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2014-06-21 04:26:46 AM  

Fark You I'm Drunk: Tetrazphere: He quoted a line from a Pokemon movie -"I believe these words came from the  Pokémon movie. 'Life can be a challenge. Life can seem impossible. It's never easy when there's so much on the line. But you and I can make a difference. There's a mission just for you and me.'" during his exiting speech as GOP candidate in 2012.

Really?! Someone should have posted a photo reminding us of that fact.


That was an answer to hardinparamedic question about that photo reminding us of that fact. I forgot to quote his post.
 
2014-06-21 04:41:37 AM  

Tetrazphere: Fark You I'm Drunk: Tetrazphere: He quoted a line from a Pokemon movie -"I believe these words came from the  Pokémon movie. 'Life can be a challenge. Life can seem impossible. It's never easy when there's so much on the line. But you and I can make a difference. There's a mission just for you and me.'" during his exiting speech as GOP candidate in 2012.

Really?! Someone should have posted a photo reminding us of that fact.

That was an answer to hardinparamedic question about that photo reminding us of that fact. I forgot to quote his post.


We're all well aware of when he quoted that. It's one of the many, many reasons most people think he's an idiot.
 
2014-06-21 05:17:45 AM  

Tetrazphere: Kittypie070: ecl: Kittypie070: Tetrazphere: Kittypie070: That is not a shuck either folks. It's an honest to Hades political advert from that guy.

Kitty, do you think that add have any place at all, outside of politics?

What!? Are we or are we not in the Fark Politics section??

Did I somehow not make it quite blatantly and transparently obvious that it was indeed specifically a political ad and ONLY a political ad!!??

He just doesn't like you beating up on his candidate of choice.

*lifts a picket ship clean out of the water with one energized neuron*

Well someone is asking for it.

I was trying to narrow down your exact dislike of the ad. I didn't know if it was because of something like...

a. It Incites unnecessary hatred against those who caused 9/11 (or those who look like them)
b. That he was being disingenuous about 9/11 (that in reality he personally was emotionally unaffected about 9/11, and he was just pandering for votes.
c. That using 9/11 imagery to remember the tragedy was wrong because the victims or families of those perhaps would not agree with Cain's politics.
d. That the narrow-visioned "my country is always right" nationalism that is implied in that video is dangerous ideology to hold.
Or others or combination of those.

Certainly you wouldn't put it on the same level of grotesqueness as a pro-9/11 video, or would that be validated somehow.

/relax, this is still not a personal attack on you


It's not a "political" ad. It's using tragedy for gain of power in a sick and twisted way. It has nothing to do with Cain's political stance. It's designed to provoke emotion from loss and tragedy, it then exploits nationalism and patriotism under the guise of propaganda.

If you are not offended by exploiting the deaths of over 2977 Americans for political gain then there's something wrong with you. Why don't we just show soldiers being blown up and play God Bless America. Or, to make it even, why not show Iraqi civilians being blown up by drones and shot at by soldiers while playing God Bless America then have Hermie smile at the end.

It's Propaganda pure and simple and any politician that has to resort to propaganda and tragedy to get their message across had no message. The only message is exploitation of Nationalism and Patriotism of a tragedy which could have been prevented but wasn't. It's a douche move and it's sad that you need to have this explained to you.
 
2014-06-21 05:37:17 AM  
and he's BEAUTIFUL.
 
2014-06-21 06:09:00 AM  

Kittypie070: I got only one thing to say in favour of Herman Cain.

He TRIED mighty hard to be vaguely intelligent in a half-assed way, kinda-sorta, which is a lot more than I can say for his 2012 election comrades.


He wants the job, doesn't he?
 
2014-06-21 06:16:03 AM  
Chris Heath: What can you tell about a man by the type of pizza that he likes?
Herman Cain: [repeats the question aloud, then pauses for a long moment] The more toppings a man has on his pizza, I believe the more manly he is.
Chris Heath: Why is that?
Herman Cain: Because the more manly man is not afraid of abundance. [laughs]
Devin Gordon: Is that purely a meat question?
Herman Cain: A manly man don't want it piled high with vegetables! He would call that a sissy pizza.

/Sage advice.
//Vegetables are for girls and sissies.
///Real men like to stuff their mouths with big, throbbing pieces of meat, like peperoni and sausage. . .

