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2014-06-20 01:01:48 PM
Since Pluto is no longer a planet, NASA should turn the spacecraft around and aim it at Neptune instead.
you fell for it, didn't you?
Seriously, we shouldn't be wasting that much money going to a non-planet.
 
2014-06-20 01:56:19 PM
Why bother with Pluto?  That's just Goofy.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-06-20 02:20:07 PM
dittybopper

We can't turn the spacecraft around. But we can launch a few truckloads of gravel to bulk Pluto up so the IAU changes its mind.
 
2014-06-20 02:23:57 PM
Come on - really? Enough with the verbatim headlines. Fark's own rules:
Make the tagline funny.
Make sure the submission is at least somewhat humorous.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-20 03:00:20 PM

ZAZ: dittybopper

We can't turn the spacecraft around. But we can launch a few truckloads of gravel to bulk Pluto up so the IAU changes its mind.


No, seriously, just have some of us ham radio operators send it new instructions via Morse code, like how we communicated with the Juno spacecraft bound for Jupiter.
 
2014-06-20 03:01:41 PM
Clearly, NASA has intel that the Outsiders moved from Nereid back to Pluto.
 
2014-06-20 03:04:29 PM
BTW, I finally got my QSL card for that:

img.fark.net

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-20 03:26:25 PM

dittybopper: BTW, I finally got my QSL card for that:


NICE!

10m though? I assume you hit it with a directional antenna of some sort...
 
2014-06-20 03:45:50 PM

dittybopper: Since Pluto is no longer a planet, NASA should turn the spacecraft around and aim it at Neptune instead.

Seriously, we shouldn't be wasting that much money going to a non-planet.


please don't fall for this

The fact Pluto is not a planet is really disgusting. There is actually a lot of money at stake. An anti-Disney lobbying company gave Neil DeGrasse Tyson a lot of money to do his spiel.

 
2014-06-20 03:47:49 PM

Destructor: dittybopper: BTW, I finally got my QSL card for that:

NICE!

10m though? I assume you hit it with a directional antenna of some sort...


The Juno spacecraft has a wideband radio receiver in the 10 meter range to listen to the radio emissions of the interaction between Jupiter's magnetic field and Io's flux tube.

Juno was doing a close flyby of Earth to get a gravitational boost on its way to Jupiter, and as a kind of test of the sensitivity of the receiver, as well as a nifty public relations stunt, it was arranged to have a website to tell hams when to "key down" their transceivers so that they were all transmitting at the same time.  Each "dit" lasted 30 seconds, and the entire sequence took 6.5 minutes to complete, just to send 2 letters.

Juno actually heard us:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/?id=1262
 
2014-06-20 03:59:55 PM
Can I just say "Fark yes!"
 
2014-06-20 04:01:55 PM

dittybopper: Juno actually heard us:


That's pretty cool.
 
2014-06-20 04:03:18 PM

theorellior: Can I just say "Fark yes!"


I've been waiting to see what Pluto looks like ever since, well, for-farkin'-ever.  Since Pioneer 10 and 11, at least.
 
2014-06-20 04:05:02 PM
machoprogrammer, I wouldn't dream of it.
yes, I would
 
2014-06-20 04:05:55 PM

theorellior: dittybopper: Juno actually heard us:

That's pretty cool.


I don't always contact interplanetary spacecraft, but when I do, I do it with Morse code.
 
2014-06-20 04:08:10 PM

dittybopper: I've been waiting to see what Pluto looks like ever since, well, for-farkin'-ever. Since Pioneer 10 and 11, at least.


I'd say it really hit me when they discovered Charon. It's like, "Pluto has a moon? Well, boy howdy, we gotta go take a look!"
 
2014-06-20 04:08:53 PM
i60.tinypic.com
 
2014-06-20 04:25:58 PM

theorellior: dittybopper: I've been waiting to see what Pluto looks like ever since, well, for-farkin'-ever. Since Pioneer 10 and 11, at least.

I'd say it really hit me when they discovered Charon. It's like, "Pluto has a moon? Well, boy howdy, we gotta go take a look!"


Even aside from that, we just needed to do it.  Glad to see we're almost there.
 
2014-06-20 04:27:31 PM

dittybopper: Even aside from that, we just needed to do it. Glad to see we're almost there.


This mission and MESSENGER give me a big happy. We're on the verge of mapping every planet that I learned when I was five.
 
