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2014-06-22 08:44:40 AM
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I'm sure Jason will stay just as stupid as ever
 
2014-06-22 09:34:47 AM
Missing the most important question subby. What will happen to nude sunbathing Eric now that the protection from the sun is gone and he is on the glacier and in flames.
 
2014-06-22 01:42:52 PM
thank satan that this is the last season. so tired of the terrible stories, acting and directing.
the whole last season was barely phoned in.
 
2014-06-22 01:52:43 PM

namatad: thank satan that this is the last season. so tired of the terrible stories, acting and directing.
the whole last season was barely phoned in.


Did someone force you to watch at gunpoint?

I think the show was really good at the beginning. The first two seasons were amazing. I think the two dumbest plots were:

1. Sam's family

2. werepanthers

In any case, for me at least the show is about the characters more than the plot.

And Sookie is such a f*cking idiot, but she's meant to be, and the actress pulls it off gloriously. The secret to really enjoying the show is to imagine that she's a gerbil, and then suddenly it all makes sense.
 
2014-06-22 02:16:09 PM
The last season was abysmal.  They've deviated so far from the spirit of the books that I won't be watching.  They did everything to try and make Bill into a nice guy again in the series when he's a douchebag in the books (and Eric is the more decent guy).

Great premise...totally ruined.
 
2014-06-22 02:21:00 PM

slayer199: The last season was abysmal.  They've deviated so far from the spirit of the books that I won't be watching.  They did everything to try and make Bill into a nice guy again in the series when he's a douchebag in the books (and Eric is the more decent guy).

Great premise...totally ruined.


What truly sucks is that the last two books have been total dreck and garbage.  I mean seriously.  THAT is how you finish such a long running series?
 
2014-06-22 04:45:23 PM
I am just going to appreciate the show for what it is...silly.  With tittahs.
 
2014-06-22 04:49:33 PM

BizarreMan: slayer199: The last season was abysmal.  They've deviated so far from the spirit of the books that I won't be watching.  They did everything to try and make Bill into a nice guy again in the series when he's a douchebag in the books (and Eric is the more decent guy).

Great premise...totally ruined.

What truly sucks is that the last two books have been total dreck and garbage.  I mean seriously.  THAT is how you finish such a long running series?


http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sequelitis
 
2014-06-22 05:17:19 PM

BizarreMan: What truly sucks is that the last two books have been total dreck and garbage. I mean seriously. THAT is how you finish such a long running series?


They all kind of were... Charlane Harris is not a phenomenal writer by any means. She had a great concept but has a grasp of things like sex as much as I did when I was a thirteen-year-old virgin starting to wonder what sex was like.

I've been on a major insomnia kick and HBO 2 has shown the whole series night by night working up to tonight.  Last season probably should have been the end (If I'd written it, I'd have had all the vampires die, have Eric kill Warlo, and last scene is Sookie popping fangs - the only vampire left on earth.)  Sure, it's open-ended and it's strange, but it would have worked.

Though I will say this, as much as I did not LOVE last season, it's clear re-watching it all that the writers of the show were planting seeds all along and it actually does all make sense watching it in retrospect.

And if Eric comes back ala Godric in visions to Pam and/or Tara, I may stab my television. He MUST be alive and part of the show. He's the freaking Tyrion of "True Blood."  He can't die.
 
2014-06-22 05:20:41 PM

serpent_sky: They all kind of were... Charlane Harris is not a phenomenal writer by any means. She had a great concept but has a grasp of things like sex as much as I did when I was a thirteen-year-old virgin starting to wonder what sex was like.


Note: the book where Eric loses his memory and the first time Sookie and him have sex. He apparently has a six-FOOT long penis, the way it's described, and just very, very awkward for a character as suave as Eric.

In fairness, I started reading the books post season 3, and already had a fondness for Eric, who is better portrayed by Alexander Skarsgaard than the author of the books. But then again, everyone is.

Also, why did Lafayette evolve from an eccentric gay guy to a borderline drag queen over the six seasons so far?
 
2014-06-22 06:44:09 PM

serpent_sky: In fairness, I started reading the books post season 3, and already had a fondness for Eric, who is better portrayed by Alexander Skarsgaard than the author of the books. But then again, everyone is.

Also, why did Lafayette evolve from an eccentric gay guy to a borderline drag queen over the six seasons so far?


Charlene Harris created some interested characters...but I couldn't get through the books beyond the 2nd because they appear to have been written by a 12 year-old girl.  I know it's from Sookie's perspective but it's ridiculously immature IMHO.
 
2014-06-22 06:54:47 PM

slayer199: Charlene Harris created some interested characters...but I couldn't get through the books beyond the 2nd because they appear to have been written by a 12 year-old girl. I know it's from Sookie's perspective but it's ridiculously immature IMHO.


Exactly...  Sookie is an adult, why does it read like a curious teenager?  I stopped reading at spoliers (that weren't 100% accurate) during the Marnie season -- which was way better than I remembered, aside from Eric being adorable.  I can be a real girlie girl about him.
 
