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(Reuters)   T-Mobile suggests you cheat on your mobile carrier for a week, convinced they can woo you by sucking harder than all the others   (uk.reuters.com ) divider line
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2014-06-20 01:26:48 AM  
Suck harder? I love going overseas and not any roaming charges for data or texting.

F*ck AT&T with their $20k per gb bullsh*t.
 
2014-06-20 02:18:18 AM  
I liked them when they were still Voicestream. Now they are too mainstream.
 
2014-06-20 05:10:21 AM  
I switched to TMobile, and the coverage here in Maine is eh, but I do see it improving. Also, they seem to be pushing the industry to be better to customers, so I'm pretty happy with them
 
2014-06-20 05:19:18 AM  
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2014-06-20 05:45:08 AM  
The news that had me really happy was music streaming services not counting towards the data cap any longer. It's nice to be able to use Pandora or iTunes Radio on my daily commute and not worrying about being throttled.
 
2014-06-20 06:22:57 AM  

Publikwerks: I switched to TMobile, and the coverage here in Maine is eh, but I do see it improving. Also, they seem to be pushing the industry to be better to customers, so I'm pretty happy with them


Their coverage in small town Texas is crap. The coverage map shows my work area being smack in the middle of a perfect signal area, which is a total lie. I'm lucky if I can get a phone signal, let alone internet.
 
2014-06-20 06:59:18 AM  

diaphoresis: [www.mrsimcard.com image 305x197]


Yeah, this.  I've been a happy MetroPCS customer now for 13ish years.
 
2014-06-20 07:59:55 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Suck harder? I love going overseas and not any roaming charges for data or texting.

F*ck AT&T with their $20k per gb bullsh*t.


This. My work phone is AT&T, personal is T-Mobile, T-Mobile blows AT&T out of the water any day in terms of, well, everything.
 
2014-06-20 08:35:28 AM  

strangeluck: Publikwerks: I switched to TMobile, and the coverage here in Maine is eh, but I do see it improving. Also, they seem to be pushing the industry to be better to customers, so I'm pretty happy with them

Their coverage in small town Texas is crap. The coverage map shows my work area being smack in the middle of a perfect signal area, which is a total lie. I'm lucky if I can get a phone signal, let alone internet.


Oh, it shows me in coverage, but it's far more susceptible to hills and trees than Verizon, so I've had trouble inside my house. But, with iOS 8, I'll have access to T mobile wifi calling, so I'll be fine.

It's pretty cool to be able to get a loner phone and try it out to see if it's awful or good for you. Plus, I'm paying $120 for 5 lines. Not too shabby
 
2014-06-20 08:59:06 AM  
I've been with T-Mobile for near 13 years in rural Alabama and Virginia and never had serious problems with them. there were spots in the backwoods or where a rural road went through a mountain that i would loose signal but it never dropped calls randomly lost all signal like my work Verizon phone does.
Also: not having to pay "$10/mo Business Surcharges" for my Good Link email client, that's nice.
 
2014-06-20 09:05:27 AM  
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2014-06-20 10:13:30 AM  
I get about 30mbps down, 11mbps up on T-Mo LTE in Tampa Bay.  Unlimited everything and free tethering for ~$81/month.
 
2014-06-20 10:15:25 AM  
I switched the family from Verizon to T-Mobile back in February. For the same money, we went from one smartphone with 2GB of data and four dumbphones, to four smartphones with a total of 8 GB of data and one dumbphone.

IF you have coverage, T-Mobile is the way to go.
 
2014-06-20 10:24:48 AM  

Wellon Dowd: IF you have coverage, T-Mobile is the way to go


The only place I've been where I did not have great coverage from T-Mobile is rural Iowa.
 
2014-06-20 10:47:00 AM  

Wellon Dowd: IF you have coverage, T-Mobile is the way to go.


Also, you might want to figure out whether the coverage you think you need is enough to warrant double the price tag of other carriers. In all honesty, I don't think a lot of people need that coverage.

Having said that, I believe TMO is aggressively building up the coverage, including LTE. So results from even, say a year ago might not apply today.
 
2014-06-20 11:37:45 AM  

finnished: Also, you might want to figure out whether the coverage you think you need is enough to warrant double the price tag of other carriers. In all honesty, I don't think a lot of people need that coverage.


And if you do need the coverage of Verizon or AT&T, you can always go with a MVO.

BYO Wireless and Page Plus Wireless are both Verizon resellers that allow you to bring your own phone.  Ting does the same for Sprint.  Net10 and Straight Talk handle both AT&T and Verizon phones (and they support AT&T's LTE bands).
 
2014-06-20 11:46:42 AM  
I'm not very happy with TMo, but none of the others look any better. Looking for a five person family plan that won't require a second job.
 
2014-06-20 11:48:06 AM  

MightyPez: The news that had me really happy was music streaming services not counting towards the data cap any longer.

T-Mobile now tracking and recording which sites I am connecting to and how much data I transfer from each of them. It's nice to be able to use Pandora or iTunes Radio on my daily commute and not worrying about being throttleduntracked.

