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2014-06-24 11:45:17 PM  
I'm making arrangements to drop Time Warner completely.
$143 a month for cable, HBO, and internet, and it works whenever it feels like it.
I don't need 12 shopping channels, over 70 sports channels that I couldn't give a rat's ass about (right now they're showing JV high school soccer on one of the channels), and several pay channels featuring 30 year old movies.

I've changed boxes 3 times, and I still have to reboot this Cisco based piece of crap at least once a day.
My internet speeds are crap for fully 1/2 the day despite having the the best modem available and a squeaky clean i7 with no bloatware.
 
2014-06-24 11:47:11 PM  
Or I can just pay for an internet connection, and forget about cable entirely.
 
2014-06-24 11:49:43 PM  
I get about 30 channels for free

/I'm sure the cable companies are working hard to make sure that won't last long, too
 
2014-06-24 11:53:34 PM  
i wish my cable bill was only $200 a month.
 
2014-06-24 11:53:55 PM  

hubiestubert: Or I can just pay for an internet connection, and forget about cable entirely.


I have cable because cable and internet cost me essentially the same as just internet, unless I wanted to downgrade to something like a 3-5 Mbps connection from the competition.
 
2014-06-24 11:55:03 PM  
Mine's still <$100, at least, with HBO (fark you, Game of Thrones).
 
2014-06-24 11:56:09 PM  
What's cable?
 
2014-06-25 12:12:23 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I get about 30 channels for free

/I'm sure the cable companies are working hard to make sure that won't last long, too


I'm not sure they can, unless they change the law, but corporations have been known to do that sort of thing.

I used to run master control at a CBS affiliate about 15 years ago, and they were required to have the gear so that they never went off the air no matter what, because it was a matter of national, and civil defense.

They had the largest backup generator I've ever seen, and there was a generator at the transmitter site as well.
 
2014-06-25 12:14:25 AM  
In other news...the average consumer will say "Fark that" and go to over the air antenna and internet for movies and TV series.
 
2014-06-25 12:16:42 AM  

Relatively Obscure: hubiestubert: Or I can just pay for an internet connection, and forget about cable entirely.

I have cable because cable and internet cost me essentially the same as just internet, unless I wanted to downgrade to something like a 3-5 Mbps connection from the competition.


HAHAHAHAHA!

I only have Comcast.  $60 a month just for the lowest tier internet, or $70 for internet and TV.  I'm still seriously considering getting rid of the TV.

I'm not kidding - there isn't even DSL offered by anyone where I live.  Just Comcast cable internet, or Verizon wireless broadband modems that cap out at 10GB per month at $100.
 
2014-06-25 12:20:25 AM  

optikeye: In other news...the average consumer will say "Fark that" and go to over the air antenna and internet for movies and TV series.


I'm paying closer to $300/month right now when you factor in Internet service.  I could probably cut it back quite a bit if I went with Comcast for both and bundled instead of using Dish for TV and Comcast for Internet, but Comcast pissed me off so much with their TV service that I wanted nothing to do with them after I moved, and Dish has been awesome in terms of customer service.

I'd drop Comcast for Internet but their really the only game in town unless I want a craptastic DSL line.

I've been thinking about cutting the cord because I just don't watch that much TV anymore, maybe an hour or so after work each day.  The big things holding me back right now are HBO and NCAA football.  I'm a fan of an out-of-market team, so the only way I can see the games is by having the big sports package that gives me the out of market games.
 
2014-06-25 12:22:10 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: optikeye: In other news...the average consumer will say "Fark that" and go to over the air antenna and internet for movies and TV series.

I'm paying closer to $300/month right now when you factor in Internet service.  I could probably cut it back quite a bit if I went with Comcast for both and bundled instead of using Dish for TV and Comcast for Internet, but Comcast pissed me off so much with their TV service that I wanted nothing to do with them after I moved, and Dish has been awesome in terms of customer service.

I'd drop Comcast for Internet but their they're really the only game in town unless I want a craptastic DSL line.

