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(Mental Floss)   Spike Lee's 1989 masterpiece "Do the Right Thing" turns 25 this week. Still a fresh and relevant snapshot of a racially charged era. "Yo, Radio Raheem"   (mentalfloss.com) divider line 73
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2014-06-22 08:51:25 AM  
Ah, the late 80s. Do the Right Thing, Menace II Society, New Jack City. You could pop a cap at a movie screen without getting so much shiat about it.
 
2014-06-22 09:23:51 AM  
Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?
 
2014-06-22 09:32:35 AM  
Mookie: You garlic breath, pizza slinging, spaghetti bending, Vic Damone, Perry Como, Luciano Pavarotti, Sole Mio, non-singing motherfarker.

Pino: You gold teeth, gold chain wearing, fried chicken and biscuit eating, monkey, ape, baboon, big thigh, fast running, high jumping, spear chucking, three-hundred-and-sixty-degree basketball dunking, titsun, spade, Moulan Yan. Take your farking pizza-pizza and go the fark back to Africa.

Stevie: You little slanty eyed, me-no-speaky-American, own-every-fruit-and-vegetable-stand-in-New-York, bullshiat, Reverend Sun Myung Moon, Summer Olympics '88, Korean kickboxing son-of-a-biatch.

Officer Long: You Goya bean eating, fifteen-in-a-car, thirty-in-an-apartment, pointed shoes, red wearing, Menudo, meda-meda Puerto Rican cocksucker. Yeah, you!

Sonny: It's cheap, I got a good price for you, Mayor Koch, how-I'm-doing, chocolate egg cream drinking, bagel and lox, B'nai B'rith Jew asshole.

Mister Señor Love Daddy: Yo! Hold up! Time out! Time out! Y'all take a chill! Ya need to cool that shiat out! And that's the double truth, Ruth!
_____

Classic.
 
2014-06-22 10:29:08 AM  
Great movie. Still want to get with Rosie Perez.
 
2014-06-22 10:35:19 AM  
I want you to go down to the store and get The Mayor a quart of Miller High Life...
 
2014-06-22 10:48:35 AM  
BREAKING NEWS: Everything created in 1989 turns 25 this year.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Abyss
The Little Mermaid
Honey I Shrunk the Kids
Dead Poets Society
Back to the Future II
Driving Miss Daisy
Glory
 
2014-06-22 10:49:53 AM  
It's starting to look like that was the one great movie Spike Lee had in him.
 
2014-06-22 11:00:13 AM  

Corn_Fed: BREAKING NEWS: Everything created in 1989 turns 25 this year.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Abyss
The Little Mermaid
Honey I Shrunk the Kids
Dead Poets Society
Back to the Future II
Driving Miss Daisy
Glory


Sean Connery was still able to scare off birds with an umbrella back then.
 
2014-06-22 11:07:08 AM  

lindalouwho: What happened to you?


He became a racist asshole. Kind of ironic when you think of it.
 
2014-06-22 11:09:59 AM  

lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?


It is indeed a great film, but it shows even at the start or his career he couldn't come up with good endings for his films.
 
2014-06-22 11:14:07 AM  
Fantastic flick and arguably the best of Spike Lee's filmography (Inside Man is a VERY strong contender as well). Standout performances from Danny Aiello and Giancarlo Esposito.

"Fight The Power" is going to be playing in my mind all day-NTTAWWT.
 
2014-06-22 11:22:03 AM  
How come in every rib joint run by black people, I see not ONE SINGLE photo of any Italians??
 
2014-06-22 11:23:20 AM  
Stupid Floppy Clownshoes:

Sean Connery was still able to scare off birds with an umbrella back then.

Now he scares off Girl Scouts by answering the door in his bathrobe.
 
2014-06-22 11:26:35 AM  

bigpeeler: Mookie: You garlic breath, pizza slinging, spaghetti bending, Vic Damone, Perry Como, Luciano Pavarotti, Sole Mio, non-singing motherfarker.

