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2014-06-20 11:39:23 AM
Worst. Comic Book Guy. Ever.
 
2014-06-20 12:02:20 PM
Had to look it up.

www.photofromtheworld.com
 
2014-06-20 12:49:20 PM
I've heard he runs a mean table of GURPS: SUPERS.
 
2014-06-20 12:55:13 PM
images.latinpost.com

I have no trouble whatsoever believing this.
 
2014-06-20 01:16:55 PM

DjangoStonereaver: I've heard he runs a mean table of GURPS: SUPERS.


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Gave us one of the best shared-world series.

/Which I'm sure you know given your comment
 
2014-06-20 01:18:49 PM
Obvious tag busy rummaging through the dollar bin?
 
2014-06-20 01:24:16 PM
Improper use of semicolon.
 
2014-06-20 01:32:18 PM

Boojum2k: DjangoStonereaver: I've heard he runs a mean table of GURPS: SUPERS.

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Gave us one of the best shared-world series.

/Which I'm sure you know given your comment


Ah.  I knew WILD CARDS grew out of an RPG campaign, but I didn't rightly remember which system.

Another RPG/SF Literature crossover:  Larry Niven used the essay on the Man/Kzin wars from the
RINGWORLD RPG as the bible for the shared anthology series of the same name.
 
2014-06-20 01:38:20 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Boojum2k: DjangoStonereaver: I've heard he runs a mean table of GURPS: SUPERS.

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Gave us one of the best shared-world series.

/Which I'm sure you know given your comment

Ah.  I knew WILD CARDS grew out of an RPG campaign, but I didn't rightly remember which system.

Another RPG/SF Literature crossover:  Larry Niven used the essay on the Man/Kzin wars from the
RINGWORLD RPG as the bible for the shared anthology series of the same name.


I remember that. Never played Ringworld, its one of the few I never did. Played Superworld though, it was a pretty good system, kinda the proto-Champions.
 
2014-06-20 01:40:14 PM
He signed it, "George R. Martin".

Where did his second "R." come from?  WAR?

Why are they hiding the truth from us?
 
2014-06-20 01:45:15 PM
Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.
 
2014-06-20 01:48:47 PM
 
2014-06-20 01:48:58 PM

Siberian Khatru: He signed it, "George R. Martin".

Where did his second "R." come from?  WAR?

Why are they hiding the truth from us?


The second R stands for:
"Rape and pillage loot and burn, but all in moderation.
If you do the things we say, you'll soon rule a nation.
Slaughter all your enemies, then kill your relations.
Rape and pillage loot and burn, but all in moderation!"

/dumdittyditty dumdiddleaye
 
2014-06-20 01:54:49 PM

Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.


Yet
 
2014-06-20 01:57:11 PM

Siberian Khatru: He signed it, "George R. Martin".

Where did his second "R." come from?  WAR?

Why are they hiding the truth from us?


Pretty sure you're just being silly, but I was legitimately curious and looked it up.

Apparently he took Richard as a second middle name during his confirmation.
 
2014-06-20 01:57:46 PM

Boojum2k: DjangoStonereaver: Boojum2k: DjangoStonereaver: I've heard he runs a mean table of GURPS: SUPERS.

[img.fark.net image 173x230]

Gave us one of the best shared-world series.

/Which I'm sure you know given your comment

Ah.  I knew WILD CARDS grew out of an RPG campaign, but I didn't rightly remember which system.

Another RPG/SF Literature crossover:  Larry Niven used the essay on the Man/Kzin wars from the
RINGWORLD RPG as the bible for the shared anthology series of the same name.

I remember that. Never played Ringworld, its one of the few I never did. Played Superworld though, it was a pretty good system, kinda the proto-Champions.


SUPERWORLD uses Chaosium's house RPG system (currently called BASIC ROLEPLAYING, or BRP),
which got its start with RUNEQUEST.  The system itself is basically a port of the original D&D system but
with the innovation that it explicitly is designed to model any real world task, whether it be combat or
the use of a professional or knowledge skill, with the same mechanic.  That philosophy helped pave the
way for the current mania for 'storytelling' style RPGs, since it allowed GMs to craft adventures where the
main objectives didn't have to be slaying dragons.

Personally, I think its the best task-based "Simulationist" style RPG system ever made, even unto today,
since you can use it for any genre or style of play you want (as the plethora of supplements available at
Chaosioum's website will attest)
 
2014-06-20 02:02:09 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Personally, I think its the best task-based "Simulationist" style RPG system ever made, even unto today,since you can use it for any genre or style of play you want (as the plethora of supplements available atChaosioum's website will attest)


I definitely didn't say Champions was better, Superworld covered so much so easily. Back in the day, we had a tendency to system-hop frequently though. Oddly enough, as broken as it was and still is, Heroes Unlimited was a huge favorite among my group. Villains and Vigilantes also was pretty popular, and also immensely broken.