I've been thinking about cutting the cord because I just don't watch that much TV anymore, maybe an hour or so after work each day.  The big things holding me back right now are HBO and NCAA football.  I'm a fan of an out-of-market team, so the only way I can see the games is by having the big sports package that gives me the out of market games.


FTFM.
 
2014-06-25 12:24:59 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: I'm paying closer to $300/month right now when you factor in Internet service.


Dude..for 300 bucks a month..is it really really worth it to see sweaty guys on a field trying to tackle each other.

And as for as HBO goes...sure it has some decent thing...but nothing you can't chill out for a year and get the DVDs from the local library.
 
2014-06-25 12:35:25 AM  

optikeye: TuteTibiImperes: I'm paying closer to $300/month right now when you factor in Internet service.

Dude..for 300 bucks a month..is it really really worth it to see sweaty guys on a field trying to tackle each other.

And as for as HBO goes...sure it has some decent thing...but nothing you can't chill out for a year and get the DVDs from the local library.


Well, it's closer to $250 now that I do the math, but now that I'm looking at it, if I went to all Comcast I could shave about $100/month off of my bill.  That might be worth crawling back to them.

The funny thing is that my team only gets three or four televised games per year anyway.  All of the home games are streamed for free over the website, but I'm almost always working during them, so I have to wait for the next day for the stream to go into the 'library' online.

I could catch up with a bunch of old series on Netflix and just catch the new stuff I want to see after it's moved to streaming or via DVDs by mail....

Now I'm actually contemplating this.  I've just gotten used to paying the bill every month and never really thinking about it.
 
2014-06-25 01:16:18 AM  
Back in 2011 after the Fukushima nuclear plant meltdown, the Japanese pitched in and did what they could to conserve power. Tokyo went dark with famous landmarks like the crosswalk in Shibuya with multiple video screens and bright neon lights turning off for several months. We all tried to do our best to use only what we absolutely needed so that the diminished power supply could be shared by all.

A month of this conservation had a huge impact on the overall usage. Tepco realized that the conservation had led to lower power bills which in turn meant lower bonuses for Tepco employees. So in order to make up the shortfall, they raised rates on everyone.

The same thing is happening here. A company that should, by all rights, be seeing lower revenues is gouging their customers to make up for the inevitable decline of subscribers. It works in the complete opposite direction you'd expect supply and demand to work. It's disgusting and customers really should drop their service.
 
2014-06-25 01:18:18 AM  
I dumped cable a decade ago when Adelphia raised my rates from $78/month for all digital channels and HBO to $130. They called me to make it sound like a good thing because I had their new 'Gold Package' deal which would 'only cost' $130/month. I told them I liked the rates I was at and didn't plan on changing anything. They said to keep the rates I was at, I'd need to dump the Digital channel box, HBO and take a pared down version of their Bronze package that would be without certain Sports channels like ESPN or 'extended program channels' like Cartoon Network and History Network. Basically, the 3 channels I watched outside of HBO. I told them to stuff it, cancelled the TV and internet and went to our local Telephone company for DSL.

Adelphia turned into Comcast/XFinity, and I refuse to pay for it. I have Netflix, Amazon Prime and Hulu+ for all my viewing needs.
 
2014-06-25 01:31:31 AM  
I gave up cable 4 years ago. Never looked back except for sports, and hey, you find other things to do.
 
2014-06-25 01:37:57 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in 2011 after the Fukushima nuclear plant meltdown, the Japanese pitched in and did what they could to conserve power. Tokyo went dark with famous landmarks like the crosswalk in Shibuya with multiple video screens and bright neon lights turning off for several months. We all tried to do our best to use only what we absolutely needed so that the diminished power supply could be shared by all.

A month of this conservation had a huge impact on the overall usage. Tepco realized that the conservation had led to lower power bills which in turn meant lower bonuses for Tepco employees. So in order to make up the shortfall, they raised rates on everyone.

The same thing is happening here. A company that should, by all rights, be seeing lower revenues is gouging their customers to make up for the inevitable decline of subscribers. It works in the complete opposite direction you'd expect supply and demand to work. It's disgusting and customers really should drop their service.


Wow that is interesting.  I did not know that (about Japanese power conservation).

