me. My values got in the way"   (livefreeblog.com ) divider line
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2014-06-25 03:34:18 AM  
I thought Libertarians were for free speech and all those other Constitutional rights.
 
2014-06-25 03:40:36 AM  
I didn't know libertarians were so PC
 
2014-06-25 06:01:22 AM  
Subby, merely fighting against child rape doesn't make a character or person good all on its own. Goebbels, for example, was quite the anti-Catholic Church crusader. Was he thus good? No! You have to look at the sum total of people's character and actions, not just what they say they are doing.

So it's quite possible for the protagonist of Book of Mormon to be both fighting against child rape and offensive to Mormons. He's not, or at least we don't care about what the kind of Mormons who would be offended have to say because they are insane, but the possibility exists despite what your headline suggests.
 
2014-06-25 07:02:12 AM  
"Now please don't get me wrong, I am a Libertarian, I don't believe I am a prude"

Wrong.
 
2014-06-25 07:25:07 AM  
From everything that I've heard, Mormons have been thoroughly enjoying Book of Mormon.  The main characters are sincere in their devotion, and they are the heroes of the story.
 
2014-06-25 07:28:29 AM  

SphericalTime: From everything that I've heard, Mormons have been thoroughly enjoying Book of Mormon.  The main characters are sincere in their devotion, and they are the heroes of the story.


Tres Parker is/was a Mormon. That's why Orgasmo was a missionary.

But he just did what all good people do and gut out all the stupid and hateful bits and stuck with an idealized version.
 
2014-06-25 07:36:31 AM  

Lucky LaRue: "Now please don't get me wrong, I am a Libertarian, I don't believe I am a prude"

Wrong.


Libertarians can be just as humorless as anybody else. Being a libertarian and being a prude don't have to be mutually exclusive, long as he's not trying to legislate the prudery (which would be pretty much the opposite of libertarianism).
 
2014-06-25 07:56:17 AM  

Gulper Eel: Libertarians can be just as humorless as anybody else. Being a libertarian and being a prude don't have to be mutually exclusive, long as he's not trying to legislate the prudery (which would be pretty much the opposite of libertarianism).


Why doesn't he just simply not go if he doesn't like the play?  If it is truly as terrible as he says then market forces will bring its demise.
 
2014-06-25 07:58:50 AM  

Dingfod: I thought Libertarians were for free speech and all those other Constitutional rights.


It's frustrating that people have hijacked a perfectly reasonable (in many regards, anyway) philosophy to disguise an ideology worthy of admiration by the Taliban.
 
2014-06-25 08:04:15 AM  

doglover: Tres Parker is/was a Mormon.


Nope.

Parker: I've been fascinated with the Mormons for a long time. They are the nicest people in the world. If a religion's going to take over the world, and the one that really believes "just be super nice to everyone" takes over, that's all right with me.

Stone: I was raised agnostic. There was no religion in my house.

Parker: I was pretty much the same.

reason magazine: I have Mormon friends who are convinced you guys were raised Mormon, because of some of the references in the show.

Parker: Well, we grew up in Colorado. Colorado's right next to Utah--you know, Mormon Central. My first girlfriend was Mormon, and I went to experience family home evening at her house for the first time. "What are you all doing?" "We're sitting, and we're singing songs and playing games together." I was like, "Boy, that's f****d up. Families are not supposed to be doing that."
 
2014-06-25 08:04:54 AM  

Dingfod: I thought Libertarians were for free speech and all those other Constitutional rights.


They are...but the philosophy that this guy is espousing indicates he's a LINO.
 
2014-06-25 08:06:37 AM  
"I'm not a humorless tool, but..."
 
2014-06-25 08:07:00 AM  

Muta: Gulper Eel: Libertarians can be just as humorless as anybody else. Being a libertarian and being a prude don't have to be mutually exclusive, long as he's not trying to legislate the prudery (which would be pretty much the opposite of libertarianism).

Why doesn't he just simply not go if he doesn't like the play?  If it is truly as terrible as he says then market forces will bring its demise.


To be fair, he wouldn't really know for certain until he has seen it. Now that he has he can choose to not see it again and maybe request a refund. He can also suggest others not see it (establishing a boycot) and/or open a dialogue with the creator to change it. He chose not seeing it again and telling others he didn't enjoy it and that they should avoid it. I'm totaly ok with that. I won't go, but that's because I wasn't interested in the first place.
 
2014-06-25 08:07:45 AM  

Muta: Why doesn't he just simply not go if he doesn't like the play?  If it is truly as terrible as he says then market forces will bring its demise.


Wife probably dragged him. It was either the musical or another trip to Yankee Candle.
 