Pino: You gold teeth, gold chain wearing, fried chicken and biscuit eating, monkey, ape, baboon, big thigh, fast running, high jumping, spear chucking, three-hundred-and-sixty-degree basketball dunking, titsun, spade, Moulan Yan. Take your farking pizza-pizza and go the fark back to Africa.

Stevie: You little slanty eyed, me-no-speaky-American, own-every-fruit-and-vegetable-stand-in-New-York, bullshiat, Reverend Sun Myung Moon, Summer Olympics '88, Korean kickboxing son-of-a-biatch.

Officer Long: You Goya bean eating, fifteen-in-a-car, thirty-in-an-apartment, pointed shoes, red wearing, Menudo, meda-meda Puerto Rican cocksucker. Yeah, you!

Sonny: It's cheap, I got a good price for you, Mayor Koch, how-I'm-doing, chocolate egg cream drinking, bagel and lox, B'nai B'rith Jew asshole.

Mister Señor Love Daddy: Yo! Hold up! Time out! Time out! Y'all take a chill! Ya need to cool that shiat out! And that's the double truth, Ruth!
_____

Classic.


You left out the best character...Sweet Dick Willie.


Sweet Dick Willie: It ain't never too hot or never too cold for farkin'!

It's been the same warning since Thespis stepped out on stage--ignore the Greek chorus at your peril.
 
2014-06-22 11:30:59 AM  

Stupid Floppy Clownshoes: Great movie. Still want to get with Rosie Perez.


Buy her an ISOOOZOO TROOPAH and she might let ya'!
 
2014-06-22 11:34:15 AM  
You know, I was never a fan. I mean, I've seen his movies. So ... yeah.

/Woody Allen, too
//pointless post is pointless
 
2014-06-22 11:41:14 AM  

lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?


He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.
 
2014-06-22 11:43:04 AM  
 
2014-06-22 11:49:26 AM  

Flappyhead: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.


Lots of great films didn't win Oscars. There are only so many to hand out.
 
2014-06-22 12:22:05 PM  

lindalouwho: Flappyhead: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.

Lots of great films didn't win Oscars. There are only so many to hand out.



CSB:

A friend of mine went to Whittier College back in the late 80s/early 90s.  One day, Spike Lee visited the campus as a guest speaker, where he complained and said that there needed to be a special movie awards event for black people.

During the Q&A, my friend asked him "What if white people wanted to create their own awards ceremony?"

"They have," Spike said.  "It's called 'The Oscars'."

/Bitter much, Spike?
 
2014-06-22 12:25:40 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

It is indeed a great film, but it shows even at the start or his career he couldn't come up with good endings for his films.


From TFA: "Lee wanted to open with a Malcolm X quote and Mookie (played by Lee himself) shouting "Howard Beach!" as he threw a garbage can through the window of Sal's Famous Pizzeria."

Looks like he started with the ending
 
2014-06-22 12:42:50 PM  
Still amazed that Giancarlo Esposito went from playing Buggin' Out to playing probably one of the best villains in any medium, Breaking Bad's Gus Fring. That movie had such a great cast. And the whole movie took place mainly on one location, Sal's Pizzeria.
 
2014-06-22 12:48:15 PM  

The_Sponge: lindalouwho: Flappyhead: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.

Lots of great films didn't win Oscars. There are only so many to hand out.


CSB:

A friend of mine went to Whittier College back in the late 80s/early 90s.  One day, Spike Lee visited the campus as a guest speaker, where he complained and said that there needed to be a special movie awards event for black people.

During the Q&A, my friend asked him "What if white people wanted to create their own awards ceremony?"

"They have," Spike said.  "It's called 'The Oscars'."

/Bitter much, Spike?


Which is why I think him not getting one was probably good in the long run.  If he's this bad now, imagine how out of control his ego would be if he'd gotten a statue.
 
2014-06-22 12:48:39 PM  
It was no "She's Gotta Have It"
 
2014-06-22 01:00:05 PM  
Overrated student-level film. He's the black Kevin Smith.
 
