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(WTSP)   66% of consumers wrongly believe that when food is lableled "natural" it actually means something. "Under federal labeling rules, the word natural means absolutely nothing"   (wtsp.com) divider line 117
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2014-06-22 08:44:22 PM
Everything comes from nature at some point. Except perhaps angel food cake that has actual ground up angel in it.
 
2014-06-22 08:52:08 PM
Yah, there's other words on the package. Read those too.
 
2014-06-22 09:24:52 PM
But before the day I met you, life was so unkind. Your love was the key to my peace of mind. 'Cause you made me feel like a natural woman.
 
2014-06-22 09:51:34 PM
natural:
teachgreenbk.files.wordpress.com
equally natural:
upload.wikimedia.org
any questions?
 
2014-06-22 09:56:47 PM

OregonVet: Yah, there's other words on the package. Read those too.


... but those other words are smaller and therefore less important.
 
2014-06-22 09:58:23 PM
Well, did those 66% agree on what they thought it meant?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-06-22 10:01:08 PM
Green!(*) Made of 100% recycled fermions!

(*) Green color ingredients: a collection of molds, spores, and fungus. Not for consumption by consumers with allergies, asthma, or chronic indigestion.
 
2014-06-22 10:06:34 PM
I'm sorry, but there is NOTHING natural about Cheez Whiz

/nothing
 
2014-06-22 10:31:30 PM
B--b-b-b-b-ut ORGANIC!!111!111!1
 
2014-06-22 10:31:42 PM
"In New Jersey, U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Lois Goodman asked for FDA guidance "on whether [high fructose corn syrup] is indeed a natural ingredient or not."

In what universe would corn syrup not be natural?
 
2014-06-22 10:48:09 PM

EvilEgg: Everything comes from nature at some point. Except perhaps angel food cake that has actual ground up angel in it.


Kind of makes you wonder if there's anything in the labeling laws against calling a food "Supernatural".
 
2014-06-22 11:22:24 PM
100% of all food that you eat if ORGANIC.
BY DEFINITION

/bet these same idiots think that there "organic" fud is pesticide free. ROFLMFAO. No assholes, they just use organic pesticides. Much more deadly than manmade. HAHAHAH
//wait, this could be a good thing. Esp if they die out quicker from all their "organic" poisons.
 
2014-06-22 11:23:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku6m0TF9CUg
one of my favorite episodes of Organic Bullshiat!
 
2014-06-22 11:37:36 PM

Ambivalence: EvilEgg: Everything comes from nature at some point. Except perhaps angel food cake that has actual ground up angel in it.

Kind of makes you wonder if there's anything in the labeling laws against calling a food "Supernatural".


Supernatural foods! 
For the Cannibals in your household.
* warning eating the body and blood of zombie jesus will turn you into a mindless zombie.
 
2014-06-22 11:54:23 PM
"Natural stuff is GOOD FOR YOU!"
"Let's talk that over over smoothies.  I'll have a banana smoothie, and I'll get you... hemlock."
 
2014-06-22 11:56:25 PM
"Now with fewer Death spores!"
 
2014-06-22 11:58:26 PM
If it can exist it's natural.
 
2014-06-22 11:59:00 PM

ginandbacon: "In New Jersey, U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Lois Goodman asked for FDA guidance "on whether [high fructose corn syrup] is indeed a natural ingredient or not."

In what universe would corn syrup not be natural?


Do you think that you just squeeze corn and syrup comes out? It's highly processed. High fructose corn syrup is basically corn that's been group up and partially digested.
 
2014-06-22 11:59:07 PM
Goat piss is 100% natural as well.
 
2014-06-23 12:00:12 AM
I guess I always assumed that it just meant that it came from the planet Natur.
 
2014-06-23 12:00:33 AM
I always get a kick out of those labels on things like chocolate bars or bacon bits or some other stuff that's bad for you....where they say "all natural ingredients."

It's that 66% who think that Costco-sized bag of Hershey's Chocolate is healthy for them.

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-23 12:00:35 AM
Is this arsenic free-range and fair-trade?
 
2014-06-23 12:00:45 AM

mr lawson: Goat piss is 100% natural as well.


But enough about Bud light.
 
2014-06-23 12:00:55 AM

itcamefromschenectady: Well, did those 66% agree on what they thought it meant?


