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(Daily Mail)   After visiting Colorado, British reporter predicts there would be suicides, killings, and toddlers in the hospital if England legalized marijuana   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 126
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2014-06-20 12:04:53 AM
cbswzlx2.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-20 12:21:33 AM
Wow, the Daily Mail is trying their darndest to outdo the sensationalist hype of Reefer Madness.
 
2014-06-20 12:29:53 AM
I think they took the brown acid
 
2014-06-20 02:41:07 AM
I bought some pot from a cockney dude in London once. It was pretty easy.
 
2014-06-20 03:11:59 AM
Good lord the Daily Mail is retarded.

But, because of the 36.2 per cent tax levied by the state on cannabis sold through these dispensaries, it can be obtained cheaper on the black market, which some licensed producers are secretly supplying.
As Lieutenant Mark Comte of the narcotics enforcement unit in the city of Colorado Springs explains, legalisation has boosted illegal drug dealing: 'If you can get it tax-free on the corner, you're going to get it on the corner.'


My ass legalization has BOOSTED illegal drug dealing. Some are still getting it duty-free, same as before, big deal. Take your tax money and deal with it, narco cop, before your position is shelved.
 
2014-06-20 03:28:43 AM

violentsalvation: Good lord the Daily Mail is retarded.

But, because of the 36.2 per cent tax levied by the state on cannabis sold through these dispensaries, it can be obtained cheaper on the black market, which some licensed producers are secretly supplying.
As Lieutenant Mark Comte of the narcotics enforcement unit in the city of Colorado Springs explains, legalisation has boosted illegal drug dealing: 'If you can get it tax-free on the corner, you're going to get it on the corner.'


My ass legalization has BOOSTED illegal drug dealing. Some are still getting it duty-free, same as before, big deal. Take your tax money and deal with it, narco cop, before your position is shelved.


WHY the fark would ANYONE buy it on the corner when you cant buy it legally 30ft away?? LOL
Seriously, the WHOLE reason for buying it legally is to get KNOWN quality from a KNOWN source.

Or you can buy cheap skunk weed?? LOL
fark that
 
2014-06-20 04:19:21 AM
Subby, as the author of that "article" writes for the Daily Heil, it's factually incorrect to refer to him as a reporter. The term you're looking for is "obnoxious shiatweasel"
 
2014-06-20 06:37:42 AM
The conservative English press has been reduced to reefer madness and pics of Kardashian family skanks. How long until we get a US equivalent?
 
2014-06-20 06:42:10 AM

scottydoesntknow: [cbswzlx2.files.wordpress.com image 465x465]


I never knew!  I thought they were workaholics and my presence was a comical interlude from the extended lull!
 
2014-06-20 06:42:10 AM
And don't forget it also turns everyone gay.
 
2014-06-20 06:42:58 AM
Let me guess, 60+ year old white guy with a face that looks like he's spent his entire life pissed off about one thing or another.
...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyBHgYl2Fto

Hmm, 45 year old dude with that weird disability that only British people ever seem to get where they talk out their nose instead of their mouth.

Smells like a professional troll to me.
 
2014-06-20 06:44:56 AM

abhorrent1: And don't forget it also turns everyone gay.


But all the men grow boobs, so it's not really gay
 
2014-06-20 06:48:33 AM

Rapmaster2000: The conservative English press has been reduced to reefer madness and pics of Kardashian family skanks. How long until we get a US equivalent?


Figure out what Britain's most entitled, self-pitying demographic is, then ask them which minority group they believe is causing all of their problems.  Then make one of those minorities PM.

If that doesn't do the trick, try getting Ofcom to suck Rupert Murdoch's dick just a little bit harder and see if that helps.
 
2014-06-20 06:48:42 AM

Rapmaster2000: The conservative English press has been reduced to reefer madness and pics of Kardashian family skanks. How long until we get a US equivalent?


You have a twisted sense of humor.
 
2014-06-20 06:49:01 AM

Deacon Blue: abhorrent1: And don't forget it also turns everyone gay.

