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2014-06-19 02:08:59 PM  
4 votes:
"But instead of resisting, leading companies quickly collaborated on a ban that was enacted by the state legislature this spring. "

My 2c: I reckon folks in the relevant industries did a little research and the results came up with a lot of very negative potential effects and aren't particularly keen on the EPA telling them that every waterway in the US is now a Superfund site they are responsible for.
2014-06-19 02:39:39 PM  
3 votes:
Microbeads from toothpaste embedded in gumline, as found by a dental hygienist:
www.dentalbuzz.com

http://www.dentalbuzz.com/2014/03/04/crest-imbeds-plastic-in-our-gum s/
2014-06-19 05:06:42 PM  
2 votes:

Dimensio: algrant33: ArcadianRefugee: algrant33: miss diminutive: "microbeads" -- tiny bits of plastic used in personal care products such as facial scrubs and toothpaste


Why the hell were these things in there in the first place?


They rub dead skin off of your body.


Pretty sure toothpaste has some abrasives in it and none made from plastic.


Aaaand you'd be wrong.
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I can assure you that plastic beads were not part of the original formula.



That toothpaste was perfect for getting rid of those pesky tobacco stains.
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2014-06-19 03:11:17 PM  
2 votes:

CheekyMonkey: Dinjiin: algrant33: They rub dead skin off of your body.

So do scrubs with natural pumice materials, like ground apricot pits.  I assume the plastic beads were cheaper, which is why they used them.

"Natural pumice materials"?!?

Pumice is a volcanic rock, not a type of material.


The fark are you talking about?  Rock is a type of material.  What the hell do you think material is?
2014-06-19 02:24:12 PM  
2 votes:
Actually, with the way Big Soap is saying, "Sure, not a problem," it sounds like microbeads were a stupid expensive fad that ate profits.  Pumice is probably cheaper.
2014-06-19 02:13:17 PM  
2 votes:
If the companies are playing along it means that the microbeads weren't doing much to sell the product.
2014-06-19 02:00:32 PM  
2 votes:

algrant33: They rub dead skin off of your body.


So do scrubs with natural pumice materials, like ground apricot pits.  I assume the plastic beads were cheaper, which is why they used them.
2014-06-19 05:40:07 PM  
1 vote:

Choc-Ful-A: Well I think this bit,

"The industry has yet to endorse a California bill that wouldn't make an exception for biodegradable microbeads, which the industry says are on the drawing board."

is the real clue.  Sounds like current micro-beads are already on the way out with new and improved, self-rotting microbeads in the works.  And the companies making this crap want to lock in an exception to the restriction for the replacement before anyone has a chance to find out what problems they might cause.

It's like fracking companies agreeing to stop using the current mix of poison as long as the "better version" is explicitly allowed in the bill banning the current stuff.


"Biodegradeable" plastic is a crock. There's no such thing. What they do is splice the hydrocarbons with starch, which allows them to break down into smaller pieces. But they're still the same, indigestible, potentially toxic long-chain hydrocarbons after they "biodegrade."
2014-06-19 03:49:54 PM  
1 vote:

Dinjiin: So do scrubs with natural pumice materials, like ground apricot pits.


So does sand. Which is almost certainly cheaper than apricot pits or plastic beads, native to most environments, and super-inert -- that's why we use sand as an abrasive in most industries. But clearly they wanted to market something else.

/ So does moderate pressure on a cloth
2014-06-19 03:27:16 PM  
1 vote:

Ex-Texan: Ah, I remember in the "Old days", we'd use Fullers earth. Fullers earth was made primarily of very small, tiny glass beads. We'd mix them with putty, use them to make fillets for models scale airplanes. Haven't used that in over 20 years. They use that a lot foe special effects in films, say the desert sequences in "Dune". Good stuff. Just don't breathe it.
 I've got a 1/3rd scale P-40 Warhawk in my garage I used it on. Pane is as big as my full sized pickup. Acratch built.


???  I thought Fuller's earth was just finely powdered clay.

From the EB:   fuller's earth,  any fine-grained, naturally occurring earthy substance that has a substantial ability to adsorb impurities or colouring bodies from fats, grease, or oils.


Diatomaceous earth, on the other hand, is basically small glass beads...in the form of a bunch of long-dead diatoms.

With all this fuss about microbeads, what's going to happen when they catch on to nano-particles??
2014-06-19 03:18:43 PM  
1 vote:

algrant33: CheekyMonkey: Dinjiin: algrant33: They rub dead skin off of your body.

So do scrubs with natural pumice materials, like ground apricot pits.  I assume the plastic beads were cheaper, which is why they used them.

"Natural pumice materials"?!?

Pumice is a volcanic rock, not a type of material.

The fark are you talking about?  Rock is a type of material.  What the hell do you think material is?


The stuff Carlos Mencia steals from other comedians?
2014-06-19 03:18:32 PM  
1 vote:

algrant33: CheekyMonkey: Dinjiin: algrant33: They rub dead skin off of your body.

So do scrubs with natural pumice materials, like ground apricot pits.  I assume the plastic beads were cheaper, which is why they used them.

"Natural pumice materials"?!?

Pumice is a volcanic rock, not a type of material.

The fark are you talking about?  Rock is a type of material.  What the hell do you think material is?