FTFY

While I doubt this particular step will be used for excessively nefarious purposes, the direction it takes the market is disturbing.
 
2014-06-20 11:49:54 AM  

Dinjiin: finnished: Also, you might want to figure out whether the coverage you think you need is enough to warrant double the price tag of other carriers. In all honesty, I don't think a lot of people need that coverage.

And if you do need the coverage of Verizon or AT&T, you can always go with a MVO.

BYO Wireless and Page Plus Wireless are both Verizon resellers that allow you to bring your own phone.  Ting does the same for Sprint.  Net10 and Straight Talk handle both AT&T and Verizon phones (and they support AT&T's LTE bands).


One of us has really poor reception on T-Mobile, even though she (my down-and-out sister-in-law) lives just a few miles outside the Beltway. I am planning on switching her to Page Plus using one of our old Verizon phones.

Does anyone here have any direct experience with Page Plus or BYO Wireless?
 
2014-06-20 11:54:42 AM  

Epicanis: MightyPez: The news that had me really happy was music streaming services not counting towards the data cap any longer. T-Mobile now tracking and recording which sites I am connecting to and how much data I transfer from each of them. It's nice to be able to use Pandora or iTunes Radio on my daily commute and not worrying about being throttleduntracked.

FTFY

While I doubt this particular step will be used for excessively nefarious purposes, the direction it takes the market is disturbing.


Do you honestly believe this hasn't been done by every carrier/ISP since now? Your traffic is passing through their network and through their DNS servers. This can be as simple as adding certain subnets and domains to a white list that is omitted from the data cap pool.
 
2014-06-20 12:13:25 PM  
I just downloaded Rhapsody:

1.  It doesn't recognize that I have an unlimited plan.
2.  It crashes 10 seconds into a song.

I'll stick with Spotify for now.
 
2014-06-20 12:37:39 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Does anyone here have any direct experience with Page Plus


I have Page Plus with a Samsung GS1.  No problems with service or billing.

One thing I don't like about either Page Plus is how they handle overages.  When you're out of minutes, texts or data, you have to purchase a "refill".  My previous MVO would just charge me a few cents for any overage units and would just add it to my next bill.  So the refill thing is a bit of a hassle.  Second, any unused refill credits expire after 4 months, save their $80 refill that lasts a year.  Third, the amount of data you get with refills is rather low.  I've purchased one $10 refill in the past year, so luckily it hasn't been much of a bother.

Oh, and many MVOs are 3G-only.  PP is a "bring a 4G device at your own risk" carrier, BYO Wireless just refuses to allow them.  I believe that Ting is now offering 4G LTE service, as is Net10 and Straight Talk.
 
2014-06-20 12:38:15 PM  

Dinjiin: either Page Plus

or BYO Wireless

FTFM
 
2014-06-20 12:38:20 PM  

MightyPez: Do you honestly believe this hasn't been done by every carrier/ISP since now?


No, I don't think every carrier/ISP has been openly tracking which users connect to which sites and how much data they transfer from those sites up to this point.

I'm aware that the capability has been there all along, but I'm skeptical that they'd be spending the money for the infrastructure to support tracking and recording per-user data connections without, say, the NSA or FBI mandating it.
If they had been doing this secretly and the information had "leaked", would people really be okay with it?
The fact that they've announced it as "we're doing this for YOU so you can have all the Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus downloads off of other people's servers that you want!" doesn't change the implications. Instead of having to keep any monitoring they're doing to themselves, it'll now be an openly acknowledged "business model" and the information can be sold off to anyone. (tl;dr - this takes any monitoring from "restricted by practical and public-relations reality" to "eagerly encouraged because consumers and money".)

Your traffic is passing through their network and through their DNS servers. This can be as simple as adding certain subnets and domains to a white list that is omitted from the data cap pool.

They could do it that way, sure, if they wanted to lose a bunch of useful marketing analytics. On the other hand, if they track individual usage of the privileged partner services (so they can then subtract that usage from the bill), they can map out which buyers of which kinds of phones in which areas of the country are prone to listen to which services, and from that and the kinds of music each service offers infer all kinds of interesting things about each user, some of which might even be accurate. Ethical issues of spying on users' activities aside, if it were me there's no friggin' way I'd give up that kind of useful data. If they even track "non-privileged" connections, they could even use that as PR boost later. ("We've decided to add Jamendo to our privileged partners list, so as a thank-you to our customers, your usage of Jamendo for streaming this month will be retroactively removed from your data cap usage").

I'm still half-expecting a "all mp3 streams free!" or similar deal/service at some later time which would formally excuse deep-packet inspection (in order to know which data streams have the "exempt" kinds of media in them, of course) as well (this could also be promotional for, say, a special new Apple-exclusive media format rather than something widely-used like mp3 or legally-free like .ogg or .opus).

That's obviously just speculation on my part at the moment, but it's where I'd be heading if I was a business executive looking to cash in more on selling "analytics" and media-promotion to other businesses and government agencies.
 