2014-06-22 07:00:36 PM
Yeah not following the books is a good thing.
 
2014-06-22 07:18:20 PM
Ugh. The last season was so horrible I deleted all of them from our media server. DIAF already Sookie.

/sookie
//http://videos.nymag.com/video/Everyone-Says-Sookie
 
2014-06-22 07:53:05 PM

Hiro-ACiD: Ugh. The last season was so horrible I deleted all of them from our media server. DIAF already Sookie.

/sookie
//http://videos.nymag.com/video/Everyone-Says-Sookie


I hated last season more than I hated the last season of Dexter.
 
2014-06-22 08:24:56 PM

serpent_sky: And if Eric comes back ala Godric in visions to Pam and/or Tara, I may stab my television. He MUST be alive and part of the show. He's the freaking Tyrion of "True Blood." He can't die.


I would kill and pay a Koch's ransom for a TV show with a Dinklage/Skaargaard pairing.
 
2014-06-22 08:30:19 PM

BizarreMan: slayer199: The last season was abysmal.  They've deviated so far from the spirit of the books that I won't be watching.  They did everything to try and make Bill into a nice guy again in the series when he's a douchebag in the books (and Eric is the more decent guy).

Great premise...totally ruined.

What truly sucks is that the last two books have been total dreck and garbage.  I mean seriously.  THAT is how you finish such a long running series?




The ending was alright. Nothing was as bad as the 3rd book. It was a damn romance novel about a chubby girl learning that she can be pretty too.

Living Dead in Dallas was the best book.

And the TV show is better
 
2014-06-22 08:31:22 PM

OtherLittleGuy: I would kill and pay a Koch's ransom for a TV show with a Dinklage/Skaargaard pairing.


Ayra and the Hound 2.0?
 
2014-06-22 08:51:44 PM
Bathe the Sookie stink off Alcide and deliver him to my chamber...only reason to watch imho...
 
2014-06-22 09:03:59 PM
OR! OR! We could switch to BBCA and watch a premier that hasn't yet dashed our hopes and dreams.

/no, just me?
 
2014-06-22 09:04:06 PM
Ghost
 
2014-06-22 09:05:02 PM
no don't kill the extras
 
2014-06-22 09:06:49 PM
Just like that? ...
 
2014-06-22 09:07:35 PM

CyberKultist: OR! OR! We could switch to BBCA and watch a premier that hasn't yet dashed our hopes and dreams.

/no, just me?


I'm trying The Last Ship in any case
 
2014-06-22 09:08:35 PM

CyberKultist: OR! OR! We could switch to BBCA and watch a premier that hasn't yet dashed our hopes and dreams.

/no, just me?


Might just be you. I have little desire to see the story that's already been filmed a hundred different ways.
 
2014-06-22 09:08:54 PM

ilikeracecars: CyberKultist: OR! OR! We could switch to BBCA and watch a premier that hasn't yet dashed our hopes and dreams.

/no, just me?

I'm trying The Last Ship in any case


Let me know how that is.
 
2014-06-22 09:10:02 PM
"They killed Tara...."

img.4plebs.org
 
2014-06-22 09:17:16 PM
Love Pam.
 
2014-06-22 09:18:46 PM
Heh. This could possibly be the worst show ever. If they really just killed off a long time character in that fashion...I don't even.

The books are just as bad after #5 or so.
 
2014-06-22 09:21:58 PM
They just.. Killed her?? biatches.
 
2014-06-22 09:23:10 PM
It's weird how the profanity in this show seems....forced. It sounds odd to me somehow.
 
2014-06-22 09:27:40 PM
Yay, Tara dead.
 
2014-06-22 09:39:01 PM

serpent_sky: OtherLittleGuy: I would kill and pay a Koch's ransom for a TV show with a Dinklage/Skaargaard pairing.

Ayra and the Hound 2.0?


Followed by Pam and Daenerys.
 
2014-06-22 09:41:49 PM
It's safe to say that Anna Paquin takes care of most of the "How come Actress So-and-so doesn't show her tits" karma.
 
2014-06-22 10:04:51 PM
I'm re- watching season 4 right now, in my binge watch, and I'm at the point where Eric's memory has disappeared and he's an adorable playful boy.  It's awesome to watch.

It's also amusing to see the amount of chest hair on the male characters change over the seasons.  Alcede especially.  He's yummy
 
2014-06-22 10:05:33 PM
Just came to say how terrible last season was.

Has that been covered yet?
 
2014-06-22 10:10:18 PM

serpent_sky: serpent_sky: They all kind of were... Charlane Harris is not a phenomenal writer by any means. She had a great concept but has a grasp of things like sex as much as I did when I was a thirteen-year-old virgin starting to wonder what sex was like.

Note: the book where Eric loses his memory and the first time Sookie and him have sex. He apparently has a six-FOOT long penis, the way it's described, and just very, very awkward for a character as suave as Eric.

In fairness, I started reading the books post season 3, and already had a fondness for Eric, who is better portrayed by Alexander Skarsgaard than the author of the books. But then again, everyone is.

