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2014-06-20 12:22:49 AM
Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?
 
2014-06-20 12:58:58 AM

John Buck 41: Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?


The judge is doing the right thing - the child needs to be with  someone:
The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Margaret Noe, disagreed, adding, 'If the child is not in the care and custody of the father, the child should be in the care and custody of the mother.'


Now, maybe in John Buckistan, children can be left by the side of the road for a few months until one parent comes home from a deployment, but in Realityville, they kinda need a home to go to. The permanent custody issues can be resolved when the father gets home.
 
2014-06-20 01:01:52 AM
The kid was removed from the biological mother by CPS, yet that seems to mean nothing.

Judge Noes got paid off by someone.
 
2014-06-20 01:03:31 AM

Theaetetus: John Buck 41: Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?

The judge is doing the right thing - the child needs to be with  someone:
The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Margaret Noe, disagreed, adding, 'If the child is not in the care and custody of the father, the child should be in the care and custody of the mother.'

Now, maybe in John Buckistan, children can be left by the side of the road for a few months until one parent comes home from a deployment, but in Realityville, they kinda need a home to go to. The permanent custody issues can be resolved when the father gets home.


According to the article the child is currently living with the dad's wife, so she's staying with her step-mom and has a home.  Also, it looks like the dad wants to resolve the custody dispute when he gets home, the judge just refuses to postpone the hearing.

Perhaps he should have had his new wife officially adopt the daughter before he left on deployment, though I'm not sure if that would have required the ex wife's consent, but if the dad has custody I don't see what the big deal is about her staying with his wife.
 
2014-06-20 02:15:47 AM
Yeah, unfortunately, this happens a lot ...
 
2014-06-20 06:28:35 AM

Theaetetus: Now, maybe in John Buckistan, children can be left by the side of the road for a few months until one parent comes home from a deployment, but in Realityville, they kinda need a home to go to. The permanent custody issues can be resolved when the father gets home.

www.wired.com

 
2014-06-20 07:10:44 AM
Oh, Noe.
 
2014-06-20 07:38:21 AM
FOX News is creaming their pants over this story I bet
 
2014-06-20 07:42:15 AM
Relax everyone, it's only the Daily Fail. I doubt these people even exist.
 
2014-06-20 07:46:37 AM
The Noes knows.
 
2014-06-20 07:47:04 AM
Is it just me, or did they repeat that story between every picture?
 
2014-06-20 07:47:17 AM
I'm really surprised the judge is a woman.
 
2014-06-20 07:47:48 AM

postnobills: Relax everyone, it's only the Daily Fail. I doubt these people even exist.


This.
 
2014-06-20 07:47:53 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Theaetetus: John Buck 41: Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?

The judge is doing the right thing - the child needs to be with  someone:
The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Margaret Noe, disagreed, adding, 'If the child is not in the care and custody of the father, the child should be in the care and custody of the mother.'

Now, maybe in John Buckistan, children can be left by the side of the road for a few months until one parent comes home from a deployment, but in Realityville, they kinda need a home to go to. The permanent custody issues can be resolved when the father gets home.

According to the article the child is currently living with the dad's wife, so she's staying with her step-mom and has a home.  Also, it looks like the dad wants to resolve the custody dispute when he gets home, the judge just refuses to postpone the hearing.

Perhaps he should have had his new wife officially adopt the daughter before he left on deployment, though I'm not sure if that would have required the ex wife's consent, but if the dad has custody I don't see what the big deal is about her staying with his wife.


Yes, adoption requires consent of any living parents. My dad almost blew a gasket when my mom wanted her boyfriend to adopt me and my brother. As a 7 year old, that was a fun couple of years.

Also, don't forget that men get 0 brownie points in family court. Might even be -50.
 
2014-06-20 07:48:23 AM
I'll be damned. Clicked link expecting some manufactured outrage. Turns out this IS an outrage, assuming the basic facts of the story are true, which is open to question considering it's the Daily Fail. shiatty family court judges do exist, though, and blind hogs do find the occasional acorn.
 
2014-06-20 07:48:34 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Theaetetus: John Buck 41: Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?

The judge is doing the right thing - the child needs to be with  someone:
The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Margaret Noe, disagreed, adding, 'If the child is not in the care and custody of the father, the child should be in the care and custody of the mother.'

Now, maybe in John Buckistan, children can be left by the side of the road for a few months until one parent comes home from a deployment, but in Realityville, they kinda need a home to go to. The permanent custody issues can be resolved when the father gets home.

