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(The Local)   German Luftwaffe takes part in a training exercise where they have to intercept a private jet. Fark: They ram it out of the sky. Mission accomplished I guess   (thelocal.de) divider line 53
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2014-06-24 10:32:39 AM  
Those guys used to be a lot scarier back in the day
 
2014-06-24 12:11:15 PM  
Math class accomplished.
 
2014-06-24 12:11:31 PM  
They did that during the war too.  They had specially designed FW 190s heavily armored to ram into B - 17s.
 
2014-06-24 12:11:39 PM  
"Up in the air, German birdmen..."


No wait, that's not right...
 
2014-06-24 12:12:34 PM  
Physics Accomplished.
 
2014-06-24 12:14:35 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-06-24 12:16:02 PM  
The government is looking into involuntary manslaughter for those involved per TFA. Don't they know the pilots can say they were just following orders?

/Godwin @38% and rising....
 
2014-06-24 12:16:51 PM  
Someone is headed to the eastern front...

argolich.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-24 12:17:17 PM  
Anybody seen John McCain?
 
2014-06-24 12:17:44 PM  

MoonPirate: The government is looking into involuntary manslaughter for those involved per TFA. Don't they know the pilots can say they were just following orders?

/Godwin @38% and rising....


But the pilot still gets an air kill credit, right.
 
2014-06-24 12:18:15 PM  

FullMetalPanda: They did that during the war too.  They had specially designed FW 190s heavily armored to ram into B - 17s.


They told them it was armored. In reality, both planes were destroyed when this did happen.

This was also taught to the Komit pilots when they ran out of 20mm cannon ammunition.
 
2014-06-24 12:18:35 PM  
Dark Side of the Moon animation link, anyone?
 
2014-06-24 12:19:27 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Damn you subby now I'm hungry.
 
2014-06-24 12:22:20 PM  

FullMetalPanda: They did that during the war too.  They had specially designed FW 190s heavily armored to ram into B - 17s.


I wiki'd out of interest to what you posted and found this:

"On 10 May 1945 over Okinawa, Marine Lieutenant Robert R. Klingman and three other pilots of VMF-312 climbed to intercept aKawasaki Ki-45 Toryu ("Nick") twin-engined heavy fighter flying reconnaissance at 25,000 feet (7,600 m), but the "Nick" began climbing higher. Two of the FG-1D Corsairs ceased their pursuit at 36,000 feet (11,000 m), but Marine Captain Kenneth Reusser and his wingman Klingman continued to 38,000 feet (12,000 m), expending most of their .50 caliber ammunition to lighten their aircraft. Reusser scored hits on the "Nick's" port engine, but ran out of ammunition, and was under fire from the Japanese rear gunner. Klingman lined up for a shot at a distance of 50 feet (15 m) when his guns jammed due to the extreme cold. He approached the "Nick" three times to damage it with his propeller, chopping away at his opponent's rudder, rear cockpit, and right stabilizer. The Toryu spun down to 15,000 feet (4,600 m) where its wings came off. Despite missing five inches (13 cm) from the ends of his propeller blades, running out of fuel and having an aircraft dented and punctured by debris and bullets, Klingman safely guided his Corsair to adeadstick landing. He was awarded the Navy Cross."

HORY SHEET!
 
2014-06-24 12:23:11 PM  
Really this is just typical German efficiency in action. If the orders were to intercept the lear jet and force it to land they simply did it in the most expedient way possible. If they had wanted the passengers aboard to survive they should have said so.
 
2014-06-24 12:24:17 PM  
Someone should tell the Luftwaffe that PIT maneuvers were designed for ending pursuits of land-based vehicles.
 
2014-06-24 12:26:38 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
RAMMING SPEED!

//Don't scroll down on the story - dude's eyeball is hanging out
 
2014-06-24 12:31:30 PM  
arealamericanbook.files.wordpress.com

I read this as a kid
 
2014-06-24 12:54:21 PM  

Garko: FullMetalPanda: They did that during the war too.  They had specially designed FW 190s heavily armored to ram into B - 17s.

