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2014-06-24 09:58:19 AM  
My god, what will you all do? Continue to hate Lebron, continue to hate Miami, or see if you can stretch it to hating both?
 
2014-06-24 10:05:29 AM  
He's taking his talents away from South Beach.
 
2014-06-24 10:23:05 AM  

dj_spanmaster: My god, what will you all do? Continue to hate Lebron, continue to hate Miami, or see if you can stretch it to hating both?

I didn't have any problems hating LeBron and Miami at the same time when he was in Cleveland. I didn't stop hating Paul Pierce or the Celtics when he went to Brooklyn either.
 
2014-06-24 10:42:57 AM  
Wow, I didn't think he would opt out.

I'm slightly surprised.

Going back to sipping my Chai now.

That is all.
 
2014-06-24 10:45:50 AM  
Actually, I would bet the end-game here is that the Big 3 all opt out, and resign 2-3 year, favorably priced/structured contracts. It makes the most sense for helping the team, and makes the most sense for LeBron and his image, which he absolutely does care about. Yes, Wade looked done, but so did Manu during last years finals.

Heat have a lot of contracts coming off the books, if a Big 3 restructure can help them out enough, they can be a FA player. Not for Melo or anything like that, but 3 or 4 solid vets to round out the roster.
 
2014-06-24 10:46:00 AM  
LeBron to Suns in exchange for 10% of the team ownership.
 
2014-06-24 10:50:00 AM  

dj_spanmaster: My god, what will you all do? Continue to hate Lebron, continue to hate Miami, or see if you can stretch it to hating both?


Stretch it to hating both? You say that like it's hard or something.

Wonder where he and Melo are going... things just got real interesting.
 
2014-06-24 10:52:56 AM  
Wade is done. Bosh can't rebound and/or handle playing the post.

Why should LeBron stay?
 
2014-06-24 10:56:29 AM  

jayhawk88: Actually, I would bet the end-game here is that the Big 3 all opt out, and resign 2-3 year, favorably priced/structured contracts. It makes the most sense for helping the team, and makes the most sense for LeBron and his image, which he absolutely does care about. Yes, Wade looked done, but so did Manu during last years finals.

Heat have a lot of contracts coming off the books, if a Big 3 restructure can help them out enough, they can be a FA player. Not for Melo or anything like that, but 3 or 4 solid vets to round out the roster.


I think Wade's going to be the sticking point.  He's due the biggest paychecks if he exercises his player-option, and has the most to lose because there's no way the Heat could pay him at the level of Bosh or Lebron.  He's due $44M through 2016 if he opts in both years, and if he doesn't he's not going to make it through the remainder of his career.   As fans, we talk about players taking less money so casually, but that's a ton of money to walk away from.

Crystal ball time:  Wade opts in, Lebron won't stay in Miami.  I'm thinking he ends up in Chicago, just because it makes sense to stay in the east if you want to stay on the Finals fast-track.
 
2014-06-24 10:56:52 AM  

lifeboat: dj_spanmaster: My god, what will you all do? Continue to hate Lebron, continue to hate Miami, or see if you can stretch it to hating both?

Stretch it to hating both? You say that like it's hard or something.

Wonder where he and Melo are going... things just got real interesting.


How about the King come play for the Sacramento Kings!!

/never gonna happen
//at least the Lakers were worse than us this year
 
2014-06-24 10:58:45 AM  
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2014-06-24 11:01:23 AM  

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2014-06-24 11:02:31 AM  
20 mil isnt enough?
 
2014-06-24 11:02:44 AM  

Lost Thought 00: LeBron to Suns in exchange for 10% of the team ownership.


I don't know if it will be Phoenix, but I'm guessing part ownership is the next step to get top tier players.
 
2014-06-24 11:02:51 AM  
Brave Sir Lebron ran away
 
2014-06-24 11:03:28 AM  
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2014-06-24 11:03:37 AM  
Saddle up your ponies white knights of the King James. Theres a long road ahead of you in the sports tab and it is going to some ugly places.
 