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201111/herman-cain-intervie w- alan-richman-chris-heath-devin-gordon
 
2014-06-21 06:38:02 AM  
From the same interview:

Chris Heath: You used to be a Democrat didn't you?
Herman Cain: I used to vote Democrat.
Chris Heath: Why?
Herman Cain: Because I grew up in the South during the civil rights movement. The Democrats co-opted the credit for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. But if you go back and look at the history, a larger percentage of Republicans voted for that than did Democrats. But a Democrat president signed it, so they co-opted credit for having passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

/Creative math:  a higher percentage of Republicans in Congress voted for the 1964 CRA and the 1965 VRA, but a larger number of Democrats voted for both acts, since both acts were passed when Democrats held a huge majority in both houses of Congress.

The Eighty-eighth United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. It met in Washington, D.C. from January 3, 1963 to January 3, 1965, during the last year of the administration of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, and the first administration of his successor, U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson. The apportionment of seats in this House of Representatives was based on the Eighteenth Census of the United States in 1960, and the number of members was again 435 (had temporarily been 437 in order to seat one member each from recently admitted states of Alaska and Hawaii). Both chambers had a Democratic majority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88th_Congress

The Eighty-ninth United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. It met in Washington, DC from January 3, 1965 to January 3, 1967, during the third and fourth years of Lyndon Johnson's presidency. The apportionment of seats in the House of Representatives was based on the Eighteenth Census of the United States in 1960. Both chambers had a Democratic supermajority. It is regarded as "arguably the most productive in American history".[1] Some of its landmark legislation includes the creation of Medicare and Medicaid, the Voting Rights Act, Higher Education Act, and Freedom of Information Act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/89th_Congress

Maybe he's simply unaware that the strategy of civil rights activists in the 60s was to get involved in the Democratic Party in Southern states and fight to take control from the Southern segregationists within the party, since the Republicans had very little presence in the South at the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Freedom_Democratic_Party

In the current Congress, almost all the House Democrats representing Deep South states like Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina are African American (except for one white Democrat in Georgia).

Maybe he somehow missed the whole "Southern Strategy" thing.

Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to Nixon's political strategist Kevin Phillips, he did not originate it,[11] but merely popularized it.[12] In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on its essence:
    From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

"Who needs Manhattan when we can get the electoral votes of eleven Southern states?" Kevin Phillips, the prophet of "the emerging Republican majority," asked in 1968, when he was piecing together Richard Nixon's electoral map. The eleven states, he meant, of the Old Confederacy. "Put those together with the Farm Belt and the Rocky Mountains, and we don't need the big cities. We don't even want them. Sure, Hubert [Humphrey] will carry Riverside Drive in November. La-de-dah. What will he do in Oklahoma?"

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112365/why-republicans-are-party- wh ite-people

/Well, duh!  Why would you want votes from large population centers when you can count on areas with small populations?
 
2014-06-21 06:50:59 AM  

Lackofname: A first grader could run America better?

Well, that bar's over the GOP's head for sure.


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2014-06-21 07:17:52 AM  
Yea, I was interested in picking Kitty's brain, no offense but she is a bit more interesting, given the general 'splantions you mentioned. She artfully pointed out - "the extremely jarring juxtaposition of anguished screaming and visuals of black disaster and death accompanying what SHOULD be an affectionate and celebratory song" was described like a seasoned post-modern art critic.

Your view pretty much restates the basic 4 reasons i laid out. The point I was really trying to get to was if kitty disliked the add because of her political partisanship, or because of the obvious bad taste and the overt nationalistic dark reminder of 9/11 in a way that induces emotion.

I was wondering if the content of the video was switched, but the context was kept the same,.... if it were scenes of Afghani or Iraqi footage of American-bombed aftermath, with an Islamic song being sung by an Afghani political candidate, would it be grotesque (to her)? Would people then see it in an acceptable light, a way that they could agree with? What if Cain's video wasn't a political add, and it was made by a group of 9/11 families? Would it be seen in an understandable light?

From a wider perspective, I'm wondering what a political philosophy would look like if it were truly nonpartisan and held continuity on all issues. So far I'm finding this theory of politics would be extremely difficult to abide by. Very few do not approach politics like a sports team to root for, they find out their teams stance on an issue and then spout the talking points. This is a predictable waste of time and does not encourage lateral thinking.

To transcend partisanship would mean to integrate the best of the political parties while being aware of the weaknesses, while also creating an atmosphere for post-liberal idea's to emerge. (Currently liberal ideology is a psychological stage or two above traditional and achievement conservatism, but has some very dangerous pitfalls of it's own).