I wiki'd out of interest to what you posted and found this:

"On 10 May 1945 over Okinawa, Marine Lieutenant Robert R. Klingman and three other pilots of VMF-312 climbed to intercept aKawasaki Ki-45 Toryu ("Nick") twin-engined heavy fighter flying reconnaissance at 25,000 feet (7,600 m), but the "Nick" began climbing higher. Two of the FG-1D Corsairs ceased their pursuit at 36,000 feet (11,000 m), but Marine Captain Kenneth Reusser and his wingman Klingman continued to 38,000 feet (12,000 m), expending most of their .50 caliber ammunition to lighten their aircraft. Reusser scored hits on the "Nick's" port engine, but ran out of ammunition, and was under fire from the Japanese rear gunner. Klingman lined up for a shot at a distance of 50 feet (15 m) when his guns jammed due to the extreme cold. He approached the "Nick" three times to damage it with his propeller, chopping away at his opponent's rudder, rear cockpit, and right stabilizer. The Toryu spun down to 15,000 feet (4,600 m) where its wings came off. Despite missing five inches (13 cm) from the ends of his propeller blades, running out of fuel and having an aircraft dented and punctured by debris and bullets, Klingman safely guided his Corsair to adeadstick landing. He was awarded the Navy Cross."

HORY SHEET!


Read that story a long time ago. IIRC, in that version the Corsair he was flying was fresh out of the crate, and his crew chief was a mite pissed.
 
2014-06-24 12:55:07 PM  

Garko: HORY SHEET!


Yeah, but I bet his maintenance chief was pissed.
 
2014-06-24 12:55:52 PM  

Cohen the Barbarian: Read that story a long time ago. IIRC, in that version the Corsair he was flying was fresh out of the crate, and his crew chief was a mite pissed.


Damn you.
 
2014-06-24 12:57:09 PM  

FourDirections: Those guys used to be a lot scarier back in the day


Oh, they're seeming pretty scary right now.
 
2014-06-24 12:57:39 PM  
So the Germans are taking flying lessons from the Chinese?
 
2014-06-24 12:59:22 PM  

FourDirections: Those guys used to be a lot scarier back in the day


I think we should ask a few commercial jet pilots about the scary factor... and also, why they are double-doble checking their radios before entering the German airspace like their lives were depending on it.
 
2014-06-24 01:01:36 PM  

Garko: FullMetalPanda: They did that during the war too.  They had specially designed FW 190s heavily armored to ram into B - 17s.

I wiki'd out of interest to what you posted and found this:

"On 10 May 1945 over Okinawa, Marine Lieutenant Robert R. Klingman and three other pilots of VMF-312 climbed to intercept aKawasaki Ki-45 Toryu ("Nick") twin-engined heavy fighter flying reconnaissance at 25,000 feet (7,600 m), but the "Nick" began climbing higher. Two of the FG-1D Corsairs ceased their pursuit at 36,000 feet (11,000 m), but Marine Captain Kenneth Reusser and his wingman Klingman continued to 38,000 feet (12,000 m), expending most of their .50 caliber ammunition to lighten their aircraft. Reusser scored hits on the "Nick's" port engine, but ran out of ammunition, and was under fire from the Japanese rear gunner. Klingman lined up for a shot at a distance of 50 feet (15 m) when his guns jammed due to the extreme cold. He approached the "Nick" three times to damage it with his propeller, chopping away at his opponent's rudder, rear cockpit, and right stabilizer. The Toryu spun down to 15,000 feet (4,600 m) where its wings came off. Despite missing five inches (13 cm) from the ends of his propeller blades, running out of fuel and having an aircraft dented and punctured by debris and bullets, Klingman safely guided his Corsair to adeadstick landing. He was awarded the Navy Cross."

HORY SHEET!


Just about everyside in that war did at some point but i think only the germans and Japanese made it an offical part of combat doctrine. Some even went as far as to ram parachuters.
 
2014-06-24 01:19:37 PM  
Only time will tell, but may be the only "kill" the Eurofighter/Typhoon ever gets....
 
2014-06-24 01:22:21 PM  
When they stripped the Lear jets of their 20mm cannons I knew this would happen.
 
2014-06-24 01:26:48 PM  

Mad Mark: When they stripped the Lear jets of their 20mm cannons I knew this would happen.


When you outlaw 20mm autocannons with DU rounds, only outlaws will have 20mm autocannons.
 
2014-06-24 01:41:21 PM  
stonecrab7.sharepoint.com
 
2014-06-24 01:48:00 PM  

sandiego1989: Only time will tell, but may be the only "kill" the Eurofighter/Typhoon ever gets....


Apart from a few F-22s in excercises....
 
2014-06-24 01:48:35 PM  
uploads.neatorama.com

"I think I found the problem.There is a plane stuck to your plane. See, right there."
 
2014-06-24 01:52:07 PM  
Was it a photo op?

i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-06-24 01:55:10 PM  
Now it's on to England and those damn Spitfires.
 