Also, why did Lafayette evolve from an eccentric gay guy to a borderline drag queen over the six seasons so far?


He was always a borderline drag queen, much more so than an eccentric gay guy.  As someone from Louisiana he is one of the "realest" characters on the show.
 
2014-06-22 10:19:25 PM
I'm going into this season like I do Lions football. No expectations. I was surprised on this one, I thought it was pretty decent. Not surprised they killed off Tara (again). Really. Her shtick was boring in the first season; supremely one note character. Deborah Ann Woll and Chris Bauer killed it this ep though, they were fantastic. I'll throw Kristen Bauer von Straten in that list too.

Questions though:
1: wtf was it that scared the h-vamps away?
2: Violet was just oddly annoying... why? The female power thing was there, but it was like Jason was her biatch and that was it. Which is damn funny. Not really seeing her point. Aside from the magnificent nipples that could poke your eyes out. They're like Mountain thumbs. Quite wonderful.

The good: as mentioned; the above actors really kicked ass. The makeup for the vamps is really good. New James and Lafayette were good too.

The bad: Alcide... oh Alcide. Capt Cardboard to the rescue. Poor Arlene, that chick just can't catch a break.

The ugly: who else thinks that Sams new chicky is either going to lose the baby in the dungeon and or be killed before the 5th episode? Noooooo not Kevin!
 
2014-06-22 10:25:33 PM
Hated to see Kevin go. Seemed weird to give Tara an offscreen death. I also didn't get what scared the H-vamps away.

If I had Alcide naked in my bed, I'd have no time for sulking in the kitchen, going to church, or giving a shiat about the town falling apart around me.
 
2014-06-23 12:12:47 AM

Chelle82: Seemed weird to give Tara an offscreen death.


If I had to guess, the actress said "nope!" and didn't want to keep playing the character.

That's often why those things happen.
 
2014-06-23 12:16:56 AM

theflatline: serpent_sky: serpent_sky: They all kind of were... Charlane Harris is not a phenomenal writer by any means. She had a great concept but has a grasp of things like sex as much as I did when I was a thirteen-year-old virgin starting to wonder what sex was like.

Note: the book where Eric loses his memory and the first time Sookie and him have sex. He apparently has a six-FOOT long penis, the way it's described, and just very, very awkward for a character as suave as Eric.

In fairness, I started reading the books post season 3, and already had a fondness for Eric, who is better portrayed by Alexander Skarsgaard than the author of the books. But then again, everyone is.

Also, why did Lafayette evolve from an eccentric gay guy to a borderline drag queen over the six seasons so far?

He was always a borderline drag queen, much more so than an eccentric gay guy.  As someone from Louisiana he is one of the "realest" characters on the show.


A. Lafayette is one of the best characters in anything, ever. Spike from Buffy is, however, better.

B. As a straight guy, I wish I was gay so I could sleep with him.
 
2014-06-23 01:43:54 AM
The only way to watch it is to DVR,and skip anything with sookie and tara in it. Except for boobies, because w, well, boobies.

Sid_6.7:
A. Lafayette is one of the best characters in anything, ever. Spike from Buffy is, however, better.

B. As a straight guy, I wish I was gay so I could sleep with him.


A. Yes on Lafayette being one of the great characters out there. But I never enjoyed BVS so I'll disagree about that part.

B. Don't see how being straight stops you from sleeping with him. Well anymore than the fact it's a fictional character, that is.
 
2014-06-23 02:06:44 AM
I marathoned the show for the last two weeks in anticipation of tonight. I have loved every bit of it (except for the werewolves and werepanthers -- holy god!) from Sookie the Danger Whore to Tara the One-Note. I love Sookie and Bill and Jessica, ADORE Eric (especially Amnesia!Eric of course), LOVE LOVE LOVE LaFayette, and at least like everyone else, like Pam and even screamy Ginger. The whole last two weeks of getting to know and love this show has been like a rollercoaster -- a wild thrill ride with sex and butts and even a penis! (before it caught fire).

So, I am going to have to experience the anticipation of waiting a week between episodes, and I wonder if that will change my view of the show? If I might not like the season because I have more time invested? I'm interested in finding out.

I'm so happy that I decided to watch this show -- it has rewarded me IMMENSELY and I make no apologies for that.
 
2014-06-23 02:17:07 AM
I will confess that there is one way the show bitterly disappointed me (crushing disappointment): So little Godric and Eric/Godric.

They should have had Godric instead of Nora, because I can guaran-damn-tee you that if Godric had died of Hep-V in Eric's arms it would have gotten a screaming/crying/sobbing fit out of me instead of a "Halleluja"!

Godric/Eric -- criminally missed opportunity for so many reasons.
 
2014-06-23 02:56:36 AM

silvervial: I marathoned the show for the last two weeks in anticipation of tonight. I have loved every bit of it (except for the werewolves and werepanthers -- holy god!) from Sookie the Danger Whore to Tara the One-Note. I love Sookie and Bill and Jessica, ADORE Eric (especially Amnesia!Eric of course), LOVE LOVE LOVE LaFayette, and at least like everyone else, like Pam and even screamy Ginger. The whole last two weeks of getting to know and love this show has been like a rollercoaster -- a wild thrill ride with sex and butts and even a penis! (before it caught fire).

