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(BBC)   'The Polish-American alliance is not worth anything...We will get a conflict with both Russians and Germans, and we're going to think that everything is great, because we gave the Americans a blowjob. Suckers. Total suckers.'   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 124
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2014-06-23 12:30:26 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, as Poland is a NATO member, we will meet our treaty obligations if necessary.

Germany? Geez, this guy is reliving 1939. Of course I can appreciate how awful that was for Poland. But even France made up with Germany.
 
2014-06-23 02:23:28 PM
We're not forgetting Poland.
 
2014-06-23 02:32:15 PM
So what exactly is this guy's beef? That we backed off the missile shield program? That we haven't invaded Russia over Ukraine? Help me out here.

AirForceVet: Germany? Geez, this guy is reliving 1939. Of course I can appreciate how awful that was for Poland. But even France made up with Germany.


Think you'e misreading his sentiment a bit.. I think he is saying that Poland's relationship with the US is preventing better relationships with Germany and Russia.
 
2014-06-23 03:10:54 PM
Is there any possibility that this ties back to Ukraine?
 
2014-06-23 03:12:28 PM

AirForceVet: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, as Poland is a NATO member, we will meet our treaty obligations if necessary.

Germany? Geez, this guy is reliving 1939. Of course I can appreciate how awful that was for Poland. But even France made up with Germany.


Just hope Obama isn't President if Poland needs to call in the favor
 
2014-06-23 03:14:54 PM
How would their relationship with the USA prevent a better relationship with Germany?

And Russia?  They want a better relationship with Russia?  The nation which may or may not have assassinated most of the top Polish leadership just a few years back in a convenient plane crash?
 
2014-06-23 03:17:18 PM

AirForceVet: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, as Poland is a NATO member, we will meet our treaty obligations if necessary.

Germany? Geez, this guy is reliving 1939. Of course I can appreciate how awful that was for Poland. But even France made up with Germany.


This.

Sikorski thinks that Russia will leave Poland alone if Poland refuses to ally with the US? He sounds stressed. Maybe a vacation in the Ukraine would calm him down.
 
2014-06-23 03:19:52 PM
Mildly confused by this guy's attitude until I did a little bit of background research...

From 2002 to 2005 he was a resident fellow of the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C., and executive director of the New Atlantic Initiative. He was editor of the analytical publication European Outlook, and organised international conferences. He is a member of the Board of Advisors of the American Committees on Foreign Relations.

I'm sure you all remember the AEI...

Some AEI scholars are considered to be some of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy.

More than twenty AEI scholars and fellows served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions.

Among the prominent former government officials now affiliated with AEI are former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton, now an AEI senior fellow; former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities Lynne Cheney, a longtime AEI senior fellow; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, now an AEI senior fellow; former member of the Dutch parliament Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an AEI visiting fellow; and former deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz, now an AEI visiting scholar.

Other prominent individuals affiliated with AEI include Kevin Hassett, Frederick W. Kagan, Leon Kass, Charles Murray, Michael Novak, Norman J. Ornstein, Richard Perle, Radek Sikorski, Christina Hoff Sommers, Peter J. Wallison, and Mark Perry.
 
2014-06-23 03:23:46 PM

Infernalist: Mildly confused by this guy's attitude until I did a little bit of background research...

From 2002 to 2005 he was a resident fellow of the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C., and executive director of the New Atlantic Initiative. He was editor of the analytical publication European Outlook, and organised international conferences. He is a member of the Board of Advisors of the American Committees on Foreign Relations.

I'm sure you all remember the AEI...

Some AEI scholars are considered to be some of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy.

More than twenty AEI scholars and fellows served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions.

Among the prominent former government officials now affiliated with AEI are former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton, now an AEI senior fellow; former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities Lynne Cheney, a longtime AEI senior fellow; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, now an AEI senior fellow; former member of the Dutch parliament Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an AEI visiting fellow; and former deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz, now an AEI visiting scholar.

