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(Guardian)   The end of the hipster: In 2014 we may have reached "peak beard." Could it be that these flat-white-drinking, flat-cap-wearing douchebags will soon cease to exist?   (theguardian.com) divider line 125
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2014-06-21 11:11:13 PM  
Brooklyn......,.
 
2014-06-21 11:11:25 PM  
Well since "hipster" is almost as overused as "terrorist", I don't think the term is going away.
 
2014-06-21 11:20:48 PM  
Even the fedora-bronies are shaving lately.
 
2014-06-21 11:26:25 PM  

Mugato: Well since "hipster" is almost as overused as "terrorist", I don't think the term is going away.


Aren't hipster economic and cultural terrorists?
 
2014-06-21 11:44:15 PM  
thesearethings.com
 
2014-06-22 12:07:47 AM  
A well-kempt beard or moustache is preferable to the standard neckbeard or terrorist beard.
 
2014-06-22 12:25:00 AM  
I was raised in a time when men did not wear long scraggly beards or have neck tattoos or piercings - unless they were pirates.

#Getoffmylawn
 
2014-06-22 12:37:58 AM  
They're drinking paint now?
 
2014-06-22 12:56:54 AM  
Nah, another style will rise up and take its place, and then they'll be a new set of folks to hate on, for pretty much the same reasons. Because, yeah, some hepcats are just insufferable asshats, and that hasn't changed since coffeehouses became popular in the colonies in the 18th Century and folks talked politics and fashion and art and music, and even those in England further back.

Good luck with that. Styles will change. Continue to change.

vernonFL: I was raised in a time when men did not wear long scraggly beards or have neck tattoos or piercings - unless they were pirates.

#Getoffmylawn


How dare those young folks grow beards. I mean, who would wear one of those damn things? I mean, besides pretty much any subset of young men in every generation who discover that not shaving can lead to gals combing them with their fingers...

As for tattoos...you do realize that it's one of the oldest forms of body decoration, stretching back to the time well before we had electricity and tattoo guns? Used to be a rite of passage in many cultures. Still is in some. Folks connecting with those old fashions, that's not entirely new. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of folks getting bad tattoos, and that makes me sad, because my father tattoos, and apprenticed to Jack Armstrong, who began HIS career in 1928. That's a LOT of tradition behind him. He and his partners all worked with Jack for some time, and the man is a legend within the tattoo community. Not always popular, it is a tradition that stretches back a fair ways, and there are folks who like that continuity of culture. Some folks get bad tattoos, for the wrong reasons, but dismissing tattoos as being "hip" alone ignores a lot the reasons that folks get work done. Some brilliant artists out there, and some brilliant work being done. Some asstastic stuff out there too, but that's the same as any art form. For every guy who invests in bodywork for his vintage ride, there are folks who slap a decal of Calvin pissing on something, and yeah, it's ugly and not terrible original, but does those folks then take away from the real artistry that goes into restoring and doing some damn fabulous bodywork? Same can be said for tattoos. Or piercings for that matter. Not your style? I can dig that. My pale tochis has had enough holes in it already thanks to years of bouncing and some fairly serious surgeries, and I figure the scars are testament enough to the journey without having to embellish upon it, but I do appreciate good work, and I've designed a fair number of tattoos for other folks, and have been glad to see them done right by artists I trust, and my friends have trusted.

As for beards...I've worn one since I was in college. That's over 25 years since I've seen my chin bare, and I'm not about to start shaving it off now. It's a damn sight easier than shaving every damn morning, and it makes a dang fine backscratcher for the ladies. Was it thin when I started? Yup. As most beards are when you first get one, but then time catches you up. Is it "hip"? I dunno. It's my face, and some folks seem to like the dang thing, and I do, so screwum if they don't.
 
2014-06-22 12:59:43 AM  

hubiestubert: As for tattoos...you do realize that it's one of the oldest forms of body decoration


Of course but you have to admit it's gotten pretty crazy in recent years. Nursing homes are going to look hilarious in 40 years or so.
 
2014-06-22 01:03:38 AM  

Mugato: hubiestubert: As for tattoos...you do realize that it's one of the oldest forms of body decoration

Of course but you have to admit it's gotten pretty crazy in recent years. Nursing homes are going to look hilarious in 40 years or so.


Hey, I'm looking forward to reminiscing with my peers about pit shows and waling on skinheads while the nursing staff looks askance...
 
2014-06-22 01:05:10 AM  

hubiestubert: Mugato: hubiestubert: As for tattoos...you do realize that it's one of the oldest forms of body decoration

Of course but you have to admit it's gotten pretty crazy in recent years. Nursing homes are going to look hilarious in 40 years or so.