2014-06-22 01:04:11 PM  

ArkAngel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shre74l5GYg


Needs more Rosie Perez
 
2014-06-22 01:06:12 PM  

Flappyhead: Which is why I think him not getting one was probably good in the long run. If he's this bad now, imagine how out of control his ego would be if he'd gotten a statue.



Truth.
 
2014-06-22 01:34:34 PM  
Twenty-five years later I'm still wondering why Mookie threw that trashcan through the window.
 
2014-06-22 01:38:39 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Twenty-five years later I'm still wondering why Mookie threw that trashcan through the window.


Dude. That's the entire point of the movie!

I watched it sitting on the floor of a sold-out theater in rural Madison, Florida. I was the only white person in attendance.

It was a unique experience. And god a great movie.

And really, if you ask WHY Mookie threw the trashcan, what do you think you were watching the other 2 hours?
 
2014-06-22 01:40:46 PM  
Never saw it. Just assumed it was a typical "white people bad/everyone else good" pile of crap. I'm probably wrong.
 
2014-06-22 01:47:11 PM  

Confabulat: And really, if you ask WHY Mookie threw the trashcan, what do you think you were watching the other 2 hours?


I haven't seen it in fifteen or so years now, so I probably missed some deeper meaning because of my white bread upbringing. At the time I thought something like, "The system's rigged against you and you destroy the only place that has shown you any respect?" It was like the LA Riots to me in a sense. Yeah, it sucks out there being black in America, but why destroy your own neighborhood in protest? Go destroy somebody else's.
 
2014-06-22 01:52:04 PM  

The_Sponge: lindalouwho: Flappyhead: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.

Lots of great films didn't win Oscars. There are only so many to hand out.


CSB:

A friend of mine went to Whittier College back in the late 80s/early 90s.  One day, Spike Lee visited the campus as a guest speaker, where he complained and said that there needed to be a special movie awards event for black people.

During the Q&A, my friend asked him "What if white people wanted to create their own awards ceremony?"

"They have," Spike said.  "It's called 'The Oscars'."

/Bitter much, Spike?


Bitter and perpetually angry.

That's right Spike, disrespect all the black actors who've won Oscars.

And while you're at it, pretend these awards don't exist - off the top of my head: The BET Awards, The NAACP Image Awards, The Spirit Awards (gospel songs that may have been in movies).

Did you see him get slammed with memes a few months ago? He was raging about Brooklyn's gentrification and slammed what the white hipsters wear - of course the internet found every pic of him where he's dressed the same way.
 
2014-06-22 02:01:14 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Twenty-five years later I'm still wondering why Mookie threw that trashcan through the window.


It's what they do. Are you trying to steal their cultural identity? Bed Stuy. When Spike was living at 165 Washington Park, any mutherfarker could throw any damn thing they wanted through a window. Now, an influx of White New Yorkers, and you try to throw a trash can through a window, and the police are on it, man. Like white on farking rice.

Police wouldn't even come to Bed Stuy before, and now they're all up in there, making rules and stopping the people who have lived there for twenty five farking years from expressing themselves. It's like prison, man. When you see white mothers pushing their babies in strollers, three o'clock in the morning on 125th Street, that must tell you something. Back in the day, she'd get home with a busted eye and a new one in the oven. She just got what she advertised for. And now they say that's wrong. shiat's like Chris Columbus - all pretty and pink, and white men in dresses with some kind of funny accent. Don't bring that shiat into the hood - we don't need that. Just get the fark out and send those babycoach mommas in every few weekends, so we can adjust your demographics.
 
2014-06-22 02:13:43 PM  
I hated it. My judgement may have been clouded by the fact that a few years earlier I'd worked in a cafe at the time that kids would bring in massive beatboxes and play Street Sounds compilations at high volumes. Telling them to turn it off or get out and being sworn at got boring pretty fast.

I don't think dealing with that justifies the death of a man now, but Radio Raheem was still a prick.
 
