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(The Raw Story)   "Every time they do chemtrailing there is some dramatic change in the weather. I noticed them this weekend and then it got very windy. I'm not a scientist and I don't know what's in the chemtrails but I think we have a right to know"   (rawstory.com) divider line 178
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2014-06-23 10:05:54 AM  
It's complicated, and you're going to have to trust us on this one. Just let us know if you see anyone with pure white eyes.
 
2014-06-23 10:11:21 AM  
Sounds like this wingnut needs to spend a little less time wondering what's being sprayed in the air and a little more time wondering about all the mind control drugs that are being put into the water supply.
 
2014-06-23 10:13:05 AM  
Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.
 
2014-06-23 10:32:01 AM  
State Sen. Kelli Ward called the public meeting, to be held at the Board of Supervisors Auditorium in Kingman, Arizona, saying she had heard from "a lot" of constituents who feel that their concerns over the possible effects of chemtrails on the weather and on their blood chemistry are not being taken seriously.

"I have gotten a lot of communications from people who are concerned and there has been a sense that no one has been doing anything for them to address those concerns," Ward said. "I can't do field tests on the water, but I can connect them to the people who do."


State Sen Kelli Ward is a D.O., proving not all doctors are all that smart.  Also, from her bio:

She worked as an environmental chemist in Florida for a year and credits her co-workers with strengthening her Republican/Conservative values by introducing her to talk radio.

Alex Jones?  Coast to Coast A.M.?
 
2014-06-23 10:48:20 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.


"a few"???
More than 50% of the fuel consumed by a jet engine is exhausted unburned.
There is a lot of jet fuel in that "vapor".
 
2014-06-23 10:56:07 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.


and fluoride, don't forget the fluoride.
 
2014-06-23 11:02:29 AM  

snocone: Gecko Gingrich: Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.

"a few"???
More than 50% of the fuel consumed by a jet engine is exhausted unburned.
There is a lot of jet fuel in that "vapor".


Or, you know 99+%. It's one of the two.

/Hey look, a citation.
//The important part is page 3, line 35 through page 4, line 6.
 
2014-06-23 11:03:11 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Or, you know 99+% is burned.

 
2014-06-23 11:25:37 AM  
Simple, tell them to go out in the backyard with a spray bottle if vinegar. That'll clear the chemtrails right out if the air.
 
2014-06-23 11:40:06 AM  

propasaurus: Simple, tell them to go out in the backyard with a spray bottle if vinegar. That'll clear the chemtrails right out if the air.


I have a niece (we share very few genes) that I need to tell this to.
 
2014-06-23 11:43:50 AM  
Its okay.

They're putting stuff in the vaccines that will protect you from the chemtrails.
 
2014-06-23 11:46:57 AM  
At the risk of sounding like an insane person, couldn't additional particulate matter from those hydrocarbons, whatever's left over after combustion plus whatever somehow wasn't burned, do something? Isn't that how cloud seeding works?
 
2014-06-23 11:49:56 AM  

snocone: Gecko Gingrich: Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.

"a few"???
More than 50% of the fuel consumed by a jet engine is exhausted unburned.
There is a lot of jet fuel in that "vapor".


Good god, you farking moron...

"The combustion efficiency of most aircraft gas turbine engines at sea level takeoff conditions is almost 100%. It decreases nonlinear to 98% at altitude cruise conditions."

Took me two seconds with google to study it out.
 
2014-06-23 11:52:13 AM  

moike: snocone: Gecko Gingrich: Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.

"a few"???
More than 50% of the fuel consumed by a jet engine is exhausted unburned.
There is a lot of jet fuel in that "vapor".

Good god, you farking moron...

"The combustion efficiency of most aircraft gas turbine engines at sea level takeoff conditions is almost 100%. It decreases nonlinear to 98% at altitude cruise conditions."

Took me two seconds with google to study it out.


Maybe he was referring to United jet engines...
 
2014-06-23 11:53:30 AM  
Of all the kooky theories bouncing around I find this to be one of the kookiest.