2014-06-20 05:13:28 PM

dittybopper: Since Pluto is no longer a planet, NASA should turn the spacecraft around and aim it at Neptune instead.
you fell for it, didn't you?
Seriously, we shouldn't be wasting that much money going to a non-planet.


Almost.

I made my views on the Pluto-is-a-planet crowd quite clear in a redlit thread t'other day.

I'll just leave these here.

img.fark.net
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-20 05:50:42 PM

iron de havilland: Almost.

I made my views on the Pluto-is-a-planet crowd quite clear in a redlit thread t'other day.

I'll just leave these here.


Wonky orbits aside, most people I've talked to become much more accepting of Pluto's demotion once they're told that Pluto is smaller and lighter than Earth's own moon. They've never had a problem with Luna never being considered a planet, and they tend to be much more open to additional details / reasons after that.
 
2014-06-20 05:55:47 PM

dittybopper: theorellior: dittybopper: Juno actually heard us:

That's pretty cool.

I don't always contact interplanetary spacecraft, but when I do, I do it with Morse code.


That explains the time frame of the QSO... :-)

Congrats!!!
 
2014-06-20 06:00:45 PM

theorellior: dittybopper: Even aside from that, we just needed to do it. Glad to see we're almost there.

This mission and MESSENGER give me a big happy. We're on the verge of mapping every planet that I learned when I was five.


But, wait until they get the Google Street View.  That's gonna be way cool.
 
2014-06-20 06:04:52 PM

dittybopper: Since Pluto is no longer a planet, NASA should turn the spacecraft around and aim it at Neptune instead.
you fell for it, didn't you?
Seriously, we shouldn't be wasting that much money going to a non-planet.


Heh, a new reason to favorite someone. ;b
 
2014-06-20 06:06:29 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-20 06:10:33 PM

Flt209er: iron de havilland: Almost.

I made my views on the Pluto-is-a-planet crowd quite clear in a redlit thread t'other day.

I'll just leave these here.

Wonky orbits aside, most people I've talked to become much more accepting of Pluto's demotion once they're told that Pluto is smaller and lighter than Earth's own moon. They've never had a problem with Luna never being considered a planet, and they tend to be much more open to additional details / reasons after that.


Plus it makes sense because if they didn't demote Pluto recently, they would eventually have to. We're only going to find more and more KBOs of similar size, composition, and orbital characteristics. We either have 8 planets to hundreds. There's just no way to go back to 9 without having to make a weird exception for Pluto.
 
2014-06-20 06:24:51 PM
How many Kerbals are going?
 
2014-06-20 07:01:52 PM

Mad_Radhu: Flt209er: iron de havilland: Almost.

I made my views on the Pluto-is-a-planet crowd quite clear in a redlit thread t'other day.

I'll just leave these here.

Wonky orbits aside, most people I've talked to become much more accepting of Pluto's demotion once they're told that Pluto is smaller and lighter than Earth's own moon. They've never had a problem with Luna never being considered a planet, and they tend to be much more open to additional details / reasons after that.

Plus it makes sense because if they didn't demote Pluto recently, they would eventually have to. We're only going to find more and more KBOs of similar size, composition, and orbital characteristics. We either have 8 planets to hundreds. There's just no way to go back to 9 without having to make a weird exception for Pluto.


Or, unless they find another ice giant out beyond Pluto. There's some rumbling that there are too many KBOs out there so *something* must be shepherding them.
 
2014-06-20 08:58:28 PM

theorellior: Mad_Radhu: Flt209er: iron de havilland: Almost.

I made my views on the Pluto-is-a-planet crowd quite clear in a redlit thread t'other day.

I'll just leave these here.

Wonky orbits aside, most people I've talked to become much more accepting of Pluto's demotion once they're told that Pluto is smaller and lighter than Earth's own moon. They've never had a problem with Luna never being considered a planet, and they tend to be much more open to additional details / reasons after that.

Plus it makes sense because if they didn't demote Pluto recently, they would eventually have to. We're only going to find more and more KBOs of similar size, composition, and orbital characteristics. We either have 8 planets to hundreds. There's just no way to go back to 9 without having to make a weird exception for Pluto.

Or, unless they find another ice giant out beyond Pluto. There's some rumbling that there are too many KBOs out there so *something* must be shepherding them.


upload.wikimedia.org

The Voyagers have found nothing, and it's a quite crazy idea to posit that there may be a planet in the Kuiper belt.
 
