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(Think Progress)   GOP plan to help working families: Put a crib in your home office. Subby really wishes he was making this up   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 163
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2014-06-19 02:03:13 PM  
Called "A Fair Shot for Everyone," one key piece of the Republicans' package, introduced by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), is the Working Parents Home Office Act, which allows parents to deduct home office costs from their taxes if they have a baby crib in the office.

The conservative conception of the average working person's life is really weird.
 
2014-06-19 02:05:24 PM  
Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?
 
2014-06-19 02:05:53 PM  
The GOP is so cute when they try to be relevant.
 
2014-06-19 02:07:07 PM  

James!: Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?


I think the rules for home offices are pretty strict; they can't really be mixed-use in any way. If they are mixed use between business and personal, you can't deduct. So maybe what this is is saying that having a crib in the office wouldn't be considered "mixed use"?

Either way, it's an incredibly minor gesture. How many people would this effect? 18?
 
2014-06-19 02:10:00 PM  
Thanks GOP, these crumbs are delicious.
 
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2014-06-19 02:11:30 PM  
It's kind of nice that they aren't actually trying to do harm to people who work at home.

They have been that bad lately.
 
2014-06-19 02:15:32 PM  
How is Babby form1040'ed
 
2014-06-19 02:16:59 PM  
How much for the mute button for the baby?
 
2014-06-19 02:17:30 PM  
They've also reintroduced the Forty Hours is Full Time Act which helps families by making fewer of them eligible for healthcare.
 
2014-06-19 02:19:17 PM  

DamnYankees: James!: Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?

I think the rules for home offices are pretty strict; they can't really be mixed-use in any way. If they are mixed use between business and personal, you can't deduct. So maybe what this is is saying that having a crib in the office wouldn't be considered "mixed use"?


Presuming that it works roughly the same way in the US that it does in Canada, that's not a thing that's really policeable.
 
2014-06-19 02:19:46 PM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

Licia Ronzulli would like a word.
 
2014-06-19 02:21:02 PM  
I'm pretty sure that having a crib in a home office would go against my company's work from home policy.  A babby would be a distraction, distractions are big no-nos.
 
2014-06-19 02:21:08 PM  

James!: Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?


in theory, you can only deduct the part of the house that is used EXCLUSIVELY for a home office.
crib would reduce the amount of the deduction. At least that is what it was back in the day.
 
2014-06-19 02:21:20 PM  
This must be that "trickle down" i keep hearing about.
 
2014-06-19 02:27:59 PM  

BunkoSquad: How is Babby form1040'ed


In triplicate?
 
2014-06-19 02:42:38 PM  
Typical lib moochers. Why not get that baby a job? Those small hands would be very useful in various mine and quarry-related professions, and think how much better formula tastes when it's EARNED.
 
2014-06-19 02:45:47 PM  

unyon: DamnYankees: James!: Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?

I think the rules for home offices are pretty strict; they can't really be mixed-use in any way. If they are mixed use between business and personal, you can't deduct. So maybe what this is is saying that having a crib in the office wouldn't be considered "mixed use"?

Presuming that it works roughly the same way in the US that it does in Canada, that's not a thing that's really policeable.


If you get audited, they can, but holy hell, how dumb are you if you don't move the non-work stuff out of there before the auditors show up?
 
2014-06-19 02:48:51 PM  
Okay, it looks like rather than suggesting that people put cribs in their offices they are loosening the current rule about deducting home office spaces so that if there is some child care also going on in that space it's still deductible? Those bastards.
 
2014-06-19 02:49:30 PM  

DamnYankees: James!: Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?

I think the rules for home offices are pretty strict; they can't really be mixed-use in any way. If they are mixed use between business and personal, you can't deduct. So maybe what this is is saying that having a crib in the office wouldn't be considered "mixed use"?

Either way, it's an incredibly minor gesture. How many people would this effect? 18?