Other prominent individuals affiliated with AEI include Kevin Hassett, Frederick W. Kagan, Leon Kass, Charles Murray, Michael Novak, Norman J. Ornstein, Richard Perle, Radek Sikorski, Christina Hoff Sommers, Peter J. Wallison, and Mark Perry.


It's too bad John Yoo isn't white. He would have made a fine AEI bagman.
 
2014-06-23 03:24:33 PM
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-06-23 03:29:02 PM

Sandvich is loose cannon: [i2.kym-cdn.com image 489x604]


Huh?
 
2014-06-23 03:29:27 PM
Is it about as useful as a screen door on a submarine? Are they going at night?
 
2014-06-23 03:30:31 PM

AirForceVet: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, as Poland is a NATO member, we will meet our treaty obligations if necessary.

Germany? Geez, this guy is reliving 1939. Of course I can appreciate how awful that was for Poland. But even France made up with Germany.


The Austrians still haven't forgiven the Turks for laying siege to Vienna in 1529. Europeans know how to hold a grudge.
 
2014-06-23 03:31:31 PM
They will always have Polish women, and that is a feather in their cap for realz.
 
2014-06-23 03:32:02 PM
I don't recall getting my Polish blowjob. I'll take Agnieszka Radwańska, please.
 
2014-06-23 03:32:58 PM

OrangeFree: AirForceVet: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, as Poland is a NATO member, we will meet our treaty obligations if necessary.

Germany? Geez, this guy is reliving 1939. Of course I can appreciate how awful that was for Poland. But even France made up with Germany.

The Austrians still haven't forgiven the Turks for laying siege to Vienna in 1529. Europeans know how to hold a grudge.


Didn't the whole Serbia thing in the 90's start from a speech about some 600 year old battle?
 
2014-06-23 03:36:23 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: How would their relationship with the USA prevent a better relationship with Germany?


This. I can understand if a Polish politician is nervous of USA's commitment to protect them from Russia, given the Ukraine situation (I'm not so sure such a position is reasonable, but I can see how it'd be part of the debate in Polish politics), but what's the deal with Germany? How are US and German interests at odds, such that Poland might feel the need to choose sides? This is where we need a deeper background in the politics of the region to make any sense of this.
 
2014-06-23 03:44:48 PM

OrangeFree: AirForceVet: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, as Poland is a NATO member, we will meet our treaty obligations if necessary.

Germany? Geez, this guy is reliving 1939. Of course I can appreciate how awful that was for Poland. But even France made up with Germany.

The Austrians still haven't forgiven the Turks for laying siege to Vienna in 1529. Europeans know how to hold a grudge.


I had a Polish co-worker that was uneasy working with me on a project after I told her (because she asked) that I was half German.  As in half of my great-great-great grandparents where born in Germany in the early 1800's.  She said, "Poles and Germans don't really get along." And she wasn't even really Polish, her parents emigrated from Poland when they were children.  I thought she was kidding at first.  She was a smart, nice girl in all other areas, just really biased about this one thing.

/csb
 
2014-06-23 03:47:48 PM

Nemo's Brother: AirForceVet: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, as Poland is a NATO member, we will meet our treaty obligations if necessary.

Germany? Geez, this guy is reliving 1939. Of course I can appreciate how awful that was for Poland. But even France made up with Germany.

Just hope Obama isn't President if Poland needs to call in the favor


You sound like you don't know how NATO works, nor foreign policy.
 
2014-06-23 03:49:28 PM
But Poland's foreign ministry has said the remarks have been taken out of context.

I wonder what context would put calling ties with America "worthless" in a better light?

/Honey, when I called you a bloated, lazy piece of couch trash, I also said that at least your stench has improved.
 
2014-06-23 03:50:47 PM

SovietCanuckistan: They will always have Polish women, and that is a feather in their cap for realz.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Oh yes
 
2014-06-23 03:57:22 PM

Mithiwithi: How are US and German interests at odds


Well, we ARE gonna play against them in the World Cup on Thursday, so I guess there's that.
 