But all the men grow boobs, so it's not really gay


Men with boobs, women with penises, cats and dogs living together, Mass hysteria!
 
2014-06-20 06:49:27 AM

dookdookdook: Rapmaster2000: The conservative English press has been reduced to reefer madness and pics of Kardashian family skanks. How long until we get a US equivalent?

Figure out what Britain's most entitled, self-pitying demographic is, then ask them which minority group they believe is causing all of their problems.  Then make one of those minorities PM.

If that doesn't do the trick, try getting Ofcom to suck Rupert Murdoch's dick just a little bit harder and see if that helps.


Meh, read the question backwards.  I'm tired.
 
2014-06-20 06:49:47 AM
It's not news it's  Pravda.ru the Daily Mail!

The guy who shot his wife was also drinking, Dowd lied about no label on the chocolate... That's some ace fact checking, Lou.
 
2014-06-20 06:51:07 AM
That's some bad granola you've been smoking Mr limey reporter.
 
2014-06-20 06:53:48 AM
Okay.. so now can we have an article in the Daily Fail listing all the alcohol-related crimes/accidents/hospitalizations that occurred in the same area in the same time period?

It would be a much longer list, methinks
 
2014-06-20 06:53:57 AM
I challenge the reports of death from marijuana. Even the bits where they talk about extreme hallucinations from an overdose sound fishy. Back in the day, I'd get absolutely baked, and all I ever got was very, very disconnected, a feeling of falling inside yourself while everything around you is a hundred miles away. Also, did any of those children die or end up with permanent damage? The dispensor is right, it really does come down to personal responsibility. If you're leaving your pot cookies around children, you're just as big an idiot as the guy who leaves his loaded gun on the table.
 
2014-06-20 06:54:32 AM
Ctrl+F Dowd

Annnnd I stopped reading there.
 
2014-06-20 06:57:00 AM
'reporter'
 
2014-06-20 06:57:28 AM
To be fair, regarding the murder case, while it's true that THC is a mild psychotic and you shouldn't take it if you already have a medical-scale psychosis... there are a  lot of drugs you probably shouldn't take if you've got psychotic tendencies of a significance where cannabis would have that kind of effect at brownie dosages.

Certainly it's  possible for that kind of issue to go undiagnosed, but it stretches credulity a bit since having a relevant disorder even to a small degree means you'll occasionally hallucinate just from, say, drinking.  Which one would assume you'd probably have done at some point before moving up to marijuana.

// Entertainingly, marijuana also contains cannabidiol, which is being investigated as a potential  antipsychotic.  So... y'know, if you've already got the tendencies you're  really playing roulette with potential outcomes, since one dose may actually leave you a bit  more lucid than usual and the next might chuck you off the deep end.
 
2014-06-20 06:58:53 AM

Herr Morgenstern: I challenge the reports of death from marijuana. Even the bits where they talk about extreme hallucinations from an overdose sound fishy. Back in the day, I'd get absolutely baked, and all I ever got was very, very disconnected, a feeling of falling inside yourself while everything around you is a hundred miles away. Also, did any of those children die or end up with permanent damage? The dispensor is right, it really does come down to personal responsibility. If you're leaving your pot cookies around children, you're just as big an idiot as the guy who leaves his loaded gun on the table.


I know a guy who runs a legal dispensary in CO - iow: he knows what he's talking about. I had hallucinations once on it, and he told me that for some people it can happen. Depends on if its indica or sativa, and..whether the person has a possible allergy.
 
2014-06-20 07:01:58 AM

violentsalvation: As Lieutenant Mark Comte of the narcotics enforcement unit in the city of Colorado Springs explains, legalisation has boosted illegal drug dealing: 'If you can get it tax-free on the corner, you're going to get it on the corner.'


Of course they get an opinion from the most conservative area in Colorado.  Ask a cop in Boulder what they think about it.
 
2014-06-20 07:03:11 AM
Dowd revealed how she had tried a marijuana chocolate bar in her Denver hotel room. After taking just two nibbles, 'I felt a scary shudder go through my body and brain,' she wrote.

