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(Kansas.com)   Kansas Speaker of the House: "When I said I was afraid of the redshirts carrying guns, I didn't mean the teachers who wore red shirts to a Capitol protest last month. I meant the Redcoats. Because the British are coming"   (kansas.com) divider line 60
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2014-06-20 08:13:53 PM

The Name: Actually, part of the problem is that they're stuck in the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment concern with government power is part of what drives their obsession with things like nullification and general anti-gub'mint nuttery, and it's the Enlightenment's focus on individuality and personal freedom, as reflected in the founding fathers, that makes them think we live in a pure meritocracy -or that the world would be a pure meritocracy if only government didn't exist. This latter worldview also comes from an Enlightenment anthropology that views human beings as inherently rational seekers of self-interest.


That particular view of humanity goes at least as far back as Aristotle, although I seem to remember he rationalized the fact that many people don't behave that way by calling them "natural slaves".
 
2014-06-20 09:44:56 PM
"It was a term of art that Ray used flippantly in reference to the British army during the Revolutionary War about being able to protect yourself and knowing who your enemy is," [Merrick's spokeswoman Rachel] Whitten said.

I'm glad I don't have her job.
 
2014-06-20 11:08:08 PM

The Name: The Enlightenment concern with government power is part of what drives their obsession with things like nullification and general anti-gub'mint nuttery, and it's the Enlightenment's focus on individuality and personal freedom, as reflected in the founding fathers, that makes them think we live in a pure meritocracy


Um, the US's founding political theories didn't prioritize the individual entirely, they were more based around the idea that a society could have their cake and eat it too in terms of individual liberty and a competent government by essentially having the government run on the informed consent the the portion of the electorate with the time and energy to figure out what was up.

Locke was a reasonably significant influence, sure, but so were Hobbes and a number of the Stoics.

I think you may be oversimplifying one of the major steps forward in human social thought a bit, there.
 
2014-06-20 11:11:04 PM
See you farkstick?  Guns are scary when people you don't like have them!
 
2014-06-20 11:15:10 PM

Jim_Callahan: I think you may be oversimplifying one of the major steps forward in human social thought a bit, there.


Yeah, I probably am.  My field is about a thousand years earlier.  I guess my point is that the founders themselves had an overly simplistic view of the interplay between individuals and society.  To risk oversimplifying again: the founders might have said, "man is kind of an island, sort of"; whereas modern scholarship has shown that, not only is man not an island, he is virtually inextricable from, and inexplicable without, his social context.
 
2014-06-21 12:03:56 AM
"Suppose way back in history if you had a referee before every war, and the guy called the toss. Let's go to the Revolutionary War."

[Referee speaking] "British call heads. It's tails. What do you do, settlers? . . . Settlers say that during the war they will wear any color clothes that they want to, shoot from behind the rocks and trees and everywhere. Says your team must wear red and march in a straight line."
 
2014-06-21 12:31:20 AM
CAPTAIN I SEE SOMETHING

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2014-06-21 12:59:23 AM

SenorPez: At least they're consistent with the "fark you, I've got mine," ideology.

Assholes in Starbucks with assault rifles: A-OK
Teachers with pistols: NOPE


I thought we wanted teachers armed because of school shootings to protect the childrens.
 
2014-06-21 02:07:59 AM
This is the most hilariously bad attempt at spin I remember.  That's something a 10-year old kid does ("no, Mom, you misheard: I said 'hiss, my gas', because I was thinking about the hissing sound that happens when you open a coke bottle, and I was starting to feel thirsty for a coke just as you were grounding me").
 
2014-06-22 02:53:00 AM

Captain Dan: This is the most hilariously bad attempt at spin I remember.  That's something a 10-year old kid does ("no, Mom, you misheard: I said 'hiss, my gas', because I was thinking about the hissing sound that happens when you open a coke bottle, and I was starting to feel thirsty for a coke just as you were grounding me").


Santorum's 'blah people' moment is still editor's choice for me.
 
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