So, I am going to have to experience the anticipation of waiting a week between episodes, and I wonder if that will change my view of the show? If I might not like the season because I have more time invested? I'm interested in finding out.

I'm so happy that I decided to watch this show -- it has rewarded me IMMENSELY and I make no apologies for that.


You might want to check out the hilarious  recaps over at the io9 site. They really add a lot to my enjoyment of the silliness of the show.
 
2014-06-23 06:42:45 AM
I stopped watching when a season premiere included grenade-throwing fairies. Did it get any better after that?
 
2014-06-23 07:51:00 AM

Sid_6.7: Chelle82: Seemed weird to give Tara an offscreen death.

If I had to guess, the actress said "nope!" and didn't want to keep playing the character.

That's often why those things happen.


I did wonder what behind-the-scenes shenanigans warranted such an abrupt death.  I just wish that her final line was "Eggggs!"
 
2014-06-23 08:06:47 AM

fozziewazzi: I stopped watching when a season premiere included grenade-throwing fairies. Did it get any better after that?


Nope.
 
2014-06-23 08:17:34 AM
What's an H Vamp? I'm a couple seasons behind...
 
2014-06-23 08:25:00 AM

fozziewazzi: I stopped watching when a season premiere included grenade-throwing fairies. Did it get any better after that?


Rip Taylor was in this? I must have missed a season.
 
2014-06-23 08:30:09 AM

LlamaGirl: What's an H Vamp? I'm a couple seasons behind...


Last season the "big bad" created a virus and named it Hepatitus V.   Humans carry it, but it is fatal to vamps.  They contaminated the True Blood supply so many vamps were infected.  It's fatal to the vamps, causing bleeding out.  The H Vamps are going to die and since they know they're going out, they want to take as many humans out with them.
 
2014-06-23 09:35:26 AM

Nefarious: ilikeracecars: CyberKultist: OR! OR! We could switch to BBCA and watch a premier that hasn't yet dashed our hopes and dreams.

/no, just me?

I'm trying The Last Ship in any case

Let me know how that is.


Very tropey, but it was the pilot.  I'll give it another shot next week to see if it changes.
 
2014-06-23 10:04:46 AM

Lith: The only way to watch it is to DVR,and skip anything with sookie and tara in it. Except for boobies, because w, well, boobies.

Sid_6.7:
A. Lafayette is one of the best characters in anything, ever. Spike from Buffy is, however, better.

B. As a straight guy, I wish I was gay so I could sleep with him.

A. Yes on Lafayette being one of the great characters out there. But I never enjoyed BVS so I'll disagree about that part.

B. Don't see how being straight stops you from sleeping with him. Well anymore than the fact it's a fictional character, that is.


BVS was decent, but Angel was better, esp. the final season.
 
2014-06-23 10:09:30 AM

BizarreMan: Last season the "big bad" created a virus and named it Hepatitus V. Humans carry it, but it is fatal to vamps. They contaminated the True Blood supply so many vamps were infected. It's fatal to the vamps, causing bleeding out. The H Vamps are going to die and since they know they're going out, they want to take as many humans out with them.


Stupid plot device.  100% fatal.  It takes as long to kill a vamp as ebola kills a human and that was on a very old and powerful vampire (Nora).  It should burn out the infected vampire population in a matter of weeks, world-wide.
 
2014-06-23 10:13:29 AM
I feel like the show has become a bad book that I just have to finish on principle. But at this point, I just put it on in the background while I do other stuff.
 
2014-06-23 10:16:44 AM

thornhill: I feel like the show has become a bad book that I just have to finish on principle. But at this point, I just put it on in the background while I do other stuff.


I did the same thing with "Six Feet Under". I would advise watching just the final episode, if only for the last ten minutes,
 
2014-06-23 10:22:03 AM

RoyHobbs22: Yay, Tara dead.

 
2014-06-23 10:23:10 AM

OtherLittleGuy: thornhill: I feel like the show has become a bad book that I just have to finish on principle. But at this point, I just put it on in the background while I do other stuff.

I did the same thing with "Six Feet Under". I would advise watching just the final episode, if only for the last ten minutes,


That show I just gave up on.

I just couldn't stand all of the highly scripted melodramatic screaming arguments.
 
2014-06-23 10:40:41 AM
I know it it probably too late to hope for, but the show really needs some more curvy/busty nakedness.

The flat chested uncurved naked girls gets boring
 
2014-06-23 11:23:50 AM

TigerzDad: I know it it probably too late to hope for, but the show really needs some more curvy/busty nakedness.

The flat chested uncurved naked girls gets boring


flat chested?!


Yeah odds are you are trolling, but it give me a chance to post this:

i.imgur.com

And that's always a good thing
 
2014-06-23 11:28:07 AM

foo monkey: Stupid plot device. 100% fatal. It takes as long to kill a vamp as ebola kills a human and that was on a very old and powerful vampire (Nora). It should burn out the infected vampire population in a matter of weeks, world-wide.