A better gesture would be to allow home office deductions for any purchases used for work while at home, regardless of mixed use or the presence of a dedicated home office.

You answer work e-mails from home?  You can deduct the cost of your computer and internet service.  You take work calls on your personal cell?  You can deduct the cost of the device and the plan.

There would have to be some limits so that someone wouldn't try to deduct the cost of an in-ground pool because they entertained a client in their lanai one day, but overall that would be something that could help a lot of actual middle class families.
 
2014-06-19 02:49:33 PM  

Nabb1: unyon: DamnYankees: James!: Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?

I think the rules for home offices are pretty strict; they can't really be mixed-use in any way. If they are mixed use between business and personal, you can't deduct. So maybe what this is is saying that having a crib in the office wouldn't be considered "mixed use"?

Presuming that it works roughly the same way in the US that it does in Canada, that's not a thing that's really policeable.

If you get audited, they can, but holy hell, how dumb are you if you don't move the non-work stuff out of there before the auditors show up?


Dumb enough to vote GOP.
 
2014-06-19 03:02:37 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: DamnYankees: James!: Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?

I think the rules for home offices are pretty strict; they can't really be mixed-use in any way. If they are mixed use between business and personal, you can't deduct. So maybe what this is is saying that having a crib in the office wouldn't be considered "mixed use"?

Either way, it's an incredibly minor gesture. How many people would this effect? 18?

A better gesture would be to allow home office deductions for any purchases used for work while at home, regardless of mixed use or the presence of a dedicated home office.

You answer work e-mails from home?  You can deduct the cost of your computer and internet service.  You take work calls on your personal cell?  You can deduct the cost of the device and the plan.

There would have to be some limits so that someone wouldn't try to deduct the cost of an in-ground pool because they entertained a client in their lanai one day, but overall that would be something that could help a lot of actual middle class families.


That would be so open to abuse I don't even know how to address it. It also seems pretty regressive, since the people who would benefit the most from this are richer people.
 
2014-06-19 03:17:22 PM  

Nabb1: Okay, it looks like rather than suggesting that people put cribs in their offices they are loosening the current rule about deducting home office spaces so that if there is some child care also going on in that space it's still deductible? Those bastards.


It's not that it isn't helpful.  It's like trying to bail out a boat with a spoon.  You're helping, but you could be doing a shiatload more.
 
2014-06-19 03:21:33 PM  

James!: Nabb1: Okay, it looks like rather than suggesting that people put cribs in their offices they are loosening the current rule about deducting home office spaces so that if there is some child care also going on in that space it's still deductible? Those bastards.

It's not that it isn't helpful.  It's like trying to bail out a boat with a spoon.  You're helping, but you could be doing a shiatload more.


It also only helps people who work from home and have a home office - i.e. its a pretty regressive way to do things.
 
2014-06-19 03:25:37 PM  

DamnYankees: James!: Nabb1: Okay, it looks like rather than suggesting that people put cribs in their offices they are loosening the current rule about deducting home office spaces so that if there is some child care also going on in that space it's still deductible? Those bastards.

It's not that it isn't helpful.  It's like trying to bail out a boat with a spoon.  You're helping, but you could be doing a shiatload more.

It also only helps people who work from home and have a home office - i.e. its a pretty regressive way to do things.


Parents who work at home, have a home office, and want to put a crib in the office but for some reason knew it would mess with their deductions and so they didn't have one.

I think republican lawmakers think their constituents are way more aware of tax law than they actually are.
 
2014-06-19 03:27:27 PM  
Also, exhibit #175,094 that nobody actually cares about the deficit.
 
2014-06-19 03:28:34 PM  

DamnYankees: The conservative conception of the average working person's life is really weird.


Their conception of the average person is a caricature of reality.
 
2014-06-19 03:28:46 PM  

DamnYankees: Called "A Fair Shot for Everyone," one key piece of the Republicans' package, introduced by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), is the Working Parents Home Office Act, which allows parents to deduct home office costs from their taxes if they have a baby crib in the office.