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DanZero: B--b-b-b-b-ut ORGANIC!!111!111!1


Actually has legal definitions in order to be labeled USDA Organic.
 
2014-06-23 12:02:24 AM
 
2014-06-23 12:04:31 AM

namatad: 100% of all food that you eat if ORGANIC.
BY DEFINITION

/bet these same idiots think that there "organic" fud is pesticide free. ROFLMFAO. No assholes, they just use organic pesticides. Much more deadly than manmade. HAHAHAH
//wait, this could be a good thing. Esp if they die out quicker from all their "organic" poisons.


My salt shaker would disagree with you.
 
2014-06-23 12:05:07 AM

Delta1212: ginandbacon: "In New Jersey, U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Lois Goodman asked for FDA guidance "on whether [high fructose corn syrup] is indeed a natural ingredient or not."

In what universe would corn syrup not be natural?

Do you think that you just squeeze corn and syrup comes out? It's highly processed. High fructose corn syrup is basically corn that's been group up and partially digested.


It also seems to involve processing with chemicals and enzymes that mere civilians can't easily purchase.

But, basically, beyond that it is all natural... and therefore healthy!
 
2014-06-23 12:05:47 AM

Delta1212: ginandbacon: "In New Jersey, U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Lois Goodman asked for FDA guidance "on whether [high fructose corn syrup] is indeed a natural ingredient or not."

In what universe would corn syrup not be natural?

Do you think that you just squeeze corn and syrup comes out? It's highly processed. High fructose corn syrup is basically corn that's been group up and partially digested.


I'm curious how you think sugar is produced. Or even honey for that matter, speaking of vomit.
 
2014-06-23 12:05:53 AM

namatad: 100% of all food that you eat if ORGANIC.
BY DEFINITION

/bet these same idiots think that there "organic" fud is pesticide free. ROFLMFAO. No assholes, they just use organic pesticides. Much more deadly than manmade. HAHAHAH
//wait, this could be a good thing. Esp if they die out quicker from all their "organic" poisons.


Depends on the chemical.

Nicotine dust and tobacco derivatives aren't approved for organic use, but I still see people saying "Go get some organic smokes, soak them in water, and use the resulting nicotine spray to kill pests".  Nictonoids kill everything. Nasty stuff, so nasty we came up with neonictonoids as a safer to human alternative.

Rotenone can be organically sourced.  Kills fish very very dead with very little, might be linked to Parkinson's.

Pyrethrin is pretty mild though.
 
2014-06-23 12:06:35 AM

Delta1212: ginandbacon: "In New Jersey, U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Lois Goodman asked for FDA guidance "on whether [high fructose corn syrup] is indeed a natural ingredient or not."

In what universe would corn syrup not be natural?

Do you think that you just squeeze corn and syrup comes out? It's highly processed. High fructose corn syrup is basically corn that's been group up and partially digested.


Uhhh, er, um, you don't think cane sugar actually comes out in pretty white crystals, do you??
 
2014-06-23 12:06:47 AM

namatad: 100% of all food that you eat if ORGANIC.
BY DEFINITION

/bet these same idiots think that there "organic" fud is pesticide free. ROFLMFAO. No assholes, they just use organic pesticides. Much more deadly than manmade. HAHAHAH
//wait, this could be a good thing. Esp if they die out quicker from all their "organic" poisons.


That's what most supermarket products should be called. "Fud" instead of "Food".
 
2014-06-23 12:09:00 AM
Add "sushi grade" to the list of meaningless marketing terms.
 
2014-06-23 12:09:49 AM
Sad tag? Is that because the obvious tag died?
 
2014-06-23 12:11:02 AM
As opposed to super natural?

Organic simply means not inorganic

Since you can't eat rocks that's meaningless too
 
2014-06-23 12:11:07 AM
oi57.tinypic.com
 
2014-06-23 12:12:09 AM
Here's how far you can bend those words.  Here is a man in the midst of a field of something that is natural and organic.
i.telegraph.co.uk

Natural:  check.  The crude oil has not undergone extensive processing since being harvested.
Organic:  check.  In the field of chemistry, organic simply means that it is chemistry dealing with complex carbon-based molecules.  Plenty of those in there.
So get to work, mister bucket-man!  Our sales guys have got the bottles lined up for you to fill so we can ship it off to the hippie stores!
 