According to the article the child is currently living with the dad's wife, so she's staying with her step-mom and has a home.  Also, it looks like the dad wants to resolve the custody dispute when he gets home, the judge just refuses to postpone the hearing.

Perhaps he should have had his new wife officially adopt the daughter before he left on deployment, though I'm not sure if that would have required the ex wife's consent, but if the dad has custody I don't see what the big deal is about her staying with his wife.


yes it requires consent.  You can't just go adopting people willy nilly
 
2014-06-20 07:48:56 AM

Aulus: The kid was removed from the biological mother by CPS, yet that seems to mean nothing.

Judge Noes got paid off by someone.


No, not paid off. Well, not directly in any case. She just went to enough feminist sponsored 'conferences' to see him for the horrible parent he is because he has a p3nis.

This is the family court men are forced to deal with everyday. Most guys don't have the luck of their story becoming 'news' people see. Judge Margaret Noes should be removed from the bench of family court for her despicable actions.

/just because he doesn't have a vagina doesn't mean he's a bad parent
//He didn't have CPS take the kid away, mom (who has a vagina) did
 
2014-06-20 07:51:15 AM

LazyMedia: I'll be damned. Clicked link expecting some manufactured outrage. Turns out this IS an outrage, assuming the basic facts of the story are true, which is open to question considering it's the Daily Fail. shiatty family court judges do exist, though, and blind hogs do find the occasional acorn.


I know a guardian ad litem who, and more than a few dads personally, who would say it's far more common than you think.
 