Hey, I'm looking forward to reminiscing with my peers about pit shows and waling on skinheads while the nursing staff looks askance...


No I meant all these 80 year olds walking around with neck and sleeve tatoos.
 
2014-06-22 01:15:20 AM  

Mugato: hubiestubert: Mugato: hubiestubert: As for tattoos...you do realize that it's one of the oldest forms of body decoration

Of course but you have to admit it's gotten pretty crazy in recent years. Nursing homes are going to look hilarious in 40 years or so.

Hey, I'm looking forward to reminiscing with my peers about pit shows and waling on skinheads while the nursing staff looks askance...

No I meant all these 80 year olds walking around with neck and sleeve tatoos.


Um...I hate to break this to you, but there's a fair number of them already. At this point, my Dad's wife has full sleeves and most of her back and legs. Not as common in his generation, but a lot of the tattoo community has been getting work done for 40 or more years. My Dad? In his 60s now, has a damn lot of work, and he started in his mid-thirties. There's going to be a lot more folks, and yeah, some of them are going to be sort of sad pieces of work by the time they hit the shuffleboard set, but a lot of the newer inks are going to hold up a lot longer.

I hate to see folks get tattoos just to get a tattoo. By that, I mean, they choose something at random, or without much meaning, and then have to get it touched up, or covered up later on, or get something for someone else, as opposed for themselves, and that is sad making, but there are plenty of folks who get good work done, for themselves, for their own reasons, and even if other folks don't get it, more power to them.
 
2014-06-22 01:23:10 AM  
I'm kind of offended by this article, although it makes some good points. I take pride in being a hipster, but I'd be okay with it, if people outside of my circle of friends stopped referring to me as a hipster.

We have a love for nostalgia from different decades..an appreciation for history, and we like to be ironic, and not follow you sheeple in your current trends.  We shop at used clothing stores to be cool and different, and honestly, it gets me laid, because I have style that attracts the ladies. They're intrigued by my wardrobe, fixie bike, mustache, and collection of cassette tapes. Just don't call me a hipster, because that term is dunzo, bro.o
 
2014-06-22 01:25:17 AM  

Mark Ratner: I take pride in being a hipster


Really? I thought it was a universal slur. Or are you being super ironic?
 
2014-06-22 01:32:07 AM  

Mugato: Mark Ratner: I take pride in being a hipster

Really? I thought it was a universal slur. Or are you being super ironic?


who cares?
 
2014-06-22 01:37:44 AM  
Hipsters:
1. indignant that their trendy anti-trendiness draws attention
2. humorless about the term hipster
 
2014-06-22 01:38:23 AM  
I've been wearing a goatee for 17 years, since I was in college. fark all y'all.
 
2014-06-22 01:38:33 AM  
So I can drink a PBR without being accused of being one?
 
2014-06-22 01:40:57 AM  
Flat cap?  What is that?  A cabbie hat?
 
2014-06-22 01:41:58 AM  
It's not that hipsterism has peaked so much that the definition of the word "hipster" has expanded so much that it basically means whatever the speaker doesn't like.

/let the irony sink in a moment.
 
2014-06-22 01:42:05 AM  
No. The answer is no. Unless Seattle falls into the sea, hipsters aren't anywhere near to dying off.
 
2014-06-22 01:42:46 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: They're drinking paint now?


Would explain quite a bit...
 
2014-06-22 01:44:48 AM  
Enjoy the moment because, as we discuss the end of the hipster, people are reaching deep within themselves to find the next trench which will surely be yet even stupider than hipsterism.
 
2014-06-22 01:46:08 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: They're drinking paint now?


www.timesleaderonline.com
Did somebody say, "flat white?"
 
2014-06-22 01:48:45 AM  

hubiestubert: Mugato: hubiestubert: Mugato: hubiestubert: As for tattoos...you do realize that it's one of the oldest forms of body decoration

Of course but you have to admit it's gotten pretty crazy in recent years. Nursing homes are going to look hilarious in 40 years or so.

Hey, I'm looking forward to reminiscing with my peers about pit shows and waling on skinheads while the nursing staff looks askance...

No I meant all these 80 year olds walking around with neck and sleeve tatoos.

Um...I hate to break this to you, but there's a fair number of them already. At this point, my Dad's wife has full sleeves and most of her back and legs. Not as common in his generation, but a lot of the tattoo community has been getting work done for 40 or more years. My Dad? In his 60s now, has a damn lot of work, and he started in his mid-thirties. There's going to be a lot more folks, and yeah, some of them are going to be sort of sad pieces of work by the time they hit the shuffleboard set, but a lot of the newer inks are going to hold up a lot longer.