2014-06-24 11:03:38 AM  
Spurs maybe?  See him taking the reins from Tim Duncan similar to how Duncan inherited the mantle from David Robinson?
 
2014-06-24 11:05:11 AM  

dj_spanmaster: My god, what will you all do? Continue to hate Lebron, continue to hate Miami, or see if you can stretch it to hating both?


My annoyance follows LeBron. Thanks for asking
 
2014-06-24 11:05:27 AM  
How about NOLA? Put him with the unibrow for the next 4-5 years. NOLA has a solid core and tradeable assests. NOLA would have to be willing to pay some of the luxary tax I'm sure, but would you pay some of that now in order to get Lebron to sign on for 4-5 years right when the unibrow is turning into the second coming of Ewing.

/it will never happen
//still would be great for NOLA if it did
///never gonna happen
 
2014-06-24 11:05:36 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: Wow, I didn't think he would opt out.


Why wouldn't he?

If he keeps his contract, he gets 2 years and $43M.  He's arguably been the best or second-best player in the NBA every year for the past 6 or 7 years.  The last time he wasn't in the top 5 of MVP voting was 2004.  He's only 29, but he could retire tomorrow and waltz into the NBA Hall of Fame.  He probably has 5-7 years left at a top level of play.

If he waits two years, he could get hurt.  He could have a bad season.  His numbers will probably drop off, because that's what happens to NBA players at 30.  All of those will influence the contract he gets for his early 30s.

You don't think someone will step forward and offer him more money and a longer-term deal right now?  The only reason for him to take the Miami extension would be to win championships, but it's not clear the rest of the team is so much better than what other teams could offer him.
 
2014-06-24 11:08:05 AM  
I'll wait to see what Wade does. If Wade also opts out, then it's likely both will try to rework deals to stay in Miami and build around them.
 
2014-06-24 11:08:45 AM  

NEPAman: Spurs maybe?  See him taking the reins from Tim Duncan similar to how Duncan inherited the mantle from David Robinson?


I'm thinking no.  You'd be looking at a sign-and-trade, cause the Spurs don't have the cap space.  I'm not even sure how you'd get there with a sign-and-trade, because no one on the Spurs team is making anything like what Lebron would command.  Plus, outside of Kawhi, who would Miami want on the Spurs roster?
 
2014-06-24 11:09:21 AM  

chimp_ninja: You don't think someone will step forward and offer him more money and a longer-term deal right now?


No other team could offer him more money, and no team (including miami) would balk at giving him the max 5 year length
 
2014-06-24 11:09:27 AM  
So... does this mean we're going to be treated to another hour long televised announcement?

/ but it's cool, it's for the children after all
 
2014-06-24 11:09:29 AM  
And if you think he's A: going back to Cleveland, or B: going anywhere in the West, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
 
2014-06-24 11:09:53 AM  
Isn't this just a way to restructure his contract with the Heat, so to make more?

Otherwise, I'd like to see another East team take Lebron. Goodbye, Bosh and D-Wade. Hello, Nene and John Wall!
 
2014-06-24 11:11:57 AM  

EyeballKid: Isn't this just a way to restructure his contract with the Heat, so to make more?

Otherwise, I'd like to see another East team take Lebron. Goodbye, Bosh and D-Wade. Hello, Nene and John Wall!


He doesn't need to make more, he needs to get better players around him
 
2014-06-24 11:15:24 AM  

lifeboat: So... does this mean we're going to be treated to another hour long televised announcement?

/ but it's cool, it's for the children after all


The further we get from that, the more share of the blame I assign to ESPN
 
2014-06-24 11:16:20 AM  

VvonderJesus: EyeballKid: Isn't this just a way to restructure his contract with the Heat, so to make more?

Otherwise, I'd like to see another East team take Lebron. Goodbye, Bosh and D-Wade. Hello, Nene and John Wall!

He doesn't need to make more, he needs to get better players around him


So...Hello, Nene and John Wall?
 
2014-06-24 11:16:36 AM  

NEPAman: Spurs maybe?  See him taking the reins from Tim Duncan similar to how Duncan inherited the mantle from David Robinson?