I'm sensing a trend.
 
2014-06-20 02:04:29 PM

Boojum2k: DjangoStonereaver: Personally, I think its the best task-based "Simulationist" style RPG system ever made, even unto today,since you can use it for any genre or style of play you want (as the plethora of supplements available atChaosioum's website will attest)

I definitely didn't say Champions was better, Superworld covered so much so easily. Back in the day, we had a tendency to system-hop frequently though. Oddly enough, as broken as it was and still is, Heroes Unlimited was a huge favorite among my group. Villains and Vigilantes also was pretty popular, and also immensely broken.

I'm sensing a trend.


Also:  CHAMPIONS came out in '81, SUPERWORLD in '83.

The only thing about the HERO system I don't like is the sheer number of dice you have to roll, and that
you need to know what each die came up with to calculate killing vs bash damage.  But that's a minor
quibble, really: I'd rank it 2nd or 3rd on my all time best tabletop RPG systems.
 
2014-06-20 02:08:42 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Also: CHAMPIONS came out in '81, SUPERWORLD in '83.


I blame old age. I don't think we messed with Champions until after Superworld, though, and went back or off to something else. Champions is good at modeling everything, but character creation is a pain. And I say that as someone who likes GURPS: Vehicles for making stuff.
 
2014-06-20 02:13:40 PM

Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.


Well someone can't *be* your favorite character if they're dead.  At most, they *were* your favorite character ;).
 
2014-06-20 02:21:17 PM

Boojum2k: DjangoStonereaver: Also: CHAMPIONS came out in '81, SUPERWORLD in '83.

I blame old age. I don't think we messed with Champions until after Superworld, though, and went back or off to something else. Champions is good at modeling everything, but character creation is a pain. And I say that as someone who likes GURPS: Vehicles for making stuff.


True, but my personal saw for quality in a pen & paper RPG is how well you can run a game with only
your character sheet.  For all the math up front with CHAMPIONS, you get a character sheet with all the
pertinent details on it that minimizes the need to refer to the rulebook, which speeds play immensely by
removing the need to look up obscure rules and variants (the downfall of D&D regardless of edition).
BRP/SUPERWORLD shared this advantage as well and is even better at it than Champions.
 
2014-06-20 02:23:54 PM

Clever Neologism: Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.

Well someone can't *be* your favorite character if they're dead.  At most, they *were* your favorite character ;).


Catelyn and Robb were nobody's favorite characters.
 
2014-06-20 02:26:02 PM

AshCampbell: Siberian Khatru: He signed it, "George R. Martin".

Where did his second "R." come from?  WAR?

Why are they hiding the truth from us?

Pretty sure you're just being silly, but I was legitimately curious and looked it up.

Apparently he took Richard as a second middle name during his confirmation.


We Catholic folk do that as Confirmation is kinda like a second baptism where you actually get a say in things, but while I know hundreds of Catholics, I know of exactly zero who use their confirmation name, and I would wager the majority don;t even remember what it is
 Besides I have it on good authority that his middle name is actually "rail-road"
 
2014-06-20 02:30:32 PM

Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.


That's because they are some of the only likeable characters left. You have to like them or Cersei and Joffrey. Oh wait, Cersei and Tywin. No, that doesn't work...

Seriously though, Arya and Tyrion seem to me to be two of the only ones who stand a chance of surviving the purge, so it's safe to latch on to them.

And from Martin's letter, WTF is the "ultimate upmost"?
 
2014-06-20 02:33:38 PM

Twigz221: Clever Neologism: Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.

Well someone can't *be* your favorite character if they're dead.  At most, they *were* your favorite character ;).

Catelyn and Robb were nobody's favorite characters.


Nope, but Ned, Khal Drogo, Oberyn, Renly, Syrio, Joffrey (I'm sure...with someone...), John Snow, Ygritte, The Hound, or Tywin might have been.

And there are all those fun minor characters that are used for good, bloody, graphic murders.
 
2014-06-20 02:57:16 PM
And 35 East First Street in Bayonne N.J. is about to get the living sh*t Google Earthed out of it and the current residents wondering where all these neckbeards in Medieval clothing on their front lawn came from overnight.
 
2014-06-20 03:00:17 PM
Anybody else think that letter was dripping with sarcasm? I never read that issue, so I don't know if a hero falling down a manhole, a heroine mistaking a toy maker for a criminal, and the president tucking his kid into bed was actually exciting enough to legitimately gush over or if he was giving them shiat.
 
2014-06-20 03:03:58 PM
Dangit! I just couldn't resist taking a peek.

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-20 03:09:26 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: Anybody else think that letter was dripping with sarcasm? I never read that issue, so I don't know if a hero falling down a manhole, a heroine mistaking a toy maker for a criminal, and the president tucking his kid into bed was actually exciting enough to legitimately gush over or if he was giving them shiat.