2014-06-23 12:12:48 AM

Jacobin: As opposed to super natural?

Organic simply means not inorganic

Since you can't eat rocks that's meaningless too


oh really?

bed56888308e93972c04-0dfc23b7b97881dee012a129d9518bae.r34.cf1.rackcdn.com

I'll follow that with.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-23 12:15:27 AM

ginandbacon: Delta1212: ginandbacon: "In New Jersey, U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Lois Goodman asked for FDA guidance "on whether [high fructose corn syrup] is indeed a natural ingredient or not."

In what universe would corn syrup not be natural?

Do you think that you just squeeze corn and syrup comes out? It's highly processed. High fructose corn syrup is basically corn that's been group up and partially digested.

I'm curious how you think sugar is produced. Or even honey for that matter, speaking of vomit.


This.  If granular cane sugar is natural, then corn syrup is natural.  Both are highly refined in a similar manner.

zamboni: Delta1212: ginandbacon: "In New Jersey, U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Lois Goodman asked for FDA guidance "on whether [high fructose corn syrup] is indeed a natural ingredient or not."

In what universe would corn syrup not be natural?

Do you think that you just squeeze corn and syrup comes out? It's highly processed. High fructose corn syrup is basically corn that's been group up and partially digested.

It also seems to involve processing with chemicals and enzymes that mere civilians can't easily purchase.



Fun fact: You can make corn syrup in your mouth.  As a fun experiment reach into your cupboard and pull out a bag of corn starch.  Take a small spoonful and put it in your mouth.  After a while amylase (an enzyme) in your saliva will start to break the starch down into dextrose (corn sugar) and you will start to taste sweet.  You make corn syrup in a plant in the same way, just on a bigger scale.
 
2014-06-23 12:16:03 AM
I've always taken it to mean contains it contains no elements with a periodic table number greater than Uranium (91)


/except 43, Techinetium none of that shait too!
//and while there is natural Promethium, I'd stay away from that too
 
2014-06-23 12:16:35 AM

ginandbacon: I'm curious how you think sugar is produced. Or even honey for that matter, speaking of vomit.


Sugar is grown in sugar canes and it's pretty pure the way it is. You just dump it out, like a pixie stick. It used to be sold in the original packaging (it looks like bamboo), but then people decided that those weren't Pure enough or something, so now we buy it in bags.

I can remember my mom buying it in 4-foot canes, enough to last us for a while. Then they invented candy canes, but those suck compared to the real thing.
 
2014-06-23 12:17:51 AM
FTFA:  When consumers see the word on meat or poultry, 70% think it means no growth hormones were used in the animals feed and 60% think the animals got no antibiotics or other drugs in their feed.
The problem is, consumers are wrong.
Under federal labeling rules, the word natural means absolutely nothing.


That's a problem that should be addressed, unfortunately the corporate ag lobby has fought against measures that allowed consumers to be educated about what they're buying.  For example, Monsanto fought to overturn a law that allowed for milk taken from cows given growth hormones to be labeled as such.

There should be a label for meat and dairy that requires said meat and dairy to have not been treated with antibiotics or various hormones.  Additional labeling to show grass fed and/or free range production would also be useful.

If you want to be pedantic yes, everything is 'natural' and all food is 'organic' but the terms don't have to be defined by the pedants on food labels.  Ice cream made with vanilla flavoring derived from combing numerous chemicals (all of natural origin) to produce a vanilla flavor may be technically natural, but it isn't the same as ice cream made with actual vanilla beans to provide that flavor.

Yes, we can all read the labels, but it would be nice to have an enforceable logo on products that would mean no ingredients were created in a lab.
 
2014-06-23 12:18:59 AM
oi60.tinypic.com
 
2014-06-23 12:21:33 AM
Organic actually has absolutely nothing to do with carbon when it comes to food labeling. But yes, natural literally means nothing on food: it's a marketing ploy.

Organic and USDA Organic are very different; the legal definition is very different from what many people expect. Just because someone does the leg work to become USDA Organic doesn't mean they aren't still evil mono-culture farmers.

There ARE some very good organic farmers out there---a few live just a few miles from where I live, and I can actually go and see how they take care of their farms. Not all organic farmers load up their farms with approved pesticides and insecticide---crop rotation, the presence of animals, and non-monoculture farms (ones that grow flowers, etc) reduce or eliminate the need for many of those sprays.