It isn't 100% fatal though.  The H-Vamps are the ones that have been infected, but survived.
 
2014-06-23 11:39:12 AM

OtherLittleGuy: serpent_sky: And if Eric comes back ala Godric in visions to Pam and/or Tara, I may stab my television. He MUST be alive and part of the show. He's the freaking Tyrion of "True Blood." He can't die.

I would kill and pay a Koch's ransom for a TV show with a Dinklage/Skaargaard pairing.


Add in a couple more of the Skaarsgard brothers and I am there (with a towel to wipe up the drool)
 
2014-06-23 11:46:10 AM
The show has run out of supernatural creatures for Sookie to bang.  She has farked vamps, faeries, and werewolves.  Once that girl cracked the seal she just threw it out there to anyone who was interested.
 
2014-06-23 12:06:43 PM

TUO3MTA3: foo monkey: Stupid plot device. 100% fatal. It takes as long to kill a vamp as ebola kills a human and that was on a very old and powerful vampire (Nora). It should burn out the infected vampire population in a matter of weeks, world-wide.

It isn't 100% fatal though.  The H-Vamps are the ones that have been infected, but survived.


Wild guessing here but Bill acted like it was a death sentence when that guy tried to trick him into drinking from him. I remember correctly Sookie stopped him because he thought something about killing Bill with this blood. This was when Sookie and the audience learned about the problem.

And I'm sure it's like everything else, the older the vamp the longer it can last.
 
2014-06-23 12:16:28 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: TigerzDad: I know it it probably too late to hope for, but the show really needs some more curvy/busty nakedness.

The flat chested uncurved naked girls gets boring

flat chested?!


Yeah odds are you are trolling, but it give me a chance to post this:

[i.imgur.com image 500x281]

And that's always a good thing


She hasn't gotten naked in a while

Jason's current vamp girl friend was definitely a down grade
 
2014-06-23 12:18:05 PM
Can anyone recommend these novels to me? I love urban fantasy, don't hate paranormal romance; I enjoyed the Anita Blake series until it turned into '3/4 of every book is sex with some mystery hammered in to drive to different sex places, then till the remainder with pointless relationship drama'. And Sookie here gets mentioned in the same breath by most people, but every time I read a synopsis it about makes me have an aneurysm from stupidity. Are the novels good, or should I just stay away?
 
2014-06-23 12:25:36 PM
I find it odd they would kill Tara off screen and then leave her in the credits. Makes me think she isn't dead, after all the only witness is the crazy mom.
 
2014-06-23 12:52:26 PM
I used to love this show. I did watch last season and wasn't impressed at all, the storyline was truly forgettable. When it came on last night half of it didn't make sense. (When did Merlotte's become Bellflor's?) I lasted about 25 minutes and went on to more interesting TV. I'm done. The first 2 seasons were great. The rest has been reaching for storylines and not succeeding.
 
2014-06-23 12:59:09 PM
Jason Stackhouse: dat ass!
 
2014-06-23 12:59:34 PM

therecksays: I find it odd they would kill Tara off screen and then leave her in the credits. Makes me think she isn't dead, after all the only witness is the crazy mom.


The actress said she's dead

Which means we gotta suffer through 9 more episodes of mom talking to ghost Tara
 
2014-06-23 01:10:33 PM

therecksays: I find it odd they would kill Tara off screen and then leave her in the credits. Makes me think she isn't dead, after all the only witness is the crazy mom.


She's likely under contract through this season (and probably several more), and any episode she appears in she gets top billing. If she was no longer under contract, she'd be billed as a guest star, and that billing would be after the rest of the cast.

And just because she's under contract doesn't mean she has to be in any episodes -- TV actors typically get paid per episode.
 
2014-06-23 01:13:07 PM

Bunkyb123: I used to love this show. I did watch last season and wasn't impressed at all, the storyline was truly forgettable. When it came on last night half of it didn't make sense. (When did Merlotte's become Bellflor's?) I lasted about 25 minutes and went on to more interesting TV. I'm done. The first 2 seasons were great. The rest has been reaching for storylines and not succeeding.


The last 10 minutes of the last season's season finale was like a 1 year flash forward.
 
2014-06-23 01:51:22 PM

BizarreMan: LlamaGirl: What's an H Vamp? I'm a couple seasons behind...

Last season the "big bad" created a virus and named it Hepatitus V.   Humans carry it, but it is fatal to vamps.  They contaminated the True Blood supply so many vamps were infected.  It's fatal to the vamps, causing bleeding out.  The H Vamps are going to die and since they know they're going out, they want to take as many humans out with them.


One of the humans hanging out with the nest of vampires in the first season had Hep-V.  Sookie read it in his thoughts.
 
2014-06-23 01:57:15 PM

kroonermanblack: Can anyone recommend these novels to me? I love urban fantasy, don't hate paranormal romance; I enjoyed the Anita Blake series until it turned into '3/4 of every book is sex with some mystery hammered in to drive to different sex places, then till the remainder with pointless relationship drama'. And Sookie here gets mentioned in the same breath by most people, but every time I read a synopsis it about makes me have an aneurysm from stupidity. Are the novels good, or should I just stay away?