2014-06-22 02:16:28 PM  

Corn_Fed: BREAKING NEWS: Everything created in 1989 turns 25 this year.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Abyss
The Little Mermaid
Honey I Shrunk the Kids
Dead Poets Society
Back to the Future II
Driving Miss Daisy
Glory



that's your list of films from 89 to care about?

wow.  puke.
 
2014-06-22 02:18:18 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Confabulat: And really, if you ask WHY Mookie threw the trashcan, what do you think you were watching the other 2 hours?

I haven't seen it in fifteen or so years now, so I probably missed some deeper meaning because of my white bread upbringing. At the time I thought something like, "The system's rigged against you and you destroy the only place that has shown you any respect?" It was like the LA Riots to me in a sense. Yeah, it sucks out there being black in America, but why destroy your own neighborhood in protest? Go destroy somebody else's.


See, Mookie is a decent guy. He's our protagonist, after all, and for the most part he just likes to mind his own business, more or less do his job, and just try to chill out and enjoy life. But shiat keeps happening to him. When the cops kill Radio Raheem, well something in Mookie just snaps. That's why throws the trashcan. He's not making a statement about society. He's not trying to incite a riot. He's just farkin' fed up and that's all I can think to do.

It's how most all riots start, you know. The social statements come on the TV news hours or days later.
 
2014-06-22 03:30:59 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: You left out the best character...Sweet Dick Willie.


"Everybody knows why thay call me Sweet Dick Willie!"
 
2014-06-22 03:44:05 PM  

farkeruk: I hated it. My judgement may have been clouded by the fact that a few years earlier I'd worked in a cafe at the time that kids would bring in massive beatboxes and play Street Sounds compilations at high volumes. Telling them to turn it off or get out and being sworn at got boring pretty fast.

I don't think dealing with that justifies the death of a man now, but Radio Raheem was still a prick.


This.

Not that he deserved to die at the hands of the obviously racist cops (that could be argued as well- in the beginning of the movie, they kind of defend the folks of the 'hood by telling the EYEtalian dude in the soaked convertable to basically take a walk...), but I HATED that character. He was a bully- plain and simple.
 
2014-06-22 04:25:21 PM  

The_Sponge: lindalouwho: Flappyhead: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.

Lots of great films didn't win Oscars. There are only so many to hand out.


CSB:

A friend of mine went to Whittier College back in the late 80s/early 90s.  One day, Spike Lee visited the campus as a guest speaker, where he complained and said that there needed to be a special movie awards event for black people.

During the Q&A, my friend asked him "What if white people wanted to create their own awards ceremony?"

"They have," Spike said.  "It's called 'The Oscars'."

/Bitter much, Spike?


How is that bitter?  I guess you and your friend didn't get the lesson.  It wasn't that long ago when blacks weren't even allowed to attend.

Instead, why didn't your friend mention the NAACP Image awards as a counterpoint?  And why didnt *you* mention the NAACP Image awards as a counterpoint?
 
2014-06-22 04:44:53 PM  

lindalouwho: The_Sponge: lindalouwho: Flappyhead: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.

Lots of great films didn't win Oscars. There are only so many to hand out.


CSB:

A friend of mine went to Whittier College back in the late 80s/early 90s.  One day, Spike Lee visited the campus as a guest speaker, where he complained and said that there needed to be a special movie awards event for black people.

During the Q&A, my friend asked him "What if white people wanted to create their own awards ceremony?"

"They have," Spike said.  "It's called 'The Oscars'."

/Bitter much, Spike?

Bitter and perpetually angry.

That's right Spike, disrespect all the black actors who've won Oscars.

And while you're at it, pretend these awards don't exist - off the top of my head: The BET Awards, The NAACP Image Awards, The Spirit Awards (gospel songs that may have been in movies).

Did you see him get slammed with memes a few months ago? He was raging about Brooklyn's gentrification and slammed what the white hipsters wear - of course the internet found every pic of him where he's dressed the same way.


The NAACP Image Awards were established in 1967.  It would have been an acceptable answer, but only in saying that 'things are changing'.  The reason why they were established in the first place underscores Lee's point, but TheSponge's 'friend' had no interest in enlightenment because he had none to give himself, --only discomfort in being asked to consider the world outside himself masked as bravado.

