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2014-06-24 02:12:55 PM  
They're too busy reading man pages to come in here and defend themselves subby.
 
2014-06-24 02:36:09 PM  
I'm browsing fark from Opera 12

but it's installed on windows 7
 
2014-06-24 02:38:21 PM  
Not Netscape Navigator. Sad.
 
2014-06-24 02:39:30 PM  
Lynx on an Amiga?
 
2014-06-24 02:41:53 PM  
Dillo?
 
2014-06-24 02:43:08 PM  
Mosaic on OS2/Warp?
 
2014-06-24 02:45:22 PM  
Netscape on 3.1?
 
2014-06-24 02:47:49 PM  
Should I try Opera? What are the advantages over Chrome and Firefox?    Thanks in advance.
 
2014-06-24 02:48:20 PM  
Isn't Opera using Chromium for it's rendering engine now?
 
2014-06-24 02:49:07 PM  

wiseolddude: Should I try Opera? What are the advantages over Chrome and Firefox?    Thanks in advance.


It's the last of the browsers you can feel like an elitist by claiming you use since no one uses it.
 
2014-06-24 02:50:50 PM  

wiseolddude: Should I try Opera? What are the advantages over Chrome and Firefox?    Thanks in advance.


Well, to begin with, Chrome and Firefox copied all of their good features from Opera.
 
2014-06-24 02:59:08 PM  

styckx: Isn't Opera using Chromium for it's rendering engine now?


Finally just clicked the link.. Answered my own question
 
2014-06-24 03:05:03 PM  

wiseolddude: Should I try Opera? What are the advantages over Chrome and Firefox?    Thanks in advance.


opera 12 has the ability to block bad website natively


notice i didn't mention opera 21
 
2014-06-24 03:05:25 PM  
it's taking forever to actually update.  well, it aint over til the FAT partition syncs.
 
2014-06-24 03:09:52 PM  

Mikey1969:  Well, to begin with, Chrome and Firefox copied all of their good features from Opera.


On the downside, it's now bloated with the same carp.


Opera used to pack everything in a tiny package. Superb Browser. Mail/IRC/Torrent/etc clients. Now look at it... almost 30MB...
 
2014-06-24 03:13:26 PM  

wiseolddude: Should I try Opera? What are the advantages over Chrome and Firefox?    Thanks in advance.


Using the "Turbo" mode lets you sail right past filters at work or the library.
 
2014-06-24 03:14:18 PM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: Mikey1969:  Well, to begin with, Chrome and Firefox copied all of their good features from Opera.

On the downside, it's now bloated with the same carp.


Opera used to pack everything in a tiny package. Superb Browser. Mail/IRC/Torrent/etc clients. Now look at it... almost 30MB...


Yeah, the bloat is why I left. It used to be fast and light. The session recovery and the real functionality of tabbed browsing were years ahead of everyone else.

I agree that the bloat sux. There was no need for it. Instead, they could have worked on the stuff that made it so good. I'm still willing to give it credit, though. I used it from '00 or so until about a year and a half ago...
 
2014-06-24 03:29:26 PM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: Mikey1969:  Well, to begin with, Chrome and Firefox copied all of their good features from Opera.

On the downside, it's now bloated with the same carp.


Opera used to pack everything in a tiny package. Superb Browser. Mail/IRC/Torrent/etc clients. Now look at it... almost 30MB...


all the browsers have gotten bloated
all windows  X64 versions


chrome full download is 38.7 MB
FF 28.5
Opera 22 26.4 MB
Opera 12 INTL version 12.5 MB
 
2014-06-24 03:40:11 PM  
notable nobodies
 
2014-06-24 03:40:49 PM  
Yes, i use Opera on my Ubuntu 14.4 machine i got from System76.
Integrated mouse gestures and RSS aggregator for me thanks.

/what do i win?
//is it more slashies?
 
2014-06-24 03:41:09 PM  
throwing away unfechable url: http://en..org/wiki/List_of_Linux_
 
2014-06-24 03:42:10 PM  
adopters. damn it
 
2014-06-24 03:42:47 PM  

Yuugian: Yes, i use Opera on my Ubuntu 14.4 machine i got from System76.
Integrated mouse gestures and RSS aggregator for me thanks.

/what do i win?
//is it more slashies?


You win one internets.
 
2014-06-24 03:43:57 PM  
Coming soon: The Operabook laptop!
 
2014-06-24 03:49:23 PM  

loonatic112358: nulluspixiusdemonica: Mikey1969:  Well, to begin with, Chrome and Firefox copied all of their good features from Opera.

On the downside, it's now bloated with the same carp.


Opera used to pack everything in a tiny package. Superb Browser. Mail/IRC/Torrent/etc clients. Now look at it... almost 30MB...

all the browsers have gotten bloated
all windows  X64 versions


chrome full download is 38.7 MB
FF 28.5
Opera 22 26.4 MB
Opera 12 INTL version 12.5 MB


To be fair, since computer displays are going Retina and 4k, a lot of the icons and other graphic elements need to be provided at higher resolution so they don't look like ass on the new displays. Now, that's not ALL the extra bulk, but it does account for some of it. Not to mention things like Flash that used to be plug ins are now coded right into the browser to make things more secure.