I thought the same.
 
2014-06-20 03:47:16 PM
An obese, poorly groomed and poorly dressed dude is into comic books?   Shocking!
 
2014-06-20 03:58:47 PM
He's got the figure and grooming for it. In fact, he looks like the slightly older brother of Joe Kilmartin ofToronto's former Dragon Lady Comics.

wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com
 
2014-06-20 04:18:16 PM

Gonz: Worst. Comic Book Guy. Ever.


There can be only one.
 
2014-06-20 04:19:08 PM

Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.


The series has 3 more books. It's just a matter of time before he kills them both off before introducing Joffrey's bastard as the final player in the Game of Thrones and he ends up as the King of the 8 Kingdoms.

/that isn't a typo.
 
2014-06-20 04:50:07 PM
The thing that threw me in his letter is his dis on Paul Gambaccini.

Paul Gambaccini being a very successful BBC radio DJ before getting Saviled.

But, no, according to his wiki page, he was a massive comics geek back in his native USA, and even briefly co-ran a comics shop in old blighty.
 
2014-06-20 05:01:43 PM
KipKips:
Well someone can't *be* your favorite character if they're dead.  At most, they *were* your favorite character ;).

Syrio


Damn straight.  Syrio was awesome, his philosophy, his speech patterns, his jokes... great character.

"What is the one thing we say to death?  Not today."
 
2014-06-20 05:01:52 PM

KipKips: Twigz221: Clever Neologism: Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.

Well someone can't *be* your favorite character if they're dead.  At most, they *were* your favorite character ;).

Catelyn and Robb were nobody's favorite characters.

Nope, but Ned, Khal Drogo, Oberyn, Renly, Syrio, Joffrey (I'm sure...with someone...), John Snow, Ygritte, The Hound, or Tywin might have been.

And there are all those fun minor characters that are used for good, bloody, graphic murders.


I think I can safely say nobody likes Quentin Martell
 
2014-06-20 05:43:00 PM
Surprised people didn't realize what a huge nerd this guy is. Go to his website and check out the giant collection of figurines this guy owns.
 
2014-06-20 06:24:00 PM

texdent: Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.

Yet


IIRC Arya is his wife's favorite and Tyrion is his favorite, so they are both relatively safe.
 
2014-06-20 06:28:41 PM
"by gumbo"....

ROFL he was trolling
 
2014-06-20 06:53:28 PM

Summoner101: I think I can safely say nobody likes Quentin Martell


People like that assclown, Darkstar, so somebody probably likes Quentyn.
 
2014-06-20 07:05:52 PM

KipKips: Twigz221: Clever Neologism: Twigz221: Everyone always talks about how Martin kills off your favorite characters.

Then everyone says their favorite characters are Arya and Tyrion, who noticeably have not been killed.

Well someone can't *be* your favorite character if they're dead.  At most, they *were* your favorite character ;).

Catelyn and Robb were nobody's favorite characters.

Nope, but Ned, Khal Drogo, Oberyn, Renly, Syrio, Joffrey (I'm sure...with someone...), John Snow, Ygritte, The Hound, or Tywin might have been.

And there are all those fun minor characters that are used for good, bloody, graphic murders.


there are lots of clues that some fo the people you mentioned above are not in fact dead.

"When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai  shall be born again amidst smoke and salt. "
 
2014-06-20 07:25:26 PM

Boojum2k: The second R stands for:
"Rape and pillage loot and burn, but all in moderation.
If you do the things we say, you'll soon rule a nation.
Slaughter all your enemies, then kill your relations.
Rape and pillage loot and burn, but all in moderation!"


Actually, both Rs stand for rape.
 
2014-06-20 11:44:31 PM
I have to say that I'm far more invested in Wild Cards than the GoT books. I've been reading those for almost 30 years and I look forward to each new volume. I'd love to see Martin return to the series as something more than an editor.
There are plenty of great fantasy epics but there is very little original prose in a superheroic setting.
 
2014-06-21 01:16:03 AM
My kids used to read this shiat and I made fun of them for reading "elf books". Nice to see they are as popular as ever with the "Ohh look, shiny!" crowd.
 
2014-06-21 08:05:06 AM

whatshisname: My kids used to read this shiat and I made fun of them for reading "elf books". Nice to see they are as popular as ever with the "Ohh look, shiny!" crowd.


No elves in this series, but it's good to know there are always real life trolls in abundance.
 
2014-06-21 10:36:50 AM

whatshisname: My kids used to read this shiat and I made fun of them for reading "elf books". Nice to see they are as popular as ever with the "Ohh look, shiny!" crowd.


You should've done them a real favour and threatened to beat them up unless they gave you their lunch money, for you to spend on beer.
 
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