2014-06-25 08:09:07 AM  
Can't wait for the self professed libertarians to show up and tell us that nobody but them understands what libertarianism is.
 
2014-06-25 08:10:33 AM  

Muta: Gulper Eel: Libertarians can be just as humorless as anybody else. Being a libertarian and being a prude don't have to be mutually exclusive, long as he's not trying to legislate the prudery (which would be pretty much the opposite of libertarianism).

Why doesn't he just simply not go if he doesn't like the play?  If it is truly as terrible as he says then market forces will bring its demise.


Know how I know you DRTFA?
 
2014-06-25 08:11:28 AM  

Dingfod: I thought Libertarians were for free speech and all those other Constitutional rights.


I did too. Either I was mistaken or somebody is using that word wrong
 
2014-06-25 08:13:01 AM  
"Yes, even though I am not a Mormon, part of my problem with the show is its derogation of the teachings and doctrines of the Church of the Latter Day Saints (or Mormon Church)."

When I was a kid in the 80s, Mormons were still considered a heretical offshoot of Christianity. My highly religious family railed against Mormons (they worship Joseph Smith and believe you're rewarded with your own planet to rule over) as much as they did Catholics (because they worship the Pope, Mary, and they don't take Bibles to Church). That little part of tail on chicken/turkey that's right above the bunghole? We still call that the Pope's Nose.

It's sad to see these religions all get so watered down in an effort to make nice with the others and to not offend politically correct sensibilities. And it's absolutely crazy to me that a Mormon not only ran for President, but that my family who still haaaates Mormons voted for Romney. It's also funny that the older members of my family flock to Hannity/OReilly, even though they're Catholic.

So it's crazy to me that this Judge (who says he's not Mormon) is so offended by the content of this musical. Maybe it's not the musical he's offended by and instead, he's disgusted with the actual Mormons?
 
2014-06-25 08:13:13 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: doglover: Tres Parker is/was a Mormon.

Nope.

Parker: I've been fascinated with the Mormons for a long time. They are the nicest people in the world. If a religion's going to take over the world, and the one that really believes "just be super nice to everyone" takes over, that's all right with me.

Stone: I was raised agnostic. There was no religion in my house.

Parker: I was pretty much the same.

reason magazine: I have Mormon friends who are convinced you guys were raised Mormon, because of some of the references in the show.

Parker: Well, we grew up in Colorado. Colorado's right next to Utah--you know, Mormon Central. My first girlfriend was Mormon, and I went to experience family home evening at her house for the first time. "What are you all doing?" "We're sitting, and we're singing songs and playing games together." I was like, "Boy, that's f****d up. Families are not supposed to be doing that."


Anyone who thinks Mormans are "nice" isn't paying attention to their ideology or history.
 
2014-06-25 08:13:21 AM  
There are, probably, a few dozen voters who are pro child rape.

He's trying to make sure he doesn't alienate any potential support.
 
2014-06-25 08:14:15 AM  
A religion totally invented by a human being who had previously been a convicted con man is one that warrants a little mocking.
 
2014-06-25 08:14:38 AM  
If Trey and Matt offended you, then they must be doing something right.
 
2014-06-25 08:14:39 AM  

GoldSpider: It's frustrating that people have hijacked a perfectly reasonable (in many regards, anyway) philosophy to disguise an ideology worthy of admiration by the Taliban.


Eh isn't that pretty much par for the course for most philosophies?
 
2014-06-25 08:15:09 AM  

Dingfod: I thought Libertarians were for free speech and all those other Constitutional rights.


Done in one. Most Libertarians are GOP/T.P. in disguise so they are less despised.
 
2014-06-25 08:15:10 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Can't wait for the self professed libertarians to show up and tell us that nobody but them understands what libertarianism is.


I have a "libertarian" friend who defines it as:  Jesus + Legal Drugs - Regulation = Paradise
 
2014-06-25 08:16:30 AM  
So the guy is basically pissed about 2 references used in the song "Hasa Diga Eebowai," which is the song where the Ugandans explain to the protagonists just how much of a farked up place they just arrived in.

This guy is really cherry picking if he somehow believes those 2 elements were the plot of the show.
 
2014-06-25 08:17:29 AM  

King Something: If Trey and Matt offended you, then they must be doing something right.


haha yeah they are straight shooters who tell it like it is! giving it to both sides equally! if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen!
 
2014-06-25 08:21:38 AM  
ORRRR...you could just say, "I didn't like the play very much. I don't recommend it."

Then have a sandwich and stop pretending your opinion is like divine fire from the sky.
 
2014-06-25 08:23:45 AM  

FnkyTwn: "Yes, even though I am not a Mormon, part of my problem with the show is its derogation of the teachings and doctrines of the Church of the Latter Day Saints (or Mormon Church)."