At the same time, those are still pretty small sizes when you consider how cheap hard drive space is now. When you can easily get a nice 120 GB SSD for less than $75, a few extra MB isn't much to fret over.
 
2014-06-24 03:51:56 PM  
Also, since they are using Chromium for the engine now, I really don't see the point of Opera. It was a great low-data browser for my old 2G Nokia Symbian phone, but there's really not much unique anymore to make it worth using over the big three.
 
2014-06-24 03:54:13 PM  

Mad_Radhu: To be fair, since computer displays are going Retina and 4k, a lot of the icons and other graphic elements need to be provided at higher resolution so they don't look like ass on the new displays. Now, that's not ALL the extra bulk, but it does account for some of it. Not to mention things like Flash that used to be plug ins are now coded right into the browser to make things more secure.At the same time, those are still pretty small sizes when you consider how cheap hard drive space is now. When you can easily get a nice 120 GB SSD for less than $75, a few extra MB isn't much to fret over.


IE 11 full download 56.2 MB


they should work on making smaller patches or something


The rendering has to be an aspect, plus compatibility with newer protocols plus tightening or closing security holes
 
2014-06-24 03:55:05 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Also, since they are using Chromium for the engine now, I really don't see the point of Opera. It was a great low-data browser for my old 2G Nokia Symbian phone, but there's really not much unique anymore to make it worth using over the big three.


if they ever ad back any of the functionality of 12, it'd be better. there's still a lot missing though
 
2014-06-24 04:55:37 PM  
I'm happy to be running Ubuntu on one of my notebooks. I use it a lot, and was really happy to find Pyroom, which is very similar to Darkroom, which I liked using on Windows machines. (Still not used to the constant system error pop-ups every time I start it or wake it.)

I don't see what the point of Opera is if they are basically using Chromium for everything. I'll stick to Chromium.
 
2014-06-24 05:09:11 PM  
I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. Windows is for everyday use, Ubuntu is for security-critical usage such as online banking, buying stuff online with credit cards, etc... the kind of stuff I don't trust a Windows install for.

...Firefox on both because of muh customization.
 
2014-06-24 05:14:09 PM  
Good One, Header Maker.............

except the fact that Linux is the fastest growing OS in the world.  except the U.S. where Gill Bates has 'em by their fearful balls.

and everyone knows so few use Linux based Android these days.....
 
2014-06-24 05:14:49 PM  

ZoSo_the_Crowe: I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. Windows is for everyday use, Ubuntu is for security-critical usage such as online banking, buying stuff online with credit cards, etc... the kind of stuff I don't trust a Windows install for.

...Firefox on both because of muh customization.



oh comon' you don't trust the open Window??
 
2014-06-24 05:16:03 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: They're too busy reading man pages to come in here and defend themselves subby.



we prefer taking the initiative and learning a little about the OS we use as opposed to just plugging the puter in and hitting the on button.  i.o.w. being baby fed and burped.
 
2014-06-24 05:17:52 PM  

Lanadapter: throwing away unfechable url: http://en..org/wiki/List_of_Linux_



i'll help you out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters
 
2014-06-24 05:53:31 PM  
I'm posting from a Linux system, biatch.

/but using Firefox
 
2014-06-24 05:55:18 PM  
Konqueror on FreeBSD, ftw!

/haha not really
//Chrome on 12.04
 
2014-06-24 06:13:53 PM  

Linux_Yes: InterruptingQuirk: They're too busy reading man pages to come in here and defend themselves subby.


we prefer taking the initiative and learning a little about the OS we use as opposed to just plugging the puter in and hitting the on button.  i.o.w. being baby fed and burped.


That was fun when I was young and bored in the 90s. I got other stuff to do now and just need my puter to work every time, everywhere, for everything.
 
2014-06-24 06:33:16 PM  
I used Opera when you still had to pay for it. I used the ad supported version. The ads never really bothered me. Switched to Chrome when I could easily sync my browsers between multiple OSes and devices.
 
2014-06-24 06:40:51 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Linux_Yes: InterruptingQuirk: They're too busy reading man pages to come in here and defend themselves subby.


we prefer taking the initiative and learning a little about the OS we use as opposed to just plugging the puter in and hitting the on button.  i.o.w. being baby fed and burped.

That was fun when I was young and bored in the 90s. I got other stuff to do now and just need my puter to work every time, everywhere, for everything.


Tw4eking and the inner workings of your PC?

momandwife.com

It's just like how 99% of people could care less how their car works and what performance tuning they can do it get it to go faster. They just want to get in and drive to the work, the kid's soccer practice or the store. All they care about is if it works, they don't have time to be a shade tree mechanic or a custom tuner.