First off, it's basically high school chemistry: Oxygen + hydrocarbons => rxn => H20 + CO2 + CO + hydrocarbons

Also, apparently in WWII the Allies and Axis had their own chemtrail programs. Just look at the old pictures. Obviously there was enough slack in the war effort on both sides to afford making and dispensing these chemicals. Certainly there would be no problem sacrificing fuel or munitions so that they could carry the chemtrail spookystuff.
 
2014-06-23 11:53:32 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.


And carbon dioxide too....
 
2014-06-23 11:53:49 AM  

propasaurus: Simple, tell them to go out in the backyard with a spray bottle if vinegar. That'll clear the chemtrails right out if the air.


In Minnesota we use Windex.
 
2014-06-23 11:55:49 AM  
I knew this sounded familiar:   "I'm not a scientist and I don't know what's in the chemtrails GMO food, but I think we have a right to know"
 
2014-06-23 11:55:53 AM  

Nurglitch: At the risk of sounding like an insane person, couldn't additional particulate matter from those hydrocarbons, whatever's left over after combustion plus whatever somehow wasn't burned, do something? Isn't that how cloud seeding works?


It might do "something", but there's no real evidence. One could invent concerns all day long about unknown factors.

Example: Eating peaches makes it more likely you'll die skiing.

Let me imagine a causal connection for you:

Peaches have some sort of special property that the memory of eating one causes distracting thoughts at high speeds, particularly on skis.

Sure, there's no evidence, but you could find some idiot who might be convinced that it's true.
 
2014-06-23 11:56:33 AM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-06-23 11:57:09 AM  
Every time I sleep I get hungry for pancakes.
 
2014-06-23 11:57:23 AM  

snocone: propasaurus: Simple, tell them to go out in the backyard with a spray bottle if vinegar. That'll clear the chemtrails right out if the air.

In Minnesota we use Windex.


And don't even think about getting the cheap knock-off brand. That stuff actually enhances the chemtrails. It has to be the real deal to work, though it can get expensive if the fedgov has kicked off a new campaign.
 
2014-06-23 11:59:43 AM  
Oh For ... CHEMTRAILS DO NOT MAKE SENSE AS A DRUG DELIVERY SYSTEM.  If the russians can't even gas a theater with appropriate dosages, why on earth do people think you can gas or dose a large metropolitan area with a huge landmass effectively?

I'm all for a good conspiracy theory, but here's why chemtrails just dont fit the bill for dosing citizens

1. Distribution. A chemtrail, like anything sprayed in a tiny line compared to the surface area around it, would inevitably result in an obvious swath of town being incredibly complacent. It makes infinitely more sense to tamper with the water supply if you're a government determined to get a mind-altering chemical into its citizens
2. Dosage. A chemtrail, like any drug delivered by gas, would inevitably overdose the people under the center, and vastly underdose the people near the edges. And that's ignoring that wind would make predicting the dosage distribution almost meaningless.
3. Optical Effects. With a few exceptions, a lot of chemicals would change the reflective index and optical qualities of the contrails they're being introduced to
4. Most importantly, Cost. If you're spending millions on a clandestine program to buy these chemicals, load them up at an airport, and spend fuel flying it over the area - You're going to think twice in terms of the ROI. Why spray an urban area when you know 90% of that chemical or more is just going to go to waste having dispersed or will have landed on some random farmland nearby?
 
2014-06-23 11:59:57 AM  

snocone: Gecko Gingrich: Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.

"a few"???
More than 50% of the fuel consumed by a jet engine is exhausted unburned.
There is a lot of jet fuel in that "vapor".


Ummm...
 
2014-06-23 12:05:10 PM  

snocone: propasaurus: Simple, tell them to go out in the backyard with a spray bottle if vinegar. That'll clear the chemtrails right out if the air.

In Minnesota we use Windex.


I didn't realize there were that many Greeks there.
 
2014-06-23 12:05:21 PM  
www.fws.gov
 
2014-06-23 12:06:04 PM  

AMonkey'sUncle: snocone: Gecko Gingrich: Water and maybe a few unburnt hydrocarbons. There, glad to help.

"a few"???
More than 50% of the fuel consumed by a jet engine is exhausted unburned.
There is a lot of jet fuel in that "vapor".

Ummm...


don't think too hard on it
 
2014-06-23 12:08:17 PM  
Vapor trails do affect the weather, but it's not the result of any malicious planning.