I hate to see folks get tattoos just to get a tattoo. By that, I mean, they choose something at random, or without much meaning, and then have to get it touched up, or covered up later on, or get something for someone else, as opposed for themselves, and that is sad making, but there are plenty of folks who get good work done, for themselves, for their own reasons, and even if other folks don't get it, more power to them.


That right there is why I have not allowed a tattoo gun to put ink to my skin. I want something that will mean something to me in a couple weeks. Let alone in a couple years. Can't stand the people covered in just off the wall art you find at cheap shops.
 
2014-06-22 01:50:55 AM  
I was a hipster before it was cool. Now I wear a fez.
 
2014-06-22 01:51:52 AM  

Mark Ratner: I'm kind of offended by this article, although it makes some good points. I take pride in being a hipster, but I'd be okay with it, if people outside of my circle of friends stopped referring to me as a hipster.

We have a love for nostalgia from different decades..an appreciation for history, and we like to be ironic, and not follow you sheeple in your current trends.  We shop at used clothing stores to be cool and different, and honestly, it gets me laid, because I have style that attracts the ladies. They're intrigued by my wardrobe, fixie bike, mustache, and collection of cassette tapes. Just don't call me a hipster, because that term is dunzo, bro.o


poseur

Seriously, when did the poseurs take over the hipster name? Hipster used to be what 90's punks morphed into after they mellowed out and weren't afraid to admit that they liked The Smiths, Joy Division and Depeche Mode along with Fugazi, Pennywise and Black Flag. They had a strong DIY ethic and weren't trust fund kids but a lower/lower middle class, which is why they moved into a run down neighborhoods. (The rent was cheap.) Then you had this flood of upper middle/upper class trust fun kids moving into these same neighborhoods the moment it started to turn around in order to achieve the bohemian lifestyle that seemed so romantic to them. They often never contributed to the turn around of the neighborhood but benefited from it. And I bet if you went to Williamsburg now, you won't find an original hipster living there any more. They've all moved out once they couldn't afford to live there.
 
2014-06-22 01:54:10 AM  

mekki: Mark Ratner: I'm kind of offended by this article, although it makes some good points. I take pride in being a hipster, but I'd be okay with it, if people outside of my circle of friends stopped referring to me as a hipster.

We have a love for nostalgia from different decades..an appreciation for history, and we like to be ironic, and not follow you sheeple in your current trends.  We shop at used clothing stores to be cool and different, and honestly, it gets me laid, because I have style that attracts the ladies. They're intrigued by my wardrobe, fixie bike, mustache, and collection of cassette tapes. Just don't call me a hipster, because that term is dunzo, bro.o

poseur

Seriously, when did the poseurs take over the hipster name? Hipster used to be what 90's punks morphed into after they mellowed out and weren't afraid to admit that they liked The Smiths, Joy Division and Depeche Mode along with Fugazi, Pennywise and Black Flag. They had a strong DIY ethic and weren't trust fund kids but a lower/lower middle class, which is why they moved into a run down neighborhoods. (The rent was cheap.) Then you had this flood of upper middle/upper class trust fun kids moving into these same neighborhoods the moment it started to turn around in order to achieve the bohemian lifestyle that seemed so romantic to them. They often never contributed to the turn around of the neighborhood but benefited from it. And I bet if you went to Williamsburg now, you won't find an original hipster living there any more. They've all moved out once they couldn't afford to live there.


my latest OK Cupid pic:
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2014-06-22 01:55:43 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: They're drinking paint now?


Only artisanal, organic, small-batch lead based paint.
 
2014-06-22 01:56:36 AM  
I have a beard because I hate shaving. Does that make me a hipster?
 
2014-06-22 01:58:12 AM  
Goddamnit  I look good in my driver's cap.  About 10 years ago, my wife saw a picture of my grandfather in that old style cap and said I should get one.  It used to be I couldn't find them anywhere, then all of a sudden, they were everywhere.

And I've had facial hair for 20 years.
 
2014-06-22 01:58:20 AM  

fusillade762: I have a beard because I hate shaving. Does that make me a hipster?


That's why mine is coming back as soon as the warm season is done.
 
2014-06-22 01:59:06 AM  

fusillade762: I have a beard because I hate shaving. Does that make me a hipster?


No.  I have one because I'm too lazy to shave and nobody's ever mistaken me for a hipster.
 
2014-06-22 02:00:55 AM  
I haven't cut my hair or beard since Halloween 2012. The awe inspired in neutered males isn't worth the hassle most days.
 