When I was a kid in the 80s, Mormons were still considered a heretical offshoot of Christianity. My highly religious family railed against Mormons (they worship Joseph Smith and believe you're rewarded with your own planet to rule over) as much as they did Catholics (because they worship the Pope, Mary, and they don't take Bibles to Church). That little part of tail on chicken/turkey that's right above the bunghole? We still call that the Pope's Nose.

It's sad to see these religions all get so watered down in an effort to make nice with the others and to not offend politically correct sensibilities. And it's absolutely crazy to me that a Mormon not only ran for President, but that my family who still haaaates Mormons voted for Romney. It's also funny that the older members of my family flock to Hannity/OReilly, even though they're Catholic.

So it's crazy to me that this Judge (who says he's not Mormon) is so offended by the content of this musical. Maybe it's not the musical he's offended by and instead, he's disgusted with the actual Mormons?


LOL WUT?
I have heard of this before but never knew the reasons. I guess I could see how you could think that if you had never been to mass before.
/Recovering catholic lmao
 
2014-06-25 08:27:12 AM  

Katolu: Dingfod: I thought Libertarians were for free speech and all those other Constitutional rights.

Done in one. Most Libertarians are GOP/T.P. in disguise so they are less despised.


embarrassed Republicans and Randroid sycophants.
 
2014-06-25 08:27:59 AM  
He said he doesn't want to see it banned, but he just doesn't like it and he wishes other people would feel the same way.

Meh.  Nothing there for me to give a shiat about.
 
2014-06-25 08:29:21 AM  
"(Of course this obviously carries with it the implication that most if not all holy books are simply made up.)"

Well... DUH!
 
2014-06-25 08:29:36 AM  

Gulper Eel: Muta: Why doesn't he just simply not go if he doesn't like the play?  If it is truly as terrible as he says then market forces will bring its demise.

Wife probably dragged him. It was either the musical or another trip to Yankee Candle.


Well who wouldn't want a been from the wife on the way home?

/ you did see that SP episode, right?
 
2014-06-25 08:30:42 AM  

Dingfod: I thought Libertarians were for free speech and all those other Constitutional rights.


Funny. Every "Libertarian" I've ever met was a die-hard authoritarian who couldn't stand the fact that practically everyone could vote however they wanted, and they could vote to make him pay taxes.
 
2014-06-25 08:34:06 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Three Crooked Squirrels: doglover: Tres Parker is/was a Mormon.

Nope.

Parker: I've been fascinated with the Mormons for a long time. They are the nicest people in the world. If a religion's going to take over the world, and the one that really believes "just be super nice to everyone" takes over, that's all right with me.

Stone: I was raised agnostic. There was no religion in my house.

Parker: I was pretty much the same.

reason magazine: I have Mormon friends who are convinced you guys were raised Mormon, because of some of the references in the show.

Parker: Well, we grew up in Colorado. Colorado's right next to Utah--you know, Mormon Central. My first girlfriend was Mormon, and I went to experience family home evening at her house for the first time. "What are you all doing?" "We're sitting, and we're singing songs and playing games together." I was like, "Boy, that's f****d up. Families are not supposed to be doing that."

Anyone who thinks Mormans are "nice" isn't paying attention to their ideology or history.


It's one of those church leaders vs. church goers things, the people who built and those who currently lead the religion are total assholes but the Mormon families I've met have been some of the most scary-nice people I've ever encountered.
 
2014-06-25 08:37:52 AM  

stoli n coke: So the guy is basically pissed about 2 references used in the song "Hasa Diga Eebowai," which is the song where the Ugandans explain to the protagonists just how much of a farked up place they just arrived in.

This guy is really cherry picking if he somehow believes those 2 elements were the plot of the show.


I think this might be what is really bothering him.

FTFA: Missionary Arnold Cunningham then begins to make up stories that soon become a new holy scripture, The Book of Arnold. (Of course this obviously carries with it the implication that most if not all holy books are simply made up.)
 
2014-06-25 08:40:31 AM  
In addition, we should certainly be respectful of what minority groups find Holy.

Unless they're Scary Mooselimbs.
 
2014-06-25 08:42:40 AM  
Remember a time before the word "Libertarian" was first coined and we used to call them by their original name: Sociopath?
 
2014-06-25 08:43:27 AM  
LIbertarian

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2014-06-25 08:43:30 AM  

Dingfod: I thought Libertarians were for free speech and all those other Constitutional rights.


Nope. Just their own. They regard selfishness as a virtue.
 
2014-06-25 08:43:53 AM  

pregerstheHobo: LOL WUT?
I have heard of this before but never knew the reasons. I guess I could see how you could think that if you had never been to mass before.
/Recovering catholic lmao


Hell, iirc, the last Catholic church had Bibles on the back rack of the pew in front of you at every seat.
 