The conservative conception of the average working person's life is really weird.


yeah, I guess if you are that out of touch I can see why republicans think everything is totally fine and we should stay the course.
 
2014-06-19 03:29:02 PM  
Somebody in the GOP is reading Charles Dickens and not getting the social commentary, again.

/too bad we can't just transport the poor to Australia like the good olde days
 
2014-06-19 03:30:40 PM  
Don't have kids.  problem solved.

but then the repugs will be scrambling for employees to work in their money maker companies.  well, they can always step up the imports.

ain't Freedom great!
 
2014-06-19 03:31:36 PM  
Better idea than the original Leave a Baby, Take a Baby bin at the steel mill.
 
2014-06-19 03:32:32 PM  

DamnYankees: Called "A Fair Shot for Everyone," one key piece of the Republicans' package, introduced by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), is the Working Parents Home Office Act, which allows parents to deduct home office costs from their taxes if they have a baby crib in the office.

The conservative conception of the average working person's life is really weird.


These are people that think a 250k income is ' Middle Class'.
 
2014-06-19 03:32:43 PM  
Republicans and their crony capitalist owners need to find a way to engineer the Family to be more efficient so they can extract even more wealth from the bottom 98%.

ain't Freedom great!
 
2014-06-19 03:33:28 PM  

MFAWG: DamnYankees: Called "A Fair Shot for Everyone," one key piece of the Republicans' package, introduced by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), is the Working Parents Home Office Act, which allows parents to deduct home office costs from their taxes if they have a baby crib in the office.

The conservative conception of the average working person's life is really weird.

These are people that think a 250k income is ' Middle Class'.



compared to their incomes it is.
 
2014-06-19 03:33:53 PM  
Like most "gestures" the bastards in the GOP makes to working folks, this is essentially a pebble thrown into the Grand Canyon.

It's pathetic, and if it weren't a mid-term election year, this wouldn't even have been proposed.
 
2014-06-19 03:33:59 PM  

Nabb1: Okay, it looks like rather than suggesting that people put cribs in their offices they are loosening the current rule about deducting home office spaces so that if there is some child care also going on in that space it's still deductible? Those bastards.


It's not necessarily a horrible idea on its own. But consider who actually has a job that would allow them to work from home. Those people likely have more white-collar jobs that can use telework, and they likely have higher salaries. While they may be struggling with taking care of their kids and working at the same time, it's a drop in the bucket at best for other people who have jobs with no telework options and/or lower salaries.
 
2014-06-19 03:34:27 PM  
Sounds like Marissa Mayer message to Yahoo employees: "No more working from home but it's not a problem for me because I 'm going to build a nursery in my office."
 
2014-06-19 03:35:57 PM  
I own a business.  And I have a baby.  If I had to watch the kid for a day and had to get some work done, I could probably do it with a crib in an at home office.  I'd surely let one of my employees do it if the got stuck in that situation.  But if I had to do it everyday, I really wouldn't be getting very much done.  And if my employee was in that situation everyday, they wouldn't be my employee for long.  Who the fark is this supposed to help?  People selling shiat on e-bay in their spare time?  They most likely don't declare their business on their taxes anyway.
 
2014-06-19 03:37:07 PM  

DamnYankees: TuteTibiImperes: DamnYankees: James!: Can't you already deduct for a home office regardless of the presence of a baby?

I think the rules for home offices are pretty strict; they can't really be mixed-use in any way. If they are mixed use between business and personal, you can't deduct. So maybe what this is is saying that having a crib in the office wouldn't be considered "mixed use"?

Either way, it's an incredibly minor gesture. How many people would this effect? 18?

A better gesture would be to allow home office deductions for any purchases used for work while at home, regardless of mixed use or the presence of a dedicated home office.

