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(ABC 27)   Since it looks like nobody wants to live in New Jersey anymore, the state is considering waiving the requirement that you have to live in the state to work in a school district there   (abc27.com ) divider line
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2014-06-19 11:46:47 AM  
Many school systems have been forced to change these sorts of rules, and it's usually because the teachers who would be willing to work there can't actually afford to live there.
 
2014-06-19 11:53:13 AM  
It's not that nobody wants to live in New Jersey anymore....it's just that it is very expensive to live here. You can get a lot more for your money by moving to Pennsylvania.
 
2014-06-19 12:41:43 PM  
I'm trying to understand the value of the old requirement.  I haven't thought of anything yet.
 
2014-06-19 01:16:50 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I'm trying to understand the value of the old requirement. I haven't thought of anything yet.


Might be intended as a variant on eating your own dog food.
 
2014-06-19 02:19:14 PM  
You'll still need a New Jersey educator's license but their reciprocity isn't too much trouble, even if you don't have a national board license.
 
2014-06-19 02:35:50 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I'm trying to understand the value of the old requirement.  I haven't thought of anything yet.


The theory is that teachers should be familiar with the communities that their students live in, and that the teachers have some kind of investment in that community.
 
2014-06-19 02:52:08 PM  
I went to the Music Educators' National Conference in Salt Lake City in 2006. Baltimore schools were so desperate for teachers that they actually rented exhibit space to try to recruit music teachers to teach everything from kindergarten to math. If I remember correctly, starting pay was somewhere near $50,000 with bonuses. So I start talking to one of the HR reps there about what it's like, and asked about commute, lifestyle, etc. She confided to me that a lot of their teachers have to commute in from Pennsylvania and other states to work every day.

Good luck with that.
 
2014-06-19 03:06:28 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I'm trying to understand the value of the old requirement.  I haven't thought of anything yet.


Makes sense for cops, not so much for teachers.
 
2014-06-19 03:07:50 PM  
It would be a major revision to a 2011 state law that required public workers at all levels of government in New Jersey to live in the state

I knew this had to be a fairly recent law. I had a few teachers back in the 90s who lived in PA.

ferretman: It's not that nobody wants to live in New Jersey anymore[...]


I fail to see the draw. NJ used to be the land of high-paying jobs and top-notch education, but Governor Fat Bastard has done his best to change that. Unemployment is higher than the national average and every other state in the region, and that's due in large part to Christie the Hutt laying off thousands of teachers.
 
2014-06-19 03:32:21 PM  
Legalize weed everywhere but NJ.  Then all those who hate the devil's smoke can move there and kiss Christie's fat ass.  Problem solved...!
 
2014-06-19 03:56:20 PM  
I spent some time in the Cooper health system when I was going to medical school in Philly...I'm pretty sure 75% of the people that worked there commuted from PA.  I can't imagine it's any different with other professions.  Of course, that assuredly had more to do with the fact that it was in Camden and not that the taxes were ridiculous.
 
2014-06-19 03:56:43 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I'm trying to understand the value of the old requirement.  I haven't thought of anything yet.


You never know when someone might need to be able to respond to an emergency call to teach math at 2 AM.
 
2014-06-19 05:48:23 PM  

Wendy's Chili: It would be a major revision to a 2011 state law that required public workers at all levels of government in New Jersey to live in the state

I knew this had to be a fairly recent law. I had a few teachers back in the 90s who lived in PA.

ferretman: It's not that nobody wants to live in New Jersey anymore[...]

I fail to see the draw. NJ used to be the land of high-paying jobs and top-notch education, but Governor Fat Bastard has done his best to change that. Unemployment is higher than the national average and every other state in the region, and that's due in large part to Christie the Hutt laying off thousands of teachers.


Oh New Jersey was a perfectly run and managed state, with no unemployment, zero corruption, low taxes and corporations lined up waiting to settle into any available building or lot. Until Governor Fat Bastard showed up......


Oh wait, it wasn't, the state has been shedding jobs for the past three decades, taxes are high and the only solution the retarded liberals can come up with is to raise taxes. Somehow raising taxes will cause businesses to want to relocated into NJ.......
 
2014-06-19 05:54:14 PM  
Requiring people to live in the same state as their jobs create less air pollution and traffic?

Jeez liberals, I thought you were all FOR these "green laws", oh wait, they are being applied to you, so they are bad....
 
2014-06-19 06:20:14 PM  
This doesn't violate the privileges and immunities clause or anything like that.  No siree.
 
2014-06-19 06:30:28 PM  
Since it looks like nobody wants to live in New Jersey anymore

11th most populous state 47th in total land area.

/doesn't live in NJ
 
2014-06-19 06:36:00 PM  

theknuckler_33: Since it looks like nobody wants to live in New Jersey anymore

11th most populous state 47th in total land area.

/doesn't live in NJ


nobody lives there, it's too crowded
 
2014-06-19 06:55:04 PM  

ferretman: It's not that nobody wants to live in New Jersey anymore....it's just that it is very expensive to live here.


Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
 
2014-06-19 09:02:40 PM  
New Jersey is becoming one big bedroom community as the taxes and cost of living drive businesses elsewhere.  The property taxes alone are a good reason to pull up stakes.

My engineer brother and his speech pathologist wife had to deal with this problem when he was looking for a new job, and couldn't find anything in New Jersey.  He worked close enough to the border in Pennsylvania for her to commute to her job in New Jersey, but the rules changed and they simply couldn't afford to buy a house in Jersey.  So, now they both work in Pennsylvania.
 
2014-06-20 07:46:32 AM  

dantheman195: Oh wait, it wasn't, the state has been shedding jobs for the past three decades


Liar.

NJ unemployment rate, 1984: 5.8%
NJ unemployment rate, 1994: 6.3%
NJ unemployment rate, 2004: 4.4%
 
2014-06-20 09:43:28 AM  

Wendy's Chili: dantheman195: Oh wait, it wasn't, the state has been shedding jobs for the past three decades

Liar.

NJ unemployment rate, 1984: 5.8%
NJ unemployment rate, 1994: 6.3%
NJ unemployment rate, 2004: 4.4%


What is the old saying, figures don't lie but liars can figure?

You included the construction boom jobs in 2004, those are not permanent long term jobs. I guess you forgot about the Real Estate bubble in the 2000's that ended sometime in 2008 where the rate jumped up to almost 9 percent.

Who was governor in 2008? Oh that guy, Jon Corzine, the wizard of WallStreet, the Liberal savior, the magic money man who was going to save the state. But somehow made things so bad that Governor Fat Bastard beat his butt to a pulp in the 2009 gubernatorial election.

Governor Fat Bastard wants to lower taxes so business would relocated back into New Jersey, which in the long run would create more tax revenue. But the opposition party does not like the idea of the people getting to keep a little bit more of their own money. Seems to be a problem with Democrats in general. They believe that they are better at spending your money then you are.....

But lets pretend that shedding all the factory/manufacturing jobs over the last three decades and replacing them with temporary constructions and retail jobs was a viable solution. We were going to be building 800K McMansions, big box super centers,  and Strip Malls forever and ever and ever.........
 
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