2014-06-20 07:51:59 AM
+18A sailor serving on a submarine is locked in a fight a world away to keep custody of his 6-year-old girl. Navy submariner Matthew Hindes is stationed on a submarine in the Pacific. But he?s been ordered to appear in a Michigan courtroom Monday in a custody battle with his ex-wife Angela involving their daughter, Kaylee. Hindes was given permanent custody of Kaylee in 2010, after she was reportedly removed from Angela?s home by child protective services. Kaylee has been living with Hindes? wife Benita-Lynn ? her step-mother ? in Washington state while Hindes is deployed aboard a nuclear submarine in the Pacific Ocean. Despite Hindes? assignment, a judge has ordered Hindes to appear in court or face contempt. Hindes? lawyers argue he should be protected by the Service members Civil Relief Act, which states courts in custody cases may ?grant a stay of proceedings for a minimum period of 90 days? to defendants serving their country. The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Mar+18A sailor serving on a submarine is locked in a fight a world away to keep custody of his 6-year-old girl. Navy submariner Matthew Hindes is stationed on a submarine in the Pacific. But he?s been ordered to appear in a Michigan courtroom Monday in a custody battle with his ex-wife Angela involving their daughter, Kaylee. Hindes was given permanent custody of Kaylee in 2010, after she was reportedly removed from Angela?s home by child protective services. Kaylee has been living with Hindes? wife Benita-Lynn ? her step-mother ? in Washington state while Hindes is deployed aboard a nuclear submarine in the Pacific Ocean. Despite Hindes? assignment, a judge has ordered Hindes to appear in court or face contempt. Hindes? lawyers argue he should be protected by the Service members Civil Relief Act, which states courts in custody cases may ?grant a stay of proceedings for a minimum period of 90 days? to defendants serving their country. The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Mar+18A sailor serving on a submarine is locked in a fight a world away to keep custody of his 6-year-old girl. Navy submariner Matthew Hindes is stationed on a submarine in the Pacific. But he?s been ordered to appear in a Michigan courtroom Monday in a custody battle with his ex-wife Angela involving their daughter, Kaylee. Hindes was given permanent custody of Kaylee in 2010, after she was reportedly removed from Angela?s home by child protective services. Kaylee has been living with Hindes? wife Benita-Lynn ? her step-mother ? in Washington state while Hindes is deployed aboard a nuclear submarine in the Pacific Ocean. Despite Hindes? assignment, a judge has ordered Hindes to appear in court or face contempt. Hindes? lawyers argue he should be protected by the Service members Civil Relief Act, which states courts in custody cases may ?grant a stay of proceedings for a minimum period of 90 days? to defendants serving their country. The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Mar+18A sailor serving on a submarine is locked in a fight a world away to keep custody of his 6-year-old girl. Navy submariner Matthew Hindes is stationed on a submarine in the Pacific. But he?s been ordered to appear in a Michigan courtroom Monday in a custody battle with his ex-wife Angela involving their daughter, Kaylee. Hindes was given permanent custody of Kaylee in 2010, after she was reportedly removed from Angela?s home by child protective services. Kaylee has been living with Hindes? wife Benita-Lynn ? her step-mother ? in Washington state while Hindes is deployed aboard a nuclear submarine in the Pacific Ocean. Despite Hindes? assignment, a judge has ordered Hindes to appear in court or face contempt. Hindes? lawyers argue he should be protected by the Service members Civil Relief Act, which states courts in custody cases may ?grant a stay of proceedings for a minimum period of 90 days? to defendants serving their country. The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Mar+18A sailor serving on a submarine is locked in a fight a world away to keep custody of his 6-year-old girl. Navy submariner Matthew Hindes is stationed on a submarine in the Pacific. But he?s been ordered to appear in a Michigan courtroom Monday in a custody battle with his ex-wife Angela involving their daughter, Kaylee. Hindes was given permanent custody of Kaylee in 2010, after she was reportedly removed from Angela?s home by child protective services. Kaylee has been living with Hindes? wife Benita-Lynn ? her step-mother ? in Washington state while Hindes is deployed aboard a nuclear submarine in the Pacific Ocean. Despite Hindes? assignment, a judge has ordered Hindes to appear in court or face contempt. Hindes? lawyers argue he should be protected by the Service members Civil Relief Act, which states courts in custody cases may ?grant a stay of proceedings for a minimum period of 90 days? to defendants serving their country. The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Mar+18A sailor serving on a submarine is locked in a fight a world away to keep custody of his 6-year-old girl. Navy submariner Matthew Hindes is stationed on a submarine in the Pacific. But he?s been ordered to appear in a Michigan courtroom Monday in a custody battle with his ex-wife Angela involving their daughter, Kaylee. Hindes was given permanent custody of Kaylee in 2010, after she was reportedly removed from Angela?s home by child protective services. Kaylee has been living with Hindes? wife Benita-Lynn ? her step-mother ? in Washington state while Hindes is deployed aboard a nuclear submarine in the Pacific Ocean. Despite Hindes? assignment, a judge has ordered Hindes to appear in court or face contempt. Hindes? lawyers argue he should be protected by the Service members Civil Relief Act, which states courts in custody cases may ?grant a stay of proceedings for a minimum period of 90 days? to defendants serving their country. The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Mar+18A sailor serving on a submarine is locked in a fight a world away to keep custody of his 6-year-old girl. Navy submariner Matthew Hindes is stationed on a submarine in the Pacific. But he?s been ordered to appear in a Michigan courtroom Monday in a custody battle with his ex-wife Angela involving their daughter, Kaylee. Hindes was given permanent custody of Kaylee in 2010, after she was reportedly removed from Angela?s home by child protective services. Kaylee has been living with Hindes? wife Benita-Lynn ? her step-mother ? in Washington state while Hindes is deployed aboard a nuclear submarine in the Pacific Ocean. Despite Hindes? assignment, a judge has ordered Hindes to appear in court or face contempt. Hindes? lawyers argue he should be protected by the Service members Civil Relief Act, which states courts in custody cases may ?grant a stay of proceedings for a minimum period of 90 days? to defendants serving their country. The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Mar
 
2014-06-20 07:52:03 AM
Bad judge
 
2014-06-20 07:54:07 AM
Custodial parent gets the child support.  Mom needs money, child=paycheck.  Also, in Ohio anyways, mom gets legal aid so it doesn't cost her a dime to petition for custody.  Bet it's the same where she lives and she's just hoping for that free money lottery win.  People with steady incomes will always be targets for people without them.  Seen this so many times and it's never about the kid...
 
2014-06-20 07:54:18 AM
Dammit, Kaylee! Don't make me turn this submarine around!
 
2014-06-20 07:55:13 AM

svanmeter: Bad judge


more like idiot, moron and just being a ***hole
 
2014-06-20 07:55:19 AM
Custody battle with a female judge? There's your problem.
 
2014-06-20 07:56:01 AM

John Buck 41: Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?