The BET Awards (2000 or 2001ish) only exist because the Source Awards disintegrated into people-taking-studio-gangsterism-too-seriously.  The Source Awards (mid1990s or 2000ish) only existed because rap and hip hop were being (and still are being) ignored by the Grammys, in spite of how much money rap and hip hop pull in and how big rap and hip hop chart, in order to truly celebrate the same old baby boomer dinosaurs years after irrelevance has set in.  Neither one is a film award.

The Spirit Awards -- you mention the independent  film awards, but only to specify the 'black' genre of gospel music (which has nothing to do with black film, though it can exist in film), not the existence of independent black films; and not as a counterpoint that there were outfits out there already celebrating the best of black filmmaking as the best without any strings attached.  Why?  (I know, I know, the people on the list by the time of this college conversation had their own issues dealing with Hollywood in spite of being the 'right' color ...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Spirit_Award_for_Best_Film   ... and in spite of being critically acclaimed in their own right in many cases, but that's goes into a whole nother issue which bears discussing.)


I've been away from Fark for a while now.  You're not one of those Stormfronter Maiden women, are you?  If you are, more power to you.  It takes all types, and I'm one of the few who don't assume people are trolls just because their opinions are different from the loudest or the majority or the favorites.  It just helps to know where you are coming from.
 
2014-06-22 04:45:55 PM  

lindalouwho: The_Sponge: lindalouwho: Flappyhead: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.

Lots of great films didn't win Oscars. There are only so many to hand out.


CSB:

A friend of mine went to Whittier College back in the late 80s/early 90s.  One day, Spike Lee visited the campus as a guest speaker, where he complained and said that there needed to be a special movie awards event for black people.

During the Q&A, my friend asked him "What if white people wanted to create their own awards ceremony?"

"They have," Spike said.  "It's called 'The Oscars'."

/Bitter much, Spike?

Bitter and perpetually angry.

That's right Spike, disrespect all the black actors who've won Oscars.

And while you're at it, pretend these awards don't exist - off the top of my head: The BET Awards, The NAACP Image Awards, The Spirit Awards (gospel songs that may have been in movies).

Did you see him get slammed with memes a few months ago? He was raging about Brooklyn's gentrification and slammed what the white hipsters wear - of course the internet found every pic of him where he's dressed the same way.


The internet sure is making it alot harder for someone to be able to shoot their mouth off and not be called on it. Spike lee movies are pretty much just crap anyways. Though I have not seen this movie from start to finish.
 
2014-06-22 04:48:52 PM  
What always weirded me out about Do The Right Thing is white people STILL need it to be explained to them.
 
2014-06-22 04:52:44 PM  

farkeruk: I hated it. My judgement may have been clouded by the fact that a few years earlier I'd worked in a cafe at the time that kids would bring in massive beatboxes and play Street Sounds compilations at high volumes. Telling them to turn it off or get out and being sworn at got boring pretty fast.

I don't think dealing with that justifies the death of a man now, but Radio Raheem was still a prick.


That is rude.  However, a solution would have been putting a door sign up that boomboxes were forbidden on tables, and then providing sufficiently large lockers to put their radios in, and then putting up a sign that establishment is not responsible for theft.

And then putting a jukebox in to make money off the kids playing the records they want to hear, at a volume you control.    All of that takes money, and I don't know what the margin of profit was for your cafe's owner; but it was enough of one that the tradeoff of pissing off your customer base was enough for the owner not to do anything real to turn people away except stress out his employees.

It's not the best solution, but it would have been a solution.
 
2014-06-22 04:57:43 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: lindalouwho: The_Sponge: lindalouwho: Flappyhead: lindalouwho: Such a great film, Spike.
What happened to you?

He didn't win an Oscar for it.  In retrospect though that's probably a good thing.

Lots of great films didn't win Oscars. There are only so many to hand out.


CSB:

A friend of mine went to Whittier College back in the late 80s/early 90s.  One day, Spike Lee visited the campus as a guest speaker, where he complained and said that there needed to be a special movie awards event for black people.

