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(CNN)   Massachusetts sets the state minimum wage to $11, suck it red state workers   (money.cnn.com) divider line 279
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2014-06-20 11:07:05 AM  
Go Massachusetts!
 
2014-06-20 11:09:06 AM  
I am sure all the businesses will be rolling out of Mass by the weekend.
 
2014-06-20 11:13:59 AM  
FINALLY

Our economic recovery depends on getting money down to the consumer. Mass just ensured their economic recovery
 
2014-06-20 11:21:10 AM  
www.chicagonow.com
 
2014-06-20 11:47:22 AM  
Still not a living wage.
 
2014-06-20 11:52:38 AM  
$11 in most of Mass won't get you far, but this is a start.
 
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2014-06-20 11:57:16 AM  

cman: FINALLY

Our economic recovery depends on getting money down to the consumer. Mass just ensured their economic recovery


There is no supply without demand.
 
2014-06-20 12:04:35 PM  

cman: Mass just ensured their economic recovery cratered their economy.


FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.

Then there will be no demand for goods and services, and then MA will watch their tax revenues dwindle, and then they'll look to states like Mississippi to see how to fix the problem.
 
2014-06-20 12:07:26 PM  
Perhaps we can celebrate this success without shiatting all over our fellow citizens who happen to live in states that vote red, who could also certainly use a raise.
 
2014-06-20 12:16:03 PM  

Gonz: cman: Mass just ensured their economic recovery cratered their economy.

FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.

Then there will be no demand for goods and services, and then MA will watch their tax revenues dwindle, and then they'll look to states like Mississippi to see how to fix the problem.


That would be true if the jump was significant. This isn't a significant jump
 
2014-06-20 12:19:07 PM  

Gonz: cman: Mass just ensured their economic recovery cratered their economy.

FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.

Then there will be no demand for goods and services, and then MA will watch their tax revenues dwindle, and then they'll look to states like Mississippi to see how to fix the problem.


One of these days this doom and gloom scenario will come to pass.  Sure, it's always been wrong before, but THIS TIME yer F`CKED libtardos!!
 
2014-06-20 12:36:51 PM  
Considering the cost of living in Massachusetts that's like $5 in the flyover states.

Good start though
 
2014-06-20 12:41:22 PM  
Massachusetts has finally conceded that the only way they can pay for their liberal government bloat is to collect more revenue, which they can only do if there are higher wages to tax.

It's brilliant, really.
 
2014-06-20 12:41:22 PM  
This will ruin our Commonwealth just like taking the lead on same-sex marriage did
 
2014-06-20 12:56:10 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Massachusetts has finally conceded that the only way they can pay for their liberal government bloat is to collect more revenue, which they can only do if there are higher wages to tax.

It's brilliant, really.


Yeah, look at those red states, with their total lack of poor people and magnificently balanced budgets!!
 
2014-06-20 12:59:27 PM  

Shostie: [www.chicagonow.com image 503x283]


The Republican response:
members.iglou.com
 
2014-06-20 01:01:01 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Massachusetts has finally conceded that the only way they can pay for their liberal government bloat is to collect more revenue, which they can only do if there are higher wages to tax.

It's brilliant, really.


I don't understand your logic here. Employers paying their employees more is a good thing, considering how expensive everything is nowadays. I get paid *slightly more* than min wage, more money in my pocket means I can pay my student loans on time, and make other financial commitments. Why would this be bad? My employer can certainly handle the addition in pay.
 
2014-06-20 01:27:10 PM  

Gonz: cman: Mass just ensured their economic recovery cratered their economy.

FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.

Then there will be no demand for goods and services, and then MA will watch their tax revenues dwindle, and then they'll look to states like Mississippi to see how to fix the problem.


You had me until those last few words. 4/10
 
2014-06-20 01:53:08 PM  
Who can live on $11 an hour?  If the argument is to pay a living wage, minimum wage should be $25 an hour.

/another shing example of meaningless feel good legislation.
 