"He" is called Margaret and according to an unrelated story with a photo looks like this:

statelineobserver.com
 
2014-06-20 07:56:17 AM
This makes my blood boil. My husband had full custody - for very good reasons - of his son, and when he went to a 9 month Air Force school, the boy went to his egg donor temporarily because she lived nearby and the boy could continue in his school. Two weeks later, she married a guy she met on the internet and moved the boy 150 miles away. When school was over, and he tried to get his son back, she hid. The court system said he had to start over to legally gain custody since he'd voluntarily let the boy stay with her. For over a year, my husband couldn't get his son on the phone, had her bail at the last minute when he'd arrange to see his son, and other farked up stunts. He finally came to visit us, and never went back. We had an emergency hearing and the judge gave full custody back to my husband. I would love to legally adopt him but as long as his egg donor is alive, she'd have to sign off on it. She wouldn't do it if her life depended on it, spiteful biatch.
 
2014-06-20 07:57:09 AM
Another Liberal judge...
 
2014-06-20 07:57:15 AM

Aulus: The kid was removed from the biological mother by CPS, yet that seems to mean nothing.

Judge Noes got paid off by someone.


Nah, family court is just a farked up mess.
 
2014-06-20 07:57:54 AM
Um... honestly I think submarine deployments are a reasonably legitimate reason to turn the other parent's partial custody into full custody plus visitation.

The thing about submarine deployments are that you're  completely out of contact for the bulk of the duration, there's not really any phoning home from under the sea for obvious reasons of completely defeating the purpose of a submarine.  If he's on one of the deep subs, that means no communication whatsoever for several years at a time.

With normal military deployments, sure, leaving the kid with the new wife gives the father some reasonable level of oversight, but frankly for submariners that would be tantamount to granting custody to the new wife, who barring adoption is by definition a noncustodial guardian.

So... yeah, this is perfectly reasonable, legally.

That said, if the kid was removed by CPS and given to the man's sole custody he should have pushed it and actually gotten his new wife a full-on adoption.  Shouldn't have been that difficult if the situation was that unambiguous.
 
2014-06-20 07:58:53 AM
So the judge is saying that divorced and remarried parents with an essentially-guaranteed full-time job with great benefits (military; and I say those above qualifiers in comparison to full time civilian jobs) don't deserve to keep their children? Should the father retire from his military career or would that also screw him over (no job no custody!)

Is he going to go after happily married with kids service members next?
 
2014-06-20 07:59:05 AM

DerAppie: John Buck 41: Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?

"He" is called Margaret and according to an unrelated story with a photo looks like this:

[statelineobserver.com image 365x426]


Figures, a woman judge siding with already found to be unfit by CPS mom.
 
2014-06-20 07:59:12 AM
Some states, including mine, forbid any court proceedings against a deployed member of the military until they are on furlough or off deployment.
 
2014-06-20 07:59:49 AM

Aulus: The kid was removed from the biological mother by CPS, yet that seems to mean nothing.

Judge Noes got paid off by someone.


yumbrad.com
 
2014-06-20 08:00:55 AM
Er, by "adoption" I suppose I mean an official order recognizing the new wife as a custodial guardian of whatever kind the state allows, I think literal adoption would require the ex-wife to willingly sign off on it and whether it can be compelled varies from state to state.
 
2014-06-20 08:01:03 AM

ifky: Custody battle with a female judge? There's your problem.


yourenothelping.jpg
 
2014-06-20 08:03:08 AM
"Congratulations, sir.  It's a bouncing baby, family court football.  May the most vindictive person win when she becomes a tug of war rag."  I mean, that is pretty much what we do with kids now, isn't it?.  Burp them out and then use them as pry bars in the endless quest to f*ck over whoever it was we had the kid with, so everybody knows we're the "real parent"?  The judge looks like every dump gutted, menopausal hausfrau screaming sh*t at people at a little league game.
 
2014-06-20 08:03:17 AM
The Child Protective Services people in Michigan are useless and damaging to fathers in particular.  My ex is a raging alcoholic and I fought to retain custody of my son for years.  It became a huge strain on me, my relationship to my son, and my current marriage.  The CPS people were useless at best and more often made life more difficult for my son by requiring him to return to his mom.  Fark them.
 
2014-06-20 08:05:28 AM
This is actually my home town ironically. I think our last national news story was the mouth-wash chugging DUI case.

Yeah go Adrian.......
 
2014-06-20 08:05:34 AM
Booker DeWitt is going back to Wounded Knee
 
2014-06-20 08:06:31 AM

pueblonative: ifky: Custody battle with a female judge? There's your problem.

yourenothelping.jpg



Of course not. He's not a judge.

I blame his parents, really. They should have encouraged him to go to law school.
 
2014-06-20 08:07:38 AM

Jim_Callahan: If he's on one of the deep subs, that means no communication whatsoever for several years at a time.


