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(Post-Periodical)   High school softball coach fired for drinking beer. At a party. Over a year ago   (postperiodical.com) divider line 106
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2014-06-22 08:11:21 AM  
Disgruntled parents followed him around trying to get a picture of him with alcohol. Hit paydirt.

Their daughter will never see the field for competative play again. Nice going$
 
2014-06-22 08:25:31 AM  
Nice life lessons you're teaching your kid there, parental unit.
Now people won't trust your daughter. Win?
 
2014-06-22 08:47:00 AM  
These parents would really clutch their pearls if their snowflakes had my middle school shop teacher who always kept a bottle of Jack Daniel's in the back room
 
2014-06-22 10:03:30 AM  
Loosing season?

/dnrtfa
 
2014-06-22 10:50:55 AM  

schnee: Loosing season?


My guess the parent did not like the coach, lack of playing time for their kid or something similar and this was revenge. My father coached youth baseball for 20 years and should write a book about the lunatic parents and league people.
 
2014-06-22 10:53:11 AM  

schnee: Loosing season?

/dnrtfa


Yakk: My guess the parent did not like the coach, lack of playing time for their kid or something similar and this was revenge. My father coached youth baseball for 20 years and should write a book about the lunatic parents and league people.


According to Creps, the photo was sent to district officials by the parent of a girl who quit the team with several weeks remaining in the season. The coach said her parents were upset by their daughter's lack of starts or playing time.

He claims the disgruntled parent also filmed him while he was having lunch with friends at a restaurant four hours before the team's May 22 playoff game.


FFS it's right there.
 
2014-06-22 10:53:20 AM  
..school district officials.. .

Behold, the species of human with the least intelligence on the planet.
 
2014-06-22 10:55:34 AM  
FTFA:   According to Creps, the photo was sent to district officials by the parent of a girl who quit the team with several weeks remaining in the season. The coach said her parents were upset by their daughter's lack of starts or playing time.

So it's classic "If I/my daughter can't have it, nobody can" type vendetta from a parent.  Somebody should TP egg beer bottle that parent's house.
 
2014-06-22 10:57:54 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: ..school district officials.. .

Behold, the species of human with the least intelligence on the planet.


People who can't teach....go into "managing" those who can, I guess..
 
2014-06-22 10:58:32 AM  
Schools will get rid of you for the simplest reasons.  I too was given a choice of resigning or being fired over something extremely minor and I resigned and told everyone in the room with me to go fark themselves.  I've had a lot less stress in my life ever since and I bet this guy does too.  Trust me coach, you're better off.
 
2014-06-22 11:01:46 AM  
The photograph, which shows him drinking beer from a bottle, was taken in 2012 or 2013 during a party attended by players and their parents...  Creps said Principal Tim Guy and Assistant Principal Margaret Kearns showed him an LAUSD "bulletin" which states alcohol is not allowed at any team function.

So a team function includes a private party at his own residence? How many team members would need to be there, one, two, more than half? What if a neighbor happens to stop by holding a beer, is the couch fired then? Plus, the school has this discretion because they're responsible for the student, in loco parentis, even though the parents are right there?

Creps said he had never seen the bulletin before his termination.

At our work, there are also strict rules against alcohol, and we get everyone's signature on the acknowledgement form on their first day. Some generic printed notice isn't going to cut it.
 
2014-06-22 11:02:03 AM  
Meanwhile, outside of hysterical sharia zones:
cybrog.threethousand.org www.eupedia.com
 
2014-06-22 11:02:30 AM  
Uhm. I'm not from the US. Why was the coach fired?
 
2014-06-22 11:06:19 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Uhm. I'm not from the US. Why was the coach fired?


Because WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?
 
2014-06-22 11:06:21 AM  
Lord we have become a nation of pussies where alcohol is concerned.  Why not just repeal the 21st amendment and bring back the Volstead Act?