/do not confuse me with someone with archaic political naivete
 
2014-06-21 07:25:31 AM  
wotthefark: Read above
 
2014-06-21 07:38:16 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-21 07:38:30 AM  

Tetrazphere: Yea, I was interested in picking Kitty's brain, no offense but she is a bit more interesting, given the general 'splantions you mentioned. She artfully pointed out - "the extremely jarring juxtaposition of anguished screaming and visuals of black disaster and death accompanying what SHOULD be an affectionate and celebratory song" was described like a seasoned post-modern art critic.

Your view pretty much restates the basic 4 reasons i laid out. The point I was really trying to get to was if kitty disliked the add because of her political partisanship, or because of the obvious bad taste and the overt nationalistic dark reminder of 9/11 in a way that induces emotion.

I was wondering if the content of the video was switched, but the context was kept the same,.... if it were scenes of Afghani or Iraqi footage of American-bombed aftermath, with an Islamic song being sung by an Afghani political candidate, would it be grotesque (to her)? Would people then see it in an acceptable light, a way that they could agree with? What if Cain's video wasn't a political add, and it was made by a group of 9/11 families? Would it be seen in an understandable light?


And wouldn't it be awesome, if Wolverine fought Batman, cuz Wolverine would be like all 'SNIKT' and Batman would be all silent and staring, and then they'd fight, and who do you think would win?

Why did I write that? Because that fiction has as much bearing on the conversation as your statement above does. What if an Afghan political party did it? Why should I give a fark? It has nothing to do with our elections and what Herman Cain DID. Same with the 9/11 families. Did they do said thing? No. Therefore it has no bearing on the conversation.


From a wider perspective, I'm wondering what a political philosophy would look like if it were truly nonpartisan and held continuity on all issues. So far I'm finding this theory of politics would be extremely difficult to abide by. Very few do not approach politics like a sports team to root for, they find out their teams stance on an issue and then spout the talking points. This is a predictable waste of time and does not encourage lateral thinking.


So what you're saying is both sides are bad. Any advice on who to vote for?


To transcend partisanship would mean to integrate the best of the political parties while being aware of the weaknesses, while also creating an atmosphere for post-liberal idea's to emerge. (Currently liberal ideology is a psychological stage or two above traditional and achievement conservatism, but has some very dangerous pitfalls of it's own).

Ok, you lost me on this one. And you say Kittypie sounds like a seasoned art critic? Are you Poe-ing me?

/do not confuse me with s ...
 
2014-06-21 07:43:21 AM  
Cain pretty much killed his radio and political career when he started supporting amnesty for illegal aliens...most conservatives could care less about Cain now
 
2014-06-21 07:48:31 AM  

kronicfeld: So you're saying that you lost to the guy who lost to the guy who is worse than a first grader?


No, he didn't lose, he dropped out.  There is a difference.
 
2014-06-21 07:53:43 AM  
FTFA: Cain said the Obama administration was suffering from "a crisis of crises" on the home front and abroad. He then contended that "a first grader would approach these problems a lot smarter" than Obama and his team. "I'm not saying that to be insulting," he said. "I'm just telling you the truth."

Cain also exhorted the half-filled ballroom at Washington, DC's Omni Shoreham hotel to inform themselves and get active in politics. They needed to get involved because, as he put it, "stupid people [who do vote and volunteer] are ruining America."

Those in the room need to outnumber those "stupid people," he continued. "The solution is real simple folks. Those of us who are informed have got to outvote the stupid people. And you have got to become ambassadors of intelligence, ambassadors of information."


Anybody notice the irony? He accuses the President and his administration as not being as smart as a first grader, and then his elaboration why is basically calling those who disagree with him as "stupid". What next? Call those with a difference in political opinions "poopie-heads"?

Unfortunately this is what conservative "intellectualism" has become. Childish insults, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, bigoted defenses of racism, and misogynistic defenses of sexual assault. Herman Cain along with others like Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, George Will, Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, etc. are the flag bearers of this new conservative "intellectualism".
 
2014-06-21 08:26:06 AM  

heavymetal: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 550x369]


Not sure if Cain or Thomas. Then I read "Grope" and... nope. Still not sure if Cain or Thomas.
 
2014-06-21 08:28:33 AM  

Thrag: This makes me so happy. Herman Cain needs to run for president again. He brings a surrealistic unintentional humor to the ticket that no other republican candidate can match.


blog.chron.com
Challenge accepted!
 
2014-06-21 08:29:55 AM  
Well, I see the season to grift has officially begun then. Good luck with that Herman. I'm sure that you can turn a buck off this, and that will sate the masses for a bit...
 