2014-06-20 02:01:16 PM  
MONEY IS MEANINGLESS
 
2014-06-20 02:03:40 PM  

Dimensio: The Republican response:
members.iglou.com


If you honestly believe that's a real picture, and that there is an amplifier where Herp and Derp can be turned to Potato, then I pity you.
 
2014-06-20 02:13:10 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Perhaps we can celebrate this success without shiatting all over our fellow citizens who happen to live in states that vote red, who could also certainly use a raise.


Then they should stop voting for assholes.
 
2014-06-20 02:15:25 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Massachusetts has finally conceded that the only way they can pay for their liberal government bloat is to collect more revenue, which they can only do if there are higher wages to tax.

It's brilliant, really.


You know, I pay taxes in Massachusetts, and I would be perfectly happy to see them raised slightly if it meant that my fellow massholes had a better standard of living.

Of course, this won't make my taxes higher.
 
2014-06-20 02:30:28 PM  

what_now: Then they should stop voting for assholes.


"They" consist of Rs and Ds. It's the same reaction when there's a spill in WV or an explosion in Texas, saying welp that's what they get for voting R is just petty. We're talking about people. In this case a good thing happened. I'm just as glad the Rs in MA will be getting a raise as I am the Ds.
 
2014-06-20 02:35:46 PM  

what_now: Lucky LaRue: Massachusetts has finally conceded that the only way they can pay for their liberal government bloat is to collect more revenue, which they can only do if there are higher wages to tax.

It's brilliant, really.

You know, I pay taxes in Massachusetts, and I would be perfectly happy to see them raised slightly if it meant that my fellow massholes had a better standard of living.

Of course, this won't make my taxes higher.


Are you purposely confusing a larger tax base (raise the minimum wage, you raise the tax base) with a higher tax rate?
 
2014-06-20 02:36:23 PM  

what_now: Dusk-You-n-Me: Perhaps we can celebrate this success without shiatting all over our fellow citizens who happen to live in states that vote red, who could also certainly use a raise.

Then they should stop voting for assholes.


Them voting for assholes shows that your side is right.

Why on earth would you upset that balance?
 
2014-06-20 02:47:43 PM  

Gonz: cman: Mass just ensured their economic recovery cratered their economy.

FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.

Then there will be no demand for goods and services, and then MA will watch their tax revenues dwindle, and then they'll look to states like Mississippi to see how to fix the problem.


You mean import illegal aliens, give enormous tax breaks to business who move there, and long for the days when  you could beat a non-white into working harder?
 
2014-06-20 02:49:48 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Massachusetts has finally conceded that the only way they can pay for their liberal government bloat is to collect more revenue, which they can only do if there are higher wages to tax.

It's brilliant, really.


MA has been running surpluses since Patrick's been in office.
 
2014-06-20 02:50:44 PM  
Why "suck it red state workers"? This just means there will be more jobs for red staters. Red state workers should be psyched!!
 
2014-06-20 02:50:57 PM  

Gonz: FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.


When do you think business hire people?
 
2014-06-20 02:50:58 PM  
At least red state workers have the Right To Work, amiright?
 
2014-06-20 02:51:03 PM  

SauronWasFramed: Who can live on $11 an hour?  If the argument is to pay a living wage, minimum wage should be $25 an hour.

/another shing example of meaningless feel good legislation.


You feel that $25/hr is the minimum livable wage?  That is...cool man.  Good stuff.
 
2014-06-20 02:51:31 PM  
If it weren't for my union I 'd be making the 11.00 per hour minimum wage instead of 16.00 per hour I'm making now.
 
2014-06-20 02:51:47 PM  
The Massachusetts bill also raised the subminimum base wage for tipped workers to $3.75 from $2.63 currently.

Even that is an embarrassment but it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, I guess.
 
2014-06-20 02:52:28 PM  
Thank you, Into The Blue Again!

That was very nice!

I will enjoy my 30 days immensely.
 
2014-06-20 02:52:30 PM  

palelizard: Gonz: FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.

When do you think business hire people?