He was an adult, drinking a beer, in front of both his juvenile team AND the parents of those kids.  Since no one complained at the time, I'm going to assume that he was drinking in moderation in front of (and possibly with) those parents.  Shouldn't this be the example we are supposed to set in front of kids who will very soon be able to drink legally themselves?

Oh, sorry, that would make sense.
 
2014-06-22 11:08:49 AM  
" Creps was called into the principal's office and administered a field sobriety test by a school police officer "


Wow, just wow.  I don't know which is scarier, the cop, the test (was this in his employment contract), or the lack of judicial process.
 
2014-06-22 11:09:42 AM  
*"coach", not couch, although that couch should have been fired too, always lazing about.
 
2014-06-22 11:11:22 AM  
The punishment doesn't fit the crime.  It's not like the guy was seen smoking a cigarette.
 
2014-06-22 11:11:28 AM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: FFS it's right there.


I will SUE you for my right to not RTFA!

/My gramps fought in a war so I could not RTFA...
 
2014-06-22 11:15:52 AM  

TomD9938: The punishment doesn't fit the crime.  It's not like the guy was seen smoking a cigarette.


No if he was caught smoking a cigarette he would have still been fired, only instead it would have been out of a cannon into the sun.
 
2014-06-22 11:16:24 AM  
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2014-06-22 11:17:48 AM  

LordJiro: Coming on a Bicycle: Uhm. I'm not from the US. Why was the coach fired?

Because WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?


You can't drink alcohol in front of children?
 
2014-06-22 11:21:21 AM  
Hell hath no fury than a helicopter parent scorned.....
 
2014-06-22 11:22:45 AM  
And we trust the people that made this decision to guide the children of our world.  Thankfully I'm too old to be around when they are making decisions.
 
2014-06-22 11:23:02 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: LordJiro: Coming on a Bicycle: Uhm. I'm not from the US. Why was the coach fired?

Because WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?

You can't drink alcohol in front of children?


You can't do anything in front of children. Especially things. Things can lead to dancing.
 
2014-06-22 11:23:13 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: LordJiro: Coming on a Bicycle: Uhm. I'm not from the US. Why was the coach fired?

Because WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?

You can't drink alcohol in front of children?


School says you can't drink at a school function.  I hope the staff keep this in mind at the christmas party, any off-site training or while grading home work at home.
 
2014-06-22 11:25:06 AM  
I can see it if he was drinking Coors
 
2014-06-22 11:25:09 AM  
I thought most farkers would be supportive of firing someone for drinking beer straight out of a bottle.  Those kids are going to grow up thinking that is OK.
 
2014-06-22 11:26:52 AM  
At least they released enough information so they know who it was and can be shunned throughout town.
 
2014-06-22 11:32:25 AM  
At least he wasn't ass farking any of them.
 
2014-06-22 11:33:45 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: LordJiro: Coming on a Bicycle: Uhm. I'm not from the US. Why was the coach fired?

Because WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?

You can't drink alcohol in front of children?


Right now America is drunker than shiat on 'protecting' children. If you are in a position of authority over children you must be an anti alcohol, anti drug, anti gun teetotaler. Anything else is a 'bad influence' on children that makes you unfit for the job.

The proper course of action is to keep them from being exposed to absolutely any alcohol until they are 21, so they can hopefully have their first experience when there is no role model around to watch over them. At that point they can happily emulate the binge drinking of their peers.

Thank god we shamed their parents into abstaining from any reasonable consumption while the kids grew up though, right?
 
2014-06-22 11:36:06 AM  

Apos: Hell hath no fury than a helicopter parent scorned.....


The busiest of busy bodies
 
2014-06-22 11:39:41 AM  

Glancing Blow: " Creps was called into the principal's office and administered a field sobriety test by a school police officer "


Wow, just wow.  I don't know which is scarier, the cop, the test (was this in his employment contract), or the lack of judicial process.