2014-06-25 08:47:05 AM  
Muta:   Why doesn't he just simply not go if he doesn't like the play?

Well, then he would be able to do this:


rs182.pbsrc.com
 
2014-06-25 08:48:52 AM  
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-06-25 08:49:12 AM  

gunga galunga: stoli n coke: So the guy is basically pissed about 2 references used in the song "Hasa Diga Eebowai," which is the song where the Ugandans explain to the protagonists just how much of a farked up place they just arrived in.

This guy is really cherry picking if he somehow believes those 2 elements were the plot of the show.

I think this might be what is really bothering him.

FTFA: Missionary Arnold Cunningham then begins to make up stories that soon become a new holy scripture, The Book of Arnold. (Of course this obviously carries with it the implication that most if not all holy books are simply made up.)



You mean the seduction of exercising power over people that don't know any better to serve your own greed? Like how lots of clergy make up things to get more money in the collection plate, i.e. prosperity gospel? Or how so-called Libertarian politicians spin yarn after yarn of bullshiat to gain supporters and mask that they're really either just embarrased Bush voters or Republicans that can't win a primary?

Think that part may have hit too close to home with him.
 
2014-06-25 08:51:49 AM  
Libertarian VP Candidate writes review about a musical is more like it subs.
 
2014-06-25 08:53:43 AM  
Okay, I'm open to a good dirty joke at the right time, and I certainly do not oppose the use of profanity in the theater.  However, simply stated, I don't' find a story promoting laughs about things like having sex with babies and clitoridectomies (genital mutilation) for young girls to be funny.

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2014-06-25 08:54:14 AM  

SphericalTime: From everything that I've heard, Mormons have been thoroughly enjoying Book of Mormon.  The main characters are sincere in their devotion, and they are the heroes of the story.


I enjoyed Book of Mormon.  When it was over, I was shocked at how well it made the Mormons look.  It's not at all the character assassination story I expected it to be.  I suspect the author's libertarian literalism couldn't grasp the story the play was telling.

The situations the author is horrified about at all taken from real including the warlord's graphically sexualized name.  Somebody can't handle real life.
 
2014-06-25 08:55:35 AM  

pregerstheHobo: FnkyTwn: "Yes, even though I am not a Mormon, part of my problem with the show is its derogation of the teachings and doctrines of the Church of the Latter Day Saints (or Mormon Church)."

When I was a kid in the 80s, Mormons were still considered a heretical offshoot of Christianity. My highly religious family railed against Mormons (they worship Joseph Smith and believe you're rewarded with your own planet to rule over) as much as they did Catholics (because they worship the Pope, Mary, and they don't take Bibles to Church). That little part of tail on chicken/turkey that's right above the bunghole? We still call that the Pope's Nose.

It's sad to see these religions all get so watered down in an effort to make nice with the others and to not offend politically correct sensibilities. And it's absolutely crazy to me that a Mormon not only ran for President, but that my family who still haaaates Mormons voted for Romney. It's also funny that the older members of my family flock to Hannity/OReilly, even though they're Catholic.

So it's crazy to me that this Judge (who says he's not Mormon) is so offended by the content of this musical. Maybe it's not the musical he's offended by and instead, he's disgusted with the actual Mormons?

LOL WUT?
I have heard of this before but never knew the reasons. I guess I could see how you could think that if you had never been to mass before.
/Recovering catholic lmao


My mom raised me and my brothers in the Catholic Church, my dad was some weird mixture of Pentecostal/Evangelical/Southern Baptist that he called "non-denominational", and on top of what FnkyTwn said, I've also heard plenty of times in my life that Catholics are worse than Satanists. You see, Satanists will openly admit they worship Satan (except that they really won't because they don't) and do his bidding while Catholics pretend to be Christian but secretly worship the devil. We're like undercover agents or something. Whenever I pointed out that I hadn't learned that part I was told that they initiate you in a ritual called Confirmation. Pointing out I was already Confirmed and that it was really just Confirming that I was Catholic was usually met with "Yeah, you confirmed that you are doing the devils bidding!" At a certain point I just stopped arguing and just kept nodding my head and saying amen after someone else did.

/Also a recovering Catholic
//My dad and his side of the family's evangelicalism is what put the first cracks in my faith
///Then they got crazier and their religion put the nail in the coffin, now I'm a (mostly) happy and content secular humanitarian
 
2014-06-25 08:58:39 AM  
So you could say he had a spooky Mormon hell dream.
 
2014-06-25 09:00:06 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Nope. Just their own. They regard selfishness as a virtue.


Libertarianism isn't the same thing as Objectivism, no matter how many times you insist it is.
 
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