PCs are in the same place today. They are an appliance, not a hobby.
 
2014-06-24 06:43:44 PM  

wiseolddude: Should I try Opera? What are the advantages over Chrome and Firefox?    Thanks in advance.


You get to tell people that you use Opera.
 
2014-06-24 06:52:26 PM  
Love Opera.

Been using it for years.


One advantage...security, most don't write for it.
Not saying one can't hack by intent...but most viruses and such lying out there in pages don't work with it.


Redirects don't work well on it either, so either it doesn't happen, or I can close the page quick.


Plus it's quick...at least to me.
Even with the newer structure, seems less glutted than the other browsers.


If you don't like it, don't use it.
But at least try it out, it's free.
I always all of the browsers available, you never know what will & won't work with whatever page/function.
 
2014-06-24 06:58:26 PM  

rogue49: Love Opera.

Been using it for years.


One advantage...security, most don't write for it.
Not saying one can't hack by intent...but most viruses and such lying out there in pages don't work with it.


Redirects don't work well on it either, so either it doesn't happen, or I can close the page quick.


Plus it's quick...at least to me.
Even with the newer structure, seems less glutted than the other browsers.


If you don't like it, don't use it.
But at least try it out, it's free.
I always all of the browsers available, you never know what will & won't work with whatever page/function.


Since they switched to Webkit, I'm not sure how much of this is true. The new version should have the same vulnerabilities that Chromium has, only you have to wait for Opera to implement patches that Chromium has already pushed out. There shouldn't be a BIG delay, but for zero day bugs it could briefly leave you vulnerable.
 
2014-06-24 07:41:20 PM  

Linux_Yes: except the fact that Linux is the fastest growing OS in the world.


I'm the submitter.

It's an ironic headline, or something :D

// Linux user ... currently rolling around in a fresh (1 week old) Xubuntu 14.04 install.

// I hated Unity so kept Ubuntu 10.04 for far too long, have spent the last few months testing different flavors until I found something close to what I liked.
 
2014-06-24 07:57:44 PM  

zobear: Konqueror on FreeBSD, ftw!


Konqueror doesn't support TLS 1.0.  Given that TLS 1.2 support is becoming fairly common, that's a big mark against Konqueror.
 
2014-06-24 07:59:55 PM  
22.0.1471.70 - Opera is up to date.
 
2014-06-24 08:24:29 PM  
What I like about Opera is it does things smoothly, things other browsers require extensions to do, then do them in a glitchy way.  For instance rocker mouse gestures and the speed dial page.  Neither Chrome nor Firefox do those right in my opinion.  That means you need to look for an extension, which turns out to be too elaborate for the simple task I want it to perform or it's too quirky or half baked to perform as well as I'd like.
 
2014-06-24 08:50:52 PM  

lordargent: I hated Unity


Everybody hates Unity.  It's a stinking turd that needs to be destroyed.  I'm running Ubunto 12.04, but installed both kde and gnome.

Unity was created by people with zero background in user interfaces who think they know better than the people who wrote the book on user interfaces.
 
2014-06-24 09:10:39 PM  

OgreMagi: lordargent: I hated Unity

Everybody hates Unity.  It's a stinking turd that needs to be destroyed.  I'm running Ubunto 12.04, but installed both kde and gnome.

Unity was created by people with zero background in user interfaces who think they know better than the people who wrote the book on user interfaces.


I wasn't aware the Metro GUI team made Unity as well.  Makes sense; they both suck donkey balls.

/Dual Boots  Debian Testing with XFCE& Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell
//Might switch to Arch or Funtoo in the near future
///How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
 
2014-06-25 06:58:38 AM  

wiseolddude: Should I try Opera? What are the advantages over Chrome and Firefox?    Thanks in advance.


Opera has served me well for years. I like it. Maybe you will as well. If not, that's fine. I haven't been arsed with pointless arguments over whether my tech product of choice is better than someone else's since it was between the Commodore 64 and the ZX Spectrum. Both of which are lovely, by the way.


(But Commodore wins because of that sweet sweet SID chip.)
 
2014-06-25 10:14:38 AM  

OgreMagi: lordargent: I hated Unity

Everybody hates Unity.  It's a stinking turd that needs to be destroyed.  I'm running Ubunto 12.04, but installed both kde and gnome.

Unity was created by people with zero background in user interfaces who think they know better than the people who wrote the book on user interfaces.


While I agree with the Unity is a giant turd idea, who wrote Gnome 3? It feels like all of the unemployed UI designers fresh out of UIX got together and said, "Let's take over Gnome and oh yeah, we'll make mortal enemies of anyone who ever used Gnome 2."

Still Gnome 3 is better than Unity, but also turdy.

/Gnome 3 is my daily driver
//FireFox ftw!
///You should use Firefox because it's the only browser run by a nonprofit, which has no financial incentive to collect data on your browsing habits. Discuss.
 
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