What judicial process? I could administer a field sobriety test to you, right now.  My boss could do so at any point in time (Texas is an at will state mind, this pertains to me) and fire me because I PASSED if he wanted to.  There's no judicial process involved here. It wasn't court ordered, it just had the school nanny administer to have some trappings of competence so the school board could say 'we had someone (cough) 'qualified' (cough) administer the test since these parents were already raising enough shiat to get one coach fired for obviously bullshiat reasons.  Hell, it takes a minute or two to do the field test, and if you have a blow test it's literally 10 seconds.

Since he wasn't drunk at his job, he gets to keep benefits, and can be employed elsewhere without issue I'd imagine (or with as little issue as it would take to get another job after coaching at a school and being fired), rather than if he had been fired for being drunk. And there can't be any suggestion that he was otherwise, because they tested and documented.

Being in his contract or not is rather irrelevant, since they have a policy of no booze at a school function and the administrators decided to classify this party as a school function.  The alcohol test may be standard operating procedure when dealing with alcohol related firings (it usually is).  Frankly I'd be surprised if they didn't also tell him to go to rehab/counseling/etc. since that's also part of the standard fired-for-alcohol package.
 
2014-06-22 11:47:55 AM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: schnee: Loosing season?

/dnrtfa

Yakk: My guess the parent did not like the coach, lack of playing time for their kid or something similar and this was revenge. My father coached youth baseball for 20 years and should write a book about the lunatic parents and league people.

According to Creps, the photo was sent to district officials by the parent of a girl who quit the team with several weeks remaining in the season. The coach said her parents were upset by their daughter's lack of starts or playing time.

He claims the disgruntled parent also filmed him while he was having lunch with friends at a restaurant four hours before the team's May 22 playoff game.

FFS it's right there.


Clicking the link is cheating.
 
2014-06-22 11:50:13 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: People who can't teach....go into "managing" those who can, I guess..


No, no, no.  Those who can't do, teach.  Those who can't teach, teach gym.  Those who can't teach gym, counsel.  Those who can't counsel, work for the school district.
 
2014-06-22 11:53:50 AM  

twistofsin: Coming on a Bicycle: LordJiro: Coming on a Bicycle: Uhm. I'm not from the US. Why was the coach fired?

Because WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?

You can't drink alcohol in front of children?

Right now America is drunker than shiat on 'protecting' children. If you are in a position of authority over children you must be an anti alcohol, anti drug, anti gun teetotaler. Anything else is a 'bad influence' on children that makes you unfit for the job.

The proper course of action is to keep them from being exposed to absolutely any alcohol until they are 21, so they can hopefully have their first experience when there is no role model around to watch over them. At that point they can happily emulate the binge drinking of their peers.

Thank god we shamed their parents into abstaining from any reasonable consumption while the kids grew up though, right?


YES. I think children should grow up seeing adults drinking responsibly. I have an alcoholic in my family, so when I was a kid, I thought it was totally normal to consume scotch by the pint glass and pass out drunk by 6 pm. I wish I was joking. I didn't learn about responsible drinking until I was in college, from my boyfriend, who despite being a college student was incredibly mature about his alcohol consumption. Thankfully I had him to set me straight, but if I didn't, I might have ended up with a serious problem.

If and when I have kids, I will most certainly let them see me drinking ONE beer with dinner every now and then. They need to see that one can enjoy an alcoholic beverage with a meal, rather than exclusively use alcohol as a means of intoxication.
 
2014-06-22 11:54:10 AM  

beefoe: I thought most farkers would be supportive of firing someone for drinking beer straight out of a bottle.  Those kids are going to grow up thinking that is OK.


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2014-06-22 11:56:24 AM  

Snooki Punch: YES. I think children should grow up seeing adults drinking responsibly. I have an alcoholic in my family, so when I was a kid, I thought it was totally normal to consume scotch by the pint glass and pass out drunk by 6 pm. I wish I was joking. I didn't learn about responsible drinking until I was in college, from my boyfriend, who despite being a college student was incredibly mature about his alcohol consumption. Thankfully I had him to set me straight, but if I didn't, I might have ended up with a serious problem.