2014-06-21 08:54:41 AM  

ecl: jmr61: I've been here for a while but posting that shiat with a hero tag is causing me to consider leaving.

Farking POS  bastards.

He IS down with Pokemon.  He can't be pure evil.


He's not pure evil, he's pure stupid.
 
2014-06-21 09:02:12 AM  

Tetrazphere: Thrag: Tetrazphere: ecl: Kittypie070: Tetrazphere: Kittypie070: That is not a shuck either folks. It's an honest to Hades political advert from that guy.

Kitty, do you think that add have any place at all, outside of politics?

What!? Are we or are we not in the Fark Politics section??

Did I somehow not make it quite blatantly and transparently obvious that it was indeed specifically a political ad and ONLY a political ad!!??

He just doesn't like you beating up on his candidate of choice.

Already said he's not equipped to handle foreign policy or post-modern cultural issues. Though I think he does have an undeniable understanding about how to help small businesses succeed and decrease unemployment.

Can you give examples of Cain demonstrating this undeniable understanding of how to help small business succeed and decrease unemployment? What exactly do you derive this belief from?

Cutting payroll taxes, mandated employer covered healthcare, and mandatory minimum wage increase...all of which are understandable for huge businesses like wal-mart but kills small businesses. For example even big corporations like Papa John's, who admittedly has a greedy CEO, franchise their business name and model out to small time business owner's, who pay a monthly franchise fee to use it. They are not the millionaire's. Many actually plan a 2-5 year loss in personal revenue.


Things that benefit workers hurt small business owners. Got it.
 
2014-06-21 09:14:16 AM  

Omahawg: believe it or not, people, but godfather's used to be really good pizza.


I remember...lots of really good cheese.  That pizza was delicious.
 
2014-06-21 09:16:03 AM  

Tetrazphere: Already said he's not equipped to handle foreign policy or post-modern cultural issues


Now you're just throwing in words that you think make you sound smart. Sadly, your ignorance of what they mena actually makes you sound stupid. You know what that is? It's like rain on your wedding day.

/clue: he's not going to be analyzing literature or philosophy
 
2014-06-21 09:20:03 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: You advanced a flat tax plan that sounded more like a pizza ad. No one takes you seriously now and no one took you seriously then. You were the GOP's black friend they used to pretend they care about anyone other than rich, white males.


He was a front runner. His 999 plan was taken seriously. He fell out of favor because of his pro-rape policies. I recall an avalanche of abused women stepping forward or it could have been Cain instead of Rmoney.
 
2014-06-21 09:22:03 AM  
What the hell is a "post-modern cultural issue" in regard to the office of POTUS?

Is he going to have to handle criticism of his paintings of soup cans?
 
2014-06-21 09:24:03 AM  
Herman didn't (doesn't know how to?) read the memo.  Obama is old news.  Trashing Hillary Clinton is the new cause célèbre.
 
ecl
2014-06-21 09:24:07 AM  

Tetrazphere: Yea, I was interested in picking Kitty's brain, no offense but she is a bit more interesting, given the general 'splantions you mentioned. She artfully pointed out - "the extremely jarring juxtaposition of anguished screaming and visuals of black disaster and death accompanying what SHOULD be an affectionate and celebratory song" was described like a seasoned post-modern art critic.

Your view pretty much restates the basic 4 reasons i laid out. The point I was really trying to get to was if kitty disliked the add because of her political partisanship, or because of the obvious bad taste and the overt nationalistic dark reminder of 9/11 in a way that induces emotion.

I was wondering if the content of the video was switched, but the context was kept the same,.... if it were scenes of Afghani or Iraqi footage of American-bombed aftermath, with an Islamic song being sung by an Afghani political candidate, would it be grotesque (to her)? Would people then see it in an acceptable light, a way that they could agree with? What if Cain's video wasn't a political add, and it was made by a group of 9/11 families? Would it be seen in an understandable light?

From a wider perspective, I'm wondering what a political philosophy would look like if it were truly nonpartisan and held continuity on all issues. So far I'm finding this theory of politics would be extremely difficult to abide by. Very few do not approach politics like a sports team to root for, they find out their teams stance on an issue and then spout the talking points. This is a predictable waste of time and does not encourage lateral thinking.

To transcend partisanship would mean to integrate the best of the political parties while being aware of the weaknesses, while also creating an atmosphere for post-liberal idea's to emerge. (Currently liberal ideology is a psychological stage or two above traditional and achievement conservatism, but has some very dangerous pitfalls of it's own).