The following morning, a marijuana expert told her she had eaten far too much. Such chocolate bars are supposed to be divided into 16 tiny pieces for novice users - advice which hadn't been on the label. It is these so-called 'edibles' that are causing the most serious problems in Colorado. One reason, say doctors, is that users fail to understand the drug takes several hours to take effect when eaten.


Way to condradict the statement in the very next paragraph


'I barely made it from the desk to the bed, where I lay curled up in a hallucinatory state for the next eight hours.' She added: 'As my paranoia deepened, I had become convinced that I had died and no one was telling me.'

What. The. Fark.
 
2014-06-20 07:11:05 AM
i.telegraph.co.uk

Article is completely useless without a quote from Prince Philip.
 
2014-06-20 07:12:04 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Wow, the Daily Mail is trying their darndest to outdo the sensationalist hype of Reefer Madness.


Reading the headline, it looks like "situation normal".

Suicides?  They already have that.
Killings?  They already have that.
Toddlers visiting people in hospitals?  They already have that.

/Subby meant "toddlers in hospital"
 
2014-06-20 07:15:15 AM

Herr Morgenstern: Even the bits where they talk about extreme hallucinations from an overdose sound fishy.


There's no such thing as a marijuana overdose, it doesn't really have directly metabolic symptoms so even withdrawal isn't really a thing.

Hallucinations are because THC is a mild psychotic (part of the reason that one of the effects is "increased significance" meaning you think things you see are more important, and paranoia) and it's really,  really bad to take any substance with psychotic properties if you have existing psychotic tendencies.

It's not a  common issue, obviously, the most common source of psychosis is a complication of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder and those are both low-frequency diseases (and your doctor will generally explicitly warn you off drugs entirely if it's strong enough to be diagnosable).  But if you're dumb enough to ignore your doctor or your issue's undiagnosed (i.e. you were too dumb to notice you occasionally  hallucinate) then it can go south pretty fast.  This isn't an issue that's unique to Pot, LSD can cause similar complications as can a number of prescription drugs.

It's sort of... sneakier with marijuana, though, because most people don't think of significance as a hallucination, and because the effect is minor and irregular (there's pretty much zero chance of it farking you up if you don't have an existing medical issue).

// This is actually one of the major reasons to legalize the stuff, so that you can make everybody stick a label on the side of the pack, like how alcohol has 'don't drink while pregnant, dumbass' stickers and so on.  There's pretty much no drug that doesn't have  some terrifying interaction with  some condition or other drug, better to just inform people and let them move on with their lives.
 
2014-06-20 07:18:22 AM
Shouldn't be there Daily Fail tag here ? Daily Mail sucks
 
2014-06-20 07:19:22 AM
Dear governments, fix the farking roads and STFU.  Thank you for your cooperation.
 
2014-06-20 07:23:10 AM

namatad: violentsalvation: Good lord the Daily Mail is retarded.

But, because of the 36.2 per cent tax levied by the state on cannabis sold through these dispensaries, it can be obtained cheaper on the black market, which some licensed producers are secretly supplying.
As Lieutenant Mark Comte of the narcotics enforcement unit in the city of Colorado Springs explains, legalisation has boosted illegal drug dealing: 'If you can get it tax-free on the corner, you're going to get it on the corner.'


My ass legalization has BOOSTED illegal drug dealing. Some are still getting it duty-free, same as before, big deal. Take your tax money and deal with it, narco cop, before your position is shelved.

WHY the fark would ANYONE buy it on the corner when you cant buy it legally 30ft away?? LOL
Seriously, the WHOLE reason for buying it legally is to get KNOWN quality from a KNOWN source.

Or you can buy cheap skunk weed?? LOL
fark that


Yeah seriously.  I don't buy moonshine from the redneck who lives out in the woods to save a few bucks on taxes on my whiskey.  So why would people in Colorado buy questionable, illegal  weed just to save a few tax dollars?  The risk of getting a bad product coupled with the risk of getting in legal trouble FAR outweigh the very small benefit of dodging a modest tax.
 
2014-06-20 07:24:18 AM
The daily mail, news written by trolls for idiots.