During the Q&A, my friend asked him "What if white people wanted to create their own awards ceremony?"

"They have," Spike said.  "It's called 'The Oscars'."

/Bitter much, Spike?

Bitter and perpetually angry.

That's right Spike, disrespect all the black actors who've won Oscars.

And while you're at it, pretend these awards don't exist - off the top of my head: The BET Awards, The NAACP Image Awards, The Spirit Awards (gospel songs that may have been in movies).

Did you see him get slammed with memes a few months ago? He was raging about Brooklyn's gentrification and slammed what the white hipsters wear - of course the internet found every pic of him where he's dressed the same way.

The NAACP Image Awards were established in 1967.  It would have been an acceptable answer, but only in saying that 'things are changing'.  The reason why they were established in the first place underscores Lee's point, but TheSponge's 'friend' had no interest in enlightenment because he had none to give himself, --only discomfort in being asked to consider the world outside himself masked as bravado.

The BET Awards (2000 or 2001ish) only exist because the Source Awards disintegrated into people-taking-studio-gangsterism-too-seriously.  The Source Awards (mid1990s or 2000ish) only existed because rap and hip hop were being (and still are being) ignored by the Grammys, in spite of how much money rap and hip hop pull in and how big rap and hip hop chart, in order to truly celebrate the same old baby boomer dinosaurs years after irrelevance has set in.  Neither one is a film award.

The Spirit Awards -- you mention the independent  film awards, but only to specify the 'black' genre of gospel music (which has nothing to do with black film, though it can exist in film), not the existence of independent black films; and not as a counterpoint that there were outfits out there already celebrating the best of black filmmaking as the best without any strings attached.  Why?  (I know, I know, the people on the list by the time of this college conversation had their own issues dealing with Hollywood in spite of being the 'right' color ...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Spirit_Award_for_Best_Film   ... and in spite of being critically acclaimed in their own right in many cases, but that's goes into a whole nother issue which bears discussing.)


I've been away from Fark for a while now.  You're not one of those Stormfronter Maiden women, are you?  If you are, more power to you.  It takes all types, and I'm one of the few who don't assume people are trolls just because their opinions are different from the loudest or the majority or the favorites.  It just helps to know where you are coming from.


I'M not trolling.
Also not in need of a history lesson thankyouverymuch.

Good day, sir.
 
2014-06-22 04:58:25 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Confabulat: And really, if you ask WHY Mookie threw the trashcan, what do you think you were watching the other 2 hours?

I haven't seen it in fifteen or so years now, so I probably missed some deeper meaning because of my white bread upbringing. At the time I thought something like, "The system's rigged against you and you destroy the only place that has shown you any respect?" It was like the LA Riots to me in a sense. Yeah, it sucks out there being black in America, but why destroy your own neighborhood in protest? Go destroy somebody else's.


The establishment wasn't showing respect.  That was part of the point.  I know why he used Italians instead of Jews.  The various points about immigrant assimilation using blacks as a stepping stone before 'moving up', and what happens to their children who toedip and then also assimilate, are still valid.

Mookie leading a riot didn't resolve anything, but that was also part of a point.
 
2014-06-22 05:07:06 PM  
lindalouwho: I'M not trolling.
Also not in need of a history lesson thankyouverymuch.

Good day, sir.



I wasn't accusing you of trolling. I was asking if you were a Stormfront Maiden, or something else.  Your truth is yours.  I was curious as to where your truth was rooted.

I'm not sure why you would be offended by a history lesson.  You attempted earlier to give not one but several, yourself, when you wrote,  "Bitter and perpetually angry. That's right Spike, disrespect all the black actors who've won Oscars. And while you're at it, pretend these awards don't exist - off the top of my head: The BET Awards, The NAACP Image Awards, The Spirit Awards (gospel songs that may have been in movies). Did you see him get slammed with memes a few months ago? He was raging about Brooklyn's gentrification and slammed what the white hipsters wear - of course the internet found every pic of him where he's dressed the same way."