/do not confuse me with s ...



Lots of theatre-grade projection going on with you.
 
2014-06-21 09:27:23 AM  
I preferred the Terry Crews version of him on Arrested Development.
 
2014-06-21 09:30:00 AM  

Wyckyd Sceptre: The greatest interview in the history of politics


That was wonderful.
 
2014-06-21 09:39:04 AM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Love me some Herman Cain. It's carpetbagging but he brings pizza out of that bag before he lines it with your donations. He reads Pokemon lyrics as if they were Twain and asks you to love him for it. He's the guy who undeniably doesn't give one shiat about anything other than his own wallet, and Republicans loved him for it.

He's farking Herman Colbert.


Yup.  The dude has a degree in math and a master's in computer science, he certainly is no dummy, he just plays one to fleece tubes.
 
2014-06-21 09:41:12 AM  
...That should say rubes.
 
2014-06-21 10:04:24 AM  

Trance750: jasonvatch: "A First Grader Could Run America Better" said Herman Cain.

Maybe, but you didn't get the chance.

After 8 years of Bush, a first grader would be an improvement


How long is the but Bush bullshiat going to last? Yeah he was a crappy president but FFS your guy has to take responsibility for SOMETHING.
 
ecl
2014-06-21 10:10:43 AM  

Obama's Left Nut: Trance750: jasonvatch: "A First Grader Could Run America Better" said Herman Cain.

Maybe, but you didn't get the chance.

After 8 years of Bush, a first grader would be an improvement

How long is the but Bush bullshiat going to last? Yeah he was a crappy president but FFS your guy has to take responsibility for SOMETHING.


How long will it take to fix Iraq?  Forever?  Then Bush/Cheney can suck infinite dicks.
 
2014-06-21 10:11:51 AM  

Obama's Left Nut: Trance750: jasonvatch: "A First Grader Could Run America Better" said Herman Cain.

Maybe, but you didn't get the chance.

After 8 years of Bush, a first grader would be an improvement

How long is the but Bush bullshiat going to last? Yeah he was a crappy president but FFS your guy has to take responsibility for SOMETHING.


Maybe quit asking him to take responsibility for something he didn't do? Maybe we blame Bush for a lot of stuff he did because Bush is the one who actually did those things? Obama didn't magically invade Iraq in 2003 just because he became President in 2009.
 
2014-06-21 10:26:19 AM  
The best thing about the Cain campaign was that he had a pretty p[prestigious position at the Fed.  In a sane world he could tailored his message around that experience and sell himself as the only candidate who understands how an economy works. Since Cain was in Fed hating GOP, he had to pretend that experience never existed and he had to campaign as the pizza guy.
 
2014-06-21 11:00:47 AM  

ecl: Obama's Left Nut: Trance750: jasonvatch: "A First Grader Could Run America Better" said Herman Cain.

Maybe, but you didn't get the chance.

After 8 years of Bush, a first grader would be an improvement

How long is the but Bush bullshiat going to last? Yeah he was a crappy president but FFS your guy has to take responsibility for SOMETHING.

How long will it take to fix Iraq?  Forever?  Then Bush/Cheney can suck infinite dicks.


Oh that is right I forgot.... Obama got all our troops out of Iraq.... but wait he is now saying the reason we did not leave troops in Iraq is because the Iraqi government would not give us the usual immunities we require for our troops.....

Which one is it?
 
2014-06-21 11:03:48 AM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: heavymetal: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 550x369]

Not sure if Cain or Thomas. Then I read "Grope" and... nope. Still not sure if Cain or Thomas.


Is that because they all look alike?
 
2014-06-21 11:05:41 AM  

Obama's Left Nut: Oh that is right I forgot.... Obama got all our troops out of Iraq.... but wait he is now saying the reason we did not leave troops in Iraq is because the Iraqi government would not give us the usual immunities we require for our troops.....

Which one is it?


ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2014-06-21 11:30:14 AM  
Remember Herman Cain?

Yep.

HE'S BACK.

i78.photobucket.com

"Gary Coleman, his arms held high."
 
2014-06-21 11:52:04 AM  

Obama's Left Nut: Trance750: jasonvatch: "A First Grader Could Run America Better" said Herman Cain.

Maybe, but you didn't get the chance.

After 8 years of Bush, a first grader would be an improvement

How long is the but Bush bullshiat going to last? Yeah he was a crappy president but FFS your guy has to take responsibility for SOMETHING.