Lower subscription rates could affect more than just cable prices though, it could affect the availability of content.  I can but hope that means less inane realtiy television and better internet TV (the content by streaming services has been pretty good so far).
 
2014-06-25 02:05:35 AM  

RussianPooper: I gave up cable 4 years ago. Never looked back except for sports, and hey, you find other things to do ways to watch.


FTFM.
 
2014-06-25 02:21:30 AM  

hubiestubert: Or I can just pay for an internet connection, and forget about cable entirely.


'sup, overage charges?
Every American ISP is going to have laughable data caps within two years, so good luck trying to watch more than eight streaming movies a month or, like, any Youtube.
 
2014-06-25 02:50:14 AM  
Best thing about farked up cable companies is that when you leave them you still get employee cable because it's the HR guy's responsibility to remove your cable package.
But he can't view customer accounts.
Customer care can't do anything because it's an employee account. 
Repeat x infinity

I've sent 3 emails, turned in all the forms on time, and called customer care. Fark him. 
Also I removed my bank account from auto-billing so when I suddenly get a $500 bill it will just come in the mail. 

/cable bill - $19.76
//They lowered it because even the employees were cancelling features.
 
2014-06-25 02:58:42 AM  
Yup, as soon as your "introductory period" gets ready to expire, call to cancel you're service and say your moving to satellite or cutting the cable. 9 times out of 10, they'll give you a much, much better deal.

I got rid of my cable TV quite a while ago and get my TV from Hulu/Netflix. I called up Centurylink to cancel my DSL and told them I was moving to Comcast's internet service and quoted their latest deal to sign up. Centurylink gave me 40 megs down 20 meg up for $19 a month - 12 months, which I'm plenty happy with.

Throw in the $9 a month Netflix, and the HD OTA broadcasts and I'm getting all the entertainment I can watch for under $30.

Anyone who pays more than $200 a month for TV/internet is simply a chump.
 
2014-06-25 03:26:04 AM  
Book marked. Thxs.
/pay more than headline
//note to self
///read above
 
2014-06-25 03:42:33 AM  

TommyymmoT: My internet speeds are crap for fully 1/2 the day despite having the the best modem available and a squeaky clean i7 with no bloatware.


I just went down to cable internet only (thankfully mine is decent enough quality wise, even if it is $62 a month for 25/5

// also meant I cut my month to month tivo service and a few other things

// end result, about $100/month less being spent on things that I wasn't really using.

// that money goes into gaming and netflix now
 
2014-06-25 03:44:04 AM  
When I first moved into this box canyon I installed an unpowered analog antenna on the roof -- haha! No way. I could only get one station's signal from San Jose, 30 miles away. Otherwise, the hills blocked the much closer San Francisco signals.

I'd be willing to try a powered HD antenna and see if it's any better. The Mohu Sky antenna is expensive ... sorta. It's only one month's cable bill.

Anyone have any experience with powered HD antennas in hill country? Thanks!
 
2014-06-25 04:13:49 AM  
Meh. By that time my bitcoins will be worthy 1 Brazilian dollars
 
2014-06-25 04:16:27 AM  
$10 to watch HD. Kinda like the charge for Touch-Tone.
/We don't care. We don't have to. We're the cable company
 
2014-06-25 04:22:26 AM  
What's funny is that a Playboy TV ad just came on USA for free for the first month
 
2014-06-25 05:09:41 AM  
at some point content providers (Disney, HBO, TBS, etal) will begin to challenge any laws governing subscriptions through cable providers, and congress-critters will start to wonder why they simply cannot subscribe to a content provider directly and receive the content via internet stream.

i'm willing to bet this alone is the reason why cable-providers are trying to crush net neutrality now; they see the writing on the wall and are trying to set up an alternate revenue stream to offset those losses.
 
2014-06-25 05:28:57 AM  
I think my mother inlaw still has cable.
 
2014-06-25 05:51:37 AM  
Sports are the only thing keeping cable and network TV alive. I could become more of an alcoholic and just watch sports at bars. Cable might just be irrelevant in 2020, so I'm not sure what they're thinking.
 