They're decent fluff - I've read 11 out of the 13 (haven't read the last two yet... probably will eventually). Sookie is written with an air of immaturity, but I think part of it is intentional because the story is written in her own narrative. The fairy storyline is far better in the books, I will say that much. The show completely ruined them. The book series... I'd give it a 6 out of 10 - they're quick summer reads if you're looking to escape into something light.

As far as other urban fantasy goes, I would highly recommend Samantha Young (not her contemporary romance novels - but her urban fantasy series' like her Warriors of Ankh series, or Fire Spirits series; Nicole Williams' Eden trilogy was great; India Drummond's Caledonia Fae series and even Elizabeth Hunter's Elemental Mysteries (read these before you read the books in the Elemental World series) are all good reads. The Immortal Circus trilogy by A. R. Kahler is another one I'd recommend, especially if you enjoy stories about traveling circuses - the story is really original and I liked it.
 
2014-06-23 02:00:29 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Jason Stackhouse: dat ass!


Hells yeah!
 
2014-06-23 02:00:40 PM

thornhill: therecksays: I find it odd they would kill Tara off screen and then leave her in the credits. Makes me think she isn't dead, after all the only witness is the crazy mom.

She's likely under contract through this season (and probably several more), and any episode she appears in she gets top billing. If she was no longer under contract, she'd be billed as a guest star, and that billing would be after the rest of the cast.

And just because she's under contract doesn't mean she has to be in any episodes -- TV actors typically get paid per episode.


Yeah, but why would someone get top billed for a season they are not in? Where they are billed in the credits is a big thing for the actor's guild, and someone not appearing in the season usually doesn't get in the credits.
 
2014-06-23 02:33:54 PM

Mad_Radhu: thornhill: therecksays: I find it odd they would kill Tara off screen and then leave her in the credits. Makes me think she isn't dead, after all the only witness is the crazy mom.

She's likely under contract through this season (and probably several more), and any episode she appears in she gets top billing. If she was no longer under contract, she'd be billed as a guest star, and that billing would be after the rest of the cast.

And just because she's under contract doesn't mean she has to be in any episodes -- TV actors typically get paid per episode.

Yeah, but why would someone get top billed for a season they are not in? Where they are billed in the credits is a big thing for the actor's guild, and someone not appearing in the season usually doesn't get in the credits.


The number of episodes you appear in is irrelevant. There are actors who are in most if not all episodes of a show but will be listed as a guest star because they don't have a long term contract with the show.
 
2014-06-23 02:57:44 PM

thornhill: The number of episodes you appear in is irrelevant. There are actors who are in most if not all episodes of a show but will be listed as a guest star because they don't have a long term contract with the show.


Yes, but if you are killing off an actor for the first episode of the season, there's no reason to keep them on if they are not coming back for some reason. You're just wasting money giving them a contract for a whole season. They've got to be using her in another way later.
 
2014-06-23 02:59:19 PM

Bunkyb123: I used to love this show. I did watch last season and wasn't impressed at all, the storyline was truly forgettable. When it came on last night half of it didn't make sense. (When did Merlotte's become Bellflor's?) I lasted about 25 minutes and went on to more interesting TV. I'm done. The first 2 seasons were great. The rest has been reaching for storylines and not succeeding.


Glad to see I was not alone. I was SO confused.
 
2014-06-23 03:20:47 PM

thornhill: therecksays: I find it odd they would kill Tara off screen and then leave her in the credits. Makes me think she isn't dead, after all the only witness is the crazy mom.

She's likely under contract through this season (and probably several more), and any episode she appears in she gets top billing. If she was no longer under contract, she'd be billed as a guest star, and that billing would be after the rest of the cast.

And just because she's under contract doesn't mean she has to be in any episodes -- TV actors typically get paid per episode.


This is the final season of the show. Last season main storyline was pretty terrible. Warlow was a major letdown. Burrell/Sarah Newlin were kinda lame. I did like the Billith line, also Andy and his faerie daughters. Terry's death was just sad. Not in a mourning way, it was just sad.

This season, they have a good chance to go out on a high note.
 
2014-06-23 03:23:24 PM

SundaesChild: One of the humans hanging out with the nest of vampires in the first season had Hep-V.  Sookie read it in his thoughts.


Actually, they called it Hepatitis D in the first season.  Sounds very similar, of course.

kroonermanblack: Can anyone recommend these novels to me? I love urban fantasy, don't hate paranormal romance; I enjoyed the Anita Blake series until it turned into '3/4 of every book is sex with some mystery hammered in to drive to different sex places, then till the remainder with pointless relationship drama'. And Sookie here gets mentioned in the same breath by most people, but every time I read a synopsis it about makes me have an aneurysm from stupidity. Are the novels good, or should I just stay away?