You have a very weird view of how things work.
 
2014-06-20 08:08:22 AM

Theaetetus: John Buck 41: Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?

The judge is doing the right thing - the child needs to be with  someone:
The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Margaret Noe, disagreed, adding, 'If the child is not in the care and custody of the father, the child should be in the care and custody of the mother.'

Now, maybe in John Buckistan, children can be left by the side of the road for a few months until one parent comes home from a deployment, but in Realityville, they kinda need a home to go to. The permanent custody issues can be resolved when the father gets home.


The father has FULL custody, and the kid had to be removed from his ex's home by CPS.  The judge cannot say that he doesn't have the right to let his current wife, the girl's stepmother, take care of the kid while he is deployed; it's not, as you say, like he's leaving her on the side of the road.
Now if it's a visitation rights issue while he's deployed, that'd be something else; but this seems more like a woman who isn't allowed custody of her daughter while the father is at home claiming she should be given custody while he is deployed.
So she can have her daughter against his wishes.
And then move.
And never let him see his daughter again.
 
2014-06-20 08:09:52 AM

Theaetetus: John Buck 41: Let's see a pic of the asshole judge so we can mock the shiat out of him. Oh, wait...we don't really need a pic to do that, do we?

The judge is doing the right thing - the child needs to be with  someone:
The judge hearing the case, circuit court judge Margaret Noe, disagreed, adding, 'If the child is not in the care and custody of the father, the child should be in the care and custody of the mother.'

Now, maybe in John Buckistan, children can be left by the side of the road for a few months until one parent comes home from a deployment, but in Realityville, they kinda need a home to go to. The permanent custody issues can be resolved when the father gets home.


stevenarch.tymoon.eu
 
2014-06-20 08:10:16 AM

peg_leg: The Child Protective Services people in Michigan are useless and damaging to fathers in particular.  My ex is a raging alcoholic and I fought to retain custody of my son for years.  It became a huge strain on me, my relationship to my son, and my current marriage.  The CPS people were useless at best and more often made life more difficult for my son by requiring him to return to his mom.  Fark them.


That's your story, Chief. Did ot ever occur to you that your son might want to be with his mother, even if she's not a saint? Children tend to form strong attachments to the people that give birth to them.
 
2014-06-20 08:12:20 AM

Snarfangel: pueblonative: ifky: Custody battle with a female judge? There's your problem.

yourenothelping.jpg


Of course not. He's not a judge.

I blame his parents, really. They should have encouraged him to go to law school.


                                           images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-06-20 08:12:53 AM

pueblonative: ifky: Custody battle with a female judge? There's your problem.

yourenothelping.jpg


He's right...Michigan family courts are slanted heavily towards women. Mom could be an escaped serial killer and the State of Michigan would still award her custody, because ovaries.

/glad to make it out of that shiathole
 
2014-06-20 08:12:55 AM

Macinfarker: Some states, including mine, forbid any court proceedings against a deployed member of the military until they are on furlough or off deployment.


I don't think this is considered to be a court proceeding AGAINST the father, so much as a court proceeding FOR the child. That's how family court is supposed to work, anyway. I'm certainly not going to trust the Daily Mail to say which parent is in the right, here; the CPS removal from the mother could have been the fault of a bad ex-boyfriend. It's possible that this case should have been resolved months ago, but the bubblehead dragged his feet and pissed off the judge. There are all SORTS of possibilities, and you can't trust the Daily Fail to report them if it's going to get in the way of its "liberals and biatches be wack" meme.
 
2014-06-20 08:13:06 AM
where are the oppressed fathers?  Oh.
 
2014-06-20 08:13:41 AM

willfullyobscure: peg_leg: The Child Protective Services people in Michigan are useless and damaging to fathers in particular.  My ex is a raging alcoholic and I fought to retain custody of my son for years.  It became a huge strain on me, my relationship to my son, and my current marriage.  The CPS people were useless at best and more often made life more difficult for my son by requiring him to return to his mom.  Fark them.

That's your story, Chief. Did ot ever occur to you that your son might want to be with his mother, even if she's not a saint? Children tend to form strong attachments to the people that give birth to them.


7/10. Obvious Trolly McTrollson name docks three points.
 
2014-06-20 08:13:59 AM

LazyMedia: I don't think this is considered to be a court proceeding AGAINST the father, so much as a court proceeding FOR the child.


You have a job waiting in government public relations.
 
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