2014-06-24 02:02:30 PM  
Who's Goering to get in trouble for this?
 
2014-06-24 02:19:44 PM  

Tsar_Bomba1: Was it a photo op?

[i1.ytimg.com image 300x225]


~sighs~

RIP Valkyrie
 
2014-06-24 02:19:54 PM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-06-24 02:24:28 PM  
Just the visual from the headline is enough... no need to read TFA.

"fark you, *SMASH*"  "Hey, we 'caught' the plane!"
 
2014-06-24 02:28:44 PM  

Publikwerks: RAMMING SPEED!

//Don't scroll down on the story - dude's eyeball is hanging out


Yuck, you werent kidding
 
2014-06-24 02:32:00 PM  
maybe they watched TopGun before and wanted to try that upside down flying over the aircraft.

/don't think a link of mine has gone green that fast before
 
2014-06-24 02:40:43 PM  
As opposed to the Mexican Luftwaffe, Subby?
 
2014-06-24 02:56:34 PM  

Grapple: Just the visual from the headline is enough... no need to read TFA.

"fark you, *SMASH*"  "Hey, we 'caught' the plane!"


It's an interceptor's job to hit the target in a single pass. What did they expect?
 
2014-06-24 02:57:05 PM  

shortdarkandmeh: As opposed to the Mexican Luftwaffe, Subby?


Why does Mexico's air force always crash?

Because they always take a siesta when they're at 12 o'clock.
 
2014-06-24 03:14:36 PM  
Wow, the plane crashed a Jon Elway Vortex throw away from that house!
 
2014-06-24 03:14:51 PM  

Nix Nightbird: shortdarkandmeh: As opposed to the Mexican Luftwaffe, Subby?

Why does Mexico's air force always crash?

Because they always take a siesta when they're at 12 o'clock.


BA-DUM TISH!
/Mrs. Meh and I ate lunch at a Mexican restaurant yesterday. I asked the owner if he'd been watching the Cup. He said yes and "maybe Mexico will go back to Mexico."
//That's some hardcore racism right there.
 
2014-06-24 04:49:49 PM  
"At least one of the unnamed passengers, aged 50 and 43...."

Like farking fingernails on a farking chalkboard!!
 
2014-06-24 05:52:57 PM  
UPDATE: At least one person is dead after a plane crash in Sauerland on Monday evening.

Grandad always referred to it as "Krautland."
 
2014-06-24 06:03:08 PM  
...Also, IIRC way back before 9/11 the intercept procedures in the ADIZ (google it) between the US and Bahamas were amended because of an inflight collision between an F16 and a personal aircraft.
 
2014-06-24 07:23:47 PM  
Either it was an unfortunately accident... or someone thought Snowden could be onboard.
 
2014-06-24 08:08:57 PM  
Nailed it!

Slapped backs and kudos all around.
 
2014-06-25 08:01:40 AM  

goatan: Garko: FullMetalPanda: They did that during the war too.  They had specially designed FW 190s heavily armored to ram into B - 17s.

I wiki'd out of interest to what you posted and found this:

"On 10 May 1945 over Okinawa, Marine Lieutenant Robert R. Klingman and three other pilots of VMF-312 climbed to intercept aKawasaki Ki-45 Toryu ("Nick") twin-engined heavy fighter flying reconnaissance at 25,000 feet (7,600 m), but the "Nick" began climbing higher. Two of the FG-1D Corsairs ceased their pursuit at 36,000 feet (11,000 m), but Marine Captain Kenneth Reusser and his wingman Klingman continued to 38,000 feet (12,000 m), expending most of their .50 caliber ammunition to lighten their aircraft. Reusser scored hits on the "Nick's" port engine, but ran out of ammunition, and was under fire from the Japanese rear gunner. Klingman lined up for a shot at a distance of 50 feet (15 m) when his guns jammed due to the extreme cold. He approached the "Nick" three times to damage it with his propeller, chopping away at his opponent's rudder, rear cockpit, and right stabilizer. The Toryu spun down to 15,000 feet (4,600 m) where its wings came off. Despite missing five inches (13 cm) from the ends of his propeller blades, running out of fuel and having an aircraft dented and punctured by debris and bullets, Klingman safely guided his Corsair to adeadstick landing. He was awarded the Navy Cross."

HORY SHEET!

Just about everyside in that war did at some point but i think only the germans and Japanese made it an offical part of combat doctrine. Some even went as far as to ram parachuters.


The Soviets taught it (and practiced it plenty) during the war and for a long time afterwards. They were big fans of the strategy.
 
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