They aren't bad, but as has been said, they don't hold upas well towards the end.  There are LOTS of differences between the books and the TV series, so you might want to read them to see what really happens in Bon Temps instead of Hollywood.

Charlaine Harris' Grave Sight series was better IMO, but there were only 4 books.
 
2014-06-23 03:24:51 PM

Mad_Radhu: thornhill: The number of episodes you appear in is irrelevant. There are actors who are in most if not all episodes of a show but will be listed as a guest star because they don't have a long term contract with the show.

Yes, but if you are killing off an actor for the first episode of the season, there's no reason to keep them on if they are not coming back for some reason. You're just wasting money giving them a contract for a whole season. They've got to be using her in another way later.


1. Who knows what's in her contract.

2. The show has brought back dead people as ghosts, so she could be back in that form.

3. She wasn't killed on screen, so maybe she didn't die and will be back.
 
2014-06-23 03:32:06 PM

Aezetyr: thornhill: therecksays: I find it odd they would kill Tara off screen and then leave her in the credits. Makes me think she isn't dead, after all the only witness is the crazy mom.

She's likely under contract through this season (and probably several more), and any episode she appears in she gets top billing. If she was no longer under contract, she'd be billed as a guest star, and that billing would be after the rest of the cast.

And just because she's under contract doesn't mean she has to be in any episodes -- TV actors typically get paid per episode.

This is the final season of the show. Last season main storyline was pretty terrible.


What's so amusing (even a bit ironic) about how crappy last season was, that this was the season when we finally got all of the questions answered about Sookie's power and her family, and it was just a big pile of meh.

As the show has delved deeper into fantasy it's grown less and and less interesting.

Maybe I'm making this up, but I recall the show originally being advertised as a mystery, where Bill and Sookie would work together solving crimes in a universe where vampires and other fantasy creatures exist. The first season was kinda like that, and I still think that's a cool premise. And what I liked about the first two seasons was that everybody had secrets and you didn't quite know who to trust.

But then the show just drank its own kool aid on vampires being a metaphor for every social issue.
 
2014-06-23 03:41:44 PM

theflatline: The show has run out of supernatural creatures for Sookie to bang.  She has farked vamps, faeries, and werewolves.  Once that girl cracked the seal she just threw it out there to anyone who was interested.


We're still short a reputedly hot weretiger. Just sayin'

That being said, I'm more watching this season because I hate leaving things unfinished.
 
2014-06-23 03:45:41 PM

kroonermanblack: Can anyone recommend these novels to me? I love urban fantasy, don't hate paranormal romance; I enjoyed the Anita Blake series until it turned into '3/4 of every book is sex with some mystery hammered in to drive to different sex places, then till the remainder with pointless relationship drama'. And Sookie here gets mentioned in the same breath by most people, but every time I read a synopsis it about makes me have an aneurysm from stupidity. Are the novels good, or should I just stay away?


It's fun silliness, for the most part, but it can get schlocky. Often.

If you want good Urban Fantasy, I'd recommend the Otherworld series, to be honest. It's complete now and it's one of the better written sets out there.

For the less romantic stuff of the genre, The Dresden Files is an absolute staple if you haven't read it already.

I'm going through the Mercy Thompson books right now, myself, Midway through book 2 so far and I'm loving 'em.
 
2014-06-23 03:50:37 PM
I'm torn between hoping it doesn't end the way I've heard the books do and hoping it ends just the way the books do, just to see the fan reaction.

...let's just say the "treat supernaturals as a paper-thin allegory for gay rights" thing might come back to bite them (well, even moreso than when they revealed they run a vast conspiracy to control everything.)
 
2014-06-23 04:46:39 PM

Grungehamster: I'm torn between hoping it doesn't end the way I've heard the books do and hoping it ends just the way the books do, just to see the fan reaction.

...let's just say the "treat supernaturals as a paper-thin allegory for gay rights" thing might come back to bite them (well, even moreso than when they revealed they run a vast conspiracy to control everything.)


This was my complaint from Season One, when they had the Magister (remember when he was a complete badass? Good times.) and how Jessica was turned early on. The Vamps were holding back and could just harvest human society at will, but didn't want the food source to disappear overnight.

You keep your "gay allegory" and then have this, and you've just fueled the "homosexual agenda" for the far-right.
 
2014-06-23 05:08:23 PM

foo monkey: BizarreMan: Last season the "big bad" created a virus and named it Hepatitus V. Humans carry it, but it is fatal to vamps. They contaminated the True Blood supply so many vamps were infected. It's fatal to the vamps, causing bleeding out. The H Vamps are going to die and since they know they're going out, they want to take as many humans out with them.

Stupid plot device.  100% fatal.  It takes as long to kill a vamp as ebola kills a human and that was on a very old and powerful vampire (Nora).  It should burn out the infected vampire population in a matter of weeks, world-wide.


Humans are carriers of it so even healthy vamps can get it if they feed on the wrong one. WIth True Blood being tainted as well as tainted humans have made it very hard to feed, but not impossible.
 
2014-06-23 05:10:01 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Grungehamster: I'm torn between hoping it doesn't end the way I've heard the books do and hoping it ends just the way the books do, just to see the fan reaction.