2014-06-20 12:43:38 PM  
I cannot wait until Sprint and T-Mobile merge. Finally some real competition for At&t and Verizon...

www.droidforums.net
 
2014-06-20 12:44:18 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Dinjiin: finnished: Also, you might want to figure out whether the coverage you think you need is enough to warrant double the price tag of other carriers. In all honesty, I don't think a lot of people need that coverage.

And if you do need the coverage of Verizon or AT&T, you can always go with a MVO.

BYO Wireless and Page Plus Wireless are both Verizon resellers that allow you to bring your own phone.  Ting does the same for Sprint.  Net10 and Straight Talk handle both AT&T and Verizon phones (and they support AT&T's LTE bands).

One of us has really poor reception on T-Mobile, even though she (my down-and-out sister-in-law) lives just a few miles outside the Beltway. I am planning on switching her to Page Plus using one of our old Verizon phones.

Does anyone here have any direct experience with Page Plus or BYO Wireless?


H20Wireless also uses AT&T's network.  I switched over a couple months ago and haven't had any issues.  I have a dumbphone that I barely use, so ~$8.50 a month is pretty good.  My wife has an iPhone w/ 1GB of data for $36/month (10% discount off a $40/month bill for autorenewal)  They have higher plans as well.
 
2014-06-20 01:30:15 PM  
Moved from AT&T to T-Mobile. Service is just as good or better and way cheaper.
 
2014-06-20 01:50:14 PM  

Epicanis: No, I don't think every carrier/ISP has been openly tracking which users connect to which sites and how much data they transfer from those sites up to this point.


The you're openly naive. With all the stories over throttling, net neutrality, and the NSA over the last few years this has been explicitly stated by ISPs that it is what they are doing.
 
2014-06-20 02:13:46 PM  

MightyPez: Epicanis: No, I don't think every carrier/ISP has been openly tracking which users connect to which sites and how much data they transfer from those sites up to this point.

The you're openly naive. With all the stories over throttling, net neutrality, and the NSA over the last few years this has been explicitly stated by ISPs that it is what they are doing.


"They've been doing it a little quietly on the side, we might as well encourage them to do it more and harder."

The NSA can compel them to do some targeted spying [and pay for the equipment to do so], there are recent stories over Netflix paying off some carriers for "fast lane" status, and "throttling" has been seen as scandalous when it's done selectively (T-Mobile used to, and maybe still does, "throttle" all data non-selectively once the cap is reached, which to me is actually a pretty reasonable approach, but doesn't really have much to do with giving privileged partners "fast-lane" access while restricting others).

What I'm saying is that so far, people have been generally opposed to these things. Why is it suddenly a good thing now? The excuse that "they were kind of doing it quietly before" doesn't really explain why encouraging them to do it harder and more blatantly is something to be celebrated.
 
2014-06-20 07:44:10 PM  
I have been a Veri$on customer since Airtouch days. They have always treated me right, and I have grandfathered Unlimited data. But, I am open to switching, because I don't see it lasting. I have a "spare" landline I am getting ready to port, and I will probably do AT&T prepaid, out of simplicity (it is an AT&T landline). Looking at the Moto X, but maybe the Moto G LTE.
 
2014-06-20 07:46:20 PM  
I have T-Mobile in a fairly rural part of Georgia. About a month ago, T-Mo turned on the LTE in the area at my home. Just looked at my phone one day and there it be.

Overall, I have been much happier with T-Mobile than I was with Verizon. My provided work phone is an AT&T iPhone 5S. I really don't see what the big deal is about that phone.
 
2014-06-20 07:52:56 PM  

Unobtanium: I have been a Veri$on customer since Airtouch days. They have always treated me right, and I have grandfathered Unlimited data. But, I am open to switching, because I don't see it lasting. I have a "spare" landline I am getting ready to port, and I will probably do AT&T prepaid, out of simplicity (it is an AT&T landline). Looking at the Moto X, but maybe the Moto G LTE.


I gave up my grandfathered Verizon phone because LTE is $50 for 1gig, $70 for 5 gig, $80 for unlimited LTE on T-Mobile. No overage fees, just throttled if you went above. I think I was paying around $110 for Verizon and I suspect they were throttling users at their whim around the time I dropped to encourage them to other plans.
 
2014-06-21 06:38:40 AM  

JK8Fan: Unobtanium: I have been a Veri$on customer since Airtouch days. They have always treated me right, and I have grandfathered Unlimited data. But, I am open to switching, because I don't see it lasting. I have a "spare" landline I am getting ready to port, and I will probably do AT&T prepaid, out of simplicity (it is an AT&T landline). Looking at the Moto X, but maybe the Moto G LTE.

I gave up my grandfathered Verizon phone because LTE is $50 for 1gig, $70 for 5 gig, $80 for unlimited LTE on T-Mobile. No overage fees, just throttled if you went above. I think I was paying around $110 for Verizon and I suspect they were throttling users at their whim around the time I dropped to encourage them to other plans.


I suspected that at one point, too. Changed phones and that went away. I travel a bunch by car in fairly rural areas. In cities where Verizon has fired up their AWS spectrum, the speeds are incredible. Anyway, I will start experimenting with GSM carriers in a few weeks.
 
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