If and when I have kids, I will most certainly let them see me drinking ONE beer with dinner every now and then. They need to see that one can enjoy an alcoholic beverage with a meal, rather than exclusively use alcohol as a means of intoxication.


On the other hand, I grew up around very responsible drinkers who always taught me to drink responsibly, and now I am an alcoholic.
 
2014-06-22 11:56:58 AM  
The Chatsworth High School head softball coach was fired last week after a parent sent school district officials a photograph of him drinking beer at a team bonding party.

Someones snowflake didn't get to play as much as the parent wanted.
 
2014-06-22 11:57:31 AM  
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2014-06-22 11:58:35 AM  

Yakk: schnee: Loosing season?

My guess the parent did not like the coach, lack of playing time for their kid or something similar and this was revenge. My father coached youth baseball for 20 years and should write a book about the lunatic parents and league people.


I worked with AYSO as a couch and a referee, they have some of the better rules for crazy soccer moms. every kids plays in every game. it you cause a problem or lay hands on a official there is a lifetime ban. this tends to calm things down a bit.
 
2014-06-22 12:05:57 PM  
The photo is from 2012 or 2013. If they can not pin down the exact date, how can they prove that he had been informed of the guidelines before the activity took place, and how can they really prove that it was a school function itself? There would definitely be a wrongful dismissal case going on.

I would also sue the parent for stalking and non-lawful recording or some such shiat, but I am a vindictive bastard.
 
2014-06-22 12:11:01 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Day_Old_Dutchie: ..school district officials.. .

Behold, the species of human with the least intelligence on the planet.

People who can't teach....go into "managing" those who can, I guess..


Those that cannot do, teach.
Those that cannot teach, teach gym.
Those that cannot teach gym, become administrators.
 
2014-06-22 12:14:41 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: Meanwhile, outside of hysterical sharia zones:
 


It's even better than that. The UK has an age to buy alcohol, and fairly strictly enforced, but you can drink at any age.If you want to give a beer to your ten year old child then go ahead. No one will care. If your ten year old kid takes a beer from the fridge then again no law broken.

/I think there is an effective lower limit, but it's six or something.
 
2014-06-22 12:19:19 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Forbidden Doughnut: Day_Old_Dutchie: ..school district officials.. .

Behold, the species of human with the least intelligence on the planet.

People who can't teach....go into "managing" those who can, I guess..

Those that cannot do, teach.
Those that cannot teach, teach gym.
Those that cannot teach gym, become administrators.


Those who say this can't teach. It is seriously one of my pet peeves this line of reasoning. Most college teachers I have had, worked in the field as part of the professions I was being taught for. My High school Electronics/Computers teacher was teaching because he was bored in early retirement. There is a decade of specialized learning that goes into being a teacher. Sure some suck, but same can be said for any profession.
 
2014-06-22 12:19:21 PM  

kroonermanblack: Frankly I'd be surprised if they didn't also tell him to go to rehab/counseling/etc. since that's also part of the standard fired-for-alcohol package.


How so?  If they have already fired me, they can't tell me to do shiat.  Now if its just probation or some type of punishment, but I still get to stay employed, I could understand.
 
TWX
2014-06-22 12:20:29 PM  

Snooki Punch: YES. I think children should grow up seeing adults drinking responsibly. I have an alcoholic in my family, so when I was a kid, I thought it was totally normal to consume scotch by the pint glass and pass out drunk by 6 pm. I wish I was joking. I didn't learn about responsible drinking until I was in college, from my boyfriend, who despite being a college student was incredibly mature about his alcohol consumption. Thankfully I had him to set me straight, but if I didn't, I might have ended up with a serious problem.

If and when I have kids, I will most certainly let them see me drinking ONE beer with dinner every now and then. They need to see that one can enjoy an alcoholic beverage with a meal, rather than exclusively use alcohol as a means of intoxication.