...let's just say the "treat supernaturals as a paper-thin allegory for gay rights" thing might come back to bite them (well, even moreso than when they revealed they run a vast conspiracy to control everything.)


This was my complaint from Season One, when they had the Magister (remember when he was a complete badass? Good times.) and how Jessica was turned early on. The Vamps were holding back and could just harvest human society at will, but didn't want the food source to disappear overnight.


You keep your "gay allegory" and then have this, and you've just fueled the "homosexual agenda" for the far-right.


From what I've heard (second hand, so my spoilers may be way off but will hide them just in case):


Ultimately Sookie goes fundie and realizes supernatural creatures are inherently evil because of what they are (and not having God's love), so she cashes in all her favors to end up in a scenario where her and the beau of choice end up human ever after and she cuts off all contact with the rest of the supernatural world.


That is even worse, isn't it?

 
2014-06-23 06:21:09 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: TUO3MTA3: foo monkey: Stupid plot device. 100% fatal. It takes as long to kill a vamp as ebola kills a human and that was on a very old and powerful vampire (Nora). It should burn out the infected vampire population in a matter of weeks, world-wide.

It isn't 100% fatal though.  The H-Vamps are the ones that have been infected, but survived.

Wild guessing here but Bill acted like it was a death sentence when that guy tried to trick him into drinking from him. I remember correctly Sookie stopped him because he thought something about killing Bill with this blood. This was when Sookie and the audience learned about the problem.

And I'm sure it's like everything else, the older the vamp the longer it can last.


No, Jerry (the trickster) had Hep-D, which as Bill explained only makes vamps weak for about a month and the main worry is other vamps staking them while they are weak.

The governor hired scientists to modify Hep-D into Hep-V to poison the TruBlood. Hep-V is much more deadly, as we saw with Nora. However, once Hep-V made it out into the general population of humans and vampires, the newscast said that it had mutated and makes vamps sick, weak, and needing more and more, way more than normal, amounts of blood to stay alive (hence why they are eating entire small towns), and takes a lot longer to kill them. The newscast said that one-eighth of the world population of vampires is infected, and more and more humans (as we learned in Morocco) are carriers.
 
2014-06-23 07:16:41 PM

thornhill: Mad_Radhu: thornhill: The number of episodes you appear in is irrelevant. There are actors who are in most if not all episodes of a show but will be listed as a guest star because they don't have a long term contract with the show.

Yes, but if you are killing off an actor for the first episode of the season, there's no reason to keep them on if they are not coming back for some reason. You're just wasting money giving them a contract for a whole season. They've got to be using her in another way later.

1. Who knows what's in her contract.

2. The show has brought back dead people as ghosts, so she could be back in that form.

3. She wasn't killed on screen, so maybe she didn't die and will be back.


Or they could have left her in for the first episode and then remove her from the rest.  They did that on some of the Stargate series a few times when regulars left the show.  Top billing right up until the last episode they were.  We'll know for sure next week.

If they keep her on the roster, then yeah, she's showing up somewhere.
 
2014-06-23 10:56:07 PM
I'd never seen this show (I don't watch much TV) but got invited to the premier at the Chinese Theatre.  "True Blood" has got some of the worst acting I've ever seen.  However many millions they made off of corny Louisiana-ness, they spelled "Cajun" "Cajon" at the afterparty.  The Cajon mac and cheese (cajones?) was right next to the fried chicken and watermelon.
 
2014-06-24 12:13:00 AM
What makes me think that Tara is still alive is that Pam didn't feel her death. And she would have not matter where she was. She felt it when Tara tried to off herself in the tanning bed and never released her before taking off after Eric.
 
2014-06-24 05:17:15 AM

silvervial: The Stealth Hippopotamus: TUO3MTA3: foo monkey: Stupid plot device. 100% fatal. It takes as long to kill a vamp as ebola kills a human and that was on a very old and powerful vampire (Nora). It should burn out the infected vampire population in a matter of weeks, world-wide.

It isn't 100% fatal though.  The H-Vamps are the ones that have been infected, but survived.

Wild guessing here but Bill acted like it was a death sentence when that guy tried to trick him into drinking from him. I remember correctly Sookie stopped him because he thought something about killing Bill with this blood. This was when Sookie and the audience learned about the problem.

And I'm sure it's like everything else, the older the vamp the longer it can last.

No, Jerry (the trickster) had Hep-D, which as Bill explained only makes vamps weak for about a month and the main worry is other vamps staking them while they are weak.

The governor hired scientists to modify Hep-D into Hep-V to poison the TruBlood. Hep-V is much more deadly, as we saw with Nora. However, once Hep-V made it out into the general population of humans and vampires, the newscast said that it had mutated and makes vamps sick, weak, and needing more and more, way more than normal, amounts of blood to stay alive (hence why they are eating entire small towns), and takes a lot longer to kill them. The newscast said that one-eighth of the world population of vampires is infected, and more and more humans (as we learned in Morocco) are carriers.


I stand corrected.
 
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