2014-06-20 10:46:01 PM

iron de havilland: [upload.wikimedia.org image 500x271]

The Voyagers have found nothing, and it's a quite crazy idea to posit that there may be a planet in the Kuiper belt.


Link from a few months ago.
 
2014-06-20 11:08:10 PM

Ivo Shandor: iron de havilland: [upload.wikimedia.org image 500x271]

The Voyagers have found nothing, and it's a quite crazy idea to posit that there may be a planet in the Kuiper belt.

Link from a few months ago.


There literally can't be a planet in the Kuiper Belt. Impossible. A monstrosity the size of Jupiter somehow chugging along next to Kuiper pebbles and Pluto? Still not a planet.

One of the requirements for being a planet is having cleared your neighborhood.
 
2014-06-20 11:23:05 PM

Mad_Radhu: We either have 8 planets to hundreds.


I'm OK with having hundreds.
 
2014-06-20 11:27:44 PM

Destructor: dittybopper: theorellior: dittybopper: Juno actually heard us:

That's pretty cool.

I don't always contact interplanetary spacecraft, but when I do, I do it with Morse code.

That explains the time frame of the QSO... :-)

Congrats!!!


I actually almost didn't do it.  I was working from home and  "reading the mail" on PSK31 on 20 meters that day when I saw someone mention it, so I quick looked it up, then tuned the rig up on 10 meters.

Here is the original redlit thread from that day:
http://www.fark.com/comments/7968362/Not-news-A-NASA-spacecraft-is-g oi ng-to-fly-by-Earth-today-News-NASA-wants-ham-radio-operators-to-transm it-to-it-FARK-In-Morse-code
 
2014-06-21 12:38:21 AM
I'd just like to point out that many sane and responsible adults agreed, with straight faces and no obvious signs of inebriation, to spend years designing and fabricating something that would be launched into space and take nine years to reach its destination.  And why?  For the most noble reason of all: because why not?
 
2014-06-21 01:07:20 AM

mofa: I'd just like to point out that many sane and responsible adults agreed, with straight faces and no obvious signs of inebriation, to spend years designing and fabricating something that would be launched into space and take nine years to reach its destination.  And why?  For the most noble reason of all: because why not?


Because we need to know.
 
2014-06-21 02:34:38 AM

ZAZ: dittybopper


We can't turn the spacecraft around. But we can launch a few truckloads of gravel to bulk Pluto up so the IAU changes its mind.


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

I smell a minor indie sci-fi hit.

/mostly joking
 
2014-06-21 06:55:41 AM

dittybopper: Mad_Radhu: We either have 8 planets to hundreds.

I'm OK with having hundreds.


See, the thing is that there are 8 major bodies in the solar system that, as we currently understand, accreted from the same disc of matter. They share the same ecliptical plane, within a few degrees of eccentricity, and orbit the sun in elliptical orbits that we can explain with our knowledge of how the solar system formed.

Previous bodies that were once called planets are now recognised to be asteroids, KBOs, dwarf planets...

Should all fruit be called apples?
 
2014-06-22 12:29:30 AM

iron de havilland: dittybopper: Mad_Radhu: We either have 8 planets to hundreds.

I'm OK with having hundreds.

See, the thing is that there are 8 major bodies in the solar system that, as we currently understand, accreted from the same disc of matter. They share the same ecliptical plane, within a few degrees of eccentricity, and orbit the sun in elliptical orbits that we can explain with our knowledge of how the solar system formed.

Previous bodies that were once called planets are now recognised to be asteroids, KBOs, dwarf planets...

Should all fruit be called apples?


A persimmon may not be as big or as sweet as an apple, but that doesn't mean it isn't a fruit.
 
2014-06-22 04:26:10 AM

dittybopper: iron de havilland: dittybopper: Mad_Radhu: We either have 8 planets to hundreds.

I'm OK with having hundreds.

See, the thing is that there are 8 major bodies in the solar system that, as we currently understand, accreted from the same disc of matter. They share the same ecliptical plane, within a few degrees of eccentricity, and orbit the sun in elliptical orbits that we can explain with our knowledge of how the solar system formed.

Previous bodies that were once called planets are now recognised to be asteroids, KBOs, dwarf planets...

Should all fruit be called apples?

A persimmon may not be as big or as sweet as an apple, but that doesn't mean it isn't a fruit.


Yeah, that's where the analogy kind of breaks down as persimmons have more in common with other fruit than Pluto has with the 8 planets.
 
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