Kawhi has already done that. He's even in the H-E-B commercials, which is the true sign that he's arrived.
 
2014-06-24 11:16:55 AM  
Come to Chicago, LeBron...... Come to Chicago........ it's a great city to be fantastically wealthy in.......... pairing with Rose and Thibs will mean more rings......... come to Chicago...........
 
2014-06-24 11:17:28 AM  
Just PLEASE, someone reassure me that this will not lead to another one hour TV special where this spoiled brat holds the NBA, ESPN, and America hostage for an hour?

That last "special" was bad enough.
 
2014-06-24 11:18:06 AM  
Oh man...I wish I hadn't just bought those 20 Heat/Lebron jerseys.
It was going to cover up my Lebron/Cavs tattoo
 
2014-06-24 11:19:03 AM  
Restructure contract, Spurs/Duncan-style, give the front office more room to reload the role-players.  I'd be surprised he goes anywhere.

He also likes attention, so this helps.  He's a hell of a player and I don't begrudge him that, but he's a bit of an attention whore.
 
2014-06-24 11:20:00 AM  

Gonz: NEPAman: Spurs maybe?  See him taking the reins from Tim Duncan similar to how Duncan inherited the mantle from David Robinson?

Kawhi has already done that. He's even in the H-E-B commercials, which is the true sign that he's arrived.


"It's good"
 
2014-06-24 11:20:51 AM  

regindyn: I think Wade's going to be the sticking point.  He's due the biggest paychecks if he exercises his player-option, and has the most to lose because there's no way the Heat could pay him at the level of Bosh or Lebron.  He's due $44M through 2016 if he opts in both years, and if he doesn't he's not going to make it through the remainder of his career.   As fans, we talk about players taking less money so casually, but that's a ton of money to walk away from.


It is, but at the same time, Wade's already made something like $121m in contracts, not counting endorsements and such. Plus, he's the kind of guy that could slide into a Heat front-office job and make back any money he's giving up now. Or maybe become a TV guy. Wade's not dumb, if he opts in he probably knows LeBron will leave, and then he's essentially back on the '09-10 heat team, except he's not good enough to carry them to 45 wins any longer. If you're Wade, why would you choose the money and go through another season fighting for a 6-8 playoff spot, over a legit chance at another title run?

I think Riley will hold these guys together and get them to see the big picture. If Wade opts in he'll be seen greedy, and it will be seen as an acknowledgement that he knows he's done. If LeBron goes elsewhere, he's a mercenary. If Bosh leaves, it's either going to be to a terrible team where he's "The Man", or to a team where he's not The Man, so what would be the point?

The East is still pretty down, even if Melo ends up on the Bulls. The Pacers are probably not going to be significantly better, unless losing Lance is a major addition by subtraction.
 
2014-06-24 11:25:27 AM  
Yeah, he's going to take less money, and "persuade" Bosh/Wade to do the same. It'll be interesting about the length, though. I'd still sign a shorter deal in case Wade's legs fall off in a month. Shorter max deals means the players have more leverage over non-financial matters, especially the championship caliber players. I still shake my head at the Lakers' "plan" of letting free-agents/Kobe pick the next coach. At least they're admitting that Jimmy Buss is the worst coach evaluator in Lakers' history (only Cleveland was capable of hiring Mike Brown twice).
 
2014-06-24 11:25:28 AM  
I really feel sorry for all the hardcore Miami Heat fans.

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Sorry Steve.
 
2014-06-24 11:29:17 AM  

Orgasmatron138: Come to Chicago, LeBron...... Come to Chicago........ it's a great city to be fantastically wealthy in.......... pairing with Rose and Thibs will mean more rings......... come to Chicago...........


No way he comes to the house that Mike built. The near hourly comparisons to MJ he would face - and why he will never measure up to His Airness - would drive that man over the edge.

And frankly, I couldn't blame hime for not wanting to deal with all that.

As someone above mentioned - this may just be a way to restructure his contract with the Heat.
 
2014-06-24 11:29:46 AM  
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Let me have my illusions for now...
 