2014-06-23 03:58:36 PM

draypresct: Sandvich is loose cannon: [i2.kym-cdn.com image 489x604]

Huh?


A USA, card crusher, anime style comic. Read from right to left, top to down. tl;dr:  fark poland.
 
2014-06-23 03:59:05 PM
Look, any country can start a war.... But if you want to start a really Great War, you have to do it in Easter Europe.  I, for one, am proud of the place my families nation of origin holds in the continuing struggle for world domination.
 
2014-06-23 03:59:09 PM
The US is the only reason that Poland is an independent country today. Otherwise they'd be carved up into subregions of their neighbors. Though I suspect that is exactly what the people paying him to say this want.
 
2014-06-23 03:59:49 PM
Thirty years of trying to curb Pollack (Pollock? Pollok? idk) jokes and this is the thanks we get?
 
2014-06-23 04:00:06 PM
family's.... GDISM
 
2014-06-23 04:01:06 PM

draypresct: Sandvich is loose cannon: [i2.kym-cdn.com image 489x604]

Huh?


"Russia is your true friend, in Amerinazika they beat up afro-americans"
 
2014-06-23 04:03:18 PM

justanothersumguy: Easter Europe


This amuses me.
 
2014-06-23 04:03:31 PM
i.imgur.com
"How do you sing the Polish National Anthem?" - Ya' don't sing it, ya' fart it."
 
2014-06-23 04:04:18 PM
Poland....


Very good Eurovision Song Contest entry BTW

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-23 04:05:34 PM
Bummer.  Lost the animation
 
2014-06-23 04:11:13 PM

justanothersumguy: Look, any country can start a war.... But if you want to start a really Great War, you have to do it in Easter Europe.  I, for one, am proud of the place my families nation of origin holds in the continuing struggle for world domination.


Oh man... I don't believe it....

/trolling Grammar Nazi Fail
//my own fault.
 
2014-06-23 04:17:56 PM
From other news sites
..
Business Insider Australia
Polish Foreign Minister Says Alliance With US Is 'Complete Bull----' In Lewd Leaked Comments 24 hrs ago


Dirty lies
 
2014-06-23 04:22:23 PM

child_god: draypresct: Sandvich is loose cannon: [i2.kym-cdn.com image 489x604]

Huh?

A USA, card crusher, anime style comic. Read from right to left, top to down. tl;dr:  fark poland.


Every post-1989 Polish government has been a strong supporter of continued American military and economic presence in Europe, and Poland is one of the most staunch allies of the United States.

We gave Poland over $400 million in humanitarian assistance in 2011.

So I say again: huh? Why would someone write a comic about the US withholding money from Poland? Is someone complaining we're not giving them enough?
 
2014-06-23 04:30:41 PM

Uzzah: I don't recall getting my Polish blowjob. I'll take Agnieszka Radwańska, please.


Dibs on Joanna Pacuła
 
2014-06-23 04:30:52 PM

Totally Sharky Complete: [i.imgur.com image 640x516]
"How do you sing the Polish National Anthem?" - Ya' don't sing it, ya' fart it."


The Polish National Anthem

Ok, sounds exactly like ever Soviet Anthem ever sung by the Red Army Choir, but...

/fark you.
 
2014-06-23 04:33:12 PM
The Polish-American alliance is not worth anything

Perhaps, but the Polish-American string band....
 
2014-06-23 04:35:22 PM
Maybe this one

static.fjcdn.com

/Apparently not.   Are there new rules for animated GIFs on Fark?

// http://i.imgur.com/A5stEzt.gif
 
2014-06-23 04:35:32 PM

monoski: SovietCanuckistan: They will always have Polish women, and that is a feather in their cap for realz.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 199x254]

Oh yes


Our children's nanny is Polish ... she does not look like this
 
2014-06-23 04:38:40 PM

draypresct: child_god: draypresct: Sandvich is loose cannon: [i2.kym-cdn.com image 489x604]

Huh?