2014-06-22 02:05:07 AM  

hubiestubert: Mugato: hubiestubert: Mugato: hubiestubert: As for tattoos...you do realize that it's one of the oldest forms of body decoration

Of course but you have to admit it's gotten pretty crazy in recent years. Nursing homes are going to look hilarious in 40 years or so.

Hey, I'm looking forward to reminiscing with my peers about pit shows and waling on skinheads while the nursing staff looks askance...

No I meant all these 80 year olds walking around with neck and sleeve tatoos.

Um...I hate to break this to you, but there's a fair number of them already. At this point, my Dad's wife has full sleeves and most of her back and legs. Not as common in his generation, but a lot of the tattoo community has been getting work done for 40 or more years. My Dad? In his 60s now, has a damn lot of work, and he started in his mid-thirties. There's going to be a lot more folks, and yeah, some of them are going to be sort of sad pieces of work by the time they hit the shuffleboard set, but a lot of the newer inks are going to hold up a lot longer.

I hate to see folks get tattoos just to get a tattoo. By that, I mean, they choose something at random, or without much meaning, and then have to get it touched up, or covered up later on, or get something for someone else, as opposed for themselves, and that is sad making, but there are plenty of folks who get good work done, for themselves, for their own reasons, and even if other folks don't get it, more power to them.


There would be more, but heavy tattooing has also traditionally been part of higher risk lifestyles, featuring things like riding motorcycles helmetless, smoking and drinking heavily, or lengthy stints in the military or prison. Throw in some heroin abuse for the metal and punk rock musicians, and meth for the bikers and some of the skinheads. As a whole, it's a miracle when they make it to 70.
 
2014-06-22 02:05:47 AM  

jtown: Mr. Coffee Nerves: They're drinking paint now?

Only artisanal, organic, small-batch lead based paint.


www.loc.gov
 
2014-06-22 02:08:55 AM  

Mark Ratner: I'm kind of offended by this article, although it makes some good points. I take pride in being a hipster, but I'd be okay with it, if people outside of my circle of friends stopped referring to me as a hipster.

We have a love for nostalgia from different decades..an appreciation for history, and we like to be ironic, and not follow you sheeple in your current trends.  We shop at used clothing stores to be cool and different, and honestly, it gets me laid, because I have style that attracts the ladies. They're intrigued by my wardrobe, fixie bike, mustache, and collection of cassette tapes. Just don't call me a hipster, because that term is dunzo, bro.o


This is how it's done, folks. 8/10
 
2014-06-22 02:11:02 AM  
Subby: Could it be that these flat-white-drinking, flat-cap-wearing douchebags will soon cease to exist?

Don't you tease me, Subby honey.
 
2014-06-22 02:11:55 AM  
Love how the hipster in the article doesn't like being called a hipster because he no longer feels cool about being called that. Why, by golly gosh, he sounds like he is willing to put down his corn cob pipe and threaten fisticuffs over such an insult.
 
2014-06-22 02:14:59 AM  
Bigedmond:That right there is why I have not allowed a tattoo gun to put ink to my skin. I want something that will mean something to me in a couple weeks. Let alone in a couple years. Can't stand the people covered in just off the wall art you find at cheap shops.

I have dogs playing poker on my ass.

/Thinking of getting it tattooed there, too.
 
2014-06-22 02:18:14 AM  
Meh.  I'm not even sure what a hipster is.  I was called it today in Portland (okay, that might matter) while taking a but with a Chargers hat, Nike sweatshirt, grey shorts, and Chucks on.   I don't have a beard or mustache, or any tattoos or piercings.

Does it mean white guy born in the 80's?  A 30-something on a bus?  Is it ironic I was in the Brooklyn neighborhood of Portland?  Defining a hipster isn't that easy anymore.
 
2014-06-22 02:18:32 AM  
I'm another one who's had a beard for twenty-odd years because I got sick of shaving everyday. I'll go on having one even if they've gone out of style.
 
2014-06-22 02:19:19 AM  

davidphogan: taking a but


bus.

That was quite the unfortunate typo.  I blame the noxious bus fumes.  Or the beers.
 
2014-06-22 02:22:53 AM  
Oh no! People aren't buying our cheap crap?! Whats all this "indie" nonsense?!  Hipsters! Petit Bourgeois! Trust fund tourists!

Insulting people who aren't interested in mass market garbage by calling them a hipster makes you a literal tool of those who haven't figured out a way to make money of that particular subset of the population.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/656389
 
2014-06-22 02:46:54 AM  
I don't care; I like my Carlos Santana straw trilby. I have a leather driving cap, too. No beard or tattoos; I'm much more in the middle-aged suburban dork category than the hipster one. And I drink drip coffee, black with no sugar.
 