2014-06-24 11:31:07 AM  

Trocadero: Yeah, he's going to take less money, and "persuade" Bosh/Wade to do the same.


That is probably more likely here. LeBron will negotiate a more cap-friendly contract, then Bosh will opt out and negotiate a more cap-friendly contract, then Wade will opt out and the Heat front office will imediately change all their phone numbers, hide under the desk and pretend to be out when he comes round and get in touch with Luol Deng's agent.
 
2014-06-24 11:31:26 AM  

Orgasmatron138: Come to Chicago, LeBron...... Come to Chicago........ it's a great city to be fantastically wealthy in.......... pairing with Rose and Thibs will mean more rings......... come to Chicago...........


Him or Melo, would be great to get either one... after dumping Deng.

/ I think we'll get one of them.
 
2014-06-24 11:33:12 AM  

balfourk: How about NOLA? Put him with the unibrow for the next 4-5 years. NOLA has a solid core and tradeable assests. NOLA would have to be willing to pay some of the luxary tax I'm sure, but would you pay some of that now in order to get Lebron to sign on for 4-5 years right when the unibrow is turning into the second coming of Ewing.

/it will never happen
//still would be great for NOLA if it did
///never gonna happen


The thought of Tom Benson cutting checks to both Drew Brees and LeBron James is pretty funny, even though I don't think it would happen. The NBA has about six markets players want to be in, and New Orleans is not one of them. That said, we are a NFL town, and bringing LeBron in would be a huge coup for the Pelicans and would boost ticket sales (and luxury box sales) through the roof.
 
2014-06-24 11:34:49 AM  
I don't want Lebron on my Chicago Bulls, Carmelo sure, but not Lebron. I could see him going to Houston or OKC maybe, and I bet the Lakers will try and make a play for him.
 
2014-06-24 11:34:52 AM  

jayhawk88: regindyn: I think Wade's going to be the sticking point.  He's due the biggest paychecks if he exercises his player-option, and has the most to lose because there's no way the Heat could pay him at the level of Bosh or Lebron.  He's due $44M through 2016 if he opts in both years, and if he doesn't he's not going to make it through the remainder of his career.   As fans, we talk about players taking less money so casually, but that's a ton of money to walk away from.

It is, but at the same time, Wade's already made something like $121m in contracts, not counting endorsements and such. Plus, he's the kind of guy that could slide into a Heat front-office job and make back any money he's giving up now. Or maybe become a TV guy. Wade's not dumb, if he opts in he probably knows LeBron will leave, and then he's essentially back on the '09-10 heat team, except he's not good enough to carry them to 45 wins any longer. If you're Wade, why would you choose the money and go through another season fighting for a 6-8 playoff spot, over a legit chance at another title run?

I think Riley will hold these guys together and get them to see the big picture. If Wade opts in he'll be seen greedy, and it will be seen as an acknowledgement that he knows he's done. If LeBron goes elsewhere, he's a mercenary. If Bosh leaves, it's either going to be to a terrible team where he's "The Man", or to a team where he's not The Man, so what would be the point?

The East is still pretty down, even if Melo ends up on the Bulls. The Pacers are probably not going to be significantly better, unless losing Lance is a major addition by subtraction.


Because money...I thought I made that clear.  :)

Gun to my head, I believe Lebron's with Miami next year, for all the reasons you stated.  But there are options for him to consider, and it wouldn't shock me if he finds his options very persuasive.
 
2014-06-24 11:43:40 AM  
LeBron and love sign in Chicago.
 
2014-06-24 11:44:14 AM  
I'd like to see him go to Brooklyn, Detroit, or Minnesota.
 
2014-06-24 11:45:28 AM  

MNguy: LeBron Melo and love sign in Chicago.

 
2014-06-24 11:47:39 AM  

spman: I don't want Lebron on my Chicago Bulls, Carmelo sure, but not Lebron. I could see him going to Houston or OKC maybe, and I bet the Lakers will try and make a play for him.


No way he's coming here to Houston. I know we're not on anyone's destination city. We just have to hope you happen to land here then try to make you like it enough to stay. However if Bosh leaves, Morey will be the first one at his door step.
 
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