Obviously businesses hire people when they are sitting on a nice chunk of profit and demand for their products is at market equilibrium, because that's when they have free time to conduct interviews.
 
2014-06-20 02:54:08 PM  
We gotta start somewhere. And while Seattle made the splash I am glad My state will try to lead the way again on the national level. We are a rich nation, no need for people in this country to be toiling away in poverty.
 
2014-06-20 02:54:44 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Thank you, Into The Blue Again!

That was very nice!

I will enjoy my 30 days immensely.


;)
 
2014-06-20 02:55:24 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Massachusetts has finally conceded that the only way they can pay for their liberal government bloat is to collect more revenue, which they can only do if there are higher wages to tax.

It's brilliant, really.


The worst part of summer is that posters like this don't have to spend 6 hours a day with their moms, pretending to be homeschooled.
 
2014-06-20 02:55:53 PM  

cman: Gonz: cman: Mass just ensured their economic recovery cratered their economy.

FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.

Then there will be no demand for goods and services, and then MA will watch their tax revenues dwindle, and then they'll look to states like Mississippi to see how to fix the problem.

That would be true if the jump was significant. This isn't a significant jump


I think your sarcasm meter is broken. "look to states like Mississippi to fix problems" should have made it pretty clear.
 
2014-06-20 02:57:53 PM  

what_now: Lucky LaRue: Massachusetts has finally conceded that the only way they can pay for their liberal government bloat is to collect more revenue, which they can only do if there are higher wages to tax.

It's brilliant, really.

You know, I pay taxes in Massachusetts, and I would be perfectly happy to see them raised slightly if it meant that my fellow massholes had a better standard of living.

Of course, this won't make my taxes higher.


Well, it will make you pay more sales tax to the extent the increased costs for businesses are passed on to consumers via higher prices.
 
2014-06-20 02:59:08 PM  

SauronWasFramed: /another shing example of meaningless feel good legislation.


lol wut
 
2014-06-20 02:59:11 PM  
It's a good step, and I'm glad they found a common consensus, though I wish they had found a way to keep in the provision that raised the minimum with cost of living increases.

It's a gradual increase, of course, but that's not going to stop the "Sky is falling" folks from bloviating.

This is going to improve the purchasing power of many folks in my area of the state (Fall River).
 
2014-06-20 02:59:27 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: palelizard: Gonz: FTFY. This will be overturned by popular demand within 6 months, because businesses will quit hiring.

When do you think business hire people?

Obviously businesses hire people when they are sitting on a nice chunk of profit and demand for their products is at market equilibrium, because that's when they have free time to conduct interviews.


That makes sense. Everyone knows time is money.
 
2014-06-20 02:59:53 PM  
According to Libslibslibs Theory, this means that North Carolina must now lower their minimum wage by a proportional amount to offset Massachusetts' changes. Thus keeping the intelligence and spite levels balanced.
 
2014-06-20 02:59:56 PM  
Enjoy your $11 hamburgers, Massholes
 
2014-06-20 03:00:32 PM  

keylock71: This is going to improve the purchasing power of many folks in my area of the state (Fall River).


wouldn't anything increase the purchasing power of Fall River

/how the hell are you guys getting a casino?
 
2014-06-20 03:04:08 PM  

CPennypacker: Enjoy your $11 hamburgers, Massholes


They won't go to $11 just because the minimum wage was raised. Sure, prices will increase some and there will be fewer jobs than there would be otherwise, and there will be an overall deadweight loss to the economy. But it doesn't mean prices will double overnight.
 
2014-06-20 03:04:33 PM  

From Philly to Boston: I am sure all the businesses will be rolling out of Mass by the weekend.



That would violate the laws of physics.
 
2014-06-20 03:05:03 PM  

CPennypacker: Enjoy your $11 hamburgers, Massholes


http://www.bostonburgerco.com/menu/

A few are close to $11, but most are 8 or 9. They are also served with homemade potato chips and either coleslaw or beans.  Mac Attack is where it's at.
 
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