/the planning is all well intentioned.
 
2014-06-23 12:08:34 PM  

Somaticasual: Oh For ... CHEMTRAILS DO NOT MAKE SENSE AS A DRUG DELIVERY SYSTEM.  If the russians can't even gas a theater with appropriate dosages, why on earth do people think you can gas or dose a large metropolitan area with a huge landmass effectively?

I'm all for a good conspiracy theory, but here's why chemtrails just dont fit the bill for dosing citizens

1. Distribution. A chemtrail, like anything sprayed in a tiny line compared to the surface area around it, would inevitably result in an obvious swath of town being incredibly complacent. It makes infinitely more sense to tamper with the water supply if you're a government determined to get a mind-altering chemical into its citizens
2. Dosage. A chemtrail, like any drug delivered by gas, would inevitably overdose the people under the center, and vastly underdose the people near the edges. And that's ignoring that wind would make predicting the dosage distribution almost meaningless.
3. Optical Effects. With a few exceptions, a lot of chemicals would change the reflective index and optical qualities of the contrails they're being introduced to
4. Most importantly, Cost. If you're spending millions on a clandestine program to buy these chemicals, load them up at an airport, and spend fuel flying it over the area - You're going to think twice in terms of the ROI. Why spray an urban area when you know 90% of that chemical or more is just going to go to waste having dispersed or will have landed on some random farmland nearby?


What you're missing is that there are a lot more water systems than big airports. You use airplanes to ensure distribution to those that are otherwise off the grid. Concerning dosage, have you seen how many airplanes fly not just every day, but several times per day? This makes it easy to give frequent small doses. Everyone goes outside at some point. Airplanes are the only way to ensure 100% coverage.
 
2014-06-23 12:11:06 PM  
Every time I notice a chemtrail, within 2-12 hours, the sky goes black.
 
2014-06-23 12:12:40 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Gecko Gingrich: Or, you know 99+% is burned.


Yeah. But burned into what? When I burn the brush in my backyard 98% (or whatever) it certainly isn't breathable. And the fumes that come out of my truck certainly are breathable (but they certainly leave the neighborhood ladies open to suggestions). Who know WHAT jet fuel winds up turning into after it is burned. Hell, so-called clean burning nuclear fuel leaves waste floating around that you don't want to deal with. And charcoal lighter stuff doesn't taste that great either, or model glue. I can't imagine that the regulations on jet fuel suddenly make it magically drinkable.
 
2014-06-23 12:13:58 PM  

yakmans_dad: Every time I sleep I get hungry for pancakes.


Me too, except it's chocolate. I raged one night because some ate my nighttime chocolate stash.

Weird.
 
2014-06-23 12:15:09 PM  
This is ridiculous. As if human activity could possibly impact the weather.
 
2014-06-23 12:16:06 PM  

Tobin_Lam: Airplanes are the only way to ensure 100% coverage.


Yeah but for the same reason as #2 and #4, you wouldn't bother trying to achieve 100% coverage. It'd definitely be easier to send an easily ignorable "repairman" to the pump stations for the water supply. Granted, it does seem like a lot of the conspiracy folks come from very bored farming communities...
 
2014-06-23 12:16:59 PM  
Chemtrails may be my favorite nutbag conspiracy theory now that The Lizard People have finally left this planet to suppress the Greater Motard Revolt of Pan-Zaranos IV
 
2014-06-23 12:17:09 PM  
" I'm not a scientist and I don't know what's in the chemtrails but I think we have a right to know"

Yes, sugar tits. You do have a right. The problem is you don't have the intelligence.
 
2014-06-23 12:18:09 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: State Sen. Kelli Ward called the public meeting, to be held at the Board of Supervisors Auditorium in Kingman, Arizona, saying she had heard from "a lot" of constituents who feel that their concerns over the possible effects of chemtrails on the weather and on their blood chemistry are not being taken seriously.

"I have gotten a lot of communications from people who are concerned and there has been a sense that no one has been doing anything for them to address those concerns," Ward said. "I can't do field tests on the water, but I can connect them to the people who do."


Well, as someone's state representative, there is sort of an onus to give some sort of responsive reply to a constituent's letter.   Passing the buck to a testing lab seems slight more polite than outright calling them stupid, even if they are.  Less likely to lose a voter too.
 