Luckily, despite Florida being well, Florida, we actually have some very good organic growers out here. Some of them don't bother applying for the USDA Organic label either---their customers know their food is good, because in some cases, their customers work the farms for shares of the yield.

/member of at least two farms to source healthy, local food without the use of nasty pesticides or bizarre fertilizers
//one farm sells elephant tea...made from elephant poop...for your plants
 
2014-06-23 12:21:59 AM

RogermcAllen: After a while amylase (an enzyme) in your saliva will start to break the starch down into dextrose (corn sugar) and you will start to taste sweet.


I was actually taught to do this with certain grains for breads. 

cryinoutloud: ginandbacon: I'm curious how you think sugar is produced. Or even honey for that matter, speaking of vomit.

Sugar is grown in sugar canes and it's pretty pure the way it is. You just dump it out, like a pixie stick. It used to be sold in the original packaging (it looks like bamboo), but then people decided that those weren't Pure enough or something, so now we buy it in bags.

I can remember my mom buying it in 4-foot canes, enough to last us for a while. Then they invented candy canes, but those suck compared to the real thing.


SHUT UP! I just had the most intense sense memory of my mam and my tia Carmen coming back from market every Saturday with canes for us kids to gnaw on while they smoked and drank coffee and gossiped. Oh man was that the life!
 
2014-06-23 12:23:58 AM

meat0918: Jacobin: As opposed to super natural?

Organic simply means not inorganic

Since you can't eat rocks that's meaningless too

oh really?


I see you and raise a Hawaiian specialty.
blog.creativelatvia.com

Mmm.  Inorganic crystals with extra dirt.  That's how we do it!
 
2014-06-23 12:27:22 AM

Ishidan: meat0918: Jacobin: As opposed to super natural?

Organic simply means not inorganic

Since you can't eat rocks that's meaningless too

oh really?

I see you and raise a Hawaiian specialty.
[blog.creativelatvia.com image 550x275]

Mmm.  Inorganic crystals with extra dirt.  That's how we do it!


I must be a salt heathen, because I can't taste anything different between regular old iodized salt and the pink Himalayan salt we got a year or two ago on a lark.
 
2014-06-23 12:27:26 AM
Ruiizu
//one farm sells elephant tea...made from elephant poop...for your plants

I'm so glad you clarified those last two parts.  And doing it in that order is masterful trolling.
 
2014-06-23 12:29:07 AM

ginandbacon: RogermcAllen: After a while amylase (an enzyme) in your saliva will start to break the starch down into dextrose (corn sugar) and you will start to taste sweet.

I was actually taught to do this with certain grains for breads. 

cryinoutloud: ginandbacon: I'm curious how you think sugar is produced. Or even honey for that matter, speaking of vomit.

Sugar is grown in sugar canes and it's pretty pure the way it is. You just dump it out, like a pixie stick. It used to be sold in the original packaging (it looks like bamboo), but then people decided that those weren't Pure enough or something, so now we buy it in bags.

I can remember my mom buying it in 4-foot canes, enough to last us for a while. Then they invented candy canes, but those suck compared to the real thing.

SHUT UP! I just had the most intense sense memory of my mam and my tia Carmen coming back from market every Saturday with canes for us kids to gnaw on while they smoked and drank coffee and gossiped. Oh man was that the life!


I was picking up dinner at my favorite Cuban place a few weeks ago and I noticed they had a new machine behind the counter.  I asked about it, and apparently it's designed to process sugar cane stalks into a sugar cane drink.  I decided to try a glass, and they just fed several stalks through, which were rolled and squeezed until the cane juice came out of the bottom, so basically it's a sugar cane juicer.

The actual cane juice was... different.  Not bad, but not something I'm likely to go for again.  I much prefer the malta drink.
 
2014-06-23 12:29:09 AM
yes
Yes I know.
Salt is a mineral.
But it isnt food. (or FUD)
I guess you could rationally argue that FOOD has calories.
Essential vitamins and minerals are things that we typically get while eating the food.

You can live a long time on ... just eating potatoes. (strange, you can get 100% of your essential amino acids from potatoes. wtf)
If you just eat salt, you would be dead by the end of the day.

/meh
 
2014-06-23 12:30:51 AM
Extra rust, I guess I should say, since the component of interest in alae salt is iron oxide.
Mmmm.  Rust.
 
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