2014-06-25 06:08:16 AM  
Cable bill? What's a cable bill?
 
2014-06-25 06:29:25 AM  
It will be interesting to see if the next generation of viewers are willing to pay as much for "cable" as the current ones. A generation that grew up with "free" downloads is going to be a much tougher sell for $150+ cable bills.

IMHO, at the heart of the matter is the amounts being paid to content generators. If we are going to pay someone $300M to throw a baseball, or $40M for two month's work making a movie, consumers eventually have to pay the bill. You can't raise the price of Budweiser high enough, so the only other option is some form of pay-TV.

I think there is eventually a correction, although I might not live to see it.
 
2014-06-25 06:36:21 AM  

SlothB77: i wish my cable bill was only $200 a month.


I was paying about $210 when I dumped cable TV entirely last year. I've been doing only Cable Internet since, and that is still overpriced at $76.95/month for 50Mbps down and 12Mbps down.
 
2014-06-25 06:37:18 AM  

MmmmBacon: SlothB77: i wish my cable bill was only $200 a month.

I was paying about $210 when I dumped cable TV entirely last year. I've been doing only Cable Internet since, and that is still overpriced at $76.95/month for 50Mbps down and 12Mbps down.


Damnit, I meant 12Mbps UP. I really need to proofread before I click Add Comment!
 
2014-06-25 06:46:47 AM  

JudgeItoBox: hubiestubert: Or I can just pay for an internet connection, and forget about cable entirely.

'sup, overage charges?
Every American ISP is going to have laughable data caps within two years, so good luck trying to watch more than eight streaming movies a month or, like, any Youtube.


I updated iTunes last week and it proceeded to download 50 GB of podcast back issues. At least you know when the AC is running.
 
2014-06-25 07:13:03 AM  

hubiestubert: Or I can just pay for an internet connection, and forget about cable entirely.


bingo
 
2014-06-25 07:15:27 AM  

MmmmBacon: SlothB77: i wish my cable bill was only $200 a month.

I was paying about $210 when I dumped cable TV entirely last year. I've been doing only Cable Internet since, and that is still overpriced at $76.95/month for 50Mbps down and 12Mbps down.


210 dollars for cable ? What the hell is wrong with America ?
 
2014-06-25 07:26:42 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in 2011 after the Fukushima nuclear plant meltdown, the Japanese pitched in and did what they could to conserve power. Tokyo went dark with famous landmarks like the crosswalk in Shibuya with multiple video screens and bright neon lights turning off for several months. We all tried to do our best to use only what we absolutely needed so that the diminished power supply could be shared by all.

A month of this conservation had a huge impact on the overall usage. Tepco realized that the conservation had led to lower power bills which in turn meant lower bonuses for Tepco employees. So in order to make up the shortfall, they raised rates on everyone.

The same thing is happening here. A company that should, by all rights, be seeing lower revenues is gouging their customers to make up for the inevitable decline of subscribers. It works in the complete opposite direction you'd expect supply and demand to work. It's disgusting and customers really should drop their service.


But, but, the free market is perfect!
 
2014-06-25 07:59:38 AM  
Assuming cable is still around...
 
2014-06-25 08:02:13 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: The funny thing is that my team only gets three or four televised games per year anyway. All of the home games are streamed for free over the website, but I'm almost always working during them, so I have to wait for the next day for the stream to go into the 'library' online.


Wait, what 'section' of 'the library' do they keep the sports broadcasts in?  Because whenever I check TheLibraryBay for anything that isn't a playoff game in a major sport, I can never find anything.
 
2014-06-25 08:10:46 AM  
I pay $145 per month for Comcast digital preferred, Internet, and home phone. I've considered cutting the cable, I even signed up for Netflix and bought an antenna for my TV, but it's just not the same. The antenna only gets about 6 stations and with Netflix I kind of have to have an idea ahead of time of what I want to watch and then see if they have it... With cable it's just so much easier to scroll through channels or the listings and find something to put on. If Netflix and/or other online services can offer the choices and make the experience more like watching cable I'd be all for switching...
 