Okay, that response nearly ruined my keyboard.
2014-06-19 03:15:44 PM  
1 vote:
Real men exfoliate with guns.
2014-06-19 03:08:13 PM  
1 vote:

Dinjiin: algrant33: They rub dead skin off of your body.

So do scrubs with natural pumice materials, like ground apricot pits.  I assume the plastic beads were cheaper, which is why they used them.


"Natural pumice materials"?!?

Pumice is a volcanic rock, not a type of material.
2014-06-19 03:06:50 PM  
1 vote:
My 2 cents bet:  Microbeads were causing acne problems because they were small enough to lodge in pores, the plastic making them stick, and the body can't break them down and remove them like natural acne causers like dead skin. The manufacturers could have been getting reports of adult acne onset after usage, when the person wasn't prone to adult acne previously, where the acne just wouldn't go away and when dealt with there was a tiny plastic ball at the root.

If the industry agreed this fast, they've probably undertaken some private studies that show some kind of problem they could eventually get sued for directly, like personal injury, and this is a convenient, PR friendly way to take action on the issue. I'm not so certain fear of environmental lawsuits would do it, since I'm not sure they're necessarily a type of polluter subject to the Clean Water Act.  That might be one they'd be willing to fight over in court for a few years.

Care about clean water?  Maybe from a high level, but not if it affects their bottom line when they aren't necessarily legally responsible for the damage.

Have no will to fight state proposed legislative bans?  Hardly, companies do this all the time.

Care about ruining their reputation if sued in a class action for their product doing something completely contrary to its stated goal of cleaning skin, and having their brands made a public laughingstock?  More likely. That kind of thing lasts a long time in the public conscious, unlike companies' pollution stances or lobbying fights.

That, or natural sources are so significantly cheaper than plastic this is a good, PR friendly way to make the switch and not piss off customer bases while enhancing bottom line.  Look customer, we know you liked microbeads, but this is better for the environment, yay!

/No inside information, just me spitballing guesses
//Yes, somewhat based on a CSB, but my dermatologist told me she'd seen a significant increase in adult acne over the last few years she couldn't explain.
2014-06-19 03:04:19 PM  
1 vote:
I'm peeling from a sunburn right now, so this thread is relevant to my interests.
2014-06-19 02:55:02 PM  
1 vote:

Bonobo62: Microbeads? People use those?  When I need to exfoliate, I use one of those green 3M scrub pads, and follow it up with some 220 grit sandpaper.


If you get a random-orbit sander and some 1200 grit after that you can make your skin GLOW! Personally, I start with steel wool; it's probably why I have such thin skin, but it's worth it.
2014-06-19 02:44:12 PM  
1 vote:
2014-06-19 02:42:45 PM  
1 vote:

algrant33: ArcadianRefugee: algrant33: miss diminutive: "microbeads" -- tiny bits of plastic used in personal care products such as facial scrubs and toothpaste

Why the hell were these things in there in the first place?

They rub dead skin off of your body.

Pretty sure toothpaste has some abrasives in it and none made from plastic.

Aaaand you'd be wrong.
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I can assure you that plastic beads were not part of the original formula.
2014-06-19 02:36:50 PM  
1 vote:

ArcadianRefugee: algrant33: miss diminutive: "microbeads" -- tiny bits of plastic used in personal care products such as facial scrubs and toothpaste

Why the hell were these things in there in the first place?

They rub dead skin off of your body.

Pretty sure toothpaste has some abrasives in it and none made from plastic.


Aaaand you'd be wrong.
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2014-06-19 02:33:31 PM  
1 vote:

cgraves67: If the companies are playing along it means that the microbeads weren't doing much to sell the product.


And the speed at which they came to this conclusion makes me believe they had other substitute ingredients already lined up due to previous knowledge of the problem.
2014-06-19 02:14:53 PM  
1 vote:

AeAe: Use something else.  Ground up apricot pits. Sand.


This. Hell they can use farking baking soda or food grade diatomaceous earth
2014-06-19 02:14:23 PM  
1 vote:

BigNumber12: That says a lot about how big of a deal plastic microbeads are. Industry executives can avoid living near fracking sites, for example, but they can't avoid eating every last species that may have ingested spending the money to put microbeads in their product, thus raising their bonuses.


FTFY
2014-06-19 02:11:32 PM  
1 vote:

incendi: Oh god how am I going to properly exfoliate my nutsack now? This is a crisis!


Heeeeere kitty, kitty!

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What?
2014-06-19 02:10:09 PM  
1 vote:
That says a lot about how big of a deal plastic microbeads are. Industry executives can avoid living near fracking sites, for example, but they can't avoid eating every last species that may have ingested microbeads.
2014-06-19 02:03:58 PM  
1 vote:
Why wouldn't I just use a washcloth? Why do I need my soap to provide the abrasion?
2014-06-19 02:03:47 PM  
1 vote:
Anal beads for little people?
2014-06-19 02:01:54 PM  
1 vote:
Use something else.  Ground up apricot pits. Sand.
2014-06-19 02:01:44 PM  
1 vote:
Look, libs, if I want to consume fish filled with microbeads and exfoliate my colon then that's my business.  What about my personal freedom to have a smooth and shiny colon?
2014-06-19 01:59:49 PM  
1 vote:

miss diminutive: "microbeads" -- tiny bits of plastic used in personal care products such as facial scrubs and toothpaste

Why the hell were these things in there in the first place?


Because the earth wants plastic!  Didn't know how to make it, so it made humans.
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