Obama's responsible for plenty.  Like getting us mostly out of the hole Bush dug us into.
 
2014-06-21 11:52:27 AM  

WI241TH: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Love me some Herman Cain. It's carpetbagging but he brings pizza out of that bag before he lines it with your donations. He reads Pokemon lyrics as if they were Twain and asks you to love him for it. He's the guy who undeniably doesn't give one shiat about anything other than his own wallet, and Republicans loved him for it.

He's farking Herman Colbert.

Yup.  The dude has a degree in math and a master's in computer science, he certainly is no dummy, he just plays one to fleece tubes.


I don't think having degrees in math and computer science are dispositive of the question whether someone is a dummy.
 
2014-06-21 11:52:58 AM  

Obama's Left Nut: Oh that is right I forgot.... Obama got all our troops out of Iraq.... but wait he is now saying the reason we did not leave troops in Iraq is because the Iraqi government would not give us the usual immunities we require for our troops.....


It's almost as if geopolitics is complicated and there's never only one reason for anything.
 
2014-06-21 11:57:30 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Obama's Left Nut: Oh that is right I forgot.... Obama got all our troops out of Iraq.... but wait he is now saying the reason we did not leave troops in Iraq is because the Iraqi government would not give us the usual immunities we require for our troops.....

It's almost as if geopolitics is complicated and there's never only one reason for anything.


No way man. Everything can be simplified to a bumper sticker. Being smart is dangerous because reasons.
 
2014-06-21 12:03:50 PM  

Rann Xerox: Remember Herman Cain?

Yep.

HE'S BACK.

[i78.photobucket.com image 210x195]

"Gary Coleman, his arms held high."


High is a relative term when you're six feet under, Sir.
 
2014-06-21 02:20:27 PM  

He then contended that "a first grader would approach these problems a lot smarter" than Obama and his team. "I'm not saying that to be insulting," he said. "I'm just telling you the truth."


"You mother sucks off various types of farm animals in the middle of the night. Whoa whoa whoa! I'm not saying that to be insulting! I'm just telling you the truth!
 
2014-06-21 02:23:33 PM  

quatchi: In Cain's final speech before he quit his campaign he actually quoted lyrics from the Donna Summer song "The Power of One" from the Pokemon movie.


Hmmm. I would have much preferred "Love to Love You Baby." Especially the groaning sounds.
 
2014-06-21 02:31:31 PM  
Herman "9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9" Cain
 
2014-06-21 02:56:48 PM  

Rann Xerox: Remember Herman Cain?

Yep.

HE'S BACK.

[i78.photobucket.com image 210x195]

"Gary Coleman, his arms held high."


I missed you.
 
2014-06-21 03:07:53 PM  
Spermin' Herman.


i miss his Pizza Song.
 
2014-06-21 03:17:56 PM  

Rann Xerox: Remember Herman Cain?

Yep.

HE'S BACK.

[i78.photobucket.com image 210x195]

"Gary Coleman, his arms held high."


When the walls fell.
 
2014-06-21 03:52:23 PM  
Holy shiat now I'm a post-modern art critic :D

I'm starting to like you, Tetrazphere.

if it were scenes of Afghani or Iraqi footage of American-bombed aftermath, with an Islamic song being sung by an Afghani political candidate, would it be grotesque (to her)?

It would in my eyes be monstrously sad and horrible, even with a complete comprehension of the event depicted. Even if I KNEW that the KIAs were entirely "bad guys" and my country's attack was completely justified..

I know very well what my country's weapons can do.

I am a human being before I am anything else.

I am capable of sympathizing with the humanity of my enemy even as I am obliterating him on the battlefield with unquestionably just cause.

Trouble is with your question I'd need to be completely fluent in Pashto in order to understand the song, and experienced in the understanding of the culture involved.

I am neither. And as many times as I've joked about it, I'm sure as hell not a telepath.

So, I fear that particular point gets a bit lost.

Would people then see it in an acceptable light, a way that they could agree with? What if Cain's video wasn't a political add, and it was made by a group of 9/11 families? Would it be seen in an understandable light?

All I can say is that I think the same video if made by a different source with different motives -- should I watch it -- would be just as unpleasant and tasteless, in my eyes, from a purely aesthetic viewpoint.

Trying to ask me to like something I flatly don't like -- whatever it might be, wherever it might come from -- because it's psychologically and artistically mindf*ck is Not A Good Thing To Ask of me.

To transcend partisanship would mean to integrate the best of the political parties while being aware of the weaknesses,

This is why I'm a JFK fan.
 
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