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(Krebs On Security)   When you swipe credit cards at a car wash in Connecticut you launder them into gift cards at a Dollar Store in South Carolina. When you use laundered gift cards in Massachusetts you get stabbed in the buttocks. Don't get stabbed in the buttocks   (krebsonsecurity.com) divider line 13
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2014-06-24 11:51:22 AM
A POS maker used the same default PC anywhere user name and password for all customers and the machines are available on the internet. Wow.
 
2014-06-24 12:13:45 PM
That's a cool read. Thanks for posting.
 
2014-06-24 12:50:12 PM

flucto: A POS maker used the same default PC anywhere user name and password for all customers and the machines are available on the internet. Wow.


Brilliant move there, geniuses.
 
2014-06-24 01:30:18 PM

labman: Brilliant move there, geniuses.


The convenience of the developers and support staff trumps sanity yet again.
 
2014-06-24 01:49:23 PM
Can someone make a flowchart please?

flucto: A POS maker used the same default PC anywhere user name and password for all customers and the machines are available on the internet. Wow.


You'd be surprised.
 
2014-06-24 01:53:54 PM

BunkyBrewman: Can someone make a flowchart please?


You're evil for even requesting someone do that.
 
2014-06-24 01:57:24 PM
From reading the comments it isn't just micro logic's system that is at fault, but other car wash payment processors. Maybe a reseller rebranded the software or took the idea of using pcAnywhere as an administration tool.

And if you think that's scary just read up on scada security. It will be a quick read as there's hardly any in older systems. And they also control things a little more important than a car wash.

/ have an A1 day!
 
2014-06-24 02:14:23 PM

lelio: ... Maybe a reseller...took the idea of using pcAnywhere as an administration tool.

 
2014-06-24 02:14:40 PM
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2014-06-24 03:41:41 PM
They act like this is something new. I've seen people doing this as far back as 2008. Hell, even Chris Hansen did a "To Catch a" series about it.

Stolen information posted online. Thieves buy said information. Information is then encoded onto gift cards and using an inkjet printer, prints a label across the front that looks like said card. Use it on prepaid cards until it won't approve anymore. Transfer balance of said prepaid cards to another, untraceable card/account. Easiest way to prevent this? Handle the original farking card used to pay for the gift card. If it doesn't have the security features, deny it. Course, that assumes the clerk isn't in on it.
 
2014-06-24 05:24:59 PM

flucto: A POS maker used the same default PC anywhere user name and password for all customers and the machines are available on the internet. Wow.


Almost as Wow:
"When (the detective) asked the store clerk if he knew the individuals pictured at the date and time of the fraudulent transactions, the clerk said the suspects had been coming in for months - several times each week - always purchasing gift cards. 'The clerk told me they would come into the store in pairs, using multiple credit cards until one of them was finally approved, at which point they'd buy $500 each in prepaid gift cards,' "

Several times per week for months, always trying multiple cards until one worked, then racking up huge charges, all in gift cards.  I wonder if the clerk would have grown suspicious if the suspects actually wore a large sign that said "I'M A FARKING THEIF!!!!"
 
2014-06-24 05:32:45 PM

adrift1827: Almost as Wow:
"When (the detective) asked the store clerk if he knew the individuals pictured at the date and time of the fraudulent transactions, the clerk said the suspects had been coming in for months - several times each week - always purchasing gift cards. 'The clerk told me they would come into the store in pairs, using multiple credit cards until one of them was finally approved, at which point they'd buy $500 each in prepaid gift cards,' "

Several times per week for months, always trying multiple cards until one worked, then racking up huge charges, all in gift cards. I wonder if the clerk would have grown suspicious if the suspects actually wore a large sign that said "I'M A FARKING THEIF!!!!"


You make a good point but I also know the local police often don't have any idea what to make of reports of credit card fraud. For example, there's a carry-out place in my town where, if you pay with a credit card, the very same evening people will be buying stuff on your card in China and for some reason Switzerland.

I reported it. Twice. Both times the local cops said "did you contact your credit card company? I'm sure they wont hold you responsible", and that was that.
 
2014-06-24 06:07:32 PM

adrift1827: flucto: A POS maker used the same default PC anywhere user name and password for all customers and the machines are available on the internet. Wow.

Almost as Wow:
"When (the detective) asked the store clerk if he knew the individuals pictured at the date and time of the fraudulent transactions, the clerk said the suspects had been coming in for months - several times each week - always purchasing gift cards. 'The clerk told me they would come into the store in pairs, using multiple credit cards until one of them was finally approved, at which point they'd buy $500 each in prepaid gift cards,' "

Several times per week for months, always trying multiple cards until one worked, then racking up huge charges, all in gift cards.  I wonder if the clerk would have grown suspicious if the suspects actually wore a large sign that said "I'M A FARKING THEIF!!!!"


If one of my employees accepted this even once they'd have been shown the door. That store is going to eat every single one of those gift cards.
 
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