2014-06-23 12:19:09 PM  

Nurglitch: At the risk of sounding like an insane person, couldn't additional particulate matter from those hydrocarbons, whatever's left over after combustion plus whatever somehow wasn't burned, do something? Isn't that how cloud seeding works?


No, that's not how it works. Cloud seeding is when the fedgov flies around spraying soy bean seeds and sunflower seeds into the air. The soy bean seeds are used to appease the "natural" folks because it is easy on the environment, the sunflower seeds are what do most of the work.
 
2014-06-23 12:20:58 PM  

Tobin_Lam: the sunflower seeds are what do most of the work.


I thought sunflower seeding made it sunny.
 
2014-06-23 12:21:30 PM  

Somaticasual: Oh For ... CHEMTRAILS DO NOT MAKE SENSE AS A DRUG DELIVERY SYSTEM. If the russians can't even gas a theater with appropriate dosages, why on earth do people think you can gas or dose a large metropolitan area with a huge landmass effectively?


What exactly is it that the chemtrails are supposed to be doing to us? Has anyone ever said? It's not even a conspiracy theory--it's more like an idea in search of a conspiracy theory.
 
2014-06-23 12:22:27 PM  

PainInTheASP: Sounds like this wingnut needs to spend a little less time wondering what's being sprayed in the air and a little more time wondering about all the mind control drugs that are being put into the water supply.


No, no, it's the stuff they spray on food. People got wise. When you see that the chicken is 15% weight by solution, you know.
 
2014-06-23 12:24:05 PM  

cryinoutloud: What exactly is it that the chemtrails are supposed to be doing to us? Has anyone ever said?


giving us the ghey, i think. Or something.
 
2014-06-23 12:24:21 PM  

GoldSpider: I knew this sounded familiar:   "I'm not a scientist and I don't know what's in the chemtrails GMO food, but I think we have a right to know"


I wish politicians would apply that logic more often.

"I am not an electrician, but let me at that sub-station."
 
2014-06-23 12:24:34 PM  

propasaurus: Simple, tell them to go out in the backyard with a spray bottle if vinegar. That'll clear the chemtrails right out if the air.


Just don't get the nutbag's face on camera. They really hate that.
 
2014-06-23 12:25:25 PM  
img.fark.net

That is exactly why he drinks pure-grain alcohol to preserve his precious bodily fluids.
 
2014-06-23 12:25:37 PM  

cryinoutloud: Somaticasual: Oh For ... CHEMTRAILS DO NOT MAKE SENSE AS A DRUG DELIVERY SYSTEM. If the russians can't even gas a theater with appropriate dosages, why on earth do people think you can gas or dose a large metropolitan area with a huge landmass effectively?

What exactly is it that the chemtrails are supposed to be doing to us? Has anyone ever said? It's not even a conspiracy theory--it's more like an idea in search of a conspiracy theory.


Someone's asking too many questions.  An extra dose of chemtrail for you.
 
2014-06-23 12:25:58 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Or, you know 99+%. It's one of the two.

/Hey look, a citation.
//The important part is page 3, line 35 through page 4, line 6.


thatslikeyouropinionman.jpg
 
2014-06-23 12:26:33 PM  

mr lawson: " I'm not a scientist and I don't know what's in the chemtrails but I think we have a right to know"
Yes, sugar tits. You do have a right. The problem is you don't have the intelligence.


I am not a smart man. But I do know what chemtrails are. They are like a box of chocolates.

cdn3.whatculture.com
 
2014-06-23 12:26:40 PM  

mr lawson: Tobin_Lam: the sunflower seeds are what do most of the work.

I thought sunflower seeding made it sunny.


I knew you'd say that. Have you ever been underneath a sunflower? Not much sun there, right? The big flower is really good at blocking the sun. The seeds cause the sky to block the sun the only way it can: with clouds. Spray enough seeds and you get enough clouds to make rain. Simple.
 
2014-06-23 12:27:03 PM  
Chemtrails act as one of the warning labels that say "So stupid and ill informed that it actually causes them to become wronger every time they're exposed to new information.  Please be aware that their brain is a lost cause."
 
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