A USA, card crusher, anime style comic. Read from right to left, top to down. tl;dr:  fark poland.

Every post-1989 Polish government has been a strong supporter of continued American military and economic presence in Europe, and Poland is one of the most staunch allies of the United States.

We gave Poland over $400 million in humanitarian assistance in 2011.

So I say again: huh? Why would someone write a comic about the US withholding money from Poland? Is someone complaining we're not giving them enough?


It seems to me like what you'd get if the American Enterprise Institute tried to make a Dolan comic.
 
2014-06-23 04:41:10 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: Maybe this one

[static.fjcdn.com image 347x331]

/Apparently not.   Are there new rules for animated GIFs on Fark?

// http://i.imgur.com/A5stEzt.gif


that's a little bit of alright
 
2014-06-23 04:41:46 PM

anfrind: draypresct: child_god: draypresct: Sandvich is loose cannon: [i2.kym-cdn.com image 489x604]

Huh?

A USA, card crusher, anime style comic. Read from right to left, top to down. tl;dr:  fark poland.

Every post-1989 Polish government has been a strong supporter of continued American military and economic presence in Europe, and Poland is one of the most staunch allies of the United States.

We gave Poland over $400 million in humanitarian assistance in 2011.

So I say again: huh? Why would someone write a comic about the US withholding money from Poland? Is someone complaining we're not giving them enough?

It seems to me like what you'd get if the American Enterprise Institute tried to make a Dolan comic.


Jesus Christ it's a stupid 4chan/reddit countryball comic. It's not some conservative conspiracy.
 
2014-06-23 04:43:57 PM
wiki.ytmnd.com
 
2014-06-23 04:45:55 PM
You would think Farker's would express greater sympathy for a country that gave them the "Beer Barrel Polka"....

It's quite a favorite with all my friends back in my hometown Milwaukee

And man, did he have friends....
 
2014-06-23 04:46:45 PM
"[We are] suckers, total suckers. The problem in Poland is that we have shallow pride and low self-esteem,'' Mr Sikorski was quoted as saying.

Polish "tea bagger"?
 
2014-06-23 04:55:53 PM
i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-06-23 04:57:56 PM
Smart guy. They should probably make him Prime Minister - if they ever stop sucking on Florida long enough to get it done.
 
2014-06-23 05:16:38 PM
He's basically right. The US government has a very good understanding of what it considers to be in its "national interest", if your interests happen to align with their interests, then they'll help you. But you shouldn't base your national security on the belief that you can simply call in a favour at some undefined point in the future. If the wonks at the State department and the Pentagon don't think it's a good idea, or the budget is a bit tight, or there's an election coming up and the electorate is going through one of its periodic fits of isolationism, then there's a good change you'll get the old "We think it's time for [insert country here] to stand on their own two feet and solve their own problems". There are some people in Poland *cough*Kaczynski*cough* who thinks it's good idea to annoy both the Germans AND the Russians because, hey, Uncle Sam has our back, right?

/But, what about that blowjob we gave you?
//Sure, but what have you done for us lately?
 
2014-06-23 05:23:35 PM

Bad_Seed: He's basically right. The US government has a very good understanding of what it considers to be in its "national interest", if your interests happen to align with their interests, then they'll help you. But you shouldn't base your national security on the belief that you can simply call in a favour at some undefined point in the future. If the wonks at the State department and the Pentagon don't think it's a good idea, or the budget is a bit tight, or there's an election coming up and the electorate is going through one of its periodic fits of isolationism, then there's a good change you'll get the old "We think it's time for [insert country here] to stand on their own two feet and solve their own problems". There are some people in Poland *cough*Kaczynski*cough* who thinks it's good idea to annoy both the Germans AND the Russians because, hey, Uncle Sam has our back, right?

/But, what about that blowjob we gave you?
//Sure, but what have you done for us lately?


It seems to me you have forgotten how the British got involved in WWII....
 
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