I wished to provide a counterpoint as to why what you came up with off the top of your head might not be the best examples to use to counter Spike Lee's point, in 1989, regarding the Oscars recognizing works which are non-white, and specially black.

If you're more comfortable with one-sided conversations, again, more power to you.  Again, I've been away for a while, and I would prefer not to waste your time or mine in continuing something now or in the future with you if that's not what you're here for.
 
2014-06-22 05:07:58 PM  

Confabulat: What always weirded me out about Do The Right Thing is white people STILL need it to be explained to them.


word

/saw in the theater when it came out... Two times
//stay black
///boycott the barber that done farked up your head!
 
2014-06-22 05:12:48 PM  

Confabulat: What always weirded me out about Do The Right Thing is white people STILL need it to be explained to them.


It's not just white people who need it explained to them.  There's a lot going on in that movie, and just confining it to 'white and black' misses the points that come with expanding it to 'immigrant versus native'.  The film school heads -- of which you may be one, I don't know -- could expand upon the other points contained in it.

No one is pure in that movie, no one is absolutely in the right, and no one is absolutely in the wrong.  Everyone has a point, and the movie ends with a death and nothing changing except for the worse.  Was it really so hard to put up a photo?  Was it really so hard to listen to one another, instead of use one another or attempt to fark one another?
 
2014-06-22 05:22:31 PM  

Confabulat: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Confabulat: And really, if you ask WHY Mookie threw the trashcan, what do you think you were watching the other 2 hours?

I haven't seen it in fifteen or so years now, so I probably missed some deeper meaning because of my white bread upbringing. At the time I thought something like, "The system's rigged against you and you destroy the only place that has shown you any respect?" It was like the LA Riots to me in a sense. Yeah, it sucks out there being black in America, but why destroy your own neighborhood in protest? Go destroy somebody else's.

See, Mookie is a decent guy. He's our protagonist, after all, and for the most part he just likes to mind his own business, more or less do his job, and just try to chill out and enjoy life. But shiat keeps happening to him. When the cops kill Radio Raheem, well something in Mookie just snaps. That's why throws the trashcan. He's not making a statement about society. He's not trying to incite a riot. He's just farkin' fed up and that's all I can think to do.

It's how most all riots start, you know. The social statements come on the TV news hours or days later.


My take on it was that he realized there was a riot about to start, so instead of letting it spill out into the rest of the neighborhood, he threw the trashcan at the one place that could be spared because it could be rebuilt - letting out his anger and frustration and giving the mob something to destroy instead of going after the cops.
 
2014-06-22 05:54:41 PM  

Thosw: Confabulat: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Confabulat: And really, if you ask WHY Mookie threw the trashcan, what do you think you were watching the other 2 hours?

I haven't seen it in fifteen or so years now, so I probably missed some deeper meaning because of my white bread upbringing. At the time I thought something like, "The system's rigged against you and you destroy the only place that has shown you any respect?" It was like the LA Riots to me in a sense. Yeah, it sucks out there being black in America, but why destroy your own neighborhood in protest? Go destroy somebody else's.

See, Mookie is a decent guy. He's our protagonist, after all, and for the most part he just likes to mind his own business, more or less do his job, and just try to chill out and enjoy life. But shiat keeps happening to him. When the cops kill Radio Raheem, well something in Mookie just snaps. That's why throws the trashcan. He's not making a statement about society. He's not trying to incite a riot. He's just farkin' fed up and that's all I can think to do.

It's how most all riots start, you know. The social statements come on the TV news hours or days later.

My take on it was that he realized there was a riot about to start, so instead of letting it spill out into the rest of the neighborhood, he threw the trashcan at the one place that could be spared because it could be rebuilt - letting out his anger and frustration and giving the mob something to destroy instead of going after the cops.


For the most part, I thought that, but I also thought he did it to deflect the mob's attention away from Sal and his sons. There was already no love lost between the neighborhood and Pino, and after Raheem's death, the neighborhood wanted a pound of flesh.
 
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