That's all you need to know.
 
2014-06-20 07:28:41 AM

Jim_Callahan: "increased significance"


ahhh, that's a nice turn of phrase to describe the original definition of apophenia!
 
2014-06-20 07:29:38 AM
But what do boffins say regarding whether cats and dogs would share a flat?
 
2014-06-20 07:29:44 AM

strangeluck: Deacon Blue: abhorrent1: And don't forget it also turns everyone gay.

But all the men grow boobs, so it's not really gay

Men with boobs, women with penises, cats and dogs living together, Mass hysteria!


Thailand?
 
2014-06-20 07:31:46 AM
Of course there would. Legalizing marijuana wouldn't be that effective at curing societal ills. That's just unrealistic expectations right there.
 
2014-06-20 07:33:05 AM
Well I guess that's right. I mean there would be less killings and possibly less suicides, but legalization won't completely eliminate all three.
 
2014-06-20 07:34:23 AM
So...that means we would have a single-payer health care system if it was illegal?

Not following his logic.

/because there isn't any
 
2014-06-20 07:35:59 AM

Gothnet: The daily mail, news written by trolls for idiots.

That's all you need to know.


And pics of scantily clad celebrities and pseudo-celebs.

/following a link the daily fail is usually good for 15 minutes of booby browsing.
 
2014-06-20 07:37:38 AM
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2014-06-20 07:38:50 AM

gulogulo: whether the person has a possible allergy.


Man, I have the *worst* pot allergy. Whenever I smoke it, my eyes get all red and watery, my mouth gets dry, and I cough a lot. It's so bad I only do it 3 or 4 times a day.
 
2014-06-20 07:38:59 AM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Subby, as the author of that "article" writes for the Daily Heil, it's factually incorrect to refer to him as a reporter. The term you're looking for is "obnoxious shiatweasel"


The Daily Mail Online has just hired the former CEO of Buzzfeed to run their US operation. I think that tells you everything you need to know about the Daily Mail.
 
2014-06-20 07:39:03 AM
...the terrible repercussions of legalising the drug.

Oh, lol. This is totally legit, guys. Like seriously. It's just all going to hell in Colorado.
 
2014-06-20 07:40:09 AM

mekkab: Jim_Callahan: "increased significance"

ahhh, that's a nice turn of phrase to describe the original definition of apophenia!


I wasn't trying to be poetical, it's how the phenomenon of thinking arbitrarily selected things are important is phrased in most of the diagnostic literature I've read, I think it's a significantly more specific effect being described and isn't necessarily connected to the pattern-recognition itself.

Then, pharmacology and psychology are things I'm more layman-familiar with, my actual professional specialty's more along the line of synthetic and industrial chemistry.  So it wouldn't be the first time I used a phrase wrong, or substituted an archaic terminology for something with a more concise term currently in use.
 
2014-06-20 07:45:40 AM
G.B. doesn't want pot to interfere with their opium trade.
 
2014-06-20 07:51:43 AM
This says it all right here

The liberal establishment that rushes to believe scientists on climate change are happy to ignore the scientific experts when it comes to marijuana.
 
2014-06-20 07:54:33 AM

walkerhound: violentsalvation: As Lieutenant Mark Comte of the narcotics enforcement unit in the city of Colorado Springs explains, legalisation has boosted illegal drug dealing: 'If you can get it tax-free on the corner, you're going to get it on the corner.'

Of course they get an opinion from the most conservative area in Colorado.  Ask a cop in Boulder what they think about it.


0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com
...Duuude.... uh what?
 
2014-06-20 07:56:45 AM
can someone link me to some of the studies that show pot has no addiction vector (for a nurse I know) - preferably in PDF format please?
 
2014-06-20 07:58:32 AM

baka-san: This says it all right here

The liberal establishment that rushes to believe scientists on climate change are happy to ignore the scientific experts when it comes to marijuana.


This is true. They are ignoring the majority of the scientific experts who have been decrying the draconian pot laws for decades. There's no way marijuana should be classed as a Schedule One narcotic.
 
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