I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. My parents drank a little when I was a kid, but they never got snockered that I'm aware of, and usually it was just Dad enjoying a bottle of Miller after a day's yard work while lounging in the pool or while watching sports on TV in the evenings. Usually he'd have one, sometimes two, and wouldn't particularly do anything during or soon after imbibing either. Occasionally he'd have a beer at a restaurant, but usually only if it was the kind of place that one stays awhile. Mom drank even less than Dad. Now, neither my wife nor I drink terribly much even though we have probably 30 bottles of various hard liquors and a dozen bottles of wine- we perhaps have a drink or two once a month, and even when I was in late teens and early twenties and drank weekly I usually did so until I hit that happy, joyful, contented feeling, without feeling a need to binge drink.

I actually do agree that it in the context that a school or district has rules against drinking in the presence of students at 'events' (since he wouldn't have invited them over if they weren't on that school team), the correct course of action would have been to inform the coach that such a gathering, even at his house, is classified as a school event since he appeared to not know *wink* *wink*, and that in such circumstances he needs to refrain from imbibing in the future while students are in his home. This should not have been a firing offense, especially more than a year out from when it occurred. We have statutes of limitations in law, we should have them in employment law as well, especially for things as inoffensive as this.
 
2014-06-22 12:22:36 PM  

TWX: Snooki Punch: YES. I think children should grow up seeing adults drinking responsibly. I have an alcoholic in my family, so when I was a kid, I thought it was totally normal to consume scotch by the pint glass and pass out drunk by 6 pm. I wish I was joking. I didn't learn about responsible drinking until I was in college, from my boyfriend, who despite being a college student was incredibly mature about his alcohol consumption. Thankfully I had him to set me straight, but if I didn't, I might have ended up with a serious problem.

If and when I have kids, I will most certainly let them see me drinking ONE beer with dinner every now and then. They need to see that one can enjoy an alcoholic beverage with a meal, rather than exclusively use alcohol as a means of intoxication.

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. My parents drank a little when I was a kid, but they never got snockered that I'm aware of, and usually it was just Dad enjoying a bottle of Miller after a day's yard work while lounging in the pool or while watching sports on TV in the evenings. Usually he'd have one, sometimes two, and wouldn't particularly do anything during or soon after imbibing either. Occasionally he'd have a beer at a restaurant, but usually only if it was the kind of place that one stays awhile. Mom drank even less than Dad. Now, neither my wife nor I drink terribly much even though we have probably 30 bottles of various hard liquors and a dozen bottles of wine- we perhaps have a drink or two once a month, and even when I was in late teens and early twenties and drank weekly I usually did so until I hit that happy, joyful, contented feeling, without feeling a need to binge drink.

I actually do agree that it in the context that a school or district has rules against drinking in the presence of students at 'events' (since he wouldn't have invited them over if they weren't on that school team), the correct course of action would have been to inform the coach that such a g ...


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2014-06-22 12:32:52 PM  
So here's how I read this: team member upset that they didnt get to play enough (probably a reason....) then parents get disgruntled and complain about coach drinking when there was nothing innapripriate. Coach loses job and reputation scarred forever....... Yeah that seems fair: wont let my kid play enough? I'm gonna get you fired and destroy your career and reputation..... Dumbass parents these days.
 
2014-06-22 12:34:29 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: schnee: Loosing season?

/dnrtfa

Yakk: My guess the parent did not like the coach, lack of playing time for their kid or something similar and this was revenge. My father coached youth baseball for 20 years and should write a book about the lunatic parents and league people.

According to Creps, the photo was sent to district officials by the parent of a girl who quit the team with several weeks remaining in the season. The coach said her parents were upset by their daughter's lack of starts or playing time.

He claims the disgruntled parent also filmed him while he was having lunch with friends at a restaurant four hours before the team's May 22 playoff game.

FFS it's right there.


FARK: Reading comprehension varies.
 
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