2014-06-25 08:15:28 AM  

havana_joe: With cable it's just so much easier to scroll through channels or the listings and find something to put on.


See, what you need isn't cable, it's a white noise machine.
 
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2014-06-25 08:21:19 AM  
I discovered Verizon FiOS internet+phone gets me a free ESPN stream of the World Cup. That was the first time I had watched "TV" since winter.
 
2014-06-25 08:22:34 AM  

padraig: 210 dollars for cable ? What the hell is wrong with America ?


That people pay $210/month for cable.
 
hej
2014-06-25 08:23:48 AM  
Google Fiber with all the channels under the sun is $120.
 
2014-06-25 08:40:41 AM  

dookdookdook: TuteTibiImperes: The funny thing is that my team only gets three or four televised games per year anyway. All of the home games are streamed for free over the website, but I'm almost always working during them, so I have to wait for the next day for the stream to go into the 'library' online.

Wait, what 'section' of 'the library' do they keep the sports broadcasts in?  Because whenever I check TheLibraryBay for anything that isn't a playoff game in a major sport, I can never find anything.


Heh, I actually meant the digital library on the school's sports website.  They do the stream live, but don't upload it for replay until the next day.
 
2014-06-25 08:45:48 AM  

dookdookdook: havana_joe: With cable it's just so much easier to scroll through channels or the listings and find something to put on.

See, what you need isn't cable, it's a white noise machine.


I don't think so... My point is that with cable it takes me 10 seconds and 1 remote control to have something up on the screen. With Netflix it takes 3 remotes and 60 seconds to be in the search menu. If there is something I want to watch I have no problem going to Netflix and looking for it; when I just want to sit in my chair after work and find something to relax to I go to cable because the process requires less thought and time.
 
2014-06-25 08:51:45 AM  
Dropped Cox TV here in Wichita about 3 years ago I think. We were at the point where we had TV with what they called their "Entertainment Tier" (some kids channels and like Science Channel, Nat Geo, etc), ~30Mbps internet and I think 3 DVR's, and one day realized we were paying like $195 a month. We started playing with packages, dropping the Tier, cutting back to one DVR, and the savings were only going to be like $30 a month.

So we just dropped it entirely. It's been fine for us since (Netflix), the only problem is the sports. When I dropped, ESPN3 was still a passable website, but about a year after, all of the sudden "WatchESPN" came about, and that was pretty much the end of ESPN3. To put it in perspective, I was shocked to learn that ESPN3 was showing World Cup Games, even the US games, without blacking them out.

Getting ready to move into a new house with my getting-a-little-elderly MIL, and I think we'll probably sign up for Cox TV again. She watches a lot of stuff that neither Netflix nor Amazon Prime get, and doesn't really have the patience to put up with the hoop-jumping you have to do with Hulu. Plus, it's getting to the point where I either start paying for ESPN again, or I stop being a sports fan. I'm not too happy with the idea, but it is what it is. I'm sure by the time it's all said and done, especially if I want to keep my current 50Mbps speed, I'll be topping $200.
 
2014-06-25 08:57:58 AM  

havana_joe: dookdookdook: havana_joe: With cable it's just so much easier to scroll through channels or the listings and find something to put on.

See, what you need isn't cable, it's a white noise machine.

I don't think so... My point is that with cable it takes me 10 seconds and 1 remote control to have something up on the screen. With Netflix it takes 3 remotes and 60 seconds to be in the search menu. If there is something I want to watch I have no problem going to Netflix and looking for it; when I just want to sit in my chair after work and find something to relax to I go to cable because the process requires less thought and time.


If you commit to Netflix, you change your viewing habits. Instead of searching for different things to watch each day, you pick a show and you plow through it over several nights/weeks. This month you're going to be watching all of Buffy or Futurama, 2 or 3 episodes at a sitting. Oh, Season 3 of Bob's Burgers dropped, you'll power through those this week before getting back to, say, Red Dwarf.

It takes a bit of adjustment, as it's essentially breaking the "Tuesdays I watch Lost, Mondays I watch True Blood" model, but it can be done.
 
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