2014-06-22 02:47:24 AM  
Hipsters and Sarah Palin, stop paying them attention and they will be out of your life.
 
2014-06-22 02:55:30 AM  

LazyMedia: Mark Ratner: I'm kind of offended by this article, although it makes some good points. I take pride in being a hipster, but I'd be okay with it, if people outside of my circle of friends stopped referring to me as a hipster.

We have a love for nostalgia from different decades..an appreciation for history, and we like to be ironic, and not follow you sheeple in your current trends.  We shop at used clothing stores to be cool and different, and honestly, it gets me laid, because I have style that attracts the ladies. They're intrigued by my wardrobe, fixie bike, mustache, and collection of cassette tapes. Just don't call me a hipster, because that term is dunzo, bro.o

This is how it's done, folks. 8/10


Yeah, I was with him until "a love for nostalgia from different decades." Three kinds of people can credibly get away with that: gays, Jews, and people on the autism spectrum. Otherwise, nostalgia is something you better have lived through.
 
2014-06-22 03:02:25 AM  

hubiestubert: Mugato: hubiestubert: Mugato: hubiestubert: As for tattoos...you do realize that it's one of the oldest forms of body decoration

Of course but you have to admit it's gotten pretty crazy in recent years. Nursing homes are going to look hilarious in 40 years or so.

Hey, I'm looking forward to reminiscing with my peers about pit shows and waling on skinheads while the nursing staff looks askance...

No I meant all these 80 year olds walking around with neck and sleeve tatoos.

Um...I hate to break this to you, but there's a fair number of them already. At this point, my Dad's wife has full sleeves and most of her back and legs. Not as common in his generation, but a lot of the tattoo community has been getting work done for 40 or more years. My Dad? In his 60s now, has a damn lot of work, and he started in his mid-thirties. There's going to be a lot more folks, and yeah, some of them are going to be sort of sad pieces of work by the time they hit the shuffleboard set, but a lot of the newer inks are going to hold up a lot longer.

I hate to see folks get tattoos just to get a tattoo. By that, I mean, they choose something at random, or without much meaning, and then have to get it touched up, or covered up later on, or get something for someone else, as opposed for themselves, and that is sad making, but there are plenty of folks who get good work done, for themselves, for their own reasons, and even if other folks don't get it, more power to them.


So they're carnies?
 
2014-06-22 03:08:30 AM  
Would somebody please, perhaps it's a rant but it's a fair a question, tell me why we care what this nebulous and self absorbed cultural subgroup thinks about anything?  Seriously.

They're entire code of.. actually, I have no idea what it's a code of, consists of a mantra of "whatevs, sorry, too hip for the room" and nobody even asked.

Passive aggressive to the point of clinical sociopathy, a token array of "fashion statements" that largely consist of gallons of ink, facial hair, a bunch of clothes your uncle Willy didn't want anymore so he gave them to a thrift shop and a concrete etched deadpan that says "It's so hard for me to get through the day when everybody on earth is stupider than me, but I can do it.  I'm strong."  All wrapped in a codified circle jerk of mutual self congratulation.  It's like an entire chunk of a generation said "I'm not buying ANYTHING, man.  I'm gonna go see what matters for myself" and, upon finding themselves all at the same Starbucks located next to the Goodwill across the from the Apple store said "Yup. This matter."  Latter day hippies?  Hippies got their asses shot off and tear gassed because they thought maybe getting shipped off to Ookabollapongistan to blow away yellow people so that Dow and General Dynamics could have a better P&L statement was a bad idea.

Sorry, but "pay attention to how much I don't want you to pay attention to me" is the pose of a 14 year old who just discovered J. D. Salinger and want their asses rosy until they're doddering in a rocking chair because "they get it, dude".  The modern west is full of ennui, schadenfreude and castoffs?  Yeah. I suppose it is.  But the unkempt hairy ass end of 1951 was already done in 1951 and it was done in Paris, not Poughkeepsie, and your version is sh*t.  And P.S., if you ride your bike out into the middle of traffic, you're not making a statement.  You're asking for a zipper in your chest.  They don't improve anything, they don't add anything, they don't bring any fresh cultural air, they just run from pose to tchotchke to fad to "artisanal" reinvention of the food chain or the wheel like something amazing is happening.  That's not hip.  That's a suburban sewing circle with beer and a hand cranked drill press in the garage.  If your plaint, oh hipper than hip hipsters, is that the culture is stagnant, I hate to piss in your petunias, but...

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