You answer work e-mails from home?  You can deduct the cost of your computer and internet service.  You take work calls on your personal cell?  You can deduct the cost of the device and the plan.

There would have to be some limits so that someone wouldn't try to deduct the cost of an in-ground pool because they entertained a client in their lanai one day, but overall that would be something that could help a lot of actual middle class families.

That would be so open to abuse I don't even know how to address it. It also seems pretty regressive, since the people who would benefit the most from this are richer people.


True, there would be potential for abuse, but I think the primary beneficiaries would be the middle class.

Things like computers, cell phone service, and internet service cost the same whether your household makes $85,000 or $500,000.  They're a larger portion of the budget for middle class households though.

Pushing for universal full day pre-k and kindergarten at no charge for parents would also help working families, especially with fully funded after-school programs.
 
2014-06-19 03:37:42 PM  
You can also use the budget calculator put out by McDonald's corporate so their minimum wage employees know how much to pay the nanny and the maid.
 
2014-06-19 03:37:57 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Better idea than the original Leave a Baby, Take a Baby bin at the steel mill.


Ah, the ol' mill, how I miss it. I feel a bit bad that I kept taking babies and not leaving any, but in my defense they were delicious and quite filling.
 
2014-06-19 03:38:01 PM  

Muta: Their conception of the average person is a caricature of reality.


Heh, yeah.  Was thinking the same thing.  It's like Romney's "If you're having trouble paying for school, just sell some of your parent's stocks or bonds."
 
2014-06-19 03:38:11 PM  
You cannot work while caring for an infant, and do both jobs well.

/Ask me how I know this...
 
2014-06-19 03:38:46 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: True, there would be potential for abuse, but I think the primary beneficiaries would be the middle class.


Middle class people can't work from home that much, and working class people can work from home even less. You know who can work from home really easily? Lawyers, bankers and white collar management.
 
2014-06-19 03:39:52 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: You cannot work while caring for an infant, and do both jobs well.

/Ask me how I know this...



You accidentally delivered an infant with peperoni and extra cheese to house full of stoners?
 
2014-06-19 03:40:01 PM  
You have to know that the existence of one small portable crib in your home office would be enough to disqualify you from taking the exemption.  It's true.

So, for the 5 taxpayers who will be helped by this bill, congratulations! and remember to vote -R


/all other home office rules apply.
//what if there's a baby in the crib?
 
2014-06-19 03:40:04 PM  
Look at the advantages of their plan.  get Jr used to seeing the office so that, in the future, when the Owners of 'murica get rid of the 40 hour work week to milk even more from their 'volunteer' slaves, then Jr will be accustomed to living in the Office/factory, etc.


Arbeit Macht Frei!!
 
2014-06-19 03:41:16 PM  

MFAWG: DamnYankees: Called "A Fair Shot for Everyone," one key piece of the Republicans' package, introduced by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), is the Working Parents Home Office Act, which allows parents to deduct home office costs from their taxes if they have a baby crib in the office.

The conservative conception of the average working person's life is really weird.

These are people that think a 250k income is ' Middle Class'.


i47.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-19 03:42:27 PM  

fenianfark: MFAWG: DamnYankees: Called "A Fair Shot for Everyone," one key piece of the Republicans' package, introduced by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), is the Working Parents Home Office Act, which allows parents to deduct home office costs from their taxes if they have a baby crib in the office.

The conservative conception of the average working person's life is really weird.

These are people that think a 250k income is ' Middle Class'.

[i47.photobucket.com image 800x527]


The cartoon still blows my mind.
 
2014-06-19 03:42:32 PM  
What I'd I get a crib and keep beer in it? Can I deduct that?
 
2014-06-19 03:42:42 PM  

Nabb1: Okay, it looks like rather than suggesting that people put cribs in their offices they are loosening the current rule about deducting home office spaces so that if there is some child care also going on in that space it's still deductible? Those bastards.


Just simplifying the tax code...
 
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